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IRC Log for 2018-10-17

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[1:12] <Smeef> Not sure if this is common knowledge/new behavior, but over the past couple weeks I've tested 8 different models of USB hubs on all variations of the Pi Zero and two of them didn't work out-of-the-box.
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[1:13] <Habbie> Smeef, did they work non-out-of-the-box?
[1:13] <Smeef> Habbie, I couldn't get them to work at all
[1:14] <Smeef> Although, they did work perfectly fine on my PCs
[1:14] <Habbie> probably a power issue then
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[1:15] <Smeef> The most load they had at any given time was two of the ports populated with one Wi-Fi dongle and one 2.4GHz wireless KMB dongle, nothing that would draw a lot of power
[1:16] <Habbie> ok one step back
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[1:16] <Habbie> did they fail immediately, or under this load?
[1:16] * uriahheep wonders if anyone has gotten VC4CL running on aarch64, in here or in general
[1:16] <Habbie> the pi1 would easily fail with a single wifi dongle, no hubs involved
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[1:16] <Smeef> They failed immediately
[1:16] <Habbie> how did you determine that?
[1:17] <uriahheep> must have rebooted immediately
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[1:17] <Smeef> They throw up error messages when Raspbian boots
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[1:17] <Habbie> with the dongles in there, or without?
[1:17] <Smeef> With and without
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[1:17] <Habbie> ok
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[2:10] <uriahheep> so, nobody?
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[2:10] <uriahheep> no opencl / VC4CL on 64-bit rpi3?
[2:10] <uriahheep> I'm in the process of trying this
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[2:13] <uriahheep> guess not
[2:14] <uriahheep> probably unsupported still
[2:14] <CoJaBo> no idear lol
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[2:31] <FireHopper> what I'm currently working on https://www.flickr.com/photos/firehopper/albums/72157700957050681
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[2:33] <uriahheep> cool
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[2:36] <RoyK> uriahheep: or hot ;)
[2:36] <uriahheep> true
[2:37] <uriahheep> both then
[2:37] <RoyK> if those LEDs really disappates 100W, you'll need a hell of a cooling system, and a bunch of batteries
[2:37] <uriahheep> so schrödinger's flashlight project
[2:37] <uriahheep> ?
[2:39] <Khaytsus> I have schrodingers flashlights sometimes.. is it on or off in my pocket?
[2:40] * RoyK wonders how scshrödinger's flashbacks would be like
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[2:41] <shauno> like the bits in Dune where he's not sure if he's seeing past/present/future?
[2:42] <uriahheep> heh
[2:42] <uriahheep> I have yet to rewatch that
[2:45] <shauno> I've read it more times than I can keep track of, and never seem to make any headway on the next book
[2:46] <Khaytsus> I love Dune
[2:46] <Khaytsus> I've read them all... original, the later books his son interpolated, the prequels his son made up on the fly...
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[3:04] <ruser> Hi i have a pi that i screwd networking on. is there any way i can force noobs recovery to drop me into shell over networking? i have been able to only find vncinstall, but i can't get to any shell prompts.
[3:04] <ruser> also, the machine that's currently available is win7 but it wont' mount any ext drives. i've tried some software
[3:05] <ruser> i guess that would have been the other option to directly edit network interfaces files
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[3:09] <Khaytsus> Just pop out the sdcard
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[3:10] <Khaytsus> Oh, you're on a braindead host OS.
[3:10] * Khaytsus shrugs
[3:10] <ruser> so i was setting up networking to act as a wifi spot when plugged to ethernet, i succeded in that, but i can't connect to pi anymore over the ip it had assigned
[3:11] <ruser> but it does bridge the interfaces
[3:11] <ruser> and i have no hardware to attach as a sreen/keyboard
[3:11] <ruser> is there a way to force ssh to start on noobs?
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[3:12] <ruser> or can i reset networking setup somehow via cmdline.txt?
[3:13] <Snert> just reflash the card and start again
[3:14] <ruser> ugh,this was finishing touch on the project i'd rather not reformat
[3:14] <Snert> bummer.
