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IRC Log for 2018-10-19

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[0:07] <TheNik> Can I safely disable raspi-config.service?
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[0:17] <ferdinand> Yes, but why?
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[0:44] <TheNik> Removing stuff to shorten my boot time.
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[0:51] <ferdinand> Okay, then it might be counterproductive. It is safe to disable, but do take a minute to read what it does, you can remove the timeout if it bothers you.
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[1:30] <noregret> any idea why "Unable to handle kernel NULL pointer dereference at virtual address" - http://termbin.com/j9oc ?
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[1:33] <johnjay> how do i get /opt stuff like hello triangle and big bunny on ubuntu-mate?
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[1:38] <ferdinand> noregret: It look like a kernel bug, you could run an update to see if it happens in a more recent kernel version
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[1:48] <ferdinand> johnjay: That part is not completely open source, but you can find the open part here https://github.com/raspberrypi/userland
[1:48] <ferdinand> https://wiki.ubuntu.com/ARM/RaspberryPi#Optional_PPAs
[1:51] <johnjay> ok thx
[1:54] <johnjay> it says raspi 2, but it works for 3?
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[1:56] <ferdinand> Yes, unless you're using aarch64
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[3:37] <johnjay> hmmm
[3:37] <johnjay> i wonder if there's a place to check online for ubuntu-mate packages for arm
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[6:54] <Phaz> hi trying to get airsonic it to work and on first connection it is endlessly trying to connect, i am doing the tomcat method
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[7:07] <uriahheep> friendofafriend: hey
[7:08] <Phaz> hi
[7:09] <uriahheep> hi
[7:10] <uriahheep> so quiet until the Europeans wake up isn't it
[7:11] <uriahheep> Phaz: so what's your favourite personal project that you've used a pi for?
[7:12] <Phaz> mmm not sure, havent done too much of anything yet, just using mine as a server atm
[7:12] <Phaz> trying to get airsonic to work and it just dont go down :(
[7:12] <uriahheep> ah ok
[7:12] <Phaz> what about you?
[7:13] <uriahheep> Phaz: I'm curious, why a java program running on a pi?
[7:14] <uriahheep> Phaz: oh, well, I'm most impressed personally by my current project... it's almost the first time I've managed to get adequate results
[7:14] <Phaz> i mean, im not a huge fan of it being java, but i hear its really nice and ive been wanting to do an audio server going for a while now
[7:14] <uriahheep> hmm ok
[7:15] <Phaz> i heard good things about this one from friends, so i thought i'd give it a go
[7:15] <Phaz> btw, how is docker on arch arm
[7:15] <uriahheep> are you on raspbian?
[7:15] <Phaz> no, arch arm
[7:15] <uriahheep> I don't use arch
[7:15] <Phaz> thats understandable
[7:15] <Phaz> it can be a pain
[7:15] <uriahheep> :)
[7:15] <uriahheep> gentoo is much more of a pain
[7:15] <Phaz> personally, i dont think it has anything to do with me using arch tbh
[7:16] <uriahheep> I use that though
[7:16] <Phaz> true
[7:16] <Phaz> i'd try gentoo one day
[7:16] <uriahheep> cool
[7:16] <Phaz> just dont have a spare drive for it :(
[7:16] <uriahheep> well you'll have a chance to soon if you want, sort of
[7:16] <Phaz> yeah
[7:17] <uriahheep> I'm about to make a gentoo binary beta release
[7:17] <Phaz> i hope to build my first computer for my birthday this dec, so ~~maybe for the meme ill do gentoo~~
[7:17] <uriahheep> for my project
[7:17] <Phaz> nice
[7:17] <Phaz> whats ur project
[7:18] <uriahheep> rtl-sdr stuff, but I'm getting opencl enabled for offloading some parts of gnuradio
[7:18] <Phaz> ah alright, thats cool
[7:18] <uriahheep> which means the install will also be useful for other opencl experiments
[7:19] <uriahheep> it's a bit bloated though... ~220MB
[7:19] <uriahheep> I still have yet to prune some of the unnecessary files
[7:20] <Phaz> lol, coming from someone who uses fedora/kde spin and windows 10 thats not bloat
[7:20] <Phaz> guess im just used to bloat t b h
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[7:23] <Phaz> y'know i think it might be tomcat
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[7:26] <uriahheep> well
[7:26] <uriahheep> it's bloated for something that just lives in RAM
[7:27] <uriahheep> on a 1GB RAM device
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[7:34] <Smeef> uriahheep, Will you be using a dongle, or something more sophisticated like a HackRF One?
