#raspberrypi IRC Log

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IRC Log for 2018-07-25

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[3:21] <piesquared> Does anyone know where the cheapest place to buy a RPi 3 b+ is?
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[3:26] <piesquared> And, what are the differences between the RPi 3 b and the 3 b+?
[3:26] <HeXiLeD> piesquared: ebay
[3:27] <piesquared> Thats not used?
[3:28] <piesquared> Or a refurbished one? :P
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[3:36] <erm3nda> b+ is about specs, usually more ram
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[3:37] <erm3nda> piesquared, b+ is about specs, usually more ram
[3:37] <erm3nda> but of course, you have plenty documents if you search in google
[3:37] <piesquared> Yeah, i dunno whats what...
[3:38] <piesquared> It says it has all this...
[3:38] <piesquared> But it doesnt say the difference.
[3:38] <erm3nda> i have rpi2 b+, which comes with 1gb ram instead of 512Mb
[3:38] <erm3nda> just google rpi3 vs rpi3 b+
[3:38] <erm3nda> sure you found what you want in the first link
[3:39] <piesquared> So if i wanted it for a PC, which would you personally reccomend?
[3:39] <Khaytsus> Not a Pi
[3:39] <piesquared> Lemme rephase that...
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[3:39] <piesquared> So if i wanted a RPi for a PC, which one would you personally reccomend?
[3:39] <Khaytsus> pi 3 b+
[3:40] <piesquared> And where would i buy it?
[3:40] <Khaytsus> Or even get an alternative one... like a bannna pi..
[3:40] <Khaytsus> piesquared: the internet?
[3:40] <piesquared> New.
[3:40] <piesquared> Haha very funny.
[3:40] <Khaytsus> I don't understand the question.
[3:41] <piesquared> What site would i get the 3 b+ on?
[3:41] <piesquared> on the internet
[3:41] <Khaytsus> https://google.com/search?q=raspberry+pi+3+b+
[3:41] <erm3nda> piesquared, pitop
[3:41] <erm3nda> rpi3 +b seems the more powerfull one
[3:41] <erm3nda> you have other little boards not rpi if you need much more power
[3:42] <Khaytsus> odroids, banana pi, etc, if you need more
[3:42] <erm3nda> ebay, amazon are good places to find it
[3:42] <erm3nda> Khaytsus, beagle, spark64
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[3:42] <Khaytsus> There are many, many SBCs to choose from yes
[3:42] <piesquared> Amazon is like $40...
[3:43] <erm3nda> i bough one orangePI, fried it in just 10 secs because wrong voltaje :-D
[3:43] <Khaytsus> piesquared: Yes, they cost $35. With shipping it'd be more.
[3:43] <piesquared> And ebay... i want it new...
[3:43] <Khaytsus> Ebay sells new stuff
[3:43] <erm3nda> it's better to buy full package, case, etc
[3:43] <Khaytsus> Stop being a damn vampire piesquared seriously
[3:43] <Khaytsus> You can google for yourself.
[3:43] <piesquared> Huh?
[3:43] <erm3nda> cheaper than buy alone and buy things lately
[3:43] <piesquared> I cant.
[3:43] * Khaytsus points to http://slash7.com/2006/12/22/vampires/
[3:43] <Khaytsus> Read that. And yes, you can google for yourself.
[3:43] * piesquared cant google,
[3:44] * piesquared has restrictions.
[3:44] <Khaytsus> is troll
[3:44] <Khaytsus> I'll save us all the noise and just ignore you
[3:44] <piesquared> Ill stop.
[3:44] <piesquared> I was just leaving anyway.
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[3:45] <erm3nda> <piesquared> I was just leaving anyway. --- omg what a reply ...
[3:46] <Khaytsus> no.. don't need any relays.
[3:46] <erm3nda> Ò.Ó
[3:46] <erm3nda> oh, understood, u ignored
[3:46] <Khaytsus> Yeah
[3:46] <erm3nda> anyway was not a message just for you
[3:47] <Khaytsus> I can't stand trolls and vampires.