[3:14] <ruser> i'm flying in ... 9 hrs
[3:14] <ruser> yeah
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[3:15] <ruser> is there a way to drop out from vncinsteller into a console?
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[3:23] <ruser> damn, noobs has a browser, but i can't drop too a shell
[3:25] <ruser> (in vncinstall)
[3:26] <ruser> is there a way to force noobs to start an ssh deamon?
[3:27] <ruser> The latest version of NOOBS should look for the ssh file on its Windows-readable partition.
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[3:27] <ruser> but that didn't do anyting
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[3:31] <gxnyne> I never personally used NOOBS, I just used Rufus to write the headless stretch lite to the sdcard and go from that point.
[3:32] <gxnyne> Are you trying to install the UI version of stretch?
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[3:35] <ruser> gxnyne: i am working on a project and as a final step was trying to setup wifi bridge to eth0. i succeeded, but messed up interfaces or routing and no longer can access pi oover network. I do not have a monitor or kb to hook up. I can't mount the extended partitions aparently either. so i'm trying a way to either drop into shell from noobs , mount the partitition and modify network setup to allow for the connec
[3:36] <ruser> without reinstalling the os since i need to depart for my flightin about 9 hrs
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[3:40] <gxnyne> https://raspberrypi.stackexchange.com/questions/15192/installing-raspbian-from-noobs-without-display - Perhaps the Post-Install section could help?
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[3:42] <ruser> well, os is isntalled, but network is screwed up, so not really since post install requrest to have working netowkring
[3:43] <gxnyne> Sorry I can't help more, maybe someone with an answer will chime in soon?
[3:43] <ruser> i'm loosing hope, been at this for an hour :/
[3:44] <ruser> maybe i will need to pull a second all nighter
[3:44] <ruser> which is how i made the error in the first place
[3:45] <gxnyne> The only documentation I found for your scenario sounds like you tried. The place a "ssh" file with no extension into the boot partition of the SD card. :(
[3:48] <gxnyne> Is it possible to maybe disable the wifi through the config to shutdown the bridge until you can sort the issue? (Assuming you bridged eth0 to wifi)
[3:51] <ruser> i screwed my network/interfaces
[3:51] <ruser> i screwed my /etc/network/interfaces file
[3:51] <ruser> if i can only edit it
[3:53] <ruser> okay, so i'm now searching for the software that will mount ext partition on win7
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[3:53] <ruser> to read/write
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[3:55] <gxnyne> could maybe just try a ubuntu live cd or something, boot into that and plug in the usb, edit the file and reboot back to win?
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[3:59] <ruser> oh that's not a bad idea
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[4:11] <emaczen> I'm pretty sure I had my raspberypi3 working with a raspberry pi camera and v4l2, but now for some reason it seems to hang indefinitely on vidioc_dqbuf
[4:11] <emaczen> dmesg shows --> bcm2835-v4l2: timed out waiting for frame completion
[4:12] <emaczen> Any ideas?
[4:13] <emaczen> My code has worked on a rpi0 rpi zero compatible camera, and several USB webcams
[4:13] <emaczen> I'm also pretty sure I tested it with the rpi3 but I can't quite remember...
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[4:43] <ruser> gxnyne: that was a good suggestion, i'm getting closer, i can now edit files!
[4:45] <ruser> gxnyne: and success!
[4:46] <ruser> all of this took only 2 hrs. thanks for the ideas
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[4:47] <gxnyne> No problem! Glad you got it sorted out.
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[5:04] <Smeef> It's been a productive day, I finally got my retro gaming handheld back on track after desoldering and dismantling it multiple times trying to troubleshoot it (the USB hub PCB I was using was garbage), and I upgraded my Tic-Tac box from a 285mAh to 450mAh battery
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[11:06] <Gobo708> Hi All, I have a problem with a pi that keeps corrupting SD cards...
[11:07] <Gobo708> Anyone had this before?
