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IRC Log for 2018-07-28

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[0:09] <chris_99> Hi, does anyone know of some kind of i2c/spi based rgb led out of interest, if such a thing exists?
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[0:13] <chris_99> oh hmm - NCP5623B seems interesting
[0:13] <chris_99> which drives leds via i2c
[0:14] <Habbie> i thought you were the one that made me realise SPI was in fact feasible for 2812 leds
[0:15] <Habbie> but i have also seen actual SPI driven LEDs advertised, yes
[0:16] <chris_99> i have an issue heh
[0:16] <chris_99> i was using a library
[0:16] <chris_99> that uses PWM
[0:16] <chris_99> which does work
[0:16] <chris_99> however
[0:17] <chris_99> today 2 of my pis gave a weird sd card issue, which _may_ be due to DMA it uses, although the DMA ch10 is supposed not to cause issues, so i can't say for sure yet
[0:17] <chris_99> they where blinking so prettily too heh
[0:17] <Habbie> i have not heard of 2812 PWM causing SD issues before
[0:17] <chris_99> one sec
[0:18] <chris_99> "For example, using DMA channel 5 will cause filesystem corruption on the Raspberry Pi 3 Model B."
[0:18] <Habbie> oh fun
[0:18] <chris_99> i'm using the pi 3b + though on ch10
[0:18] <chris_99> so i dunno
[0:18] <chris_99> if something has changed
[0:18] <chris_99> from b to b+
[0:18] <chris_99> or not
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[0:27] <mfa298> chris_99: there's an i2c pwm board that adafruit does, something like pcf51<something> i think
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[0:27] <chris_99> cool i'll have a look
[0:28] <mfa298> or you could stick an atmega in the middle, it's certainly possible to have them act as an spi slave with a pi as master, or uart, and probably i2c
[0:29] <chris_99> mm i was looking for something ready made i guess , as i need a number
[0:30] <chris_99> i guess i could just use a normal rgb led and use the pwm interface maybe, although i think there's 2 pwm ports
[0:31] <mfa298> this is a chinese clone of the adafruit board i was thinking of https://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/272665271529
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[0:31] <chris_99> interesting
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[0:31] <mfa298> PCA9685 which gives you 16 pwm channels controlled via i2c
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[2:24] <ksft> I noticed that my Raspberry Pi had a lot of out of date packages
[2:24] <ksft> I ran apt-get update and apt-get upgrade, but they don't seem to have changed
[2:25] <ksft> `gcc --version` report 4.9.2
[2:25] <ksft> reports*
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[2:28] <ebarch> ksft: if you want to run a "full" upgrade, you'll need to "sudo apt-get dist-upgrade"
[2:29] <ebarch> apt-get upgrade will not change _what_ is installed. only the version numbers. dist-upgrade will add/remove packages to accomplish a full upgrade
[2:29] <ksft> are newer versions of gcc not the same package?
[2:29] <ebarch> it depends if other dependencies need to be added/removed
[2:30] <ksft> ah
[2:31] <ebarch> as a fun tidbit: "apt" seems to be the successor to "apt-get". the syntax is just slightly different, but shorter to type. "sudo apt full-upgrade" will do the same thing
[2:32] <ksft> as `apt-get dist-upgrade`?
[2:32] <ebarch> yup
[2:32] <ksft> is the syntax for installing packages the same?
[2:33] <ebarch> indeed
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[2:35] <ksft> one more question that I definitely should know the answer to: how do I get sshd to start automatically on boot?
[2:35] <ebarch> huh. it doesn't by default?
[2:35] <ksft> it doesn't seem to
[2:36] <pwillard> It should
[2:36] <ksft> unless it just isn't booting correctly
[2:36] <ebarch> assuming it's raspbian (or a systemd based system)...
[2:36] <ebarch> sudo systemctl enable ssh
[2:36] <ksft> any time there's a power outage, I can't ssh to it until I've unplugged it and plugged it back in
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[2:36] <ksft> it does seem more likely, actually, that it just isn't booting correctly
[2:37] <ebarch> That almost sounds like the BIOS isn't set to "power on upon power restoration"
[2:37] <ksft> how do I change that?