[3:47] <erm3nda> srry :-)
[3:47] <Khaytsus> No problem
[3:47] <erm3nda> well, i cna't undrestand people liking to wait and fight here, instead of instant solutions by searching
[3:47] <erm3nda> really dumb
[3:47] <Khaytsus> He's been sucking the life out of everyone who passes by for days.
[3:47] <Khaytsus> anywho, done.. heh..
[3:48] <erm3nda> lets troll him.. then
[3:48] <erm3nda> whis is the best PI?
[3:48] <Khaytsus> no
[3:48] <erm3nda> pi one
[3:48] <erm3nda> ...
[3:48] <erm3nda> how to? here and there (all wrng)
[3:48] <erm3nda> :D
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[4:36] * piesquared has rhe it h.
[4:36] <piesquared> grr
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[4:37] * piesquared has the itch... to program.
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[5:17] <arahael> A scratch, do I hear?
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[5:28] <keanne> hi, just wanted to know if this is the latest rpi model with built-in wireless lan https://ph.rs-online.com/web/p/processor-microcontroller-development-kits/1373331/
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[5:29] <keanne> sorry if it's obvious but i'm just wanted to start with rpi and there's so many models available online and I don't want to make the mistake in purchasing one
[5:33] <arahael> keanne: It doesn't seem to mention it on that page. Might be an omission, possibly.
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[5:36] <keanne> arahael: yes, that's what confusing me
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[5:37] <keanne> arahael: but Raspberry Pi 3 Model B+ do have wireless built-in right?
[5:37] <arahael> keanne: I'll be buying this one, myself: https://raspberry.piaustralia.com.au/raspberry-pi-3-model-b-plus
[5:39] <arahael> keanne: You may want to check out the data sheet. (It does mention wireless)
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[5:39] <keanne> arahael: thanks
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[11:16] <cjdc> hi folks. Catching up on an issue from yesterday, I have an access point on a RPi3, using the default brcmfmac driver, and I've set an hostapd vendor_element. But when I scan the network, I see 2 Vendor Specific fields in that network...is this normal?
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[11:16] <cjdc> the second Vendor Specific is just an empty string
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[11:21] <chris_99> Just found the pi 3b+ has a Gbps ethernet module :)
[11:21] <chris_99> Although capped by usb bw
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[13:07] <stane1215> hello, any citadel-suite users here?
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[13:26] <gordonDrogon> chris_99, do keep up at the back there ;-)
[13:26] <chris_99> lol
[13:27] <chris_99> can we create a gov. petition for them to not use usb for it ;)
[13:27] <shiftplusone> what else would they use?
[13:27] <gordonDrogon> I'm sure you can... will anyone take notice? highly unlikely ...
[13:27] <gordonDrogon> still, 300mb/sec is better than 100...
[13:28] <chris_99> hehe
[13:28] <chris_99> true
[13:29] <chris_99> shiftplusone: an arm chip with an ethernet controller
[13:31] <shiftplusone> throw out a big chunk of the existing, tested software, a big chunk of the board layout, find a new chip supplier or try to get broadcom to make a custom chip and almost have to start from scratch?
[13:31] <shiftplusone> If it was easier than that, it would've been done already.
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[13:45] <chris_99> there may actually be a videocore with ethernet but i could be mistaken
[13:46] <Habbie> https://www.broadcom.com/products/embedded-and-networking-processors/communications/bcm11140
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[13:46] <Habbie> 3x gbit
[13:46] <Habbie> but mere existence is not enough, of course
[13:47] <chris_99> thats not a videocore chip?
[13:47] <chris_99> thoo
[13:47] <chris_99> or is it
[13:47] <Habbie> it has videocore
[13:47] <Habbie> i'm not sure what 'a videocore chip' means
[13:47] <chris_99> https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/VideoCore
[13:48] <chris_99> i was trying to find more info on VC5
[13:49] <shiftplusone> What does it cost? Is it better than the chip the next pi will have? Does it matter that it's a 1GHz A9?
[13:49] <shiftplusone> (Those are mostly rhetorical)
[13:54] <shiftplusone> To add to that, does it have all the pins currently exposed on the GPIO header? Could it be used on the CM without breaking existing devices which use it?