[11:08] <Gobo708> has been running fine, and all of a sudden networking stopped.. dmesg shows some ext4 errors... cant run fsck because it says its not installed, can apt-get install fsck because it says its not availablew
[11:08] <Lartza> Gobo708, Bad power usually
[11:08] <Gobo708> even from standard PSU?
[11:09] <Lartza> :S One of the official ones?
[11:09] <Gobo708> yeah
[11:09] <Lartza> Then possibly not, but that's THE most common cause
[11:09] <Gobo708> its not showing any power issues on boot.. little lightning bolt...etc
[11:09] <Lartza> I stopped having all corruption issues by buying the official PSU for instance :P
[11:10] <Gobo708> yeah, this has always used the official one... I have another USB hub that is rated correctly which my other pi plugs into.. that thing runs seemlessly
[11:10] <Gobo708> Friend just asked if I had this thing near a lamp
[11:10] <Gobo708> answer was yes
[11:10] <Gobo708> could light do this?
[11:11] <Lartza> It... shouldn't
[11:11] <Lartza> A camera flash VERY close can reboot the pi
[11:11] <Lartza> That's probably what your friend is talking about
[11:11] <Gobo708> wouldnt be so painful, but its a brand new card, and I spent hours getting octoprint running and streaming correctly last night
[11:11] <BurtyB> is it a new official 2.5A supply or an old lower rated one?
[11:12] <Gobo708> yes 2.5... picture of a raspberry on it
[11:14] <Gobo708> errors are bad_extra_isize 65535
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[11:15] <BurtyB> have you been shutting it down properly or just powering off?
[11:15] <gordonDrogon> the other issue might be overheating ..
[11:16] <Gobo708> maybe time to throw the board out
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[11:17] <ShorTie> have you looked thru dmesg for any hints ??
[11:17] <Gobo708> yeah
[11:17] <Gobo708> same messages
[11:17] <Gobo708> its all device mmcblk0p2 though
[11:18] <Gobo708> which made me think it was just something to do with unplugging the comm ports octoprint was expecting
[11:18] <BurtyB> mmcblk0p2 is the second partition on the SD card
[11:19] <Gobo708> yeah, do you have to resize that after imaging or something?
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[11:19] <Gobo708> errors are bad_extra_isize 65535 (inode size 256)
[11:20] <Gobo708> actually it has booted.. and its throwing errors at the login prompt
[11:20] <Gobo708> but if I ignore them I can still type commands
[11:21] <Gobo708> ghost in the machine
[11:21] <Gobo708> oh yeah, its slammed... read only file system now
[11:22] <Gobo708> slowly hosing itself
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[11:47] <chris_99> Hi, has anyone else noticed old versions of raspbian don't seem to work on the latest Pis? I tried one (jessie) and it showed the lightning symbol?
[11:47] <chris_99> and didn't boot strangely
[11:48] <Lartza> Don't use jessie, but still 3B+?
[11:49] <chris_99> yeah it's the 3B+
[11:50] <chris_99> it's not critical, was just wondering why it didn't work
[11:50] <Lartza> Because it's a 3B+ :P
[11:50] <chris_99> oh heh
[11:51] <ShorTie> the image can be no older then the release date of the pi
[11:51] <Lartza> I mean one can be more specific than that but
[11:51] <gordonDrogon> you might be able to boot jessie if you copy the bootloaders/start.elf over to the jessie SD card, however ..
[11:51] <chris_99> ahh gotcha
[11:51] <gordonDrogon> they kernel might not know about the wifi & ethernet, so copy the kernel too (& modules)
[11:56] <chris_99> ah heh, sounds a lot of work, i do have stretch working fine now, the reason i wanted jessie, was just for the old gcc, but i guess i can just install that from a repo
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[12:08] <chris_99> jessie would work on the 3B though right?
[12:09] <gordonDrogon> think so. My 3B's have jessie on them.
[12:09] <chris_99> sweet , thanks
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[12:31] <ShorTie> chris_99, you know where to get old raspbian images ??
