#raspberrypi IRC Log

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IRC Log for 2018-10-13

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[0:03] <TheNik> Okay, it seems that, no matter what, multi-user.target starts in the 93rd second
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[0:04] <TheNik> I managed to shorten the time of everything else starting up by almost 10 seconds, overall boot time remains 93 seconds because of multi-user.target being late
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[0:13] <tristero> TheNik: something is definitely wrong there. here's my "systemd-analyze critical-chain" output for a headless Pi Zero W: http://paste.debian.net/1047077 so it's booting in about 15 seconds
[0:14] <TheNik> I think I tracked it down to multi-user.target
[0:14] <TheNik> What doe this do?
[0:14] <TheNik> does*
[0:17] <ShorTie> Run level 3 is emulated by multi-user.target
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[0:20] <Snert_> they couldn't call it runlevel3.target lol....
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[0:24] <TheNik> If I understand https://wiki.debian.org/RunLevel correctly, I can just disable multi-user.target and see what happens?
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[0:45] <shbrngdo> TheNik - are you trying to switch to console only, i.e. no GUI?
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[0:47] <shbrngdo> there's a set of commands I took note of a while back to make that happen. it sets up multi-user target as the default
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[0:47] <shbrngdo> "systemctl enable multi-user.target --force" followed by "systemctl set-default multi-user.target" - should still work. I'm no fan of systemd
[0:48] <shbrngdo> so I wrote it down so I could make a system boot into a console when I want it to.
[0:48] <shbrngdo> to get it back to the old behavior you use "systemctl set-default graphical.target"
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[0:49] <shbrngdo> also in my notes is this one (to use console mode): "systemctl disable displaymanager.service" (not sure if you'll actually need that)
[0:50] <Rickta59> shbrngdo: timemage tells me you like attinys
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[0:51] <shbrngdo> attiny? well they come in handy for stuff, though I've never actually built anything with them
[0:51] <shbrngdo> you could use it for a USB serial like the Arduino UNO does
[0:51] <Rickta59> we were talking about the attiny817 816 and attiny3217
[0:51] <Rickta59> attiny 1-series stuff
[0:52] <shbrngdo> haven't used those, sorry
[0:52] <Rickta59> unified memory space
[0:52] <Rickta59> no more progmem
[0:52] <shbrngdo> really? prior to that it was harvard arch so yeah that's something different
[0:52] <Rickta59> still harvard the data bus and code bus don't overlap though
[0:52] <shbrngdo> so you can't read program memory at all?
[0:53] <Rickta59> const uint8_t somestuff[] = { '1', '2' }; ... goes to .rodata in flash
[0:53] <shbrngdo> ok that would be the normal way to do it, yeah
[0:53] <Rickta59> but you don't have to jerk around to get it there
[0:53] <Rickta59> or get it out
[0:53] <shbrngdo> oh so it eliminates the 'progmem' read functions then. interesting.
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[0:54] <shbrngdo> on xmega there's an alias for reading EEPROM, so maybe now it extends to NVRAM
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[0:55] <shbrngdo> I'd guess it'll run a bit faster now
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[0:57] <Rickta59> i think it is slower actually
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[0:57] <Rickta59> unless you remap the ports down into the low address space .. but that is limited to one port at a time
[0:58] <Rickta59> internal 20MHz clock though
[0:58] <Rickta59> and dac
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[1:14] <pi0> can a raspberry pi be used as a 2FA
[1:16] <seek> hey, i'm trying to setup a dockerfile for mumble on the raspberry pi. how do i manage a command like "dpkg-reconfigure mumble-server" in a dockerfile?
[1:18] <friendofafriend> pi0: Sure, like, "He knows the password and he's carrying a Raspberry Pi?"
[1:19] <shauno> seek: does dpkg-reconfigure ask questions in that case?
