#raspberrypi IRC Log


IRC Log for 2018-08-03

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[0:17] <arahael> i cant figure out how to play the minefield thing, but the performce seems quite decent.
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[0:56] <Error451> >performance of playing Minefield
[0:57] <Bitweasil> Psh. Mine plays Minesweeper just fine!
[0:58] <Error451> IDK ... how many CPU cycles does 1 click in MInesweeper take ??
[0:58] <Error451> I could prolly play minesweeper on my analogue watch
[0:58] <Error451> anyways
[0:58] <Error451> how is everybody
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[1:19] <frib> Hi. I used to run motion with a network cam on my raspberry pi a couple years ago but I've lost my config files since then and I can't get motion to run even on a fresh install of it (I assume because of software changes). It's an error about /dev/video0. Google says to add some module but I get a not permitted error. I don't even know if that's necessary for a network cam. Please help!
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[1:41] <arahael> frib: You'll want to give a *lot* more information. What's "motion"? What version? Where did you get it from? What's the error? What's the *actual output*?
[1:43] <frib> motion is a camera stream analyzer
[1:43] <frib> works with network / usb cams etc
[1:44] <frib> i actually got it to run the server I believe on the rpi but can't access it's web interface (nmap shows: 8081/tcp closed blackice-icecap) whereas i have no problem accessing when running on my local ubuntu
[1:45] <frib> i can access the pi's nginx server at :80 though
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[1:48] <frib> arahael, ok i figured it out, was a config option restricting to localhost access only
[1:48] <frib> thanks
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[1:49] * arahael could have assumed motion was a "camera stream analyser".
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[1:58] <friendofafriend> arahael: https://motion-project.github.io/
[1:59] <friendofafriend> It's in the repos, around for a long time. Kind of heavy if you just need to stream video, mjpg_streamer is better for that.
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[2:06] <Shadow_7_> ffserver isn't so bad
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[2:19] <friendofafriend> Shadow_7_: Jan 6, 2018 - Warning: ffserver has been removed on 2018-01-06
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[2:26] <Shadow_7_> Hmmm... why do all the good things go away? crtmpserver and friends
[2:26] <Shadow_7_> I just want to be lazy and look out the back window without getting up
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[2:43] <on3pk> Hey, shot in the dark type question. Is it possible to somehow use a VPN so that my Raspberry Pi appears to be using a different IP?
[2:43] <on3pk> basically, I want to run a few services using my Pi, but can't due to ISP issues
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[2:44] <Shadow_7_> There's digital ocean droplets and things
[2:45] <Shadow_7_> Your ISP gives you "a" IP
[2:45] <Shadow_7_> which can change depending on their setup
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[2:45] <on3pk> Right right. I guess I should mention that I have a lowendspirit vps. It comes with a few resources, but not very many.
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[2:46] <on3pk> I do have a number of IPv6s that come with that account...
[2:46] <Shadow_7_> ipv6 is evil. your mac is part of the address
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[2:49] <on3pk> Well, that wouldn't really be my problem, would it? If I virtualised a connection from my pi to the internet?
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[3:02] <friendofafriend> Sure you can do that, on3pk.
[3:02] <friendofafriend> How do you connect to your VPN?
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[3:04] <friendofafriend> Shadow_7_: I have a camera pointing out the window next to my head.
[3:04] <friendofafriend> I do not wish to turn my head and look out it.
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[3:07] <maksim_> hey guyz!
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[3:17] <on3pk> friendofafriend, got any suggestions to where I can look? Lots of tutorials on a home vpn, but not as many as a home server
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[3:20] <maksim__> what do u mean with vpn as homeserver?
[3:21] <on3pk> I mean, I guess I want to host a website on the Pi.
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[3:22] <on3pk> buuut, I can't just throw on apache and expect it to work.
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[3:22] <maksim__> well basically u can
[3:22] <maksim__> u have to to a little config
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[3:23] <maksim__> but it should work out off the box
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[3:24] <maksim__> things like setting the vpn port to 433 is not bad, and use portsharring to share the port with your httpd
[3:24] <on3pk> I guess I need to use something like pagekite
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[3:26] <on3pk> Like, the issue is I need to tunnel traffic from a remote vps (which has a whole 128mb of ram) to the RPi
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[3:27] <maksim__> i dont know pagekite looks like some vpn solution whats wrong with openvpn
[3:27] <maksim__> try ssh tunneling
[3:28] <maksim__> idk about the ram, if it will last...
[3:28] <maksim__> i think it should
[3:30] <maksim__> someone experience with china ov5647 cams
[3:32] <maksim__> its my first cam and when i try to capture for more than 5 sec raspivid crashes --- just returns bunch of garbage
[3:33] <maksim__> already thougth of power issue (saw the yellow flash - after that i used other psu, now no yellow flash)
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[3:46] <friendofafriend> on3pk: So, you have a VPS someplace and you're trying to get traffic to the Raspi?
[3:46] <on3pk> Yes
[3:47] <friendofafriend> Does your VPS have an ssh client?
[3:49] <friendofafriend> I think your solution is a reverse ssh tunnel.
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[3:50] <friendofafriend> So "ssh -g -R <webportonyourserver>:localhost:<webportonyourpi> <vpsuser>@<vpsip>"
[3:51] <friendofafriend> (The -g allows remote hosts to connect to the port you forwarded, not just localhost.)
[3:51] <friendofafriend> And they you connect to your server with http://<vpsip>:<webportonyourserver>
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[3:52] <arahael> friendofafriend: How would you specify that in the ssh config, out of interest? :)
[3:52] <friendofafriend> In the ssh config?
[3:53] <friendofafriend> I'm not sure if I understand, and it's probably not your fault.
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[3:55] <arahael> Yeah. I'm thinking `RemoteForward <webportonyourserver> localhost:<webportonyourpi>`
[3:55] <on3pk> and I would do the SSH on the raspberry pi?
[3:56] <friendofafriend> Yes, from the Raspberry Pi, with that command.
[3:56] <arahael> And possibly `ExitOnForwardFailure yes`
[3:56] <arahael> on3pk: Ignore my ramblings about the ssh config, the config is mainly useful if you do a *lot* of ssh.
[3:56] <friendofafriend> So, let's say your Raspi has a web server on port 80 and you'd like it on your VPS's port 8080.
[3:56] * arahael would argue it's useful if you only do a little ssh as well, but he digresses.
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[3:57] <friendofafriend> So, "ssh -g -R 8080:localhost:80 vpsuser@vpsip"
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[3:57] <friendofafriend> Now, if this is supposed to support a server, you'll want that ssh connection to always stay up.
[3:57] <friendofafriend> For that, I can't recommend the daemontools package enough.
[3:58] <arahael> friendofafriend: How would you do that with daemontools?
[3:58] <Odd0002> I'd like to use my pi as a server but it doesn't have enough RAM
[3:58] <friendofafriend> What do you want to use it for, Odd0002?
[3:58] <on3pk> $50. Yikes.
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[3:59] <friendofafriend> arahael: First, a "sudo apt-get install daemontools daemontools-run"
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[3:59] <friendofafriend> And then you'll have a directory called /etc/service/
[3:59] <Odd0002> actually a lot of servers
[4:00] <friendofafriend> You make a subdirectory, let's call it webtunnel.
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[4:00] <Odd0002> I'd like it to replace my current PC with 8GB of RAM running a bunch of servers
[4:00] <friendofafriend> Odd0002: What sort of servers?
[4:01] <friendofafriend> arahael: So, in that directory, /etc/service/webtunnel/ , you make a script called "run".
[4:01] <friendofafriend> arahael: Start it with #!/bin/bash
[4:01] <arahael> friendofafriend: Hmm, and what advantage does this give over, say, systemd?
[4:02] <friendofafriend> arahael: The next line is just exec ssh -g -R <webportonyourserver>:localhost:<webportonyourpi> <vpsuser>@<vpsip> 1>./tunnel.log 2>./tunnel.log
[4:02] <Odd0002> file server, simple web server, minecraft classic server, openVPN server, samba server, urbackup server, syncthing node, all while running kodi and playing back videos at 1080p
[4:02] <friendofafriend> arahael: Give that run file execute permissions and it'll start running immediately.
