#raspberrypi IRC Log

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IRC Log for 2018-10-21

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[0:00] * Encrypt (~Encrypt@2a01cb0401d1720076d02bfffe31b37c.ipv6.abo.wanadoo.fr) Quit (Quit: Quit)
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[0:02] <friendofafriend> Hello there, DaCoolCat.
[0:04] <DaCoolCat> Hi there!
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[0:08] <friendofafriend> Having fun with your Raspberry Pi today?
[0:08] <DaCoolCat> Yes
[0:08] <uriah> I'm not
[0:08] <uriah> need a break
[0:08] <DaCoolCat> And learning about irc
[0:08] <uriah> cool... here be dragons
[0:09] <TheNik> IRC: Immediate Regret Conversations
[0:09] <TheNik> You will have them :P
[0:09] <uriah> heh
[0:09] * TheNik is off for the day
[0:09] <TheNik> See you!
[0:09] <uriah> drama--
[0:10] <uriah> TheNik: enjoy :)
[0:12] <DaCoolCat> I heared that you can make a sizemograph with a raspberry pi and a few other circut boards.
[0:12] <uriah> indeed
[0:12] <DaCoolCat> It's crazy that something that small can even be a weather station!
[0:12] <uriah> loads of stuff can be done with it :)
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[0:16] <DaCoolCat> Hello
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[0:28] <Usernumber7> Hi
[0:28] <Usernumber7> Anyone here?
[0:29] <mlelstv> no, it's just the wind
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[0:34] <Usernumber7> Hi what if I don't have gpio cables yet?can I just use charger cables ?mobile phone charger,while I'm waiting for gpio cables. Peel them off and connect module or it will burn the pi?
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[0:36] <friendofafriend> Usernumber7: I'm unsure what you mean. The wires people use with GPIO are usually "Dupont" wires. I'm not sure how you'd use a mobile phone charger with the GPIO headers.
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[0:41] <Usernumber7> Oh no,I meant like take old phone charger, peel it off and roll cables over pins on PI
[0:41] <Usernumber7> Imy new to pick. Looks like I need to order dupont wires?
[0:41] <Usernumber7> New to pick *
[0:42] <Usernumber7> Raspberry pi *. I want to connect module to it that's why
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[0:57] <mfa298> Usernumber7: anything tht makes a good connection between the gpio header and your module would be fine
[0:57] <mfa298> "dupont" wires are the standard starting point
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[0:58] <mfa298> any wire could be useable, but you need to take care to get goood connection and not accidentlly short stuff
[0:59] <mfa298> and he left ...
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[1:05] <DaCoolCat> Hello@
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[12:38] <TheGallopingFox> can more than 1x raspberry pi tv hat be used on a single board?
[12:39] <TheGallopingFox> https://www.raspberrypi.org/blog/raspberry-pi-tv-hat/
[12:43] <mfa298> The HAT spec says you can only have a single hat connected at a time (except the PoE hat which can be stacked)
[12:43] <mfa298> also I wouldn't be surprised if there's only enough bandwidth on the gpio for a single tv stream
[12:44] <gordonDrogon> just buy a Pi 0W for each TV board...............
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[16:27] <azy> is it practical to use the latest raspberry pi as a linux pc?
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[16:29] <gordonDrogon> it all depends on your expectations.
[16:29] <gordonDrogon> if you can live with a relatively slow "PC" with 1GB of RAM and a 1.2GHz clock, then ... maybe.
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[16:51] <iodev> azy: depends
[16:52] <iodev> if you plan to have a window manager, sure
[16:52] <azy> im more concerned with the arm part
[16:52] <iodev> azy: well ... you can't run binaries from anywhere outside the repo
[16:52] <iodev> (you shouldn't)
[16:52] <azy> i'd have to compile everything right?