[1:20] <shauno> (ie, would it usually ask questions, but it can't because it's non-interactive inside a container)
[1:23] <shauno> you're probably looking for something like https://wiki.debian.org/en/PackageManagement/Preseed (tl;dr; you feed the answers into debconf, then dpkg-reconfigure as normal, but it doesn't ask because it already knows the answers)
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[1:26] <seek> oh nice shauno. thats it! thx :)
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[1:29] <shauno> I just noticed you're asking in #docker too. they might have a tidier way to deal with this - that's the dpkg way, not the docker way
[1:31] <shbrngdo> pi0 - 2FA - is that 2 factor authentication? RPi is a full blown computer with a real OS, so probably
[1:32] <shbrngdo> you could work out whatever you might need to get it to work, challenge/response using wifi or bluetooth or whatever
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[2:57] <genr8_> I heard that you could use an old smartphone as a 2-FA device over USB
[2:58] <genr8_> old and disconnected, it just has to be able to time-sync they said if i recall
[2:58] <genr8_> so you should be able to get the pi to do similar
[2:58] <mateothegreat> you could use a mount with your key and connect via usb as if it were a drive
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[5:49] <seek> is there an easy way to route only one specific port through pivpn? i've created a mumble server and i would like to create a vpn that only routs the mumble traffic
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[9:33] <Varazir> Hello, I have a raspberry pi camera module and designing a case for a Zero and the camera. I have a question regarding the angel the of the lens. It's not horizontal with the board.
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[11:38] <orb> you mean parallel
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[13:33] <chris_99> Hi, a friend just mentioned this https://kano.me/store/uk/products/computer-kit-touch to me, i'm just wondering if anyone could suggest a more economical alternative, as that's pretty dear
[13:34] <chris_99> it looks from the GUI that it uses scratch i think
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[13:58] <Habbie> that looks scratch-like but not like it's actually scratch
[13:58] <Habbie> in fact that looks like something i saw on code.org
[13:59] <chris_99> are you sure it's not scratch
[13:59] <chris_99> it looks identical to me
[14:00] <chris_99> ah it is
[14:00] <chris_99> look at the bottom
[14:00] <chris_99> it mentions scatch
[14:00] <chris_99> *scratch
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[14:07] <Habbie> it also mentions many things that are not scratch
[14:07] <chris_99> yah, but that bit must be scratch surely
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[14:30] <chris_99> hmm i guess the majority of the price is for the touch screen
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[17:01] <Smithe> How is the file extra/uname_string in raspberry-firmware generated?
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[18:07] <firippu> my sd card light doesn't work :( got a bum one
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[18:08] <firippu> thing runs fine i just have no idea when disk i/o is happening
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[18:13] <gordonDrogon> can you light it up with echo "default-on" > /sys/class/leds/led0/trigger
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[18:16] <firippu> i got permission denied when doing that command, here are the conents of that file already: none rc-feedback kbd-scrolllock kbd-numlock kbd-capslock kbd-kanalock kbd-shiftlock kbd-altgrlock kbd-ctrllock kbd-altlock kbd-shiftllock kbd-shiftrlock kbd-ctrlllock kbd-ctrlrlock timer oneshot heartbeat backlight gpio cpu cpu0 cpu1 cpu2 cpu3 default-on input panic mmc1 [mmc0] rfkill-any rfkill0 rfkill1
[18:17] <gordonDrogon> you need to do it as root, so sudo -i
[18:18] <gordonDrogon> then run it. (I forget the right runes to do it with sudo directly)
[18:19] <firippu> got it to work, using sudo su
[18:19] <firippu> light didn't come on
[18:19] <mlelstv> echo "default-on" | sudo tee /sys/class/leds/led0/trigger
[18:19] <gordonDrogon> try heartbeat instead of default-on
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[18:19] <gordonDrogon> mlelstv, that's the trick.
[18:20] <gordonDrogon> however it seems the LED is broken.
[18:20] <firippu> nada
[18:20] <firippu> yeap, guess so
[18:20] <firippu> oh well
[18:20] <mlelstv> the world stays dark...
[18:20] <firippu> thanks you two
[18:20] <gordonDrogon> I'd give it a poke with your finger - you never know... wiggle it about ...