[4:02] <arahael> friendofafriend: Hmm, sounds slightly simpler, but systemd can generally do this for you.
[4:02] <friendofafriend> Odd0002: Sounds pretty light.
[4:03] <friendofafriend> Your server plays videos? Why, Odd0002?
[4:03] <Odd0002> because I don't have a dedicated video playing PC so I use that one
[4:04] <Odd0002> for my parents to watch polish TV shows without having to go to the site
[4:04] <friendofafriend> So keep using it for that, sounds like you need some machine to play media. Your Pi can handle the rest pretty well.
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[4:05] <on3pk> friendofafriend, if I have an abnormal ssh port on my vps, do I still use the -p?
[4:05] <friendofafriend> on3pk: Yes! :)
[4:06] <friendofafriend> arahael: Downing the service is just svc -d /etc/service/webtunnel, and bringing it up is -u
[4:06] <Odd0002> well I think I'll just keep my current PC doing what it's doing and I'll keep messing around with the pi
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[4:07] <friendofafriend> Odd0002: Maybe get another Pi? ;)
[4:07] <arahael> friendofafriend: I'd rather use the service command. :) Nice and consistent with everything else.
[4:07] <Odd0002> nah I just remembered this one is meant as a media player somewhere else but no one used it so I took it back home heh
[4:08] <maksim__> hey one quick question: if the is no yellow flash (notification) in raspbian can we say there is no power issue happening?
[4:09] <maksim__> like voltage/current to low
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[4:09] <friendofafriend> What is a "yellow flash", maksim__?
[4:09] <friendofafriend> I've never seen one.
[4:10] <maksim__> https://raspberrypi.stackexchange.com/questions/57963/what-does-the-lightning-bolt-mean
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[4:11] <friendofafriend> arahael: I started using daemontools before systemd was around. It's pretty light, DJB wrote it.
[4:12] <friendofafriend> maksim__: Neat, never seen that, always use minimal.
[4:12] <maksim__> i first noticed that today when using a cam i have problems to getting to work properly
[4:13] <friendofafriend> How many amps does your power supply provide, and what kind of Pi are you using?
[4:13] <maksim__> raspvid crashes and returns byte garbage
[4:13] <arahael> friendofafriend: Nice. :)
[4:13] <maksim__> modell 2b
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[4:13] <maksim__> and 2.5 amp
[4:14] <friendofafriend> Is the only thing being powered the Pi and camera?
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[4:16] <maksim__> No i got i wmouse transmitter plus an keyboard attached plus hdmi to a selfpowered screen
[4:16] <on3pk> friendofafriend, I think there is a problem. I can access my pi from the vps when I tunnel, but I can't access it from the outside internet
[4:17] <on3pk> (Maybe because SSH doesn't know to listen to the port?)
[4:18] <friendofafriend> on3pk: Can you edit /etc/ssh/sshd_config?
[4:18] <on3pk> Yes.
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[4:20] <friendofafriend> You should be able to add the line "GatewayPorts yes" to the sshd_config file and restart the service, on3pk.
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[4:21] <maksim__> friendofafriend, doesn't the flash should appear if there is to low current?
[4:21] <friendofafriend> You may also have to add a colon before the web port on your server in the command, so "ssh -g -R :<webportonyourserver>:localhost:<webportonyourpi> -p <yoursshserversport> <vpsuser>@<vpsip>"
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[4:24] <on3pk> Neither of those worked
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[4:26] <friendofafriend> Run netstat -na and see if your system is only listening for traffic on localhost, on3pk.
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[4:28] <maksim_> sry laptop went down
[4:28] <on3pk> Ipv6 is listening global. Ipv4 is only listening to localhost
[4:28] <on3pk> very weird
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[4:31] <friendofafriend> Give "ssh -g -R \*:<webportonyourserver>:localhost:<webportonyourpi> -p <yoursshserversport> <vpsuser>@<vpsip>" a try, on3pk.
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[4:32] <friendofafriend> Sorry, or "ssh -g -R<webportonyourserver>:localhost:<webportonyourpi> -p <yoursshserversport> <vpsuser>@<vpsip>"
[4:33] <friendofafriend> (Which is only for IPv4, really that \* should do the trick.)
[4:33] <on3pk> ipv6 still listens, but not ipv4
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[4:34] <on3pk> oddly, ipv6 still listens when I'm doing the
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[4:35] <friendofafriend> With that, can you now access the port your forwarded remotely?
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[4:35] <friendofafriend> you forwarded**
[4:36] <on3pk> no, I can still access the pi's server doing wget localhost:myport but I can't access the tunnel from the public internet
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[4:38] <friendofafriend> When you do a netstat -na, do you see your system listening on localhost:<webportonyourserver> or a wildcard?
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[4:39] <on3pk> tcp 0 0
[4:39] <on3pk> tcp6 0 0 ::1:14402
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[4:42] <OO-Dragon> test
[4:42] <friendofafriend> pong
[4:42] <OO-Dragon> marko :)
[4:42] <friendofafriend> polio
[4:42] <OO-Dragon> haha
[4:42] <OO-Dragon> just testing different IRC chat program. seems ok...
[4:43] <friendofafriend> OK, on3pk, on this VPS server you have a real-world address on one of the interfaces?
[4:43] <OO-Dragon> I realized xchat has not been updated in like 8 years
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[4:44] <friendofafriend> Poor xchat. Do you like irssi, OO-Dragon?
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[4:45] <maksim_> try to update the firmware wish luck xS
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[4:46] <on3pk> inet addr:
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[4:47] <on3pk> Obviously that's the vps's local address. I tried to bind with that but unable to
[4:47] <OO-Dragon> friendofafriend: Have not used. That's the CLI one though right?
[4:48] <friendofafriend> Sure is, OO-Dragon. Very friendly.
[4:48] <friendofafriend> on3pk: So, this VPS doesn't actually have a real-world IP address?
[4:48] <OO-Dragon> friendofafriend: hehe, yeah I'll probably pass on that one, unless I'm on my Pi ^_^ Is that the one you use?
[4:49] <friendofafriend> OO-Dragon: irssi is quite friendly, great to use over ssh. And it gets updates. :P
[4:50] <friendofafriend> So you tried to replace the with and it still doesn't bind to that address, on3pk?
[4:50] <OO-Dragon> friendofafriend: I'm trying out pidgin. Used it before, for other chat protocols, seems OK with IRC so far. Guess I could setup a Pi as a IRC SSH box :P
[4:50] <on3pk> Correct. It *always* binds to
[4:50] <OO-Dragon> what are you binding on3pk?
[4:51] <on3pk> Tryin' to do an ssh tunnel
[4:51] <friendofafriend> OO-Dragon: on3pk is doing a reverse tunnel with ssh! It's pretty neat.
[4:51] <on3pk> friendofafriend, it's also always binding both ipv6 and ipv4 localhosts regardless of what I specify
[4:52] <friendofafriend> on3pk: It's strange your sshd still refuses to bind to anything but localhost. Did "GatewayPorts yes" end up in sshd_config or ssh_config?
[4:53] <OO-Dragon> your editing /etc/ssh/sshd_config ?
[4:55] <maksim_> ok now luck ... you guys werent wishing right?!
[4:55] <on3pk> uhhhhhhhhhhhh, maybe it ended up in ssh_config
[4:55] <friendofafriend> maksim_: I used a wish up on my monkey paw.
[4:56] <friendofafriend> on3pk: It's easy to get those mixed up. :)
[4:56] <maksim_> well get two for the nextime
[4:57] <friendofafriend> on3pk: I just gave it a shot here in the lab, and it seems to work with GatewayPorts yes in /etc/ssh/sshd_config and a /etc/init.d/ssh restart afterward.
[4:57] <on3pk> Yeah, uh, I may have been editing the wrong file
[4:57] <on3pk> 'cause it seems to be working now
[4:58] <friendofafriend> Neat-o, on3pk.
[4:58] <on3pk> Thanks for your help!
[4:58] <friendofafriend> So, it can be tough to get an ssh tunnel to persist.