[16:52] <iodev> you would have to recompile some outside stuff
[16:52] <azy> or some things at least
[16:53] <iodev> but you will find libreoffice or firefox in the repo
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[16:53] <iodev> java stuff will work perfectly
[16:53] <iodev> azy: for me the only limit would be the RAM
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[16:53] <iodev> I could barely run firefox
[16:53] <azy> yeah 1gb will be tough
[16:54] <iodev> right now, on my x86-64 PC I'm using 305 MB
[16:54] <mlelstv> .oO( more swapspace )
[16:54] <gordonDrogon> it will depends what you intend to run on it.
[16:54] <iodev> (I only have weechat open)
[16:54] <iodev> azy: if I open firefox, let's see
[16:54] <gordonDrogon> for compiling your own C code - unless you have a mega project it'll be fine.
[16:54] <mlelstv> firefox easily grows beyond 1GB and will crash then
[16:54] <iodev> azy: jumps to 710-720 MB
[16:54] <iodev> without any tab open! and with 2 add-ons
[16:54] <mlelstv> it's barely usuable on any 32bit system
[16:55] <iodev> (password manager and pop up blocker)
[16:55] <azy> hm
[16:55] <azy> what about swap?
[16:55] <iodev> azy: SLOW
[16:55] <iodev> it's very slow
[16:55] <mlelstv> you probably want an USB disk.
[16:55] <iodev> azy: if you can live with ARM, and you have every package you need in the repo
[16:56] <BCMM> azy: performance might be a problem, but arm itself isn't a problem. in the Windows world, you have to deal with limited application support and a weird, nerfed version of the OS, but on linux, it's not like that
[16:56] <iodev> or easily buildable, then you can get another device more powerful than the Pi, to run your desktop
[16:56] <BCMM> azy: open-source applications can be recompiled for different processors - nearly every open-source package in debian is available on the pi
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[16:57] <BCMM> running ARM is approximately as limiting as running a pure free-software distro (since it's basically just proprietary software that can't be ported)
[16:57] <azy> i want a low power consuming pc for basic office/webdev stuff. ill add a laptop screen + wireless keyboard, very fast microsd card
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[16:57] <iodev> BCMM: yes, nearly every app is available
[16:57] <iodev> I only had to build Yubico-PAM till now
[16:58] <azy> the only software i need a replacement for will be sublime text
[16:58] <iodev> docker, nginx, everything worked ... with sudo apt-get install
[16:58] <azy> i think..
[16:58] <iodev> azy: github's atom
[16:58] <iodev> or VS Code (cough, cough, microsoft)
[16:58] <iodev> or use vim like me :D
[16:58] <azy> i used to love visual studio for c. i only use php these days
[16:59] <iodev> write php in vim?
[16:59] <gordonDrogon> ides like geany and eclipse work on the pi.
[16:59] <gordonDrogon> I use vim though.
[16:59] <azy> ive always put off learning how to use vim 'properly'... you know, learning more than i, esc, :wq
[17:00] <azy> atom looks cool. that or vim will do
[17:00] <azy> those orange pis have 2gb ram, but i hear they're unreliable?
[17:00] <iodev> I do that, I write everything in vim :D
[17:00] <BCMM> azy: i don't see why you'd have to compile everything you want to use, really. you *should* be using your distro's package manager anyway
[17:00] <gordonDrogon> nano is a simple cursor insert-always type editor.
[17:00] <BCMM> if all your existing software comes from downloading random x86 executables from websites, yeah that might be a problem
[17:00] <BCMM> but that was already a problem
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[17:00] <iodev> azy: NanoPi M4 is also an alternative, but I have no idea how reliable it is
[17:01] <iodev> I have a rapsberry pi 3 model B plus
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[17:01] <iodev> BCMM: yes, downloading apps is always an issue
[17:01] <iodev> *random apps
[17:01] <iodev> it's what makes windows so virus-prone
[17:01] <azy> cool @ nanopi
[17:02] <iodev> if you get it, get the 4 GB model, but make sure, most of these "Pi-clones" are Chinese and "no-name" products
[17:02] <iodev> made by some weird Ltd
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[17:02] <iodev> azy: but why do you want a Pi as a computer?
