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IRC Log for 2018-10-14

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[2:43] <Smeef> Noob question: I read that the Pi doesn't have an RTC, does that mean it's completely lacking any kind of RTC circuitry, or that it has the circuitry just no way to keep it powered like traditional mobos with a button cell?
[2:44] <mlelstv> no RTC at all.
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[2:47] <methuzla> pretty easy to add an external i2c rtc if you need one
[2:49] <ShorTie> it's only use @boot, why spend the money on it
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[3:18] <Arahael> Raspbian seems to work better when using 1GB of zram swap.
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[4:39] <firippu> hmm, so, i might be going the way of using the nvidia jetson TX2 as my desktop, and two raspberry pi as dev/test servers
[4:39] <firippu> i like to leave my stuff on 24/7 so saving power is good
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[5:40] <aswsd> what are some amazing things that can be done with Rpi?
[5:41] <uriah> space ships
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[5:42] <friendofafriend> Spatula.
[5:42] <uriah> aswsd: but for real, the official blog can tell you
[5:43] <aswsd> uriah: i was wondering if there're more unsual stuff than what is being reported mainstream
[5:43] <friendofafriend> I think those handheld Retropie devices are pretty cool! Was scoping out the MintyPi a few days ago.
[5:44] <aswsd> any commercial company which made money selling products based on Rpi?
[5:44] <uriah> yeah
[5:44] <friendofafriend> I'd say there's lots of neat stuff outside of the mainstream being done with Pis. Some have built clusters, I think uriah is doing some radio thing with Raspberry Pis.
[5:44] <uriah> NEC use the compute module 3 in their monitors
[5:45] <uriah> stuff like that
[5:45] <aswsd> uriah: i wonder if NEC needed to pay licensing for using compute module
[5:46] <uriah> they have a blog post about it
[5:46] <uriah> also some people cluster thousands of pis together now
[5:46] <uriah> with the cm3
[5:46] <uriah> neat stuff
[5:47] <aswsd> uriah: cm3 has only 1Gbyte RAM. A bit limiting
[5:47] <uriah> aswsd: pretty sure they're customers like any other, perhaps given the high purchase volume they even get a deal
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[5:47] <uriah> hmm well that's how high the ram goes no?
[5:48] <friendofafriend> I think the CM3 is available in bulk to integrators, the Pi Zero is basically a loss leader.
[5:48] <uriah> or does the 3b+ have 2GB?
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[5:49] <friendofafriend> 1GB LPDDR2.
[5:49] <uriah> ok
[5:49] <uriah> I'd like to get one soon
[5:51] <friendofafriend> They're all fantastic devices, even the oldest Raspi is still so capable compared to a wireless router or some SOHO NAS.
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[5:52] <aswsd> https://www.raspberrypi.org/forums/viewtopic.php?t=221186
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[6:03] <friendofafriend> I like that design. When you use the CM3, you can guarantee easy access to "the devkit".
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[6:23] <Psil0Cybin> guys i need the good reslution for the PiTFT Shield
[6:23] <Psil0Cybin> so the resolution isnt so small.
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[6:37] <friendofafriend> Isn't it 320x240, Psil0Cybin?
[6:37] <Psil0Cybin> yea but how come in my Pi config, i cannot find that resolution
[6:38] <Psil0Cybin> so what is the best way to manually add it in, or to manually set it to that.
[6:40] <friendofafriend> I guess it depends which you have.
[6:40] <friendofafriend> Psil0Cybin: Seen this? https://learn.adafruit.com/running-opengl-based-games-and-emulators-on-adafruit-pitft-displays/rescaling
[6:40] <Psil0Cybin> no i have not, thank you.
[6:40] <Psil0Cybin> checking it out right now.
[6:41] <friendofafriend> Always welcome, my trippin' pal.
[6:41] <Psil0Cybin> lol
[6:41] <Psil0Cybin> you know too much
[6:41] <friendofafriend> I know nothing.
[6:42] <Psil0Cybin> lol
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[9:39] <piesquared> How do I configure a port on my router using commandline on raspbian?