[12:31] <chris_99> yup
[12:31] <chris_99> http://downloads.raspberrypi.org/raspbian/images/ is where i was looking
[12:32] <chris_99> i got the jessie ver from there
[12:32] <chris_99> i couldn't see the 'lite' version thoo
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[12:35] <shiftplusone> Anyone happen to be familiar with DER encoding? It doesn't seem to like an integer starting with 00? What's the way around that? https://pastebin.com/HKDaZwhx
[12:37] <ShorTie> shiftplusone, are the lite images archived any where ??
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[12:37] <shiftplusone> ShorTie: same place, but in raspbian_lite
[12:39] <chris_99> http://downloads.raspberrypi.org/raspbian_lite/images/ nice
[12:39] <ShorTie> Cool
[12:39] <ShorTie> Thankz .. :)~
[12:40] <chris_99> that's part of asn.1 right shiftplusone, whatcha doing out of interest? it's a kind of serialisation format right?
[12:41] <shiftplusone> encoding R and S values of a ECDSA signature into a format openssl understands. It's working fine unless a value starts with 0x00
[12:41] <chris_99> ah interesting
[12:42] <shiftplusone> and yeah, it's asn.1. I'm using dumpasn1 to verify and it's spitting out that error
[12:42] <shiftplusone> and openssl fails to verify
[12:43] <shiftplusone> I wonder if the issue is that it doesn't make sense to pad an integer with 00s for no reason, and it just expects me to drop that byte and shorten the lengths
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[12:46] <shiftplusone> Ah.. "Verified OK" that was it.
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[12:48] <chris_99> intriguing
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[12:51] <mlelstv> https://docs.microsoft.com/en-us/windows/desktop/seccertenroll/about-integer
[12:53] <mlelstv> a leading zero is added only when the most significant bit is '1', otherwise it would be interpreted as a negative value.
[12:53] <mlelstv> so 00 CD is fine, 00 02 isn't.
[12:54] <shiftplusone> Yup, makes sense. I had code to add the 00, but none to remove any that are already there. I guess now I need to check the second byte as well, because if that's bigger than 0x7F, then the 00 needs to be left in.
[12:55] <mlelstv> that's ASN.1 for you :)
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[12:56] <mlelstv> the advantage is that there is only one unique encoding for an integer.
[12:57] <shiftplusone> yay =(
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[14:32] <bloony> anyone with experience of running freebsd on raspberry pi 3 B+ ?
[14:35] <gordonDrogon> not yet...
[14:35] <gordonDrogon> as in not yet for me, there is a chap who comes here who is actively running it on a Pi.
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[14:45] <bloony> gordonDrogon: yeah I see there are images for pi 3.. but seen that some have trouble with B+.. :/
[14:46] <gordonDrogon> it has a different wifi and usb hub chip on
[14:47] <gordonDrogon> so maybe the fbsd people simply haven't caught up. much less resources than linux.
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[14:49] <bloony> yeah
[14:51] <gordonDrogon> it has been some times since I last ran fbsd though. possibly > 20 years but I guess it's still a viable alternative.
[14:52] <Khaytsus> I hear people still use it
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[14:55] <bloony> A friend of mine use openbsd on his laptop and for work.. and he preaches about it so want to try.. might run it on my laptop later too :)
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[14:55] <bloony> Stuff I read about it sounds promissing :)
[14:58] <Khaytsus> I can't say anything about about it, but I'd consider it more of a hobby than a full time thing... unless you've used it for years I suppose.
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[14:59] <gordonDrogon> I know there are people and companies dedicated to using it rather than Linux - various claims, speed, robustnss, stuff like that.
[15:00] <gordonDrogon> "better the devil you know" - systemd, etc.
[15:00] <Khaytsus> But.......... freebsd's logo is a devil
[15:00] <gordonDrogon> isn't that bsd's logo in-general?