[17:03] <azy> cheap, low power consumption + essentially having a 'dumb' pc i cant procrastinate as easily on
[17:04] <iodev> I get it, can't run games :D
[17:04] <azy> more portable than a laptop in the sense that i can split the screen + keyboard up, also. my posture is going to shit from using a laptop
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[17:05] <gordonDrogon> plenty o fgames that run on a Pi - just not modern 3d shoot-em-up types...
[17:06] <gordonDrogon> e.g. zork and colossal cave run very well ...
[17:06] <iodev> gordonDrogon: :-) it can play super-tux, I know, I know
[17:06] <gordonDrogon> although I understand quake3 runs ok on it.
[17:07] <iodev> I have no idea what quake3 is
[17:07] <iodev> I'm no gamer
[17:07] <gordonDrogon> https://unicorn.drogon.net/doom2.jpg <-- runs very well :-)
[17:07] <iodev> oh, cool, you have a website (and a domain)
[17:07] <iodev> do you host it on your Pi? or somewhere else?
[17:07] <gordonDrogon> who, me?
[17:08] <iodev> drogon.net?
[17:08] <iodev> isn't that yours?
[17:08] <gordonDrogon> yes, that's one of mine.
[17:08] <gordonDrogon> I've had that one since 1995. when were you born?
[17:08] <iodev> 1999
[17:08] <iodev> :D
[17:08] <iodev> I have iodev.science
[17:08] <iodev> I'm a fan of gTLDs
[17:08] <BCMM> doom is selling the pi short. quake iii runs fine on it
[17:09] <gordonDrogon> I'm not and most of them are blocked in my email filter.
[17:09] <iodev> I just use gmail, the mail I get is usually from companies, so it doesn't matter
[17:09] <iodev> (I mean confirm mails)
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[17:10] <iodev> but when (should say if) it does matter, I have thunderbird + enigmail ready
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[17:14] <gordonDrogon> and to answer an earlier question; no - it's not hosted on a Pi. I used to run an ISP/voip/hosting company but that's all mostly gone now and I just have a few VPSs for some friends & family left.
[17:14] <iodev> I use scaleway for mine, a VPS
[17:15] <gordonDrogon> they're cheap enough these days - until you want lots of ram or storage though.
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[17:15] <iodev> mine is 2$, I only need nginx and PHP
[17:15] <iodev> I already have a Pi for the heavy-lifting
[17:15] <gordonDrogon> $2 a month?
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[17:15] <iodev> yes
[17:15] <gordonDrogon> jsut remember that you get what you pay for. keep backups.
[17:15] <iodev> it comes with 512 MB of RAM and an Intel Atom :D
[17:16] <iodev> but, as I said it runs nginx and fastcgi just fine
[17:16] <iodev> (very fast)
[17:16] <gordonDrogon> no reason it shouldn't.
[17:19] <iodev> and if they lose my data, who cares
[17:19] <iodev> they'll give me 10$ of free credits
[17:19] <iodev> I'll restore my site from github
[17:19] <iodev> (it's open source, win-win)
[17:20] <iodev> in the past, I had a 5$ droplet on DigitalOcean
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[17:20] <iodev> that I used to run VPN server (for myself) using Strongswan or OpenVPN
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[17:24] <gordonDrogon> hm. 4 out of 5 tapes won't write in this ancient compute I have. guess I'll need to take the drive out and look at it. not sure I can be bothered though.
[17:25] <DaCoolCat> Thar's not good.
[17:26] <Khaytsus> tapes.. heh
[17:26] <gordonDrogon> it is quite old.
[17:26] <gordonDrogon> I think it's the write protect mechanism.
[17:26] <gordonDrogon> older than iodev ;-)
[17:27] <DaCoolCat> Yea. Be shure to check the data transfer wires for breakages
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[17:27] <gordonDrogon> it reads old tapes ok. scsi interface - it's not that old - dc600a tapes.