[2:37] <pwillard> That's just odd... so it must be a boot issue
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[2:37] <ebarch> But if it's a Pi, it doesn't have a BIOS :P
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[2:37] <ksft> (it is running Raspbian, by the way)
[2:38] <ksft> I've been using Gentoo on my laptop for a while now, though, so maybe I should switch the Pi to that too
[2:38] <ebarch> i have seen some weird behavior with brownouts where my Pis would get stuck in a zombie state
[2:38] <ebarch> you could try enabling the watchdog
[2:38] <ksft> does it happen consistently?
[2:38] <ksft> what's that?
[2:38] <ebarch> I don't have a ton of experience with that personally, though
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[2:38] <ebarch> it's a system built into the CPU/GPU that requires the OS to constantly "feed" it by sending it a signal regularly. if it fails to do that, the chip resets itself
[2:39] <ebarch> so it keeps systems from hanging (in theory)
[2:39] <ksft> how do I enable it?
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[2:40] <mfa298> whatdog won't stop a system from hanging. it just does a hard reset if it doesnt get the regular messages from the os to say it's running.
[2:40] <ebarch> right. but it could help in a power outage / brownout situation
[2:40] <ksft> I just ran `apt-get dist-upgrade`, and gcc is still 4.9.2
[2:40] <ebarch> ksft: i'd search around a bit on google. I don't have a good article off hand
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[2:41] <ebarch> that may be the newest version of gcc available for raspbian/debian then
[2:41] <ksft> isn't it like three years old?
[2:41] <mfa298> ksft: if you have gcc 4.9.2 that sounds like an old release of raspbian. easiest way to upgrade is probably to write a new image to an sd card
[2:41] <ksft> oh, that makes sense
[2:41] <ksft> I should do that, I guess
[2:42] <mfa298> 4.9.2 looks like jessie, which hasn't had updates for a year, we're now on stretch
[2:42] <ksft> ahh
[2:42] <ksft> yeah, I'm running Jessie
[2:43] <ebarch> ksft: if you're stubborn like me and want to upgrade in place: https://www.raspberrypi.org/blog/raspbian-stretch/
[2:44] <ksft> I don't happen to have physical access to it right this minute, so maybe I will
[2:44] <ebarch> hope you've got nothing mission critical running then :P
[2:45] <ksft> just my IRC bouncer
[2:45] <mfa298> you can do an inplace upgrade, but it's slow and some things might break (I did wheezy to jessie on a Pi1 once it it was around a day i think just to do the package updates)
[2:45] <ksft> it's okay, though -- if it fails, I'll ask for help on IRC
[2:45] <ksft> wow
[2:46] <ebarch> indeed. the pi1 was a bit sluggish
[2:46] <ksft> are the newer ones much faster?
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[2:47] <ksft> I think I have a Pi 1, but I'm not sure
[2:47] <ebarch> Pi 3B+ vs Pi 1 would be night/day
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[2:47] <ebarch> 3B+ isn't a desktop grade device by any means. But it's an order of magnitude "snappier"
[2:47] <mfa298> the new ones have more cpu and ram, but I suspect sd card was half the issue with speed which may not be much better
[2:48] <HrdwrBoB> you should treat a pi install as entirely disposable tbh
[2:48] <HrdwrBoB> ideally make it using a build script
[2:48] <HrdwrBoB> and deploy it, much like a cloud server
[2:48] * ebarch is a hardcore docker fan
[2:48] <ksft> is the 3B+ the newest one there is?
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[2:49] <ksft> yeah, I should be better about that
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[2:49] <ksft> I store a bunch of data on the SD card
[2:49] <ebarch> 3B+ is the newest
[2:50] <ksft> is there a way to check from a remote terminal which kind I have?
[2:53] <mfa298> cat /proc/device-tree/model
[2:53] <HrdwrBoB> https://www.element14.com/community/community/raspberry-pi/blog/2016/11/21/how-to-identify-which-model-of-the-raspberry-pi-you-have
[2:53] <ksft> oh, it's a "Model B Rev 2"
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[2:57] <mfa298> that's a pi1
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[2:58] <ksft> oh
[2:59] <ksft> it's different from the "Pi 2 Model B" listed on the website?