[15:00] <Khaytsus> Seriously though, yes, I have a million gripes about systemd.. but it works
[15:01] <Khaytsus> Yeah, true, just bsd.. not specific to frisbee
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[15:02] <gordonDrogon> so it's "Beastie the Daemon" (the logo)
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[15:11] <Li> I found 3 different distros of debian for arm processors and I'm not sure which one I should download to try installing on raspberry pi 3? armhf armel arm64
[15:11] <Habbie> don't do armel
[15:11] <Habbie> the other two are compatible with the pi3 cpu
[15:12] <Habbie> (i don't know the actual status of bootable images)
[15:15] <pwillard> I have a million gripes about systemd - You are not alone
[15:17] <BurtyB> what he said
[15:21] <Li> what is armel?
[15:22] <gordonDrogon> li why not use Raspbian?
[15:23] <pwillard> BSD is "out off the box" safer... but translate that to "a pain in the butt" to make usable.
[15:25] <pwillard> But that is what the "nerdies" like about it... is that it is inherently safe enough to attach to the Internet directly on first boot. (supposedly)
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[15:36] <Li> gordonDrogon: why did you assume I'm not using Raspbian?
[15:37] <Lartza> Li, There are no different distros of raspbian for arm
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[16:25] <Minecon724> hi
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[16:35] <RoyK> ho
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[19:57] <TheNik> If I have a voltage regulator powering a Pi Zero and need to avoid backfeed when connecting to it through USB, can I use a MOSFET as shown in the following schematic as a simplified case of an "ideal diode"? https://drive.google.com/file/d/1P5YhsXjKDakYGpQF_gOGwjXDGdflTJR5/view?usp=drivesdk
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[19:59] <gordonDrogon> so yesterday a schottky diode, today the mosfet ?
[20:00] <TheNik> I was planning to use a Schottky but it would generate significant heat
[20:00] <TheNik> I want to explore my options first
[20:00] <gordonDrogon> 0.1Ω at 2 amps is 0.4 watts.
[20:01] <TheNik> 0.1 Ohm?
[20:01] <TheNik> Why?
[20:01] <gordonDrogon> there is a published way to power the Pi - it's on the foundation website - you should look at that circuit.
[20:01] <gordonDrogon> on-resistance of the diode - oh, it was dropping 0.1v?
[20:02] <gordonDrogon> which is actually the same in this case (P=IV or P=I^2R)
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[20:04] <TheNik> I see. I was calculating something on the order of 2 watts
[20:05] <TheNik> It is obviously wrong, now that I see your numbers.
[20:05] <TheNik> Not sure how I got 2 watts.
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[20:09] <gordonDrogon> and realistically the Pi will idle at under an amp anyway.
[20:09] <TheNik> The Pi Zero?
[20:09] <gordonDrogon> oh, it's a zero - much less then.
[20:10] <TheNik> I found smaller numbers on the web, and you scared me just now, haha
[20:10] <gordonDrogon> unlike the hefty schottky diodes I have for my solar array..
[20:10] <TheNik> I'm afraid that's the only document on raspi power supply I found, and there are no schematics: https://www.raspberrypi.org/documentation/hardware/raspberrypi/power/README.md
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[20:11] <TheNik> The only document on raspberrypi.org, that is
[20:11] <gordonDrogon> there used to be a schematic...
[20:12] <gordonDrogon> https://www.raspberrypi.org/documentation/hardware/raspberrypi/schematics/README.md
[20:12] <mfa298> There used to be something else about powering the Pi as part of the HAT specs, I'm not sure if that was on the site or github
[20:13] <gordonDrogon> yes, that page just has the boards (well bits of them including power in).
[20:14] <gordonDrogon> I'm sure I recall a suggested power input circuit for the gpio side ...
[20:14] <TheNik> They seem to wire the USB 5v directly to the Pi 5v rail?
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[20:14] <mfa298> I think the HAT spec stuff included some circuit based on powering via GPIO but doing it in a safe way incase the pi was powered via the microusb and gpio (via a hat)
[20:15] <norwood67> hey. is there a python library people use to simulate gpio so they can develop on a pc or mac?