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[9:40] <gordonDrogon> piesquared, whay do you mean by configure a port?
[9:40] <piesquared> Set it up for port forwarding.
[9:40] <piesquared> Like, say 30000
[9:41] <gordonDrogon> oh right. well, since there are a billiong different makes of router, then you'll need to read it's manual to fine out.
[9:42] <piesquared> ...
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[9:42] <piesquared> There was a way to do it using commandline.
[9:42] <gordonDrogon> and this isn't really a Pi question - better off asking in a forum for that router (and maybe even your ISP)
[9:43] <piesquared> Well, it is with the raspbian system, and it’s for a pi project...
[9:43] <gordonDrogon> so you're running a Pi as arouter?
[9:44] <piesquared> No, hosting a game and my parents won’t let me do it the easy way...
[9:44] <piesquared> **cough cough...
[9:44] <gordonDrogon> ok, but you still need the right runes for your router and since we don't know the make/model, we don't know.
[9:45] <gordonDrogon> and I'm sure your parents have good reason to not let you do this.
[9:45] <piesquared> Is there a general thing that works with some?
[9:45] <gordonDrogon> no.
[9:45] <piesquared> They don’t think I know what im doing.
[9:46] <gordonDrogon> so you're arrogant as well as having no respect for them. kids of today, etc .
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[9:46] <gordonDrogon> maybe if you offer to help pay for the internet connection?
[9:46] <piesquared> Well, more like it, I try to explain it, and I do know what im doing, but they don’t understand computer stuff...
[9:47] <orb> what's stopping you from just doing it?
[9:47] <piesquared> Dunno where the manual is.
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[9:49] <piesquared> It’s some sorta cable router, all I know
[9:49] <piesquared> I can look tomorrow, late.
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[12:09] <phinxy> Hey, There is always the option of UPNP to open a port from the raspberry
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[12:10] <phinxy> Thats what I do because the router only allows port forwarding on a web interface which I dont have
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[12:23] <echoSMILE> this made my day: https://github.com/sakaki-/gentoo-on-rpi3-64bit
[12:34] <mfa298> phinxy: not all routers support upnp for port forwarding, and for those that do you might still need to turn it on (it can be seen as a security risk)
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[14:55] <lowkeycoat1> im not sure how. but i set up my pi to boot from usb and now it needs the mouse/keyboard to boot up. otherwise it just sits there with red light. where do i start in fixing this?
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[16:26] <halabund> I am trying to install Mathematica on Raspbian, but 'apt install wolfram-engine' says
[16:26] <halabund> "E: Package 'wolfram-engine' has no installation candidate"
[16:26] <halabund> Any idea about what may be wrong?
[16:26] <halabund> I just removed it in an attempt to reinstall it and force it to upgrade to the latest version.
[16:26] <halabund> I had 11.2 and I am trying to get 11.3
[16:27] <halabund> Now I cannot even reinstall it.
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[16:37] * stiv guesses: either the package name is wrong or the package is not in any of the repositories in your list
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[16:38] <halabund> stiv: This package is included in the default Raspbian distribution
[16:39] <halabund> Did they change the name from 'wolfram-engine' to something else? How can I even find out?
[16:39] <halabund> I don't want to have to reimage a card just to get it back
[16:44] <mfa298> from the release notes (http://downloads.raspberrypi.org/raspbian/release_notes.txt)
[16:44] <mfa298> * Removed Mathematica
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[16:45] <mfa298> so might be they can't distribute it any more or something like that
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[16:46] <MrPocketz> ohhi
[16:47] <halabund> mfa298: That's nasty, and I highly doubt that they can't distribute is given that Wolfram released a new version for the RPi just 3 months ago
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[16:48] <swensson> Anyone know a really, really good touchscreen for a raspberry ?... The higher resolution the better...
[16:51] <mfa298> halabund: quick google found https://www.raspberrypi.org/forums/viewtopic.php?t=224629&p=1376926
[16:51] <stiv> you can argue about why, but "Removed Mathematica" sounds declarative
[16:51] <gordonDrogon> My understanding is that the wolfram license deal with the foundation ended recently.