[3:00] <mfa298> yes, at that point there wasn't a model 2. the Rev 2 part is for the pcb revision (mounting holes and no usb poly fuses)
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[3:01] <ksft> oh
[3:01] <ksft> that's confusing
[3:02] <ksft> how would a build script for setting it up work?
[3:02] <ksft> like a bash script that formats the SD card and installs what I want on it?
[3:03] <mfa298> that's a way to do it. I use chef on most things but that doesn't work on the pi1 and is a bit heavy for a single device
[3:06] <mfa298> my other approach is having a set of notes, including commands to copy and paste to do a setup. More complex configs go in a git repo
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[3:07] <ksft> I think I've set up two Pis ever, so maybe this isn't worth it
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[3:08] <mfa298> text document can be, write it as you do the first one. Then you have it as a reference in the future
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[3:09] <ksft> yeah, that makes sense
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[3:30] <sameee> https://www.raspberrypi.org/blog/piserver/
[3:30] <sameee> might be of interest to you
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[3:40] <leftyfb> hm
[3:41] <leftyfb> "echo program_usb_boot_mode=1 | sudo tee -a /boot/config.txt" they say to write this to the config.txt and then power down and remove the sd card. I don't think that's how that works. I think they're missing the step about booting with the sd card once so that option gets triggered once. THEN remove the sd card and boot.
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[3:41] <sameee> yeah, that's addressed in the comments
[3:42] <sameee> anyway, it's kind of a nice way to handle a lot of raspis
[3:43] <leftyfb> comments != blog post instructions. It's been over 6 months, the post should be updated as it's incorrect and is an immediate full stop to getting anything working
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[3:53] <sameee> then write a blog post, if you'd like
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[4:18] <piesquared> Incoming piesquared!
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[4:24] <piesquared> Incoming piesquared!
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[4:25] <piesquared> Incoming piesquared!
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[4:30] <ball> I'm secretly wondering whether my Raspberry Pi 2B is a v7 or v8 ARM. I'll check next time I hook it up.
[4:33] <ShorTie> v8 is 64bit
[4:34] * ball nods
[4:34] <ball> I'd read that.
[4:35] <ball> ...though I'm not sure the BSDs support that yet.
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[4:35] <ball> (something to do with having to use 32-bit blobs?)
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[4:40] * ball ponders
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[4:55] <ball> ...perhaps APIs, not blobs. I don't know.
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[8:25] <arahael> Why do you care about 64-bit support anyway?
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[9:49] <Shadow_7> There seems to be an issue with jack_mixer in the current update. It croaks / freezes in about an hour of use.
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[9:50] <Shadow_7> Using a pulseaudio over jackdbus setup.
[9:52] <Shadow_7> It's croaked at least 5 times now trying to watch one episode of BSD Now on youtube.
[9:53] <Shadow_7> before the update it ran for weeks with no issues
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[10:01] <Shadow_7> could also be an issue with jackdbus or dbus. Seems like cron ran it's run-parts stuff near the last fail, trying without cron on next attempt
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[10:11] <Shadow_7> oddly I have to reboot to fix it. Not even unplug / replug or jack_control can reset it to a usable state.
[10:15] <Shadow_7> it's an external usb audio interface on a RPi 3B+
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[10:39] <Shadow_7> ugh, looks like avahi did that default IP thing. Always in the way. Hopefully up for a duration now, already severely behind in my yt subs
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[11:26] <Shadow_7> I was hopeful, but down for the count again.
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[11:30] <Shadow_7> less than an hour. Can't even watch killjoys at this rate
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[11:32] <Shadow_7> gvfsd kicked on, after pulse... grrrr... stupid fusectl
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[11:43] <Shadow_7> odd. jack_mixer is definitely the bad boy. unfortunately I need it to -34dB since the interface has no level control beyond knobs
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[12:10] <Shadow_7> I guess there's the calf-plugins for similar efforts
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[12:34] <Panoni> hey has anyone ever had trouble getting current versions of node to run on a pi zero?