[13:54] <shiftplusone> I think Eben is in the best position to judge what's possible, since he knows all of this.
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[14:12] <arahael> I'm actually tempted to use an Rpi as my main desktop computer, but will see. :)
[14:12] <arahael> (One really doesn't need that much computing power in the home)
[14:13] <Habbie> in the home, i find one needs bursts of computing power
[14:13] <chris_99> heh as a main desktop, that's pretty hardcore
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[14:13] <erm3nda> arahael, i am using it as regular desktop for irc and web browsing
[14:14] <erm3nda> 24x7 powered, and also for some sort of automation
[14:14] <erm3nda> + share internet from wifi to eth
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[14:14] <cjdc> do you use any sort of home automation kits?
[14:15] <cjdc> for controlling camera feeds, lights, etc.
[14:15] <erm3nda> for that i do use ardus, i said automation because "programs automation"
[14:15] <erm3nda> but using gpios you can do anything you want like arduino
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[14:16] <erm3nda> cjdc, did u finally managed to add the vendor_elements ?
[14:17] <cjdc> hum, never tried arduinos...worth having a look
[14:17] <shiftplusone> browsing is probably the thing that would hold me back from using the pi as my main desktop
[14:17] <shiftplusone> i need youtube and a million tabs open
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[14:18] <cjdc> erm3nda: more or less. after all, my beacon and VSIE are being sent, but the problem is that there are 2 VSIE fields being sent in the same beacon
[14:18] <cjdc> so my scan was by chance giving me the wrong one
[14:18] <cjdc> which I don't know where it comes from...just an empty string
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[14:24] <erm3nda> can't you get both and just strip out the empty one?
[14:25] <arahael> Well, I do still have a macbookpro, but what's the fun with that? :)
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[14:25] <arahael> shiftplusone: It's astonishing how much CPU power you save when you disable javascript.
[14:26] <arahael> I don't use youtube, though.
[14:26] <erm3nda> yep, i do use dillo sometimes for mega fast rendering/browsing
[14:26] <erm3nda> but it lacks the clipboard thing, which is totally needed when searching for info :-/
[14:27] <arahael> Oh? hat surprises me.
[14:27] <arahael> *that.
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[14:28] <arahael> Still, regular browsers should be OK, I would think. The main problem is all the javascript.
[14:28] <shiftplusone> midori or aurora may be a happy medium... although if you're happy with dillo, maybe links/elinks/lynx/w3m/whatever_else_there_is may be good enough
[14:30] <shiftplusone> are there many sites that are still functional without js
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[14:31] <arahael> shiftplusone: I increasonly disable javascript on my phone.
[14:31] <arahael> Btw, elinks2 is a graphical browser, too.
[14:31] <arahael> *with* javascript.
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[14:37] <chris_99> wow i didn't know it support JS
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[14:43] <arahael> Worked on the framebuffer, too, if I recall.
[14:45] <chris_99> ooh
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[15:02] <cjdc> *clean
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[16:38] <genr8_> whats funny is when people refuse to run javascript and then you find out they cant use 90% of the web and for some reason aren't concerned. its an internet #fail as far as im concerned.
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[16:40] <genr8_> if most sites actually gave a shit and provided non-JS versions, that would make a lot more sense but its not 1999 anymore
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[16:53] <piesquared> Does anyone know if its possible witha infrared sensor, to find the coordinates of the hottest stop?
[16:53] <piesquared> *spot
[16:56] <baldengineer> perhaps with a lens and multiple sensors
[16:56] <baldengineer> or one mounted to some stepper motors
[16:56] <stiv> standard image processing stuff
[16:57] <piesquared> Its for a laser targeting system (aka cat entainment system...)
[16:57] <piesquared> Id have two servos on the laser emiters...
[16:58] <piesquared> So would that be hard to do?
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[17:07] <baldengineer> it'd probably be more effective to get something like the adafruit thermal sensor and use SimpleCV to detect hot spots
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[17:07] <chris_99> you'd need a thermal sensor for that surely?