[18:20] <gordonDrogon> but maybe they just don't test the LEDs..
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[18:26] <firippu> it's cool, what a neato thing, can't believe this $35 computer is dozens of times better in every way than the computer I had as a child
[18:27] <firippu> i'll just make sure to give it a few moments before unplugging it after shutting down, should be fine
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[18:29] <gordonDrogon> I'd suggest watching the green LED blink 10 times, however ... :-|
[18:30] <firippu> yeah, honestly this thing is most at risk from my cat unplugging it or otherwise disrupting the power
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[20:10] <melt_98> Hello, I would like to create raspberry pi program which will capture 5 images with PI camera and store them in one directory one by one. So far I faced issues as the following:
[20:10] <melt_98> https://imgur.com/a/i0HtXDc
[20:10] <melt_98> Here is my code so far: https://ideone.com/siYEE6
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[20:11] <Lartza> melt_98, You're not calling camera.init
[20:12] <melt_98> Lartza should I call it within loop as camera.init() or ?
[20:12] <Lartza> melt_98, No, you just need () :P
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[20:13] <melt_98> Latza: ok thanks.
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[20:17] <melt_98> Luminax it is assumed that there is a camera at dev/video0 within a system. However, I got an error no such file or directory
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[20:19] <melt_98> I meant Lartza
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[20:20] <Lartza> melt_98, Assumed where by who?
[20:21] <melt_98> Lartza: https://www.pygame.org/docs/tut/CameraIntro.html - I used that as source. Not quite sure which directory ti specify here under quotes
[20:21] <Lartza> melt_98, That guide isn't written for an rpi. Are you using a CSI camera?
[20:21] <stiv> a) do you have a camera? b) where is it?
[20:21] <stiv> doing ls /dev/vid* might help
[20:21] <melt_98> stiv - sure I have noie camera v2
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[20:22] <melt_98> It is plugged into raspberry pi 3
[20:22] <Lartza> melt_98, Did you load bcm2835-v4l2?
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[20:23] <melt_98> Lartza - I am not quite sure is there any command through terminal that I can do that ?
[20:23] <Lartza> melt_98, modprobe bcm2835-v4l2
[20:24] <Lartza> melt_98, Is there a particular reason you are using pygame?
[20:24] <gordonDrogon> melt_98, if all you want to do is capture 5 images, why write a program when a simple shell script will do it?
[20:24] <Lartza> That too :P
[20:25] <melt_98> gordonDrogon - after that I would like to merge all of the images so and need to do some other stuff so I suppose need to have program
[20:26] <gordonDrogon> depends exactly what you mean by merge - there are command-line tools to do lots of image manipulation - imagemagik, pb, etc.
[20:27] <melt_98> Lartza when I type modprobe bcm2835-v4l2 in therminal I gor fatal module bcm2835-v4l2 not found in directory /lib/modules/4.14.71-v7+
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[20:27] * stiv was going to suggest imagemagick
[20:27] <gordonDrogon> but you might want to start by making life simple - write a script to grab 5 images using the exiting tools, then write a program to deal with them...
[20:28] <melt_98> gordonDrogon: Yup, thanks for suggestion, it will do that too. Just need to find this error of not /dev/video0 directory
[20:30] <stiv> plug in the camera and watch for interesting stuff in syslog
[20:30] <Lartza> melt_98, it's not there because you don't access it that way generally
[20:31] <Lartza> If you use one of the cli programs to snap images, you don't need it
[20:31] <Lartza> Or if you use a different library
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[20:31] <Lartza> That's why I asked why pygame
[20:32] <xaviergmail> I'd like to make the root filesystem readonly so as to not get corrupt pi's out in the wild from people unplugging them but the application the pi will run needs to write to a config file every now and then
[20:32] <xaviergmail> Would the best way to do that be to remount rw, write config file and then remount read only?
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[20:33] <melt_98> Lartza - I do not use command line programs I just write python program and execute it
[20:34] <Lartza> I know you are not doing that now
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[20:36] <gordonDrogon> still... you can write a program in any language that calls system ("command") , ...