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[12:35] <Panoni> it seems that the chipset or maybe my distro thinks that node 0.10.x is the most recent
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[12:41] <Habbie> Panoni_, probably the distro - means you'll have to get node from somewhere else
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[12:43] <Panoni_> yeah I've just tried so many sources. but the most recent one I'm trying seems to be working
[12:43] <Panoni_> hopefully
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[13:07] <chris_99> Habbie: sorry i just noticed you mentioned yesterday, you've seen true SPI leds, do you remember what they where?
[13:07] <Habbie> chris_99, i do not
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[13:19] <chris_99> not to worry, i'll do some googling
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[13:33] <brianx> many of the ws28xx devices have a clock and are compatible to spi. they don't have a ce pin though, so you'd have to use an and gate with ce and clock if your spi bus is shared.
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[13:40] <brianx> chris_99: ws2801 for example.
[13:41] <bipul> Have anyone here tested Raspberry pi GPIO pins?
[13:42] <brianx> yep bipul. i've tested them once or twice.
[13:42] <bipul> brianx, How?
[13:43] <brianx> i connect the device i want to use to compatible pins and run compatible software.
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[13:43] <bipul> brianx, I'm looking for any documentations or help where i can program for GPIO to runs drone kind of stuff.
[13:45] <brianx> i'm not sure what drones have to do with testing raspberry pi gpio, but go ahead. there are a number of projects out there that use a microcontroller to control a drone and a raspberry pi to control the microcontroller.
[13:45] <chris_99> brianx: thanks! i'd not heard of the ws2801, that actually has a clock input nice, i'll have to get some (i've only got ws2812bs atm, which just use a single data line)
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[13:46] <bipul> I guess we can control the motors with GPIO? right can we?
[13:47] <bipul> We can program in python with GPIO Module to control the Motors?
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[13:47] <brianx> chris_99: yeah, the 12 is too timing dependent to use with an os. you need a microcontroller to run those. the 01 works great just on 2 pin spi or even bitbanged spi.
[13:47] <chris_99> mm
[13:47] <chris_99> that's awesome
[13:47] <chris_99> thanks a lot
[13:47] <brianx> glad to help chris_99
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[13:48] <brianx> bipul: are you suggesting not using a microcontroller at all?
[13:49] <bipul> I'm not sure am i right here, but if i can control the LED light to switch on/off then i guess we can control the motors .
[13:50] <bipul> Just asking.
[13:50] <brianx> bipul: that depends on the control system for your motor.
[13:50] <bipul> I see..
[13:50] <bipul> Do you know any links for more understanding?
[13:51] <brianx> i do not.
[13:51] <bipul> Okay thank you, but your advice is valuable to me.
[13:53] <brianx> my understanding is that the most motor control interface is pwm and that some drones have more than 2 motors or servos involved so you would need some external hardware to get more pwm channels.
[13:53] <brianx> most *common
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[13:54] <brianx> you can spend a whole lot of money making a multi channel pwm board that works with a pi, or just spend $2 on a microcontroller.
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[13:58] <brianx> of course i think most people just omit the pi all together. but nothing stops you from adding one to your microcontroller and just making the drone much much bigger to handle the weight.
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[14:19] <mfa298> bipul: as a starting point maybe sketch out what you want to do in some detail on paper and maybe see what questions you have about each part, then google for them and find more questions to answer.
[14:20] <mfa298> for something like a drone I'd probably do something like brianx's first comment with having a microcontroller between the pi and critical part of flight stuff.
[14:21] <mfa298> you don't want the drone falling out the sky if something that makes the pi go slow for 0.1s
[14:22] <chris_99> brianx: you know with the ws2801, do you think if i powered them with 5V, i could still drive them with 3.3.V logic
[14:23] <brianx> pwm needs more lime .01s on every channel to be even close to steady and .001 for good stability. of course pwm is not the only motor controller protocol. an spi, i2c, or serial one would be closer to .1s as mfa298 says.
[14:24] <brianx> chris_99: i have read that that works, but have not tried it yet.
[14:24] <chris_99> cool, thanks
[14:25] <brianx> s/lime/like
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[14:35] <retrosenator> I left my zero W on overnight
[14:35] <retrosenator> and in the morning it was very hot
[14:35] <retrosenator> now it just heats up immediately when I apply power
[14:35] <retrosenator> and doesn't flash light
[14:35] <retrosenator> the sdcard is ok
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[14:36] <mlelstv> .oO( it's dead Jim )
[14:37] <retrosenator> why did it do that?