[20:16] <TheNik> gordonDrogon, found nothing here either: http://web.archive.org/web/20170715000000*/https://www.raspberrypi.org/documentation/hardware/raspberrypi/power/README.md
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[20:16] <gordonDrogon> TheNik, one thing to check is your voltage regulator - see what it's datasheet says about being reverse biased. you might find it's actually ok, or not ...
[20:17] <TheNik> I found out empirically that it is not :D
[20:17] <gordonDrogon> ah. lost it's magic smoke then ...
[20:17] <gordonDrogon> :)
[20:17] <TheNik> Basically, yes
[20:17] <gordonDrogon> stick a diode in then - a cheap solution to start with,
[20:18] <TheNik> It sinks any reverse current to "discharge any capacitors in the load", which, unfortunately I found out only when it was warm enough to burn my finger at the slightest touch
[20:18] <TheNik> I have not even tested that exact unit ever since, but I have no doubts that it failed
[20:19] <gordonDrogon> weird. I've never given any thought to that when making little PSUs as we used to do back then - transformer, bridge rectifier, cap, 7809, cap, device ...
[20:20] <TheNik> It's a Pololu S9V11F5 for reference. S7V5F5 was the originally failed one, but the two are similar in that regard
[20:21] <TheNik> s/S7V5F5/D24V5F5/
[20:21] <gordonDrogon> ok. little buck/boost unit.
[20:21] <TheNik> (Note to self: Do not try to remember part numbers)
[20:22] <gordonDrogon> it also says it can get hot enough to burn ...
[20:22] <TheNik> In any case, backfeed went miserably. I will use a diode, I must have over-estimated the heat it would generate.
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[20:23] <TheNik> I measured 0.16 V forward drop on it with my multimeter, but I suppose that's at very small currents. Might get up to 0.3 V maybe. Hopefully that does not cause serious problems.
[20:24] <TheNik> I shall check that buck power supply that I suppose has failed, but TBH I just replaced it without a second thought
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[20:25] <TheNik> It was very extremely hot. I felt the warmth on a soldered wire a few cm away (it was a thin wire), and was stupid enough to touch it, even if just very lightly. It left marks correspondimg to the components on my finger for a few weeks
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[20:27] <stiv> norwood67, I brewed up a simple gpio emulator awhile back. i don't have access to that machine right at the moment. but making one is not complicated if you know a bit of python.
[20:28] <norwood67> yeah, i know enough python to be dangerous
[20:28] <TheNik> So, the Pi is specified to work at down to 4.75v, but what is the absolute minimum I can consider reliable? Just in case the diode drops more voltage than anticipated.
[20:30] <TheNik> Does https://www.raspberrypi.org/forums/viewtopic.php?t=144267 make sense?
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[20:31] <stiv> TheNik, you should be good down to at least 4.749998 V
[20:31] <TheNik> Whoah, thank you. :P
[20:32] <gordonDrogon> norwood67, you can plug in a Pi Zero to a PC via USB and download code into it then access it's gpio from the PC - it's something the foundation did but I don't have the details.
[20:32] <norwood67> oh. let me check
[20:33] <stiv> a PDP-8 pi emulator would be the ultimate in coolness
[20:33] <norwood67> https://www.raspberrypi.org/blog/gpio-expander/
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[20:34] <TheNik> http://www.raspberry-projects.com/pi/pi-hardware/raspberry-pi-zero/raspberry-pi-zero-hardware-general-specifications this seems to ease my concerns
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[20:37] <norwood67> requires using gpiozero
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[20:44] <gordonDrogon> stiv, do you mean a Pi emulating a pdp-8, or a pdp-8 emulating a Pi?
[20:44] <TheNik> Okay, thank you for the advice, people
[20:45] <nicolas17> raspi1 with raspbian, how do I make it use a static IP address?
[20:46] <nicolas17> my /etc/network/interface had "iface eth0 inet manual" so I don't know what the heck was configuring the network interface before
[20:46] <nicolas17> NetworkManager is supposed to not touch interfaces mentioned in /etc/network/interfaces
[20:46] <gordonDrogon> stiv, https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qFt_9LsAgso is a Pi Zero based pdp-8 emulator on-top of a real pdp-8.