[17:28] <iodev> gordonDrogon: I know how to use a floppy
[17:28] <DaCoolCat> Pretty much, a long time ago, you could store data on floppy disks, or on a cassette tape.
[17:28] <gordonDrogon> 80386 @ 16Mhz with 4MB of RAM running Unix SysVr3 - and you thought a Pi was slow/limiting ... ;-)
[17:29] <iodev> and I know how to program a Commodore 64, I studied retro computing
[17:29] <DaCoolCat> That's cool
[17:30] <gordonDrogon> it could support up to 24 users in it's day - all over serial terminals. (max 16MB RAM & 20Mhz processor)
[17:30] <iodev> DaCoolCat: or on an IOMEGA Zip drive
[17:30] <iodev> if it didn't break on you
[17:31] <iodev> I learned those were really unrealible
[17:31] <DaCoolCat> What is that?
[17:31] <iodev> *reliable
[17:31] <iodev> 100 MB Floppy
[17:31] <iodev> kind of :D
[17:32] <DaCoolCat> That's cool.
[17:33] <gordonDrogon> I still use 5.25" floppys for some of the computers I have.
[17:33] <iodev> respect!
[17:33] <DaCoolCat> Awesome
[17:33] <gordonDrogon> https://unicorn.drogon.net/lode.jpg
[17:34] <gordonDrogon> capacity: 130KB, single sided, 35 track.
[17:34] <BCMM> the best thing about Zip drives was plugging your printer directly in to your floppy drive
[17:34] <iodev> the apple 2 had the 6510 right?
[17:34] <BCMM> just because it made so little apparent sense
[17:34] <gordonDrogon> 6502
[17:34] <Fulgen_> wut
[17:34] <iodev> ahh, the classic
[17:34] <DaCoolCat> Close to the end of their usage in computers, they started makeing bad loppy disks that were really unreliable
[17:35] <iodev> 6502 was used on NES, Apple I/II and Commodore 64
[17:35] <iodev> it has an Accumulator register, and I've tried to write an emulator for it once
[17:35] <iodev> too hard for me :D
[17:35] <gordonDrogon> Commodore PET -> Vic20 -> C64
[17:35] <iodev> VIC 20 is what Linus Torvalds had :D
[17:36] <Jupp3> Well, slightly disagree with NES
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[17:36] <balance> hi
[17:36] <Jupp3> Since it has disabled parts of decimal mode functionality
[17:36] <gordonDrogon> it's easy to emulater if you want cycle accuracy which is needed for games that work on cycle counting.
[17:36] <DaCoolCat> Whoever invented the Z80 chip must be a millionare.
[17:36] <Jupp3> iodev: And later, Sinclair QL
[17:36] <gordonDrogon> er, harder for cycle accuracy ...
[17:36] <gordonDrogon> QL was 68000, wasn't it?
[17:37] <Jupp3> And SNES uses 16bit version of the same CPU family
[17:37] <Jupp3> 6502 that is
[17:37] <Jupp3> Well, 65816 in snes
[17:37] <balance> so I just flashed a card new and added a file called ssh to the boot partition then connected it to my netork and scanner it with nmap -sP hich found to hosts - so I try ssh pi@ip (im sure the ip is correct) but I keep getting connection refused - anything else I need to set up?
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[17:37] <Jupp3> gordonDrogon: 68008 apparently
[17:37] <gordonDrogon> DaCoolCat, probably not - as these things are made by companies and the engineers who design stuff rarely make the big bucks - it's the company owners/shareholders. Engineers almost always lose out. )-:
[17:38] <DaCoolCat> Aww
[17:38] <gordonDrogon> e.g. me. good engineer, crap businessman.
[17:39] <balance> I might just found my issue so nevermind
[17:39] <iodev> well, I'm glad we kind of standardized on CISC
[17:39] <iodev> x86_64
[17:39] <iodev> I mean, RISC is nice, but it can
[17:39] <gordonDrogon> ARM is RISC though, and yet, there are more ARM processors in use than anything else ...