[7:34] <Smeef> For the SDR stuff
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[7:38] <Smeef> I've got an OLED hooked up to my Pi, and AFAIK, these cheap and tiny OLEDs are typically just black and white/on and off, there isn't any brightness setting, but I just added a script to flash the activity LED when I hold down a button to initiate a safe shutdown, and instead of flashing the activity LED, it's flashing the OLED, making it brighter than it normally is, then normal dim again
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[7:40] <Smeef> Crap
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[7:41] <DSdavidDS> Hi friends
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[7:41] <PhazonicRidley> am back
[7:41] <DSdavidDS> has anyone here used the rpi0 with g_serial and windows?
[7:41] * PhazonicRidley is now known as Phaz
[7:41] <Phaz> i havent
[7:42] <DSdavidDS> I am having trouble seeing serial over putty on my windwos machine
[7:42] <uriahheep> Smeef: an rtl-sdr v3
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[7:43] <DSdavidDS> I am also concerned how little documentation there is concerning serial and rpi
[7:43] <Smeef> uriahheep, you mean the software?
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[7:43] <DSdavidDS> this was the most informative https://raspberrypi.stackexchange.com/questions/67907/debugging-usb-otg-serial-on-the-pi-zero-w
[7:45] <uriahheep> Smeef: no the kit from amazon that the rtl-sdr.com site promotes
[7:45] <Smeef> Ah
[7:46] <uriahheep> it works for testing
[7:46] <Smeef> I think I have that same one
[7:46] <uriahheep> cool
[7:46] <uriahheep> and a pi3b?
[7:46] <Smeef> I mounted it inside my PC case with a USB hub, lol
[7:46] <uriahheep> I can't afford a 3b+
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[7:47] <uriahheep> ah cool
[7:47] <Smeef> I tried it with a Pi, but couldn't get it to work, and left the project by the wayside after I put it in my PC
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[7:48] <Smeef> The furthest I got was getting FreqShow to display a graphical spectrum, but no audio or anything
[7:49] <Smeef> SDRSharp works really nicely on Windows, though, lol
[7:50] <johnjay> Smeef: what does it do inside your pc case?
[7:50] <johnjay> play radio??
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[7:51] <Smeef> johnjay, more or less, it basically a 500KHz to 1.7GHz tuner
[7:51] <Smeef> it's*
[7:51] <DSdavidDS> ugh, im so frustrated T.T
[7:52] <DSdavidDS> no one seems to know how to serial into a pi0 on windows
[7:52] <Smeef> Anything within those frequencies will get picket up depending on signal strength and the antenna
[7:52] <Smeef> picked*
[7:53] <johnjay> Smeef: right, but like do you need software on the PC or does it just recognize it as a sound device?
[7:53] * mlelstv never heard the idiom 'to serial into'.
[7:53] <Smeef> johnjay, it needs some special software and drivers, nothing that someone who would buy an SDR dongle isn't capable of figuring out, lol
[7:54] <johnjay> right
[7:54] <johnjay> i'm just a noob trying to get an idea of what exactly the SDR does
[7:54] <Smeef> SDRSharp is the software I use
[7:54] <johnjay> i've heard the term thrown around a lot
[7:54] <johnjay> it uses software for traditionally hardware stuff?
[7:55] <DSdavidDS> if anyone knows how to use serial over USB on the rpi0, PLEASE PLEASE let me know. Send me a PM over reddit
[7:56] <Smeef> Depending on the SDR hardware you're using, you can use it to tap into FAA transmissions and track airplanes in real-time, you can tune into numbers stations, you can listen to police comms (probably illegal without a license), listen to radio, etc.
[7:56] <mlelstv> david, you want to talk to the rpi0 console or do you want to use the rpi0 as a gadget appearing as a serial port?
[7:56] <DSdavidDS> the former
[7:56] <DSdavidDS> er...
[7:56] <DSdavidDS> latter
[7:56] <DSdavidDS> gadget appearing as a serial port
[7:56] <Smeef> The expensive hardware allows for transmitting as well
[7:56] <DSdavidDS> I want to access the serial terminal from my windows machine
[7:57] <mlelstv> ?
[7:57] <DSdavidDS> I certainly see the serial port. I just can't log on through it.
[7:58] <mlelstv> so the rpi should allow login on that simulated serial port ?
[7:58] <Smeef> DSdavidDS, did you enable serial by running sudo raspi-config and going into interfacing options?
[7:58] <DSdavidDS> yes I have done that
[7:58] <mlelstv> he said, he did not want the console.
[7:58] <Smeef> I'm assuming you're using Raspbian
[7:58] <DSdavidDS> yes I am
[7:59] <mlelstv> someone here is confused :)
[7:59] <Smeef> Wait, I'm confused
[7:59] <Smeef> lol
[7:59] <DSdavidDS> how can I clarify?
[7:59] <DSdavidDS> let me put this simply: I want to log onto my pi through serial on my windows machine the same way I ssh into it
[7:59] <Smeef> Are you referring to gadget mode?