[20:46] <stiv> gordonDrogon, heh. both together would be recursively cool. It's emulators all the way down!
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[20:47] <mfa298> nicolas17: the standard is some config in the dhcpcd5 config (it's not using networkmanager)
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[20:47] <nicolas17> I tried "iface eth0 inet static", rebooted, and now my interface has two IPs (the static one and the one it got from DHCP)
[20:48] <mfa298> maybe try reading the comments in the file you edited!
[20:49] <nicolas17> it doesn't have any
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[20:49] <gordonDrogon> stiv, check the PiDP8 project. I have a couple (and a real pdp-8).
[20:49] <gordonDrogon> back later...
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[20:49] <mfa298> nicolas17: for the last several years by default /e/n/interfaces has had this in the comments
[20:50] <mfa298> # Please note that this file is written to be used with dhcpcd
[20:50] <mfa298> # For static IP, consult /etc/dhcpcd.conf and 'man dhcpcd.conf'
[20:51] <nicolas17> ah interesting, so mine lost the comments somehow :p
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[21:20] <Smeef> Upgrading from a 285mAh Li-Po to a 450mAh Li-Po more than doubled my Pi Zero W uptime from ~50 mins to 2 hours.
[21:21] <Smeef> Using a Powerboost 1000C
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[22:10] <mlelstv> looks like the 285mAh were a more theoretical value
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[22:28] <echoSMILE> the raspberrypi board without any sd card inserted show any thing at hdmi?
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[22:30] <friendofafriend> echoSMILE: It depends. You can run a Raspberry Pi without an SD card.
[22:30] <echoSMILE> friendofafriend, pxe?
[22:30] <echoSMILE> usb?
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[22:33] <friendofafriend> Yes, you can boot the Raspi 3B+ by PXE with no SD card, and the Pi Zero by USB.
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[22:34] <friendofafriend> So if you want to make your Pi output to HDMI without an SD card, there is a way.
[22:35] <friendofafriend> But otherwise, you will not see anything from the HDMI port.
[22:36] <gordonDrogon> Smeef, I get about 7 hours on a Pi 0W from a 2200mAh and a 1000c unit - the Pi is running a lot of multiplexed LEDs (see the Pidp-8 youtube video I posted above)
[22:36] <echoSMILE> well, my question was more to know if appear anything from hdmi, like boot chars or something
[22:37] <echoSMILE> gordonDrogon, link?
[22:37] <gordonDrogon> stiv, https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qFt_9LsAgso is a Pi Zero based pdp-8 emulator on-top of a real pdp-8.
[22:37] <gordonDrogon> ah, didn't mean to ping stiv there :)
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[22:43] <stiv> not a problem! a pdp-8 emulator + a real pdp-8 deserves repeated mention
[22:43] <gordonDrogon> https://lion.drogon.net/IMG_20180128_095121.jpg <-- real pdp8
[22:44] <gordonDrogon> using a Pi as a teminal...
[22:46] <stiv> makes me all warm and nostalgic for The Olden Days when computers had switches on the front
[22:46] <gordonDrogon> yea, that's a pdp-8a - less switches more keypad, but it's all I have "for real" ..
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[23:14] <Smeef> gordonDrogon, is this what they call vintage porn?
[23:15] <Error451> I thought that was ASCII
[23:15] <Error451> https://error451.eu/alizee
[23:15] <gordonDrogon> well...
[23:16] <Error451> https://error451.eu/alizeeascii
[23:16] <Error451> ^
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[23:17] <gordonDrogon> Smeef, actually, core memory might be a better target for that... (that pdp-8 has 16KW core)
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[23:28] <Smeef> gordonDrogon, 16KW?
[23:28] <Smeef> As in Kilo-Watt?
[23:28] <gordonDrogon> kilo words - the pdp-8 is a 12-bit machine.
[23:29] <Smeef> Ah
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