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[20:43] <Jusii> xaviergmail: put the config file to /boot partition, where firmware etc are. fat doesn't get corrupted that easily
[20:43] <Jusii> you can use symlink from root fs
[20:44] <Jusii> wont hurt to keep that fat RO too, remount rw like you said
[20:44] <xaviergmail> oo
[20:45] <Jusii> I've done it that way since the birth of RPi, hasn't been any issues.
[20:47] <xaviergmail> I haven't encountered any issues since the start of this project and I must have yanked the power cord out at least 50+ times without a readonly rootfs
[20:47] <xaviergmail> I just somehow managed to physically break an sd card
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[21:00] <xaviergmail> What would the best way to display a static fullscreen boot logo as soon as possible during boot?
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[21:01] <xaviergmail> Right now I use fbi from systemd asap
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[21:09] <Jusii> that's what I've used in the past too, one possibility (if resolution is always the same) to grab framebuffer to file when you have the bootlogo on and then cat that file back to fb
[21:09] <Jusii> but currently I've switched to boot video with omxplayer
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[21:12] <shbrngdo> there are external devices you can purchase that will power on/off an RPi safely, waiting for actual system shutdown before power off
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[21:12] <shbrngdo> or you can set things up with an LED to let you know when it's safe to yank the power
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[21:13] <shbrngdo> when it's safe to power off, on a Raspbian system, former output pins become inputs.
[21:13] <shbrngdo> so if you set a pin as output and connect to an LED, the LED will be on until the pin becomes an input
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[21:14] <shbrngdo> I'm not sure the status LEDs will do this on their own, though
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[21:16] <Jusii> I assume xaviergmail is doing something that is used by other people, no way to control somebody unplugging it
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[21:16] <Jusii> some battery shutdown ofcourse is possible, but that usually doubles the price
[21:17] <xaviergmail> Yeah I considered making/buying a graceful shutdown module but realized it wasn't worth it
[21:18] <Jusii> what we got is squashfs root, overlayfs over that (could be just squashfs RO root basically) and some settings stored on fat
[21:18] <xaviergmail> It'll never write to disk unless a field tech is doing maintenance or doing an update
[21:18] <Jusii> if overlayfs ever gets corrupted, it's reformatted and relevant pieces copied/downloaded back.
[21:19] <xaviergmail> And with the salary these guys make I don't think they'll yank the power while hitting the glorious save button
[21:19] <xaviergmail> hmm I'll have to look those up
[21:19] <Jusii> few thousand devices on the field since the first pi, and nowdays, worn sdcard is more likely than just corrupted fs
[21:19] <xaviergmail> Very nice :D
[21:20] <Jusii> and even broken sdcard is pretty rare
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[21:21] <Jusii> it's actually more reliable than those cheap SSDs like adata :)
[21:21] <robertj> Jusii, you've got a few thousand pis in the field?
[21:23] <xaviergmail> I wish I wasn't stuck to using MATE for their outdated video drivers
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[21:36] <Jusii> robertj: yes, we use them for digital signage
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[21:40] <robertj> Jusii, TVs mostly?
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[21:41] <Jusii> anything that accepts upto 1080p HDMI or VGA signal
[21:41] <Jusii> LED screens too
[21:41] <robertj> I'm working on scan controllers for use with kiosks
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[21:55] <Melt_98> Hello, I finished this program for capturing 5 images using RPI camera. However, all of my images are saved in one folder on desktop but the path is not specified in code . How
[21:55] <Melt_98> https://imgur.com/a/QZjtMw2
[21:55] <Melt_98> How can I specify exact path?
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[21:58] <akk> Melt_98: In the pygame.image.save, try specifying it there, like "/home/pi/wherever/img" + ...
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[22:01] <Melt_98> akk: image here is object and I have two arguments image and the name of image as second
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[22:24] <akk> Melt_98: There's an "img" in quotes, that's the beginning of the filename, which could start with an absolute path.
[22:24] <Melt_98> akk thanks I done that
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