[16:52] <mfa298> that's what the fourth post in that link says (from JamesH so reasonable to believe)
[16:53] <halabund> Sounds like a one-sided decision from the Raspbian side. Very nasty. They didn't evebn provide an explanation and also removed all Mathematica-related sections of their forums, including archived content.
[16:55] <mfa298> the start of that thread suggests they had a five year contract to provide it for free in their images. That contract has now ended (for whatever reason) so they can't provide it any more.
[16:55] <stiv> can you get it from wolfram?
[16:56] <mfa298> it could well be that wolfram wouldn't renew the license.
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[16:56] <mfa298> I suspect you can get it direct from wolfram, but probably only in exchange for $$$
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[16:57] <halabund> of course everyone assumes that Wolfram doesn't license it because open source = good and commercial = evil, obviously /s
[16:57] <halabund> we'll see
[16:57] <gordonDrogon> there are alternatives though - e.g. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_computer_algebra_systems
[16:57] <gordonDrogon> I guess it all depends on your needs and uses.
[16:58] <gordonDrogon> lets not forge the foundation is a charity with limited resources.
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[17:02] <r3> I'm still mad at Wolfram, and hate to use their stuff anymore. I had a student license - which was unnecessarily difficult to get - and then was harassed every 4-6 months to renew (and continue to provide proof) - and the moment my schedule had a hole in it, the license was revoked, and then I couldn't get another (student) one. It was really required for the course, which is another
[17:02] <r3> thing I was mad about, and eventually had to pay a LOT of money for a license to complete the classwork. And they were snooty to me while I was paying, too - it wasn't just one person there, it was many
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[17:05] <akk> I just joined, presumably someone already linked https://paulromer.net/jupyter-mathematica-and-the-future-of-the-research-paper/ ?
[17:06] <gordonDrogon> r3, if the university made it a requirement then why didn't they provide it?
[17:06] <r3> hahah
[17:06] <r3> no, really, they should have, but ugh, they don't provide anything
[17:07] <akk> Not even proof of studenthood that would suffice for a license?
[17:07] <r3> there was talk about creating an LLC made up of students so that they could get a corporate discount on licenses
[17:07] <stiv> i've taken a couple on-line courses where they provided a license for the duration of the course + some time
[17:07] <gordonDrogon> I'm not against paying for software, but I do feel that the price has to be justifiable.
[17:08] <gordonDrogon> especially - like in worframs case - where there are chaper/free alternatives. if you're paying, then you need that advantage.
[17:08] <r3> I did have proof of studenthood, but Wolfram really was overly suspicious. Several times they demanded more than just my ID, such as a letter from the dean. It was all very over the top.
[17:08] <akk> A letter from the dean, wow.
[17:08] <r3> and this was some time ago, gordonDrogon, and while I am sure there are alternatives now, there just wasn't anything close to it at the time.
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[17:08] <gordonDrogon> sure.
[17:08] <stiv> as opposed to a photo-shopped copy of your student id?
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[17:09] <gordonDrogon> a bit short-sighted of the university there, though.
[17:09] <akk> I have a hard time getting motivated toward mathematica anyway, because if I write code in it and tried to share it, hardly anyone could run it.
[17:09] <akk> Writing python code, you can share with a much wider audience.
[17:10] <r3> I used to joke that it was simpler to renew my security clearance than it was to renew my Wolfram subscription.
[17:10] * stiv ended up using octave because it was smaller/free/already installed
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[17:13] <akk> One tempting thing about wolfram is that they have datasets, seems like it might save a lot of time there.
[17:13] <halabund> akk: To be frank, Romer's article is some really strange conspiracy theory about how PDF import is purposefully made to be broken in Mathematica.
[17:13] <halabund> "Wolfram made it hard to share a readable PDF version of a notebook because it wanted someone like me to distribute content in its proprietary file format, the CDF."
[17:13] <akk> Hunting down datasets is the hardest part of most data programming.