[4:58] <friendofafriend> You're super welcome, on3pk. ssh is fun.
[4:58] <OO-Dragon> great! Glad it worked
[4:58] <on3pk> You mentioned daemontools?
[4:58] <friendofafriend> I highly recommend daemontools, because it's incredibly simple.
[4:59] <friendofafriend> Have you generated ssh keys, on3pk?
[5:00] <arahael> friendofafriend: You could consider naively and stupidly simply just creating a tunnel repeatedly. Whilst the ports have already been bound, you won't succed. If the tunnel drops out, however, it will succeed. Net result: You have a tunnel.
[5:00] <on3pk> no, I'm logging in with my username and password
[5:00] <maksim_> friendofafriend, do you have a idea how to investigate further?
[5:01] <friendofafriend> on3pk: You'll have to automate that, so run "ssh-keygen", leave the passphrase empty.
[5:01] <on3pk> on the pi or the vps?
[5:01] <friendofafriend> on3pk: After, use the copy-ssh-id -p <yourvpsport> vpsuser@vpsaddress.
[5:01] <friendofafriend> This is on the Pi.
[5:02] <friendofafriend> maksim_: Do you have the problem if you remove your USB keyboard and mouse dongle, and log in over the network?
[5:02] <maksim_> yep
[5:03] <maksim_> no idk
[5:03] <maksim_> but why shouldnt i
[5:03] <friendofafriend> maksim_: Remind me, you're using a camera on your raspi's camera port and your Pi says it's going overvoltage?
[5:04] <maksim_> no it was
[5:04] <on3pk> odd question, does changing the ssh port actually do anything useful? I thought it would make things more secure than just a ufw. But does it?
[5:04] <maksim_> undervoltage*
[5:04] <friendofafriend> on3pk: Not really, but you'll get less automated attempts. Lots of people make the port "2222" or "22222".
[5:04] <Khaytsus> Changing the port mostly just quietens the noise
[5:05] <maksim_> i changed the psu and now the pi seems happy in case of the power
[5:05] <Khaytsus> If you have exploitable passwords you have bigger issues ;)
[5:05] <Khaytsus> maksim_: Every time I tried a phone charger or some other cheap thing Pi's were not stable. the recommdned $7 charger fixed all of that in all cases for me.
[5:05] <friendofafriend> Khaytsus: Right, use keys all day.
[5:06] <Khaytsus> Keys are good, but good passwords are fine too. they aren't going to exploit a good password.
[5:06] <friendofafriend> May I recommend "shadowfax", Khaytsus? I've been using that for years and remain unhacked.
[5:06] <on3pk> ok, keys are copied
[5:06] <maksim_> Khaytsus, i use one that seems quite stable so far. 2b isnt that hungry either isnt it?
[5:06] <Khaytsus> Weird, same password I use
[5:06] <Khaytsus> maksim_: they all need quailty power.
[5:07] <Khaytsus> Old ass 1b to new 3b
[5:07] <Khaytsus> zeros.
[5:07] <Khaytsus> all
[5:07] <on3pk> So, you said to create a folder (e.g., webtunnel) and add run.sh file to it?
[5:07] <Khaytsus> It's not about the power the phone charger generates. It's the quality of power.. how much ripple, etc
[5:07] <friendofafriend> How did that keygen go, on3pk?
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[5:08] <on3pk> well I'm not going to post the random art, but I think it went ok
[5:08] <maksim_> To bad i havent won any giveaway from electroBOOM
[5:08] <on3pk> I can log in with my user but not password
[5:09] <maksim_> An osci would help to identify if my psu is good or bad quality right?))
[5:09] <friendofafriend> Perfect, on3pk!
[5:09] <OO-Dragon> maksim_: if you are having issues with power, check the back of whatever charger to look for "Output" and make sure it has 5v --- 1.5A at least. If its a 1A OR 1000mA OR even less like 500mA, you might have issues.
[5:10] <maksim_> yes im aware of that
[5:10] <OO-Dragon> the chargers have that and still issues?
[5:10] <maksim_> 2.5A 5V i use
[5:10] <friendofafriend> So, a little "sudo apt-get install daemontools daemontools-run" will install daemontools for you, on3pk.
[5:10] <on3pk> Did that
[5:11] <friendofafriend> And then a little ol' mkdir /etc/service/webtunnel
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[5:11] <friendofafriend> The file you want to put in that directory is just called "run" (with no extension), even though it is very much a script.
[5:11] <OO-Dragon> maksim_: So your having issues with 2.5A ones eh? hmm
[5:11] <on3pk> it did give a permission denied. Do I need to use sudo or add a group somewhere?
[5:12] <friendofafriend> /etc/service is owned by root, you'll have to use sudo.
[5:12] <friendofafriend> So in this /etc/service/webtunnel/run script, you'll have #!/bin/bash as the top line.
[5:14] <on3pk> right
[5:15] <friendofafriend> Next, you'll have exec su - pi -c "ssh -g -R \*:<webportonyourserver>:localhost:<webportonyourpi> -p <yoursshserversport> <vpsuser>@<vpsip>" 1>/var/log/webtunnel.log 2>/var/log/webtunnel.log
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[5:15] <maksim_> OO-Dragon: yes, and i was so happy when the cam arrived
[5:17] <friendofafriend> on3pk: Which is using su to become the user "pi", assuming that's what the user on your Pi is.
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[5:17] <friendofafriend> on3pk: You're also getting a friendly log over in /var/log/webtunnel.log , which is nice.
[5:18] <on3pk> how do I kick this off?
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[5:20] <friendofafriend> Is the script executable, on3pk, like sudo chmod 755 /etc/service/webtunnel/run
[5:21] <friendofafriend> ?**
[5:21] <on3pk> yeah
[5:21] <friendofafriend> OK, it should have automatically started. You can check for /var/log/webtunnel.log
[5:21] <on3pk> But I mean, do I need to do anything to start the daemontools?
[5:21] <friendofafriend> Nope, that's what the daemontools-run package did.
[5:22] <friendofafriend> If you want the service to start or stop, you just use svc -d /etc/service/webtunnel
[5:22] <friendofafriend> And to bring it up again, replace the -d with -u.
[5:22] <on3pk> oh cool
[5:22] <friendofafriend> "Down" and "up", pretty straight up.
[5:23] <friendofafriend> So now, your tunnel should be running. If ssh exits for any reason, daemontools will execute it again immediately.
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[5:25] <maksim_> ok idk what i did but it works nowxD
[5:26] <friendofafriend> maksim_: That's awesome! The best kind of working! :P
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[5:27] <maksim_> friendofafriend, i think your ape palm has quite some latency in its magic
[5:29] <friendofafriend> The finger is just now closing, actually.
[5:30] <maksim_> only thing to criticize are some kind of waves in the image, but i think they are not curable
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[5:31] <maksim_> ah see i knew it))
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[5:34] <friendofafriend> MaekSo: Are you running the camera at 30 fps, maksim_?
[5:34] <on3pk> ok, it seems to be working. cool!
[5:34] <on3pk> thanks for your help
[5:35] <friendofafriend> on3pk: You're very welcome. Enjoy your Pi.
[5:35] <on3pk> thanks!
[5:35] <friendofafriend> No problems. :P
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[5:37] <friendofafriend> So, we use 60hz for our mains current here in the states, maksim_.
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[5:37] <friendofafriend> This means 30fps looks fine. If you're in some country that uses 50hz power mains, you should see those "waves" go away if you set the fps to 25.
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[5:39] <friendofafriend> You may also have interference from nearby devices, so try moving your Pi away from possible interference, using a shorter or higher quality USB micro cable, or a different power supply as a last resort.
[5:39] <friendofafriend> Also, an enchanted monkey paw that grants wishes might help.
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[5:51] <on3pk> hm. the VPS keeps crashing.
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[5:57] <friendofafriend> on3pk: That's odd.
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[5:57] <on3pk> yeah. I wonder if they have some weird network policy in place to automatically shutdown instances they don't like
[5:57] <friendofafriend> You didn't accidentally put an "&" at the end of that script, did you? :)
[5:57] <on3pk> I sent them a ticket and asked whats up
[5:58] <friendofafriend> Does anything show in the logfile that script is making?