[8:00] <DSdavidDS> g_serial. gadget mode, correct
[8:00] <mlelstv> the rpi then should also see a serial port.
[8:01] <DSdavidDS> agreed
[8:01] <DSdavidDS> wait..
[8:01] <DSdavidDS> how can I check that?
[8:01] <Smeef> Did this not work? https://learn.adafruit.com/turning-your-raspberry-pi-zero-into-a-usb-gadget/serial-gadget
[8:02] <DSdavidDS> nope
[8:02] <DSdavidDS> dmesg: [ 0.461993] 20201000.serial: ttyAMA0 at MMIO 0x20201000 (irq = 81, base_baud = 0) is a PL011 rev2
[8:02] <mlelstv> there should be something like /dev/ttyGS0
[8:02] <mlelstv> AMA0 is a real serial port. You said, you didn't want to use that :)
[8:02] <DSdavidDS> Smeef: that method only works through GPIO I believe
[8:03] <DSdavidDS> isn't GS0 used for GPIO?
[8:03] <mlelstv> AMA0 is through GPIO.
[8:04] <DSdavidDS> would you mind walking me through how I can set this up properly?
[8:04] <Smeef> The only time I've ever put a Pi Zero into gadget mode was by soldering a USB port to the pads underneath and plugging it into my PC, after using that Adafruit guide, or one like it, it's been a while
[8:04] <DSdavidDS> why solder a usb port when you can just use a cable? :3
[8:05] <DSdavidDS> I've done the same thing to use it with g_ether
[8:05] <Smeef> I was trying to make a smart storage device
[8:05] <mlelstv> the example on adafruit uses the serial console (AMA0) so that you can talk to the RPI to set everything up.
[8:05] <DSdavidDS> right
[8:06] <DSdavidDS> any examples using GS0?
[8:06] <DSdavidDS> assuming that means gadget mode?
[8:06] <mlelstv> yes, ttyGS0 is the serial port simulated by g_serial
[8:07] <mlelstv> and the example on adafruit describes how to set up such a port and use it to login
[8:07] <mlelstv> how do you ssh to the rpi0 ?
[8:07] <DSdavidDS> putty / cmd
[8:07] <DSdavidDS> I have run 'sudo systemctl is-active getty@ttyGS0.service'
[8:08] <mlelstv> that has little to do with ssh
[8:08] <DSdavidDS> erm 'sudo systemctl enable getty@ttyGS0.service'
[8:08] <mlelstv> ttyGS0 has nothing to do with ssh
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[8:08] <mlelstv> ssh is through network.
[8:08] <DSdavidDS> im not trying to ssh ._.
[8:08] <mlelstv> did you set up g_ether ?
[8:08] <DSdavidDS> I set up g_ether and g_serial
[8:08] <DSdavidDS> or I can do g_cdc
[8:09] <DSdavidDS> my intent is to connect to this device with serial and not ethernet
[8:09] <mlelstv> yes, but for setting up you need to talk to it. Somehow.
[8:09] <DSdavidDS> right
[8:09] <DSdavidDS> I can 'sudo systemctl enable getty@ttyGS0.service' over ssh
[8:09] <DSdavidDS> ran*
[8:09] <mlelstv> easiest to use the console, but you need the USB serial cable for that.
[8:10] <mlelstv> yes, getty@ttyGS0.service is what makes a login session on that tty.
[8:10] <DSdavidDS> and this is a service I have to run on boot?
[8:10] <mlelstv> so, assuming that g_serial already works, you should see a login prompt
[8:10] <mlelstv> yes, run at boot.
[8:10] <DSdavidDS> right
[8:10] <mlelstv> but 'enable' already says that you want that
[8:11] <DSdavidDS> I dont see a login prompt on putty (COM1)
[8:11] <mlelstv> 'enable' means 'enable to run at boot'
[8:11] <mlelstv> did you also 'start' it ?
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[8:11] <uriahheep> Smeef: I've got some stuff running decent already, the opencl stuff is extra work
[8:11] <DSdavidDS> yes
[8:11] <DSdavidDS> 'sudo systemctl start getty@ttyGS0.service'?
[8:11] <mlelstv> are you sure that COM1 is correct?
[8:12] <mlelstv> COM1 is usually a physical serial port on the windows machine
[8:12] <DSdavidDS> that's the only port I see on my windows machine
[8:13] <DSdavidDS> perhaps my windows machine isn't finding the port properly?
[8:13] <mlelstv> you need a driver.
[8:13] <DSdavidDS> I need a driver for serial? ._.