[17:13] <halabund> It's quite silly.
[17:14] <halabund> The only reason people even take it seriously (and started to re-post it) is because he go the prize
[17:14] <akk> halabund: That's true, it's hard to take the PDF part that seriously.
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[17:15] <akk> And comparing a PDF paper to a Jupyter notebook seems like apples and oranges.
[17:15] <akk> (except that the fact that with python, you CAN do a notebook, that's relevant)
[17:15] <halabund> Anyway, I wrote to Wolfram to ask about whether Mathematica will keep being avialable for the RPi.
[17:15] <halabund> It seems clear that the RPi foundation has no interest. Let's hope Wolfram will host a free download.
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[17:19] <r3> I wouldn't hold your breath :(
[17:19] <halabund> We'll see
[17:19] <r3> but thank you for writing to them on our behalf ;)
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[17:20] <akk> I really wonder how many Pi users there are who a) want to use mathematica and b) wouldn't mind the performance on a Pi
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[17:21] <halabund> I wrote on my own behalf, r3
[17:21] <r3> performance on a Pi? I thought Mathematica was all cloud-computed?
[17:21] <r3> halabund, to be sure, but I hope that we all can benefit, which is all I meant. :)
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[17:22] <akk> I tried running it on a pi1, and the performance was staggeringly bad. I'm sure it's somewhat better on a 3, I never got around to trying.
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[17:22] <halabund> r3: No, you can ask for cloud computation, but it's not ideal. It actually runs on the RPi. However, you *can* get free access in the cloud, through a browser, with some limitation
[17:22] <akk> In truth, the cloud version is a little slow too, but a lot faster than it is on a pi1.
[17:22] <halabund> Evaluation time is limited
[17:23] <r3> interesting, as I said, it has been some time since I've fooled with it, and have no plans on doing so anytime soon.
[17:23] <akk> The free cloud access has a lot of limitations in the data you can access.
[17:23] * r3 nods
[17:23] <r3> because of course it does
[17:23] <halabund> akk: Can you give an example of such a limitation? Most things I tried worked, however, evaluation time was limited
[17:24] <akk> halabund: I can't remember what I was trying to compute; I think it was long-term weather trends, so it was something like, temperature and rainfall over 40-50 years
[17:25] <akk> halabund: and I found that I could do it for 5 years, or maybe 8, but it wouldn't let me access long time slices even if I made it coarse so it still wasn't a lot of data points.
[17:25] <halabund> akk: It doesn't limit any of that stuff. The problem with the curated data is that it is so slow to access that I find it basically useless. Perhaps it was so slow that you reached the evaluation limit.
[17:25] <akk> (I might be misremembering about it being temp/rainfall, but it was definitely a number-of-years problem like that.)
[17:25] <halabund> I do not find any of the curated data useful because of this, and I wish they didn't waste time on that feature
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[17:28] <akk> The curated data seemed like the big draw, but in practice everything I tried, it turned out I couldn't get the data.
[17:28] <akk> I thought that was because I was using the web version, and that a licensed version might have fewer limitations.
[17:28] <akk> But maybe not.
[17:28] <halabund> r3, akk: I got feedback from Wolfram and they said that they are committed to providing Mathematica on the Raspberry Pi. There should be a workaround soon.
[17:29] <mfa298> halabund: from the little that's been said I don't think you can really say "It seems clear that the RPi foundation has no interest.". RPF presumably signed a contract 5 years ago to distribute it free to end users in the raspbian image (we don't know if it was free to RPF). it could be wolfram turned around and said if you want a new license you have to pay $1m/year.
[17:29] <halabund> It was surprisingly fast.
[17:29] <halabund> mfa298: See my comment above.
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[17:32] <mfa298> "they are committed to providing Mathematica on the Raspberry Pi." could mean anything (not that they're willing to provide a license to RPF to distribute for free), I wouldn't be shocked if they provide it directly to individuals in return for $$.