[5:58] <friendofafriend> How about the process list?
[5:58] <friendofafriend> Oh, the VPS, sorry.
[5:58] <on3pk> nothing in the pi's log file
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[5:58] <on3pk> i'm not going to turn on the vps again until I hear from them.
[5:59] <on3pk> or a few hours. Which ever comes first
[5:59] <on3pk> it's also midnight here, so I don't really have any incentive to stay up any longer, ha
[6:00] <friendofafriend> Welcome to EDT.
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[6:03] <on3pk> thanks again for your help
[6:03] <on3pk> later
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[6:40] <swift110> hry
[6:40] <swift110> hey
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[6:43] <Odd0002> hi
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[6:54] <friendofafriend> Hello.
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[7:12] <swift110> how r u Odd0002
[7:13] <swift110> hey friendofafriend
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[7:29] <friendofafriend> Doing very good, learning all about HDMI output today! :)
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[9:10] <arahael> I just used a DVI->HDMI cable. :)
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[9:11] <arahael> Though, I like my monitor set vertically, but I'm thinking of putting it back to horizontal, as the vertical layout looks a bit weird. :(
[9:11] <arahael> Awkwardly, teh screen casing seems designed for rotation, but the pixels do not appreciate it.
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[12:47] <chris_99> Just found out about these linux tools - https://github.com/iovisor/bcc they're incredibly handy
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[12:47] <chris_99> the tcptop one is really nifty
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[13:46] <chris_99> haha
[13:48] <TakWah> how to fsck a mounted volume?
[13:48] <TakWah> https://pastebin.com/WdjCtx9r
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[13:49] <chris_99> pretty sure you're not supposed to
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[13:51] <ArahaelPi> TakWah: Best thing to do there is use another system - ie, your recovery system - to fsck it.
[13:51] <TakWah> thanks, I am totally fine with that, because I properly shutdown the system, twice now and rebooted, but the mesg doesn't go away, and I do not know what I am doing wrong.
[13:52] <TakWah> ArahaelPi: Yes, because I "have" such a thing ;). That's end of line then, without another system?
[13:53] <BurtyB> TakWah, you did notice it says mmcblk0p1 (normally /boot which you can unmount) and you're trying to fsck mmcblk0p2 (/) ?
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[13:54] <ArahaelPi> TakWah: I didn't pay that close attention to it, but yes. If your main volume is messed up, you need to fsck it with another system. Otherwise, just umount it, and fsck it.
[13:54] <TakWah> BurtyB: While your right and I didn't know it was boot, it also says "fsck: error 2 while executing fsck.vfat for /dev/mmcblk0p1"
[13:55] <TakWah> k, I try to unmount it, do I have to remount it again or does rebooting fix that for me?
[13:56] <BurtyB> TakWah, rebooting will fix it or you can just run "mount -a" which will mount it
[13:57] <TakWah> thank you
[14:00] <TakWah> https://pastebin.com/PaPKYjip stays the same though after 'umount /boot'
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[14:09] <TakWah> oh fsck.vfat is a module right?
[14:09] <TakWah> I thought it was the fattable on the device.
[14:10] <ArahaelPi> TakWah: Sort of.
[14:10] <ArahaelPi> TakWah: fsck will run fsck.foo if it sees a foo.
[14:10] <ArahaelPi> (Basically)
[14:11] <TakWah> that explains why it won't work, thanks
[14:11] <ArahaelPi> TakWah: You can tell it the filesystem explicitly.
[14:12] <TakWah> I see I can tab through fsck. but nontheless it's vfat and I need to install it. I'll do that later.
[14:13] <arahael> Heh, interesting: xrdp is slow on RPi. :)
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[14:19] <chris_99> that's an rdp server rather than client?
[14:20] <arahael> Indeed.
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[14:20] <chris_99> if you want to access the pi graphically , maybe try https://wiki.x2go.org/doku.php too, i use that for graphical stuff and it works pretty well, it applies lossy compression to images etc. and compresses the x protocol
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[14:22] <arahael> Nice, yeah, I've been meaning to try that. Usually I just ssh and tmux, though. :)
[14:22] <chris_99> yeah same here heh
[14:23] <arahael> But nah, wanted to try vnc and xrdp because I wanted to see what remotix was like with this setup.
[14:23] <chris_99> im not a fan of vnc really because of how it works
[14:25] <arahael> vnc is a bit sucky, yes.
[14:25] <arahael> There's also xpra, that's on my list too, but neither xpra nor x2go work with remotix.
[14:25] <chris_99> remotix?
[14:25] <arahael> Commercial vnc and rdp client.
[14:26] <chris_99> aha
[14:26] <arahael> Seriously freaking good at that, unless you're using a linux client, which remotix doesn't do.
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[14:26] <chris_99> heh
[14:26] <chris_99> is that mainly for windows/osx then?
[14:27] <arahael> Yep, and apparently android and probably ios, too.
[14:27] <arahael> I run macos at work.
[14:27] <chris_99> gotcha
[14:27] <chris_99> been a while since i've played with macos
[14:27] <oodsway> Looking for help with these errors (lines 16-26) in apt: https://pastebin.com/SAXkk43i
[14:28] <chris_99> i made a hackintosh a long time ago
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[14:29] <chris_99> weird oodsway
[14:29] <oodsway> chris_99: yes, it is
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[14:31] <chris_99> it's not something like a package for the wrong arm instruction set?
[14:31] <chris_99> what pi is this
[14:32] <oodsway> chris_99: Rpi3 fresh install of stretch-lite
[14:32] <arahael> And curiously, that's python. You don't exactly compile python for a specific cpu.
[14:32] <chris_99> oh odd, sec, i'll try and install it too
[14:32] <arahael> Not even "python", that's apt listchanges.
[14:32] <oodsway> chris_99: it happens on updates to. nothing to do with iftop
[14:33] <chris_99> oh
[14:33] <oodsway> chris_99: updates *too*
[14:33] <chris_99> yeah iftop installed fine for me
[14:33] <chris_99> hmm
[14:33] <oodsway> chris_99: nothing to do with iftop happens on update
[14:33] <chris_99> oh sorry yeah i see now
[14:34] <oodsway> chris_99: just picked this example
[14:34] <chris_99> did it never work?
[14:35] <oodsway> chris_99: it's done this since install 2 days ago
[14:36] <chris_99> what image are you using?
[14:36] <chris_99> https://www.raspberrypi.org/downloads/raspbian/ did you get it from thar?
[14:36] <oodsway> chris_99: yup && verified
[14:36] <chris_99> muchos odd
[14:37] <oodsway> chris_99: agree, not sure what to do
[14:38] <chris_99> you didn't change any repos etc.?
[14:38] <oodsway> chris_99: no
[14:39] <chris_99> you're using Release date: 2018-06-27 i guess?
[14:39] <oodsway> chris_99: correct
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[14:40] <chris_99> shiftplusone: you see this message before ^ ?
[14:41] <oodsway> chris_99: i can find all modules listed for 1st error with locate
[14:43] <chris_99> "XXX lineno: 65, opcode: 90" what's XXX?
[14:44] <chris_99> oh /usr/lib/python3.5/shutil.py ?
[14:44] <arahael> chris_99: It probably can't determine the linenumber.
[14:44] <chris_99> later down it mentions that file and line 65 i think?
[14:46] <chris_99> what does 'python --version' say out of interest
[14:46] <oodsway> chris_99:/usr/lib/python3.5/shutil.py exists
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[14:46] <chris_99> mm i've got the same file
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[14:47] <chris_99> my one says 'Python 2.7.13' for python --version
[14:47] <oodsway> chris_99: Python 2.7.13
[14:49] <chris_99> ive no idea what i'm talking about but that is presumably a python opcode? https://svn.python.org/projects/python/trunk/Lib/opcode.py just found that, i was wondering if the bytecode for some stuff is the wrong version. i'm just guessing though
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[14:53] <waveform> oodsway, that looks like a very broken installation of Python 3.x. Usually those sort of opcode errors occur when (for example) a py2.x interpreter tries to use a py3.x compiled .pyc file (or vice versa)
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[14:54] <chris_99> could you just remove the compiled bytecode i wonder heh?