[8:13] <DSdavidDS> geez
[8:13] <mlelstv> it's not serial :)
[8:14] <mlelstv> it's something that tries to look like serial
[8:14] <DSdavidDS> "universal serial bus" T.T
[8:14] <DSdavidDS> some otg driver?
[8:15] <DSdavidDS> are you going to tell me what it is?
[8:15] <mlelstv> I don't know what it is... searching.
[8:16] <DSdavidDS> I dont see any unknown devices on my device manager
[8:16] <mlelstv> but you do see the rpi0 ?
[8:17] <DSdavidDS> I see the ethernet device
[8:17] <DSdavidDS> but nothing related to serial
[8:18] <mlelstv> no idea if you can have both at the same time.
[8:18] <DSdavidDS> hmm
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[8:19] <DSdavidDS> ill try rebooting with g_ether disabled
[8:19] <DSdavidDS> but tbh I dont see why it wouldnt work
[8:19] <DSdavidDS> nope. no luck
[8:20] <DSdavidDS> oh wait
[8:20] <DSdavidDS> I see a COM5 now
[8:20] <mlelstv> aha!
[8:20] <DSdavidDS> oh snap
[8:20] <DSdavidDS> IT WORKS
[8:21] <mlelstv> :)
[8:21] <DSdavidDS> <3
[8:21] <mlelstv> there is a g_multi that should allow to have multiple gadgets concurrently. Never tried.
[8:21] <DSdavidDS> it doesn't show the boot messages however
[8:21] <mlelstv> of course
[8:22] <mlelstv> the boot messages go to the console.
[8:22] <DSdavidDS> ah right. that makes sense I guess
[8:22] <DSdavidDS> since there is no separate bootloader mcu
[8:22] <mlelstv> the port you have only runs getty, i.e. a login session.
[8:22] <mlelstv> like old time-sharing systems 30 years ago.
[8:22] <DSdavidDS> oh srs?
[8:23] <DSdavidDS> the system I am familiar with was developed in house by the company I work with. I guess I am spoiled by that
[8:23] <DSdavidDS> ill give g_cdc a try
[8:23] <mlelstv> rpi0 mainframe :)
[8:23] <DSdavidDS> ahhh, this is nice
[8:24] <DSdavidDS> now I can access my pi through any computer
[8:24] <DSdavidDS> withOUT the need for changes to network
[8:24] <mlelstv> but slowly
[8:24] <DSdavidDS> yeah, I dont really need to worry about network
[8:24] <DSdavidDS> and if I do want network, ill swap to g_ether
[8:25] <mlelstv> but now you can learn about 'kermit' to transfer files
[8:25] <DSdavidDS> you were a great help, thank you for being patient with me
[8:25] <DSdavidDS> is kermit like xyzmodem?
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[8:25] <mlelstv> yes, but a bit smarter and pretty universal.
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[8:27] <DSdavidDS> hmm, cdc was a bad idea
[8:28] <DSdavidDS> ethernet doesnt work and a "CDC Composite Device" appeared on my device manager
[8:29] <DSdavidDS> I guess I need a separate driver for windows if I want to use g_cdc
[8:29] <mlelstv> probably
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[8:30] <mlelstv> cdc can appear as many devices, network, serial, mass storage.
[8:30] <DSdavidDS> there are zero tutorials that even suggest using cdc
[8:30] <DSdavidDS> I suppose it works better if I use it work a linux machine
[8:30] <mlelstv> but there should be a usbser.sys in win10 that handles CDC
[8:31] <DSdavidDS> https://docs.microsoft.com/en-us/windows-hardware/drivers/usbcon/usb-driver-installation-based-on-compatible-ids
[8:31] <mlelstv> also in win8.1
[8:31] <DSdavidDS> gotcha
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[8:31] <DSdavidDS> meh, I dont want to touch the registry. I'll just switch between g_ether and g_serial
[8:33] <mlelstv> at some point you probably want to use the console anyway.
[8:33] <DSdavidDS> agreed
[8:34] <DSdavidDS> I like having control over the device
[8:34] <DSdavidDS> which is why I wanted serial access
[8:34] <mlelstv> well, so far it's just virtual serial access :)
[8:34] <DSdavidDS> true
[8:34] <DSdavidDS> good enough for me
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[8:36] <DSdavidDS> if I wanted to have "true" serial, I just enable it through raspi-config and connect through GPIO right?
[8:36] <mlelstv> yes
[8:36] <DSdavidDS> mk
[8:36] <mlelstv> https://www.adafruit.com/product/954
[8:36] <mlelstv> with something like that
[8:36] <DSdavidDS> I didn't want to do that since I would need to buy that cable
[8:37] <mlelstv> $9.95 ? :)
[8:37] <DSdavidDS> can't make it with my own wires because 5v usb :(
[8:37] <DSdavidDS> haha
[8:37] <DSdavidDS> ik im being cheap
[8:37] <mlelstv> oh, it's not just wires
[8:37] <DSdavidDS> yeah ik. logic levels are different
[8:37] <mlelstv> usb is something completely different.