[14:37] <mlelstv> anything connected to it?
[14:38] <retrosenator> just i2c imu
[14:38] <retrosenator> did the 3v3 regulator overload ?
[14:39] <retrosenator> I tried a different raspberry and the same i2c sensors are fine
[14:40] <mlelstv> the i2c imu was powered by the rpi ?
[14:40] <retrosenator> yeah
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[14:40] <retrosenator> I just stuck it on a different rpi and it works
[14:41] <mlelstv> long wires to it?
[14:41] <retrosenator> now the burned out raspberry heats up with nothing plugged in
[14:41] <retrosenator> there aren't long wires
[14:41] <retrosenator> it plugs directly into the header
[14:41] <mlelstv> then probably difficult to find out.
[14:42] <mlelstv> but if it heats up immediately, it probably got something similar to a "latch up".
[14:42] <retrosenator> the led doesn't flash at all
[14:42] <mlelstv> yes, it's dead.
[14:42] <retrosenator> what caused it?
[14:43] <retrosenator> I want to avoid this
[14:43] <mlelstv> "difficult to find out". Usually by some voltage outside the allowed range, usually some negative voltage.
[14:44] <retrosenator> hmm
[14:44] <mlelstv> that's why I asked for long wires.
[14:44] <retrosenator> the voltage on the good pi from the same supply is 4.92
[14:45] <mlelstv> you would rarely see that with a simple voltmeter
[14:47] <brianx> most likely, your attached device and the pi were both trying to output on the same wire but at different voltages.
[14:48] <mlelstv> hmm
[14:49] <mlelstv> does the i2c imu have pullup resistors to 5V?
[14:49] <retrosenator> no
[14:49] <retrosenator> it's completely 3v3
[14:49] <mlelstv> it's powered by 5V
[14:49] <retrosenator> only connections were 3v3 scl sda gnd
[14:50] <retrosenator> the i2c device is powered from 3v3
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[14:54] <retrosenator> can it do that if the gpio get shorted?
[14:54] <retrosenator> I thought it could only kill that gpio
[14:55] <mlelstv> well, shorting probably only kills that pin. But feeding out-of-range voltages can kill the chip.
[14:56] <retrosenator> so it must have shorted 5v to a pin somehow
[14:56] <mlelstv> possible.
[14:57] <retrosenator> or the board is defective
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[14:57] <mlelstv> where did you get the 3.3v from?
[14:57] <retrosenator> the header
[14:58] <retrosenator> the solar controller with the usb power..
[14:58] <retrosenator> maybe it supplies the wrong voltage sometimes
[14:58] <mlelstv> solar controller?
[14:58] <retrosenator> it has usb plug on it
[14:58] <retrosenator> I use it to power pi
[14:58] <mlelstv> hmmm
[14:59] <retrosenator> but it's a 5v regulator built in
[14:59] <retrosenator> so I don't know unless it spikes higher at times somehwo
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[15:00] <mlelstv> shouldn't. But I don't know what device that is.
[15:01] <mlelstv> if it has a USB connector to charge e.g. smartphones, it should be safe.
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[15:02] <retrosenator> yeah it does
[15:02] <retrosenator> and it seems to be working fine powering a different pi
[15:02] <retrosenator> now with the same sd card, and i2c device
[15:02] <retrosenator> and it's working fine
[15:02] <retrosenator> so I can think it must have shorted
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[15:03] <retrosenator> like I kicked it in my sleep
[15:03] <mlelstv> yes, but that's difficult to find out.
[15:03] <mlelstv> without a time machine or similar :)
[15:03] <retrosenator> I guess I will make sureI cannot move it when sleeping
[15:04] <retrosenator> and see if this one burns out
[15:05] <retrosenator> maybe a tiny pice of solder
[15:05] <retrosenator> or clipped resistor lead from the floor
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[15:10] <brianx> or the wrong pin from whatever this i2c device is.
[15:11] <brianx> a 2.2ohm pullup instead of a 2.2k pullup?
[15:11] <bipul> mfa298, Yes correct.
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[15:25] <piesquared> Incoming piesquared!