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[17:09] <piesquared> I was going to use infrared...
[17:09] <piesquared> hmm
[17:09] <piesquared> ill look that up.
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[17:18] <chris_99> thermal imaging does use infrared but it's not near infrared
[17:19] <piesquared> Ah ok.
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[17:21] <piesquared> chris_99, arenthose expensive?
[17:21] <chris_99> you can get 8x8 ones for like 30 quid iirc
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[17:22] <piesquared> Quid...
[17:22] <chris_99> i think some are designed for taking absolute temp readings and some not
[17:22] <chris_99> https://shop.pimoroni.com/products/adafruit-amg8833-ir-thermal-camera-breakout
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[17:23] <piesquared> That pounds?
[17:24] <chris_99> yeah
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[17:25] <piesquared> 50 DOLLARS?
[17:25] <piesquared> NO WAY
[17:25] <stiv> board must be made of solid chinesium to be that heavy
[17:25] <piesquared> Heh.
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[17:26] <stiv> piesquared, are you looking for an infrared image, or just trying to find a red spot of light?
[17:26] <piesquared> I might stick with a infrered if those are THAT expensive.
[17:26] <piesquared> Look above.
[17:26] <piesquared> umm...
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[17:27] <piesquared> Itsnfor a laser targeting system that targets with heat...
[17:27] <piesquared> I need to know the coordinates to target with the servo motors.
[17:28] <piesquared> But only x and y
[17:28] <chris_99> i hope it's not a heat seeking missile ;)
[17:28] <piesquared> No, laser emiters.
[17:28] <piesquared> :D
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[17:35] <chris_99> has anyone cross-compiled this before per chance - https://github.com/jgarff/rpi_ws281x i'm trying to do it using dockcross, i'm just wondering i'm stuck on './src/rpi_ws281x/mailbox.c:275:25: error: 'S_IFCHR' undeclared (first use in this function)' which is in normally in /usr/include/sys/stat.h, there isn't a standard set of includes is there for the Pi? the issue basically i think is, the cross-compiler doesn't have
[17:35] <chris_99> that include file
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[17:36] <piesquared> Ive never compiled anything...
[17:36] <piesquared> I Suppose i should learn...
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[17:37] <shiftplusone> ...nope
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[17:42] <genr8_> interesting
[17:43] <genr8_> https://github.com/sert00/Raspberry-Pi-tools/blob/master/arm-bcm2708/arm-bcm2708-linux-gnueabi/arm-bcm2708-linux-gnueabi/sysroot/usr/include/bits/stat.h
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[17:45] <genr8_> #include <sys/types.h>#include <sys/stat.h>
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[17:46] <genr8_> You can get the relevant files for the right platform elsewhere and include them, providing the path with -I flag, should work
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[17:47] <genr8_> those set up the Syscalls for the kernel, but are provided by userspace
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[17:48] <chris_99> so i'm just wondering are they specific to the pi, or arm in general, as in my cross compiler should have that too ?
[17:48] <genr8_> yes they are specific you need the right include dir
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[17:49] <genr8_> it at least has to be the same version of the kernel
[17:50] <genr8_> you'll need the kernel header files
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[17:50] <genr8_> sudo apt-get install raspberrypi-kernel-headers
[17:50] <genr8_> After installing this package you will find the headers here: /lib/modules/
[17:51] <genr8_> try that and look in there for stat.h and copy it and include it on the cross compiler system
[17:52] <genr8_> this all relates to the fundamental linux glibC system
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[17:53] <genr8_> so "linux A" isnt equal to "linux B" in most cases, even if both were Pi's.
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[17:54] <chris_99> lets give that a shot cheers
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[18:06] <genr8_> APPARENTLY you have to create the toolchain yourself with: git clone https://github.com/raspberrypi/tools and and assign it a "sysroot" and then it compiles the cross-compiler for you and obtains the include paths
[18:06] <genr8_> https://github.com/raspberrypi/documentation/blob/master/linux/kernel/building.md#cross-compiling
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[18:07] <chris_99> Oh thanks
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[18:14] <genr8_> its still very confusing. theres also something called crosstool-ng that attempts to match up the proper toolchains to the source/target systems and set other options...