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[8:40] <mlelstv> there is a rather complex micro-controller in between.
[8:40] <DSdavidDS> oh?
[8:40] <mlelstv> if you would connect your PC serial port (RS232) to the RPI (3.3V TTL), then it's just logic levels.
[8:41] <DSdavidDS> what happens?
[8:41] <mlelstv> happens where?
[8:42] <DSdavidDS> you said the mcu does something complex?
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[8:42] <mlelstv> yes, one side it talks the USB protocol, the other it simulates a serial port.
[8:43] <mlelstv> do you have any idea how USB works? :)
[8:43] <DSdavidDS> ah that's what you mean
[8:44] <DSdavidDS> well thank you so much for the help!
[8:45] <mlelstv> you're welcome. Have fun.
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[11:09] <konsolebox> Gentoo in Pi > *
[11:10] <gordonDrogon> qustion, statement, or just a passing comment?
[11:10] <konsolebox> It's an expression.
[11:11] <gordonDrogon> so, Gentoo is greater than star. Interesting concept :)
[11:11] <konsolebox> ;)
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[11:27] <uriahheep> :)
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[13:04] <iodev_otg> it's here, it's finally here
[13:04] <iodev_otg> my new Pi
[13:04] <iodev_otg> ;D
[13:05] <gordonDrogon> don't blow it up ...
[13:05] <iodev_otg> won't
[13:05] <modano> what do you plan to do with it? :)
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[13:05] <iodev_otg> I received it amazingly intact, even the edges on the package are straight
[13:05] <iodev_otg> UPS didn't drop/hit this one :D
[13:06] <gordonDrogon> why is this a surprise? do you live somewhere with a really bad postal service?
[13:06] <iodev_otg> gordonDrogon: let's just say, from China to Bucharest, goes like this 3 days from China to Bucharest (via PostNL) and 14 days Bucharest-Bucharest
[13:06] <gordonDrogon> ah. ups. currently waiting on a package being delivered via them myself ... "delivery estimate: by the end of the day" ..
[13:06] <iodev_otg> same, I had that too
[13:07] <iodev_otg> but I told pimoroni to tell them to "please deliver before 5 PM"
[13:07] <gordonDrogon> pimoroni ship from china?
[13:07] <iodev_otg> so I wouldn't have to stay 2 extra hours at work just to get my package ... no Pimoroni ships from UK
[13:07] <iodev_otg> I said from China, because I didn't order any package via Romanian Post from Pimoroni
[13:07] <gordonDrogon> that's what I thought (I live in the UK)
[13:08] <iodev_otg> but I ordered the Sunfounder kit from China and that took 24 days, due to our bad post
[13:08] <gordonDrogon> ok
[13:08] <iodev_otg> you see, the Romanian post is the ONLY post in Europe without an automated sorting system
[13:09] <iodev_otg> plus, they lost my Yubikey 4, that was it! the last straw, from then I went UPS only
[13:10] <iodev_otg> anyway, I'm glad I got my Pi from Pimoroni (it's the only place I can get a Pibow)
[13:10] <gordonDrogon> I'[m no that trusting of ups - they've double changed my wife on import duty in the past - ie. she paid online then the drive insisted on payment - that happened more than once and while it was sorted out, it took weeks )-:
[13:10] <iodev_otg> gordonDrogon: do you happen to have the Hyperpixel 4.0?
[13:11] <gordonDrogon> the pibows are nice.
[13:11] <gordonDrogon> I don't have that.
[13:11] <iodev_otg> yes, import fees are 100$ here
[13:11] <iodev_otg> I buy only from Europe to avoid high tax
[13:11] <gordonDrogon> so much for europe ...
[13:11] <gordonDrogon> oh, is romania part of the EU?
[13:11] <iodev_otg> YEP :D
[13:12] <gordonDrogon> so shouldn't have any import fees from the UK - not until brexit anyway..
[13:12] <iodev_otg> none
[13:12] <iodev_otg> had none, got delivered in 24 hours
[13:12] <iodev_otg> (UPS Express Worldwide Saver)
[13:13] <gordonDrogon> that's good. I placed an order at about 4pm last night with farnell and will get it today, but I'm in the same country...
[13:13] <iodev_otg> isn't farnell only for companies?
[13:13] <iodev_otg> or do they ship to persons only in UK?
[13:14] <gordonDrogon> both, but I'm a company.
[13:14] <iodev_otg> good for you
[13:14] <iodev_otg> you got no VAT
[13:14] <gordonDrogon> that's not true.