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[15:36] <Shadow_7> uhg. calf 5 band eq same level freeze as jack_mixer... lasted a bit longer though
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[15:37] <Shadow_7> gonna have to adjust my update methods, aka stop doing them
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[15:54] <brianx> you can freeze the relevant packages to a specific version until the packages are fixed Shadow_7
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[16:02] <Shadow_7> gvfsd started up again too... and avahi
[16:04] <Shadow_7> it's the systemd jihad on my audio needs. Seems more like it's dbus or jackdbus doing the funky chicken
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[16:09] <Shadow_7> I don't know which package is at fault yet. Audio just quits. Jack_mixer or equiv freezes with it's gui level. qjackctl shows no jack or pulse entries. jack_control goes unresponsive. sometimes I can unplug /replug the usb device. most times I need to reboot
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[16:10] <Shadow_7> it was running fine for weeks. until the current update. probably been a month between updates (or more).
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[16:13] <piesquared> Incoming piesquared!
[16:14] <Shadow_7> odd... debs in /var/cache/apt/archives/ showing 2017 or earlier for timestamps for jack*
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[16:15] <Shadow_7> udev and pulseaudio are the only ones with "recent" timestamps
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[16:20] <Shadow_7> purged the old .config/pulse*, let's see if it plays nice now (doubt it)
[16:22] <Shadow_7> I had to root kill -9 jackdbus to avoid the reboot
[16:22] <Shadow_7> killed off avahi and thd this time
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[16:30] <Khaytsus> piesquared: thanks for the warning
[16:31] <piesquared> What warning?
[16:31] <Shadow_7> your entrace... aka the disturbance in the force
[16:31] <piesquared> 🙄
[16:31] <Shadow_7> s/entrace/entrance/
[16:32] <Shadow_7> < piesquared> Incoming piesquared!
[16:32] <Khaytsus> Incoming vampire
[16:32] <piesquared> That sent? Cool!
[16:32] <piesquared> Look, can you stop, thats rude.
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[16:41] <Tenacious-Techhu> I’m having trouble getting the middle mouse button to be recognized outside of desktop stuff, like in framebuffer apps run straight from the terminal, like netsurrf; how do I fix it?
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[16:48] <chris_99> brianx: checkout apa102 apparety they can be driven at 24mhz heh
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[16:49] <chris_99> Found from https://github.com/FastLED/FastLED/wiki/Chipset-reference
[16:49] <Sasasu> do BCM2837b0(3b+) and BCM2837(3b) have same gpio base address?
[16:49] <brianx> yeah chris_99, there are some fast options out there. you will need the right signal level at really high data rates like that.
[16:50] <chris_99> Should work at low rates too though I guess, will get some to play with
[16:51] <chris_99> That uses a clock too
[16:51] <brianx> yeah. i have run the ws2801 down at 100 baud.
[16:52] <chris_99> Cool
[16:53] <brianx> my clones were under volted a little and only lasted 6 months. i think the first led died after about a month. the last is still running at 2 years.
[16:54] <chris_99> https://www.anfractuosity.com/projects/painting-a-christmas-tree/ wot I used the ws2812 for. Will switch to those type I think
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[16:56] <brianx> the linked page is too badly formatted to view on a phone, but i get the idea.
[16:57] <chris_99> Heh
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[16:58] <piesquared> Incoming piesquared!
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[17:05] <gordonDrogon> Sasasu, yes.
[17:07] <Shadow_7> audio death again... less than an hour each time... *sigh*
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[17:10] <piesquared> Incoming piesquared!
[17:10] <chris_99> Why keep repeating that
[17:11] <piesquared> Sorry, its my login function.
[17:11] <Shadow_7> or you're projecting your inner godwin
[17:11] <d0rm0us3> login function.. or a 'on join' function?
[17:12] <piesquared> zOkaaay?
[17:12] <piesquared> I made it myself.
[17:13] <piesquared> bbr
[17:13] <piesquared> bbl
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[17:14] <d0rm0us3> Hivevelocity Venture Capitalist, LLC
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[18:49] <streuner> can anyone help me with error failed to stop secondary CPUs?
[18:49] <streuner> i've kernel panic
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[21:15] <piesquared> Ok, cheapie, getting on...