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[14:54] <waveform> quite possibly, but in this case it's apt-listchanges trying to import tempfile; that's a system module and if it's getting the wrong opcodes that likely indicates something *very* wrong with the python install itself
[14:54] <chris_99> gotcha
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[15:03] <arahael> chris_99: No real point.
[15:03] <arahael> chris_99: If the bytecode doesn't match the system, python will ignore it.
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[15:04] <arahael> But in either case, there is somethign indeed wrong with that setup.
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[15:08] <oodsway> chris_99: not sure why I keep getting disconnected, sorry if you replied
[15:09] <chris_99> it seems it's a python issue
[15:10] <chris_99> http://srv.datagutt1.com/index.php?date=2018-08-03 logs
[15:11] <oodsway> chris_99: reading....
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[15:12] <chris_99> arahael: yeah i was just playing you're right, it uses a magic number, wonder what's happening here then
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[15:14] <oodsway> I've caught up with waveform on broken python3.x, etc. Any action to do?
[15:15] <waveform> oodsway, can you try starting up python3 at the command line, and just type "import tempfile" ?
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[15:15] <oodsway> waveform: standby
[15:15] <waveform> if that fails as well, there's definitely something up with the installation
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[15:17] <oodsway> I'm working ssh on headlessn pi, don't have easy way to pastebin
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[15:17] <oodsway> but same errors as line 44 and 65
[15:17] <waveform> okay - definitely something broken about the python3 installation then
[15:17] <oodsway> and ends with SystemError: unknown opcode
[15:18] <waveform> so, next thing: have you done anything like installing third-party versions of Python?
[15:18] <oodsway> remove and re-install?
[15:18] <waveform> well ... python's part of the base system so it's not quite that simple
[15:18] <oodsway> figures
[15:18] <oodsway> nuke and repave
[15:19] <waveform> you can try something like "sudo apt-get install --reinstall python3"
[15:19] <oodsway> standby
[15:19] <waveform> however it might fail anyway because the prerm scripts might assume a working python3 install
[15:20] <waveform> in which case, yes I'd advise the simplest method is re-image the SD card (if you can copy whatever you want off there first)
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[15:21] <oodsway> give me a few mins to create a pastbin. It failed but may help to see
[15:23] <oodsway> https://pastebin.com/Yq1h7wsa
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[15:28] <oodsway> disconnected so quit and restart.
[15:29] <waveform> ah, well those first failures are just apt-listchanges falling over again - wouldn't worry about that bit
[15:30] <oodsway> import tempfile fails as before
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[15:32] <waveform> okay, two options then. The first is the safe option: re-flash the SD card
[15:32] <oodsway> and option 2
[15:33] <Odd0002> download .deb from the servers and install manually?
[15:33] <waveform> The second is the risky "might just work" option (which I take no responsibility for ;): which is "sudo rm -fr /usr/lib/python3.5/__pycache__"; that'll remove the .pyc files with the invalid opcodes
[15:33] <Odd0002> not sure if that will work though
[15:33] <Odd0002> (my method)
[15:33] <waveform> you see the .pyc files aren't *needed* by the python interpreter - they just speed things up
[15:34] <waveform> with the files containing the invalid opcodes gone there's a chance the interpreter will start working again (albeit slower) at which point you can try reinstalling the python3 package again and hopefully get things back to normal
[15:34] <waveform> however, without knowing exactly how the python3 install got broken in the first place there's no guarantees - there might be other things horribly wrong
[15:34] <oodsway> got nothing to loose with option 2
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[15:35] <oodsway> reflash is in my future if #2 goes bad or if I don't do option 2
[15:35] <waveform> sure
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[15:38] <oodsway> stand by...
[15:38] <oodsway> fixed it
[15:39] <oodsway> re-installed python3 and tested with import tempfile which worked
[15:39] <waveform> excellent, good stuff
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[15:39] <oodsway> thank you all so much
[15:40] <waveform> no prob :)
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[17:22] <chris_99> http://obsolescence.wixsite.com/obsolescence/pidp-8
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[17:28] <gordonDrogon> chris_99, I have a couple..
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[17:34] <chris_99> ooh
[17:37] <chris_99> I really fancy an Altair but they're way too expensive heh
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[17:44] <seek^126> hey guys, i've just got the rpi noir cam. is it possible to apply the ir filter on noir images or do i have to use thw filter when takin the image? (i need the nightvisiob - i'm just curious)
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[17:45] <H__> you mean the sheet that comes with it ?
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[17:46] <gordonDrogon> chris_99, https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qFt_9LsAgso
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[17:47] <gordonDrogon> seek^126, it's not a night vision camera.
[17:47] <seek^126> yes. is it possible to add thia filter digitally later on?
[17:47] <gordonDrogon> seek^126, unless you flood the area with IR light.
[17:47] <seek^126> yes, excuse my poor wording. i know
[17:47] <gordonDrogon> the filter is to remove visible light to make the IR have better contrast from what I gather.
[17:48] <H__> and it's only during exposures
[17:49] <seek^126> ok, thank you
[17:50] <chris_99> I used one to see hedgehogs :)
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[17:51] <gordonDrogon> we have a walled garden: no hogs )-:
[17:51] <chris_99> Awh
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[18:38] <chris_99> just watching your video gordonDrogon, that's awesome :)
[18:40] <chris_99> roughly what do the leds mean, i'm assuming they're not a single memory bit
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[18:46] <on3pk> friendofafriend, hey, I figured out whats causing my vps to crash. daemontools was launching lots and lots of ssh instances
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[18:48] <chris_99> what are you using daemontools for out of interest?
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[18:50] <gordonDrogon> chris_99, the pdp-8 LEDs represent the address bus (12-bits), address extensions - 3 bits data, 3 bits code)
[18:50] <chris_99> ah so it represents the address of memory it's trying to grab?
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[18:50] <chris_99> via the current instruction
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[18:57] <gordonDrogon> yes, you see the address, the instruction being fetched/decoded the program counter the accumulator and the "MQ" register which is used by the optional hardware arithmetic unit.
[18:57] <chris_99> neat
[18:57] <gordonDrogon> the larson scanner uses the accumulator and MQ registers.
[18:57] <chris_99> what processor does that use?
[18:58] <gordonDrogon> you mean what's running the pdp-8 emulator?
[18:58] <chris_99> the real pdp-8 sorry
[18:59] <gordonDrogon> the real pdp-8 in the video is an 8/f
[18:59] <gordonDrogon> it was all I could get hold of at that time.
[19:00] <gordonDrogon> I now have a real pdp-8/a though, but it has a much newer panel - just 7-segment displays.
[19:00] <chris_99> 8/f? that's a cpu model?
[19:00] <gordonDrogon> yes, it's one of the later pdp-8 models.
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[19:01] <gordonDrogon> but the cpu is all more or less the same over the range.
[19:01] <chris_99> wait sorry i mean the chp it uses
[19:01] <gordonDrogon> https://lion.drogon.net/IMG_20180128_095121.jpg
[19:01] <chris_99> *chip
[19:01] <gordonDrogon> it's a TTL computer.
[19:01] <chris_99> ohhh
[19:01] <chris_99> i didn't realise that
[19:01] <gordonDrogon> the first pdp was transistor.
[19:01] <chris_99> i thought it used a single cpu chip
[19:01] <gordonDrogon> this was in 1965.
[19:01] <chris_99> ahhh heh
[19:01] <chris_99> didn't realise it was that old
[19:02] <chris_99> i guess they're ridiculously rare now
[19:02] <gordonDrogon> the model 8i which is what that box emulates was the first to use ttl. same instruction set just the cpu on 3 boards rather than a lot more.
[19:02] <gordonDrogon> https://lion.drogon.net/IMG_20180128_095121.jpg
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[19:02] <gordonDrogon> that's my 8/a with 16K of core memory. I'm using a Pi as a serial terminal to it.