[17:39] <Jupp3> And there's 6502 also in Atari 2600, and even Atari Lynx
[17:39] <Jupp3> iodev: Well, the fact is, most CPUs are RISC
[17:40] <iodev> * can't provide the computing power to run more complicated stuff
[17:40] <gordonDrogon> loads of stuff with the 6502 and variants.
[17:40] <iodev> Jupp3: really?
[17:40] <gordonDrogon> and the 6502 is still being manufactuered today. you can buy new ones.
[17:40] <Jupp3> In "amount of CPUs in use", that is, not different models available
[17:40] <iodev> Jupp3: my phone happens to have the same chip as the raspberry pi (just different manufacturer)
[17:40] <Jupp3> iodev: And modern X86 chips have internal RISC implementation afaik, but I definitely count them as CISC
[17:40] <iodev> the Pi uses the Broadcom Cortex-A53
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[17:41] <iodev> my phone uses the Mediatek Cortex A53
[17:41] <Jupp3> iodev: Exactly. Phones are VERY large portion of "all CPUs in use"
[17:41] <Jupp3> Then all the network equipment etc.
[17:41] <iodev> which leaves me to wonder, what if I use Termux and compile a binary on my phone
[17:41] <iodev> then copy it to Raspberry pi
[17:41] <iodev> will it run flawlessly?
[17:41] <gordonDrogon> no
[17:41] <tvm> hmm, has anyone idea if there's some way to check battery status of these PI RTC modules ?
[17:41] <balance> hmm atually I still have my little problem :p
[17:41] <tvm> i think it's not possible, but i could be wrong
[17:42] <Jupp3> iodev: You can definitely cross develop, but doing that on phone doesn't sound like "making things easier" :)
[17:42] <gordonDrogon> tvm turn it off for a day, turn it on, if it's got the righ time then it's ok :)
[17:43] <iodev> my app is "ELF 32-bit LSB pie executable, ARM, EABI5 version 1 (SYSV), dynamically linked, interpreter /system/bin/linker"
[17:43] <tvm> gordonDrogon, yeah i know, but it's kinda hard with thousands of devices spread somewhere across EU
[17:45] <iodev> gordonDrogon: if I link it statically it can work!
[17:45] <iodev> If I write it in assembly
[17:46] <tvm> but then again, most of the internet states 10+ years of endurance on battery
[17:47] <ali1234> whether used or not, that is how long they last
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[17:50] <tvm> yep, it seems so
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[18:00] <balance> nevermind I think it's a problem of my system here
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[18:02] <DaCoolCat> AwwI've got a battriry for my pi, but I have no way of checking it's life on the pi. The battry has a little thing to disply how much life is in it yet, but I want my pi to know how much life is in the battiry, too.
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[18:19] <gordonDrogon> you can get an ADC for the Pi an use it to measure the batt. votage.
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[18:23] <Encrypt> I've just restarted my old Raspberry Pi B with Raspbian Stretch
[18:23] <Encrypt> Works well for the moment :D
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[18:24] <gordonDrogon> I keep meaning to put my old Pi's in nice cases, but Pimoroni don't make them anymore.
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[18:29] <gordonDrogon> however... https://www.thingiverse.com/thing:33443
[18:30] <Encrypt> I can feel that the Raspberry Pi B is less powerful :D
[18:30] <Encrypt> apt-get install'ing python3-pip & its dependencies is a bit slower compared to a Raspberry Pi 2
[18:30] <gordonDrogon> less powerfull with Stretch than the old Wheezy?
[18:30] <gordonDrogon> it has less ram, goes slower and ...
[18:31] <gordonDrogon> you should be able to run it at 900Mhz without any issues - all my old oles are OK at that speed.
[18:32] <Fulgen_> It can be backpowered though :p
[18:32] <gordonDrogon> depends on the model - the original v1.0's had 120mA fuses on the usb.