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[21:21] <Shadow_7> seems like it's jackdbus. I have to kill -9 it as root, the jack_control routes fail after it fails.
[21:22] <chris_99> any weird things in the log files for it?
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[21:27] <Shadow_7> it seems to trigger with a usb discon recon and avahi starting up (manually systemctl stop avahi-daemon before this). Takes about 20-60 minutes per interruption
[21:27] <chris_99> hmm not an issue with the usb device itself then?
[21:29] <Shadow_7> no issues before the last upgrade
[21:30] <chris_99> ah
[21:31] <Shadow_7> no my networked pulseaudio setup dies every 20 to 60 minutes
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[21:32] <Shadow_7> now*
[21:32] <chris_99> :(
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[21:37] <Shadow_7> Hmmm... july 5th kernel ... april 18th kernel ... wonder if the OLD one has this issue?
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[21:53] <Shadow_7> since it doesn't look like jackdbus has changed since 2017
[21:53] <Shadow_7> has *not* changed
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[21:57] <Shadow_7> already looking promising, didn't take several minutes for my dongle mini-keyboard to let me type
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[22:00] <chris_99> interesting, you could maybe see what changed with the kernel between those 2 versions
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[22:02] <Shadow_7> if it works, probably done with it for now. amazon package yesterday, too many toys
[22:02] <chris_99> heh cool
[22:03] <chris_99> whatcha get
[22:03] <Shadow_7> 4.14.34-v7+ old ... 4.15.52 or something new / broken one
[22:04] <Shadow_7> sm137 mic, c920 webcam, mini keyboard, mikrotik 750 hex
[22:04] <chris_99> sorry i meant re. the amazon package
[22:04] <chris_99> ah neat
[22:04] <chris_99> i've not the c920 i think
[22:04] <Shadow_7> old webcam is the c270, 720p cam
[22:04] <Shadow_7> good pic on that one for a $30 cam
[22:05] <Shadow_7> c920 is still in the box
[22:05] <chris_99> oh wait i've got the 720p one actually
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[22:05] <chris_99> i want to get the mikrotik 802.11ac router sometime
[22:06] <Shadow_7> sounds like one you need 2 of for best results
[22:09] <chris_99> why 2?
[22:13] <Shadow_7> ac to ac connection
[22:13] <Shadow_7> most of my wifi's are still N
[22:14] <chris_99> oh, my laptop has ac
[22:14] <chris_99> the pi3b+ is ac too
[22:14] <Shadow_7> I prefer to ethernet to a device the wifi bridges. Fewer quirks, less radio radiation, better positioning of the device / antennae
[22:15] <Shadow_7> like when a new lease happens, it's a delay, not a disconnect for the client machines
[22:15] <chris_99> i use ac and powerline ethernet at home to my router, the router is 802.11ac but i want to replace with a mikrotik
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[22:17] <Shadow_7> let's see if this one hour padcast ends without audio interruptions on the 4.14 kernel
[22:17] <Shadow_7> podcast*
[22:18] <Shadow_7> although padcast isn't far off, whiney little ..........
[22:20] <Shadow_7> if it works, beats trying the arch cures all ails route
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[22:45] <Shadow_7> so far so good. old kernel and 28 minutes in, breaking daily records.
[22:46] <chris_99> nice
[22:47] <Shadow_7> spoke too soon... 29 minutes and audio death
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[22:47] <chris_99> :(
[22:47] <Shadow_7> still works better for HID stuff on the older kernel
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[22:48] <Shadow_7> I had to push p 30x times before ONE would show up to login
[22:48] <chris_99> haha
[22:48] <Shadow_7> With the old kernel, first one showed
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[23:52] <dchelix> Hi, I just bought my first raspberry pi and immediately experienced a rainbow screen.. Albeit I bought a starter kit that came with NOOBS on an SD Card. I decided to reformat the SD Card, but now I see there is a small 40mb BOOT partition. NOOBS won't fit on that partition... and my pi wont boot if it's in the root of the SD card. What should I do?
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[23:55] <ShorTie> there is a option in SDFormatter to regain the whole card
[23:55] <ShorTie> or just write the raspbian image to it .. :/~
[23:57] <dchelix> Ok
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