[13:15] <iodev_otg> if you buy a PI for yourself can't you use your VAT ID and buy on your company's name
[13:15] <gordonDrogon> my company is of the form: Sole Trader. It's not Ltd.
[13:15] <iodev_otg> ahh
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[13:15] <iodev_otg> I'm not familiar with UK Law
[13:15] <BurtyB> farnell like punt for "personal use" to CPC tho
[13:16] <gordonDrogon> sole traders can be VAT registered, and I was for a good number of years, but closed the VAT stuff down a couple of years back.
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[13:16] * BurtyB is sole trader with vat but it's a pita heh
[13:16] <gordonDrogon> yea, it was a pita - and I got investigated once too )-:
[13:16] <iodev_otg> in Romania every company, PFA(authorized person)/II(one-person-company)/SRL(Ltd) is exempt from VAT, gordonDrogon
[13:16] <BurtyB> awe
[13:17] <gordonDrogon> here you don't have to register for vat unless your annual turn-over is over a set limit - �86K or something now.
[13:17] <iodev_otg> here you are automatically registered for VAT for free
[13:17] <iodev_otg> and I think registering an IT company is now free
[13:17] <gordonDrogon> still - at the start of the investigation I was asked how much I thought I owed - I said actually, I think you owe me about �10K - and by the end of the day they did. which was nice.
[13:18] <iodev_otg> :D
[13:18] <iodev_otg> you mistake was no registering your company in Panama :D
[13:18] <iodev_otg> *not
[13:19] <gordonDrogon> haha..
[13:19] <BurtyB> and then getting another company to loan your money back to you at 0%
[13:19] <iodev_otg> gordonDrogon: so what services/products does your company offer?
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[13:20] <gordonDrogon> iodev_otg, right now ... mostly bakery products.
[13:21] <iodev_otg> gordonDrogon: pretzels :D
[13:21] <gordonDrogon> mixed in with the odd bit of small-scale automation/robotics projects and some othe stuff like that.
[13:21] <gordonDrogon> no call for pretzels here.
[13:22] <gordonDrogon> and the thought of eating something that's been dipped in caustic soda doesn't appeal to me..
[13:22] <mpmc> gordonDrogon: Free cakes for everyone in here? xD
[13:22] * mpmc laughs
[13:23] <gordonDrogon> https://projects.drogon.net/raspberry-pi-controlled-oven/
[13:23] <gordonDrogon> combining both...
[13:23] <mpmc> gordonDrogon: I love bread!
[13:24] <gordonDrogon> I made some 60 sourdough loaves this morning.
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[13:26] <mpmc> :o
[13:29] <mlelstv> it's also called baking soda for a reason
[13:30] <gordonDrogon> sodium hydroxide (aka caustic soda or Lye) IS NOT Baking soda.
[13:30] <gordonDrogon> you are probably thinking of bicarbonate of soda (Sodium Bicarbonate)
[13:30] <mlelstv> I'm thinking of the stuff that is used to make pretzels :)
[13:30] <modano> #raspberrypi is ready for the weekend
[13:31] <gordonDrogon> That's traditionally caustic soda/lye/sodium hydroxide
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[13:31] <gordonDrogon> although they can be made with bicarb, the shine isn't as good.
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[13:49] <ferdinand> Nice, didn't know that. Don't they neutralise the lye afterwards then?
[13:50] <iodev_otg> 1h 10 minutes and I go Home!!!!!!!!!!
[13:51] <iodev_otg> To turn my Pi into a ZNC server
[13:51] <iodev_otg> and from then I'll no longer be iodev_otg (on the go), but iodev (standard)
[13:51] <iodev_otg> 24/7 here
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[14:05] <modano> <3
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[14:07] <gordonDrogon> ferdinand, not that I've seen - dip - onto tray, then bake. it is a weak solution, however it just doesn't seem right to me. Like celery.
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[14:18] <ferdinand> I've made soap before, and you can do a ph test with lithmus paper to see if your soap is done saponifying, but there's also the method of using your tongue, haha.
[14:19] <gordonDrogon> yea, see if your tongue goes slimey ...
[14:21] <Lartza> saponify almost sounds like soapify
[14:21] <Lartza> but til is not a typo
[14:22] <Lartza> also in Finland it actually is "soapify" it seems
[14:25] <ferdinand> sapon is the french word for soap, if that makes sense
[14:27] <Lartza> yeah the finnish word is saippua, and saippuoiminen or saponifikaatio is the verb, but the former is the more common one
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[14:42] <ferdinand> Finnish seems like a nice language, but it scores about 0.5 stars for ease of learning as a european language. :p
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[14:44] <Khaytsus> ferdinand: Just roll a bowling ball back and forth over your keyboard for easy finnish input
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[16:51] <Error451> after some research, I decided I want a 3B+ with a HiFiBerry HAT
[16:52] <Error451> but where would I get a nice case for that ?