[18:14] <genr8_> If i had to guess, i'd say the toolchain you want is named: gcc-linaro-arm-linux-gnueabihf-raspbian-x64
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[18:15] <chris_99> I'm not quite sure now if stat.h is specifically for the pi now
[18:15] <chris_99> As in my compiler may have it
[18:21] <genr8_> I found this, manually specifying everything: make CC="/home/user/tools/arm-bcm2708/arm-rpi-4.9.3-linux-gnueabihf/bin/arm-linux-gnueabihf-g++ --sysroot=/home/user/rpi-jessie/ -I/home/user/rpi-jessie/usr/include/arm-linux-gnueabihf/ -L/home/user/rpi-jessie/usr/lib/arm-linux-gnueabihf/ -B/home/user/rpi-jessie/usr/lib/arm-linux-gnueabihf/"
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[18:22] <genr8_> I found this too, they give you the compiler and the sysroot: https://releases.linaro.org/components/toolchain/binaries/latest-5/arm-linux-gnueabihf/
[18:23] <genr8_> stat.h is in: sysroot-glibc-linaro-2.21-2017.10-arm-linux-gnueabihf.tar.xz\sysroot-glibc-linaro-2.21-2017.10-arm-linux-gnueabihf\usr\include\sys\stat.h
[18:23] <genr8_> GL! :)
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[21:14] <chris_99> genr8_: turns out i'm an idiot
[21:14] <chris_99> so the compiler does have sys/stat.h it was because i was using c99 it wasn't compiling
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[21:40] <chris_99> https://thepihut.com/products/mini-rtc-module-for-raspberry-pi anyone used one of those?
[21:40] <chris_99> or similar
[21:40] <chris_99> that uses a supercap apparently
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[21:47] <H4ndy> super cap over battery any day
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[21:48] <chris_99> yeah a cap makes sense for this i guess, as it'll charge up while the pi is on right
[21:49] <chris_99> i wonder how supercaps energy density compares to Li-ion etc.
[21:52] <chris_99> https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Supercapacitor wow
[21:52] <chris_99> it's a lot higher
[21:52] <chris_99> so er, why don't we see big-ass arrays of them
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[21:55] <mns> Anyone know which NetBSD I could run on a RPI ? I came across RaspBSD yesterday, but that is FreeBSD-11 based.
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[21:55] <chris_99> oh i misunderstood it has higher watt / gram
[21:55] <chris_99> but lower mWh / gram
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[21:57] <mfa298> I think the big issue with all caps is the voltage is proportional to the charge - so at half capactity the voltage gets too low to be useful in some cases - most batteries will still have a decent voltage
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[21:58] <Ilyas> [ +0.000025] print_req_error: I/O error, dev mmcblk0, sector 1716984
[21:58] <Ilyas> [ +0.000414] Aborting journal on device mmcblk0p2-8.
[21:58] <Ilyas> This is generally not a good thing to see in dmesg, right?
[21:58] <chris_99> https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/3/3b/Supercapacitors-vs-batteries-chart.png is a cool chart. Could you not fix that mfa298 with a SMPS?
[21:58] <Ilyas> also stuff like [ +0.000058] mmcblk0: error -5 transferring data, sector 1716912, nr 96, cmd response 0x900, card status 0x4000d00
[21:59] <chris_99> like boost it
[22:02] <mfa298> yes, but you'll also get resistive losses as you draw more power.
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[22:04] <mfa298> aiui lipo will go from something like 4.2v to 3.4v as it discharges, super cap would go from whatever it was charged to (e.g. 5v) down to 0v, at 50% your lipo might still give out 3.7v but the supercap might be down to 2.5v
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[22:37] <genr8_> Ilyas: bad sectors on SD card
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[22:40] <Ilyas> genr8_: is that repairable>?
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[22:41] <Khaytsus> Throw it away, get a new one
[22:42] <Ilyas> oh
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[23:15] <norwood67> morning
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[23:21] <Ilyas> hi
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