[19:03] <chris_99> oh neat, that's a real one :) on the bottom
[19:03] <gordonDrogon> yes.
[19:03] <gordonDrogon> c1971 or so.
[19:03] <gordonDrogon> until a year ago it was in daily-use too.
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[19:03] <chris_99> haha cool
[19:03] <gordonDrogon> there are still a few of them running CNC machine tools.
[19:03] <chris_99> does it have a 'display'?
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[19:04] <gordonDrogon> the display is 7-segment LEDs - where it says Addrs and Disp..
[19:04] <gordonDrogon> you can use the panel to select which register is displayed or to key in code.
[19:05] <chris_99> but did you mean it has a serial terminal too?
[19:05] <gordonDrogon> there is a serial port on most pdp 8's.
[19:05] <gordonDrogon> most of the early ones were connected to a TTY 33 terminal. programs loaded via paper tape.
[19:05] <chris_99> ahh
[19:06] <gordonDrogon> there were high speed tape reader/punches and disk drives too.
[19:06] <chris_99> i'd love a paper tape reader, esp. a usb one ;)
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[19:07] <gordonDrogon> there was one for sale on ebay recently.
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[19:07] <gordonDrogon> ah, it's gone.
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[19:11] <chris_99> awh
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[20:59] <friendofafriend> Heya on3pk, the Raspi is launching lots of ssh instances and the VPS goes down? Is that correct?
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[21:01] <friendofafriend> Did we install daemontools on the VPS or on the Raspi?
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[21:09] <mueslo> hey, i'm having permissions issues with bluetooth on my rpi2 (b)
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[21:09] <mueslo> bluetoothctl works fine as root, but as 'pi' it doesn't find any adapters
[21:10] <mueslo> this is what journalctl says: Aug 03 19:09:49 raspberrypi dbus[281]: [system] Rejected send message, 2 matched rules; type="method_call", sender=":1.26" (u
[21:10] <mueslo> and yes, user 'pi' is in the 'bluetooth' group
[21:10] <mueslo> uid=1000(pi) gid=1000(pi) groups=1000(pi),4(adm),20(dialout),24(cdrom),27(sudo),29(audio),44(video),46(plugdev),60(games),100(users),101(input),108(netdev),111(bluetooth),996(homeassistant),997(gpio),998(i2c),999(spi)
[21:10] <mueslo> any ideas?
[21:10] <friendofafriend> Did you logout and back in, mueslo?
[21:10] <mueslo> yeah
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[21:13] <friendofafriend> When you do an "/etc/init.d/bluetooth status", does it tell you "bluetooth is running"?
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[21:17] <mueslo> friendofafriend: it seems logging out and in wasn't enough, works now after a restart
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[21:18] <friendofafriend> Cool, probably the service needed to restart. Glad it's up.
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[21:22] <Chipm0nk> Is the pi3b+ worth buying now? I'm thinking of using it for a znc and Kodi.
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[21:23] <friendofafriend> Yes, Chipm0nk.
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[21:23] <Odd0002> why would it be worth it now instead of before? has anything changed? (not sure, maybe it's on sale?)
[21:24] <Chipm0nk> Odd0002: I haven't used a pi since the pi 2.
[21:24] <Odd0002> ah, there's not too much different other than higher clock speeds (1.4 GHz now)
[21:24] <Odd0002> and higher power draw
[21:25] <Odd0002> heh
[21:25] <friendofafriend> And built-in wifi/bluetooth.
[21:25] <Odd0002> ah yes I forgot about those
[21:25] <Odd0002> I didn't know they didn't have that in previous pi's
[21:25] <Odd0002> err I forgot
[21:26] <on3pk> friendofafriend, Yes, I think the many ssh processes are causing the VPS's cpu to go over the limits imposed by the host, so the host automates a shutdown
[21:26] <on3pk> daemontools is installed on the rpi
[21:26] <Chipm0nk> I'm reading the pi3b+ has higher ethernet too, is that right?
[21:26] <Odd0002> well it's gigabit but since it's over USB it's limited to the speed of USB 2.0
[21:26] <friendofafriend> on3pk: Do you see output in the webtunnel.log file in /var/log?
[21:27] <Odd0002> which is less than half of gigabit
[21:27] <on3pk> only thing is Session terminated, terminating shell...
[21:27] <friendofafriend> on3pk: Just once, or over and over?
[21:28] <on3pk> just once.
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[21:29] <friendofafriend> on3pk: If memory serves, we had a line that went something like: exec su - pi -c "ssh ...", right?
[21:29] <friendofafriend> on3pk: Let's do a "sudo cp ~pi/.ssh/id_rsa /root/.ssh/"
[21:30] <friendofafriend> on3pk: And then let's remove the part of the command in your run script that says "su - pi -c", and the quotes around the ssh command.
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[21:30] <friendofafriend> on3pk: So that the only thing left is exec <that long ssh command>
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[21:33] <Odd0002> Chipm0nk: also the new pi is 64 bit capable, but raspbian is still only 32 bit so you need a different OS
[21:33] <Odd0002> I myself used a gentoo pi image
[21:33] <Chipm0nk> Archlinux arm is 64bit for the pi, right?
[21:34] <friendofafriend> The new Pi is nice, I think the ODROIDs are worth the money, and those Pine boards. Orange Pis have a lot of shipping cost.
[21:34] <Chipm0nk> friendofafriend: I'm waiting for the odroid me to get released.
[21:34] <Chipm0nk> N2*
[21:35] <Odd0002> archlinux arm can be 64 bit, I'm not sure if there's 32 bit as well but I went with gentoo because I couldn't find an arch image I could easily download (for the pi)
[21:35] <PowaBanga> what is odroid ?
[21:35] <Chipm0nk> PowaBanga: Google.
[21:36] <friendofafriend> It's another single-board computer in the same form factor as the Pi.
[21:36] <Odd0002> I want a SBC that I can fit in an N64 and still be able to emulate up to and including PS3
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[21:36] <on3pk> friendofafriend, nothing new in the log, but now ssh isn't connecting at all
[21:36] <Odd0002> unfortunately even my desktop PC can't do that too well
[21:36] <friendofafriend> on3pk: Try running that ssh command on the command line. Does it work?
[21:36] <Odd0002> since it's only a quad core
[21:37] <friendofafriend> Odd0002: You're going to have to wait a while.
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[21:37] <Odd0002> but then I'll want a PS4 and Xbox Scorpio emulator!
[21:38] <Chipm0nk> Lol.
[21:38] <on3pk> ok, checked the log again and there is a new line
[21:38] <Odd0002> I've been thinking about this since 2012...
[21:38] <on3pk> it says ssh port:host:port yada yada: not found
[21:39] <Khaytsus> I keep thinking of wanting a SBC that I can hook a few hard drives up to that are _reasonably_ fast and decomission my server (which is basically a very small website, my primary shell, personal email server, and raw storage for some lan backups)
[21:39] <Odd0002> first it was GC emulation, then wii/wiiu, now PS3
[21:39] <Khaytsus> One of these days I'll get around to it, but most SBC's don't have proper SATA
[21:39] <friendofafriend> on3pk: Instead of just calling "ssh" in the run script, try using it's full path, "/usr/bin/ssh"
[21:39] <friendofafriend> its full path**
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[21:40] <on3pk> Now it says no such file or directory
[21:40] <on3pk> maybe I typed it wrong, one second
[21:40] <Odd0002> run "which ssh" to find the path
[21:41] <on3pk> Yep, did that. It was in /usr/bin/ssh
[21:41] <Odd0002> ah ok
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[21:42] <on3pk> Do I need the exec and everything or just type the command I want?
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[21:42] <friendofafriend> Try running it from the command line without "exec" in front.
[21:43] <on3pk> Yeah, it seems to work if I type the command in manually
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[21:44] <friendofafriend> OK, so let's kill that process and stop the services running with an "svc -d /etc/service/*"
[21:45] <friendofafriend> Then let's go ahead and issue the command /etc/service/webtunnel/run to run the script directly.
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[21:46] <on3pk> so, get rid of the exec ""?
[21:47] <friendofafriend> You have quotes around the command, after exec?