[16:56] <Fulgen> define "nice"
[16:56] <Fulgen> you can print yourself one out e.g.
[16:56] <Error451> I would have a friend do that
[16:56] <Error451> but yeah
[16:56] <Lartza> Error451, From hifiberry?
[16:56] <Error451> I have a 3b+ running my site
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[16:57] <Error451> but I seen pics of the hifiberry and I don't think it'd fit
[16:57] <Error451> but I'm not looking for eyecandy
[16:57] <Error451> just a decent enclosure
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[16:58] <Error451> Lartza , maybe
[16:58] <Lartza> Maybe? :P
[16:58] <Error451> I thought I'd throw the Q. in here because I tend to get lost in details when I search
[17:01] <Error451> nice cases
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[17:01] <Error451> thx Lartza
[17:02] <Error451> like I said, I would have gotten lost in details and TBH I didn't even consider HiFiBerry having their own site
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[17:08] <gordonDrogon> I like the pimoroni coup� cases.
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[17:09] <gordonDrogon> they protect the Pi and let you plug stuff on-top.
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[17:19] <pwillard> A lot of designs assume you only use "what came in the original box".
[17:21] <pwillard> there is also a batch of NEW all metal cases that are absolutely not well suited to a Pi3+ as they restrict airflow allowing the CPU to be 60C in just a couple minutes... and it continues to climb slower after that.
[17:21] <pwillard> I cut a hole in the top of mine and added a 5V fan.
[17:22] <GrandPa-G> I have a python script that does GPIO.add_event_detect(self.sensorGPIO, GPIO.RISING, callback=self.countSensor, bouncetime=self.bounce). When the program starts I get several counts with nothing connected to gpio. What am doing wrong?
[17:23] <Fulgen> GrandPa-G: is the GPIO pin set as input?
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[17:23] <Fulgen> erm, bad question, did you add a pullup / down resistor?
[17:24] <Fulgen> because, turning on your lamp next to the pi can trigger the GPIO pin
[17:24] <GrandPa-G> i am doing GPIO.setup(self.sensorGPIO, GPIO.IN, pull_up_down=GPIO.PUD_DOWN) before. No lamps within 100 feet.
[17:25] <Fulgen> hm, it should work like that
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[17:26] <GrandPa-G> I get 1-3 counted and sometimes none. I have a breadboard extender with a wire going nowhere.
[17:27] <Fulgen> are you sure that the GPIO changes don't originate from the sensor?
[17:27] <gordonDrogon> you can simulate it from the command line with nothing plugged in.
[17:28] <GrandPa-G> there is no sensor, nothing else running. just happens when program starts.
[17:29] <GrandPa-G> is there specific GPIO pins that might be better than others for counting like this?
[17:29] <gordonDrogon> not really.
[17:29] <GrandPa-G> At least I got that part correct.
[17:29] <gordonDrogon> but try this: gpio -g mode $pin down
[17:30] <gordonDrogon> before running your code.
[17:30] <gordonDrogon> (where $pin is the bcm_gpio pin number)
[17:30] <gordonDrogon> if using board pins then use -1 than -g
[17:31] <GrandPa-G> would it make any difference if I did in program vs command line?
[17:31] <gordonDrogon> no, but this is for testing - that's what I wrote the gpio program for - easy testing without writing programs.
[17:32] <GrandPa-G> for me it is 6 of one, 2 3's of another.
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[17:32] <GrandPa-G> gordonDrogon:do you get a royality each time the gpio command is run?????
[17:33] <gordonDrogon> I'm only trying to help, but I'll stop now.
[17:33] <GrandPa-G> gordonDrogon:please don't, I really appreciate your help. That was meant to be funny, if not, I appologize.
[17:35] <gordonDrogon> well, if I did get a royalty then I might have enough to buy .. oh, another Pi zero.
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[17:35] <gordonDrogon> essentially what it looks like is that the pin is floating - no pull-up or pull-down enabled, although I think they all have pulls enabled at power on time. what pin are you using?
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[17:37] <gordonDrogon> just checked. all the usable pins have pull up/downs enabled at power-on time.
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[17:37] <gordonDrogon> however they're fairly weak and wires connected can induce noise.
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[17:39] <GrandPa-G> I am using GPIO 26.
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[17:39] <GrandPa-G> If I have nothing connected, do I just put a small resister between pin and ground?
[17:46] <gordonDrogon> yes.
[17:46] <gordonDrogon> howeve there are internal ones: gpio -g mode 26 down will set it for you, but the internal ones are about 50K. you might want a 10K one.
[17:47] <gordonDrogon> bcm_gpio pin 26 has the pull-down enabled at boot time though.