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[17:33] <r3> that would seem to be more their style, mfa298 :\
[17:35] <stiv> "everyone is evil and no one cares" - which is why mathematica was on the pi in the first place (and no, that doesn't make any sense)
[17:38] <halabund> Well, we shall see :-)
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[17:42] <mfa298> I wouldn't be surprised if the original reasoning (5 years ago) was that it was a way to get people interested on a platform that wasn't ideal for larger data sets (so people would buy licenses to use it on a PC if they had larger datasets) but now we have the Pi2/Pi3B/Pi3B+ that argument doesn't work as well.
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[17:49] <stiv> that is certainly a possibility. my guess is the license expired while no one was paying attention.
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[17:55] <gordonDrogon> there seemed to be quite a few partnerships forged in the early Pi days though - I've no idea if they were Pi Foundation led or their partners led - e.g. Oracle (database for the Weather station) and Java, possibly others I've glossed over..
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[18:38] <Water_27300935_> Where the network config file on raspbian ?
[18:39] <Water_27300935_> I want to add a hidden ESSID WiFi network.
[18:40] <Water_27300935_> But it disconnect auto when set ESSID as hidden.
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[18:48] <gordonDrogon> Water_27300935_, Raspbian is mostly Debian, so if you find a Debian guide that does what you want, then it has a good chance of working on the Pi.
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[18:51] <methuzla> Water_27300935_, try /etc/wpa_supplicant/wpa_supplicant.conf
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[20:37] <krautguy> Hi, i read the "Programming Games with C++" Tutorial Articles in the MagPi that showed how to use OpenGL. Can you recommend a special book about OpenGL/GLES for the Pi?
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[20:43] <stiv> can we assume you looked for resources on opengl.org ?
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[20:54] <Water_27300935_> methuzla: yes,the network config file is /etc/wpa_supplicant.conf, but when set "hide ESSID" on router, the connection auto disconnect.
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[20:56] <methuzla> then you need to....oh...they quit....nvm
[20:56] <Khaytsus> hide essid is useless anyway
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[21:07] <Primer> Fresh install of latest Raspbian stretch, updated/upgraded. My goal is to set my laptop's pulseaudio to the pi's pulseaudio network sink. There seem to be thousands of different ways of doing this. I was hoping someone here could point me towards something they've done recently.
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[21:15] <Primer> ugh, pulse crap wants X crap
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[21:16] <Khaytsus> You're probably trying to install pavucontrol or something
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[21:18] <Primer> it's one of the packages this guide suggests
[21:18] <Primer> but this guide is so old it also mentions files that don't exist
[21:19] <Primer> and apt-file search path/to/file yields nothing as well
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[22:07] <Primer> awesome, got it working
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[22:15] <Primer> Now to see if I can get it do a CEC command to get the Denon to switch to it if I send a stream
[22:16] <Primer> I have a feeling this will not be possible
[22:16] <Habbie> why not?
[22:16] <Primer> It'd have to be triggered by pulseaudio
[22:16] <Primer> as this is what I'm using on the pi
[22:17] <Habbie> ah
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[22:18] <Primer> I suppose I could use the source and cobble something, but I'd rather not
[22:18] <Primer> it'd only save me the step of switching the Denon manually
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[22:20] <fedepancho> Hi, I have a python script that listens to a multicast socket. It runs fine when executed from typing "python camara.py" on my pi user prompt (its a raspberry with raspbian squeeze), but when executed by adding on /etc/rc.local :su pi -c 'python camara.py' I get -- socket.error: [Errno 19] No such device. It runs fine from promt, if it is executed as root, or as pi user. Any Ideas?
[22:22] <Habbie> fedepancho, you got a fine answer in #python
[22:22] <Habbie> fedepancho, to expand on that answer, make a systemd unit to run it, so you can make sure it does not run before the network is ready
[22:23] <stiv> as a general rule, it helps to ask a specific question and to show the code
[22:23] <Habbie> that too
[22:24] <Habbie> and also, if you ask in one channel, and you get a response, it's kind of rude to just go some other place and ask your question again as if nothing happened
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[22:30] <fedepancho> ok Habbie, its that I don't know if the problem is the python code or something else
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