[21:47] <on3pk> Yes
[21:47] <friendofafriend> OK, so there should be no quotes around the command.
[21:47] <friendofafriend> If I do the same, I get your error message.
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[21:48] <friendofafriend> bash: exec: ssh root@sometotallysecrethost: not found
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[21:49] <on3pk> ok, now it just doesn't look like the key got correctly copied.
[21:50] <Chipm0nk> friendofafriend: could the latest pi be used as a desktop?
[21:50] <on3pk> Host key verification failed.
[21:50] <friendofafriend> That's odd, on3pk. copy-ssh-id -p <port> user@vps
[21:51] <friendofafriend> Chipm0nk: Sure, a Raspberry Pi is powerful enough to do most office/student tasks.
[21:51] <Chipm0nk> My pi2 wasn't.
[21:52] <friendofafriend> I guess it really depends on what you need out of your desktop. If you're writing papers, watching a movie, browsing the web, you're fine.
[21:52] <on3pk> I used a Orange Pi PC to do some basic stuff (even PHP programming) for a few months.
[21:54] <on3pk> friendofafriend, correct me if I'm wrong, but last night the command was to switch users to pi for the service. So, shouldn't I just need to make sure the root user (or w/e) has the pi's key?
[21:54] <friendofafriend> Khaytsus: I love the Raspi, but I'd recommend an ODROID solution for the gigabit networking. The CloudShell2 is pretty cool.
[21:54] <r0b-> has anyone gotten an Rpi3 using the onboard wifi to bridge the Wifi to Ethernet?
[21:54] <r0b-> Google has not been of much help.
[21:54] <BurtyB> r0b-, bridging and wifi don't really go together unless you're using it as an access point
[21:54] <Khaytsus> friendofafriend: None of them seem to have two gigabit ports and sata without being $250
[21:55] <friendofafriend> Khaytsus: They have USB3, add a USB3 NIC.
[21:55] <r0b-> thats the problem. I want it in reverse
[21:55] <Khaytsus> friendofafriend: ick...
[21:55] <Khaytsus> friendofafriend: and can you add multiple drives to an eSATA port? I'd like at least two. OS and storage.
[21:56] <friendofafriend> Khaytsus: CloudShell supports dual SATA drives.
[21:56] <friendofafriend> Khaytsus: And you could put the OS on eMMC or a microSD.
[21:57] <r0b-> basically I am just trying to avoid running a wire upstairs in this old house
[21:57] <friendofafriend> on3pk: We generated an ssh key as the user pi, and copied it to your VPS so we could automate login.
[21:57] <Khaytsus> friendofafriend: One single 2.5" drive. Yuck.
[21:57] <on3pk> right
[21:58] <friendofafriend> on3pk: Whatever is in that run script is running as root, so the command was using su to become the user "pi" and create that reverse ssh tunnel.
[21:58] <on3pk> Right, so is it possible to copy the key for root to use it?
[21:58] <friendofafriend> CloudShell2 has space for two 3.5" drives, Khaytsus.
[21:59] <friendofafriend> on3pk: Yes, cp ~pi/.ssh/id_* /root/.ssh/
[21:59] <r0b-> so BurtyB you are basically saying "it cant be done"?
[21:59] <friendofafriend> r0b-: All things are possible.
[22:00] <r0b-> Yea. just not sure if it is worth it
[22:00] <Khaytsus> friendofafriend: Oh, missed the 2.
[22:00] <r0b-> oh Khaytsus off topic but I met some local people that own Baofengs lol
[22:01] <friendofafriend> Khaytsus: That's a happy solution with a couple drives and a cute LCD, running on an XU4.
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[22:01] <on3pk> still fails
[22:02] <friendofafriend> What does, on3pk?
[22:02] <on3pk> host key verification.
[22:02] <OO-Dragon> r0b-: IF its not, you can always try 2 of these https://store.openmesh.com/products/access-points/grp-om2p.html mesh networks. one on Internet, one for up stairs plugged into whatever device. It also relays your wifi signal for better reception.
[22:02] <on3pk> Would this route be more traight forward: https://superuser.com/questions/1134409/bash-script-to-open-ssh-reverse-tunnel-at-startup/1147163
[22:03] <r0b-> OO-Dragon, way more than I am willing to spend.
[22:03] <BurtyB> r0b-, it's not really within spec - packets from a different MAC are normally dropped by the AP. Some seem to have success others don't
[22:04] <friendofafriend> on3pk: So, that's not a working script.
[22:04] <r0b-> yea. I basically need a "client" that bridges.
[22:04] <OO-Dragon> r0b-: did you find this? https://www.instructables.com/id/Share-WiFi-With-Ethernet-Port-on-a-Raspberry-Pi/
[22:04] <r0b-> yea
[22:04] <r0b-> everything I have tried kills the onboard wifi
[22:05] <friendofafriend> That's why it was posted to stack exchange, for help.
[22:05] <friendofafriend> So, when you ssh into your VPN, do you now get a "Host key verification" error?
[22:05] <OO-Dragon> r0b-: I might be able to help with the wifi part then. I can get that connecting reliably
[22:05] <r0b-> OO-Dragon, I can get Wifi working.
[22:06] <on3pk> I guess I would use one of the answers...
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[22:06] <OO-Dragon> r0b-: just the bridge part?
[22:06] <r0b-> its just when I enable the stuff to do Ethernet forwarding it fails
[22:06] <OO-Dragon> ahh OK, gimmy a few min
[22:06] <r0b-> http://a.co/3tK3zvb my answer to spending money. I will just get 100-125 foot of outdoor rated cable and drape it over the siding
[22:06] <on3pk> if I log in from the pi I don't get the key validation error
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[22:06] <OO-Dragon> haha, hey that's not a bad price
[22:07] <friendofafriend> on3pk: If you login from the Pi? Isn't everything we're doing on the Pi?
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[22:08] <on3pk> Yeah, if I login from the Pi command line I don't get the error. The service however, does
[22:08] <friendofafriend> OK, so let's do a "sudo cp ~pi/.ssh/id* /root/.ssh/"
[22:08] <friendofafriend> Then sudo su - and try to login to your VPS.
[22:08] <r0b-> that might enjoy running along the roof sitting on the shingles.
[22:09] <Khaytsus> friendofafriend: Might have to think about that one more then.. my server here has some hardwrae issue, not sure what offhand, but it randomly reboots :( Up for weeks, other times reboots daily. meh
[22:09] <r0b-> I have 50 foot of indoor rated ethernet that should work. if I can get my father in law to help me punch a hole downstairs to run it through
[22:10] <OO-Dragon> r0b-: did you try running the fancy script on that site? but editing to match whatever your router has?
[22:10] <r0b-> yea
[22:11] <r0b-> I am done trying to get my Pi to do this.
[22:11] <friendofafriend> Khaytsus: CloudShells are nice NASs for the price. You get real gigabit speeds from the NIC, and you can drop another USB3 NIC off the XU4 and bond them.
[22:11] <OO-Dragon> r0b-: ahh ok.
[22:11] <r0b-> I will ask my father in law if he can help me just run a cable to his modem downstairs.
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[22:11] <r0b-> technically if he can do that. I could flood the house with Wifi :P
[22:11] <Khaytsus> friendofafriend: Well, I'd need gigabit to wan and gigabit to lan.. It's also my network router
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[22:12] <on3pk> Ok, it connects now, but we're back to many many processes being spawned
[22:12] <OO-Dragon> r0b-: It's always nicer to have a cable vs wifi any who (so long as the cable is good)
[22:12] <r0b-> yea
[22:13] <r0b-> everything in this house is on Wifi lol
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[22:16] <friendofafriend> on3pk: OK, so let's do a "svc -d /etc/service/*" and then run the script directly with /etc/service/webtunnel/run
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[22:17] <friendofafriend> Khaytsus: You route with your NAS?
[22:17] <Khaytsus> friendofafriend: It's not a NAS.
[22:17] <friendofafriend> You serve files from your router?
[22:17] <Khaytsus> It's a general purpose server I use for my home network.
[22:18] <friendofafriend> That's also routing?