[17:47] <gordonDrogon> (or should have)
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[17:52] <GrandPa-G> I put a 220 resistor on. afer extensive (5!) tests, so far, so good. At least I know what I am dealing with. It is a small issues, will be counting 100K over hours so 1 off isn't going to make much difference. It just shows up at the wrong time (startup). Thanks.
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[17:54] <gordonDrogon> 220 is really a bit much - your driving sensor will be sinking lot of current into it to get the voltage to a sensible level for the Pi to trigger.
[17:54] <iodev> gordonDrogon: I'm back
[17:55] <iodev> look at my host :-)
[17:55] <iodev> I got the Pi working with Znc, and connected it to PIA
[17:55] <iodev> so that it'd hide my IP while connected to freenode
[17:55] <GrandPa-G> gordonDrogon:when we get a real sensor, we will change that size.
[17:55] <gordonDrogon> GrandPa-G, start with 10K
[17:55] <GrandPa-G> gordonDrogon:so noted
[17:56] <gordonDrogon> iodev, right. can't say hiding is something I've bothered with.
[17:56] <iodev> I just don't want my IP exposed
[17:56] <iodev> anyone can DDOS me then
[17:56] <iodev> but now it says PrivateInternetAccess :D
[17:57] <gordonDrogon> a cloak doesn't really hide you though
[17:58] <iodev> nope
[17:58] <iodev> but the IP is still in Germany :D
[17:58] <iodev> I do not intend to hide from staff, I am doing nothing wrong
[17:58] <gordonDrogon> I think some people worry too much.
[17:58] <iodev> I intend to hide from normal users
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[18:06] <GrandPa-G> iodev:normal users should not be your concern.
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[18:30] <iodev> GrandPa-G: you can't trust everyone :D
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[19:13] <iodev> GrandPa-G: I'm sorry, but you see I'm an ethical hacker and I work in cybersecurity
[19:13] <iodev> I am here to fix the disaster! Security is a mess, people are evil.
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[19:15] <iodev> World war II, World war I killed more people than anything before. Wake up! The world is doomed to end up like 1984! World War III is here. It's in cyber-space
[19:17] <BurtyB> meh
[19:17] <iodev> alright, so I'm a pessimist
[19:18] <iodev> I choose to remain one!
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[20:53] <bazul> hello
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[20:55] <Snert> iodev, LeGoog had tons of data about you. Personally. Ebvery place you have surfed. Every pornvid you every watched.
[20:56] <bazul> eh
[20:56] <bazul> i've watched so much porn there isn't a database on earth capable of holding that data
[20:58] <Snert> porn is a HUGE thing, traffic wise. Porn is huge all the way around.
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[21:09] <Smithe> Why after the update to 4.14.74 my raspberry is so much slow in responding to commands?
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[21:59] <Smokie> hey guys, quick question, tried to run Recovery to reinstall Raspbian, i clicked Raspbian and hit Install.. it tries to Download and extract the filesystem but then it reboots back to the NOOBS OS installation again
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[22:05] <H__> noobs has a recovery system ? why not dd the sd card when you put it in a laptop or something that's not running from it ? should be easier
[22:08] <Smokie> i dont know tbh, after running Raspbian and having issues with the wifi not working, i thought i'd use the "recovery" to install it real quick
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[22:09] <H__> how did you make the initial sd card install ?
[22:09] <Smokie> i didnt actually, it came pre-installed with a discounted bundle that i bought
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[22:12] <H__> ah ok. do you have another computer with sd card slot ?
[22:13] <Smokie> yeah, sure, this laptop does
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[22:17] <H__> and what OS is on there ?
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[22:17] <Smokie> H__, Win10
[22:18] <H__> then download an image from here https://www.raspberrypi.org/downloads/raspbian/ and follow this install guide https://www.raspberrypi.org/documentation/installation/installing-images/README.md
[22:18] <H__> do you want raspbian with our without desktop ?
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[22:21] <Smokie> with a desktop as a start
[22:22] <H__> ok then choose the left image there
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[22:37] <Smokie> thanks H__
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[22:40] <H__> welcome. Did it all work out ?
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[22:43] <Smokie> about to boot it up now
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[22:49] <Smokie> it worked, thanks
[22:49] <Smokie> there is a yellow "lightning" icon that keeps flashing on the top right though
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[22:54] <gordonDrogon> means low voltage.
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[23:00] <Smokie> i assume this means the charger im using is not strong enough?
[23:01] <Smokie> im powering the pi 3B and a 7" touch screen
[23:03] <gordonDrogon> probably.
[23:03] <gordonDrogon> best use a power supply than a charge.r
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[23:20] <Smokie> gotcha
[23:20] <Smokie> it crashes everytime i try to run the browser though heheh
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