[22:18] <Khaytsus> It's the router, firewall, email, web, etc... and I use it for storing my backups too
[22:19] <on3pk> ok, I think what I did is I added some arguments that would cause ssh to run in the background so daemontools assumed it died.
[22:20] <friendofafriend> on3pk: That makes sense, an -f?
[22:20] <on3pk> yeah
[22:20] <friendofafriend> on3pk: Yeah. Makes sense.
[22:20] <friendofafriend> Khaytsus: That's a busy machine, egads.
[22:21] <Khaytsus> friendofafriend: Not really. It does a lot of small things, but it's just for the home lan.
[22:21] <Khaytsus> Resource wise it's idle 99% of the time
[22:22] <friendofafriend> Khaytsus: I'm fond of using a purpose built machine for routing. OpenWRT is great, so is OPNSense.
[22:23] <Khaytsus> friendofafriend: I'm a fan of not running multiple machines like that
[22:23] <Khaytsus> Again; just for my home stuff. Why have a bunch of machines doing stuff, wasting power
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[22:24] <friendofafriend> I've got a fileserver here that I can Wake-On-LAN when I need something, and a little <10W Raspi grabbing ssh connections from the outside.
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[22:26] <on3pk> Not gonna lie, this seems to be very unstable.
[22:27] <on3pk> seems to go up and down several times a minute
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[22:27] <friendofafriend> on3pk: I'm not really sure what command is being used anymore.
[22:28] <on3pk> exec /usr/bin/ssh -R \*:<remote>:localhost:<local> -p <ssh> <usr>@<host>
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[22:33] <windoze> is there any documentation for the VCHIQ mailbox interface?
[22:33] <friendofafriend> on3pk: exec /usr/bin/ssh -N -g -R \*:<remote>:localhost:<local> -p <ssh> <usr>@<host>
[22:34] <windoze> also, where in rpi/userland repo is khronos_server_lock_func_table() defined?
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[22:48] <on3pk> friendofafriend, I'll let that run a bit and see what happens
[22:49] <windoze> does anyone know how to interface with the VCHIQ mailbox??
[22:52] <friendofafriend> windoze: https://github.com/ms-iot/bsp/tree/master/drivers/mailbox/bcm2836 ?
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[22:54] <windoze> when I call e.g. eglSwapBuffers, what property tags are used for the command?
[22:54] <windoze> when looking at the rpi userland repo, everything was redirected to RPC, which depended on a magic extern khronos_server_lock_func_table
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[22:56] <windoze> currently, all i can do with the mb interface is interact with virtual gpio (e.g. blinking an led)
[22:57] <windoze> there's a similar question at https://stackoverflow.com/questions/39041284/inner-workings-of-raspberry-pi-userland-graphics-driver-not-firmware-or-kernel, but no answer
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[23:03] <on3pk> still up!
[23:03] <friendofafriend> on3pk: Hey, happy days!
[23:04] <friendofafriend> on3pk: So, that's a slick way to do things, because your SSH tunnel will come up on boot and back up if the process is killed.
[23:04] <friendofafriend> on3pk: (Which you can test by killing the ssh process and watching it come back up.)
[23:05] <chris_99> i missed what you're using for that, but i use autossh, for persistent ssh stuff
[23:07] <friendofafriend> chris_99: What starts autossh for you? rc.local?
[23:07] <chris_99> i use a systemd service
[23:07] <chris_99> systemd can also spawn again if a process dies
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[23:16] <friendofafriend> chris_99: daemontools is very small, there's some info about it here. http://cr.yp.to/daemontools/faq/create.html#why
[23:16] <chris_99> yeah i was looking on wikipedia about it, the last update was 2001?
[23:16] <friendofafriend> If you're already using systemd, do you still use autossh?
[23:17] <chris_99> autossh handles the reconnection of ssh stuff
[23:17] <friendofafriend> Right, but if you're already using systemd, wouldn't that be handled anyway?
[23:17] <chris_99> that's a process dies
[23:17] <chris_99> *if a
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[23:19] <chris_99> autossh handles auto-reconnection etc
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[23:20] <chris_99> it does things like this too "Periodically (by default every 10 minutes), autossh attempts to pass traffic on the monitor forwarded port. If this fails, autossh will kill the child ssh process (if it is still running) and start a new one"
[23:21] <friendofafriend> Sounds neat. Are the command line options the same as ssh?
[23:21] <chris_99> yeah more or less they are
[23:22] <chris_99> i use it for a reverse tunnel thing, for a sensor, so i can connect to it, despite it being behind nat
[23:24] <friendofafriend> Pretty neat, chris_99. I'm not crazy about how much is needed to add a service to systemd, when I just want some process monitored. Runit seems pretty neat, thanks for the heads up about the wikipedia article.
[23:25] <chris_99> sec, let me show you the kind of service i use, it's not really that complex imo
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[23:28] <chris_99> https://gist.github.com/anfractuosity/09bcb1e62b4e2ad7fe0f9332c4ff3de9
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[23:34] <friendofafriend> Thanks for that, chris_99. I tend to avoid systemd for the reasons I'm sure you've heard often, plus I'd have to go looking for syntax every time I wanted to make a new service. daemontools is nice because it's cross-platform.
[23:34] <chris_99> yeah heh i know lots of people don't like it
[23:36] <chris_99> i figure it's on all the distros i use now, so i might as well use it heh
[23:39] <friendofafriend> I was doing projects with FreeBSD back when Linux USB device support was poor, so daemontools was nice. Windows people think I'm ripping CDs when I mention it, which makes me happy.
[23:39] <chris_99> haha
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[23:49] <darkdrgn2k> hi
[23:49] <darkdrgn2k> is here a way to connect a serial console (like TTL) FROM the raspberry pi
[23:49] <darkdrgn2k> (not connect usb TTL to raspberry pi but rather have the rasperry pi connect to another device's serial)
[23:50] <mlelstv> sure
[23:50] <darkdrgn2k> just use the normal serial pins?
[23:50] <chris_99> the pi doesn't use ttl logic levels thoo
[23:50] <darkdrgn2k> device im using allows 5v TX line
[23:51] <mlelstv> usually a small adapter board with a MAX3232
[23:51] <darkdrgn2k> cant i use the existing TTL lines and like /dev/tty????
[23:51] <mlelstv> https://www.pi-shop.ch/modmypi-serial-hat-rs232
[23:51] <darkdrgn2k> im not looking for a serial port (rs232)
[23:51] <darkdrgn2k> just rx and tx lines from a gps module
[23:52] <chris_99> darkdrgn2k: the pi uses 3.3V logic, what's the serial device you're trying to talk to
[23:52] <darkdrgn2k> https://www.adafruit.com/product/746
[23:52] <darkdrgn2k> supports both 3.3 and 5v
[23:52] <chris_99> cool
[23:53] <chris_99> should work fine
[23:53] <chris_99> then
[23:53] <darkdrgn2k> so use RXD → Pin 08 TXD → Pin 10
[23:53] <darkdrgn2k> then /dev/AMA0 ?
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[23:55] <seek^126> hey, i activated the pi cam via the /boot/config file. i've read that gpu_mem should be "128". is this setting for both pi cams the same? i've the new one (V2)
[23:55] <darkdrgn2k> yes
[23:55] <darkdrgn2k> thats how you activate the camera, you set the gpu_mem to 128
[23:55] <seek^126> ok, thanks :)
[23:55] <darkdrgn2k> both pi cams? what "both"
[23:56] <seek^126> well there is an old one with 5mp. the new one has 8mp
[23:56] <darkdrgn2k> ah
[23:56] <darkdrgn2k> yes same
[23:56] <seek^126> thx :)
[23:57] <darkdrgn2k> when in doubt raspi-config
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[23:58] <darkdrgn2k> do i need to enable anything on a pi 3 to get the uart ports to work?
[23:59] <chris_99> yeah i think you enable the uart iirc
[23:59] <darkdrgn2k> enable_uart=1 dtoverlay=pi3-disable-bt
[23:59] <darkdrgn2k> look famil?
[23:59] <chris_99> yeah that looks good i think, i did it via rasp-config i think though

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