[18:33] <gordonDrogon> they were removed at the 1.1 revision (it may be 1.1 -> 1.2, but anyway - you can tell visually)
[18:33] <Fulgen_> ok
[18:34] <Encrypt> I don't know if it will be powerfuol enough to run Home Assistant (<.<)
[18:35] <Encrypt> That's the point of my test though
[18:35] <Fulgen_> try it
[18:35] <Encrypt> I'll also have to install a light windows manager and a web browser
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[18:36] <Encrypt> The plan is to make it a "home assistant" controller
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[18:39] <RoyK> Encrypt: check memory and swapt usage for a start - run "free" - and install sysstat and enable it so that you can monitor cpu usage over time
[18:40] <RoyK> Encrypt: or perhaps munin or monit or zabbix or something if you want a fancy graph
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[18:41] <RoyK> Encrypt: I use a pi3 for home assistant - works well, is fast enough, no issues, and the speed difference between a pi2 and a pi3 isn't that high
[18:42] <gordonDrogon> I don't have a home assistant. what am I missing?
[18:42] <Khaytsus> Nothing
[18:43] <Khaytsus> It's a pain in the ass framework to automate things if you have TONS of free time to screw with it
[18:43] <RoyK> Encrypt: sorry - it's a pi2
[18:43] <Khaytsus> It's like building a house from a pile of wood, screws, nails, and a hammer.
[18:44] <RoyK> gordonDrogon: it's good for automating things like 433MHz things and other stuff for your home
[18:44] <gordonDrogon> I don't have any 422Mhz things.
[18:44] <gordonDrogon> (or even 433)
[18:44] <Khaytsus> I automate my 433mhz things by a simple gpio and a python script
[18:44] <gordonDrogon> just old fashioned mechanical switches and a single remote control for the TV.
[18:46] <Khaytsus> And a buggy for going to the store?
[18:48] <gordonDrogon> no, I can walk.
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[18:49] <gordonDrogon> it's nice geeky technology, but I don't feel I'm missing out by not having it (other than having more money in the bank by not buying it :)
[18:49] <gordonDrogon> I did visit a friend once who was all Alexa'd up - alexa, set the dining room lights to 50 percent.
[18:49] <gordonDrogon> and so on.
[18:50] <gordonDrogon> it mostly worked.
[18:50] <Khaytsus> Nah I don't ahve all that. I have 433mhz power outlets
[18:50] <Khaytsus> And the pi sends commands to them to turn them on/off
[18:50] <Khaytsus> they were cheap, and my house is mostly lamp lit
[18:51] <gordonDrogon> ah, we still have gas and candles here ...
[18:54] <iodev> tomorrow I stay a lot at university, is there any way I can power off the Pi and back on
[18:54] <gordonDrogon> of-course we don't in-case anything things I'm being serious, but the house did have gas lighting once upon a time as I found out when putting in new lights not long after we moved in - old lead piping and scorch marks in the joists above the living room ceiling ...
[18:54] <iodev> maybe a power button via GPIO?
[18:55] <iodev> Khaytsus: fancy burning down to the ground? (i hope those are not gas lamps)
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[18:57] <Khaytsus> gas lamps? wut?
[18:58] <DaCoolCat> You know, Lamps powered py gas?
[18:59] <gordonDrogon> Khaytsus, very very common in the UK in victorian times.
[18:59] <Encrypt> RoyK, Oh, good to hear that :)
[18:59] <gordonDrogon> and right through to the 1960's in old houses.
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[18:59] <Encrypt> RoyK, Do you use MySensors too?
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[19:04] <Encrypt> 1888 homeass+ 20 0 39332 35256 8012 R 96.5 19.1 2:00.45 pip3
[19:04] <Encrypt> 96.5% of CPU, eh eh
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[19:07] <iodev> Khaytsus: you said you still used lamps!
[19:07] <iodev> nevermind, I read you wrong :D
[19:07] <iodev> gordonDrogon: you still have them?
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[19:10] <DaCoolCat> Hello
[19:11] <gordonDrogon> iodev, the gas lamps? No they were removed from the house a long time ago - they just left the gas pipes, etc. under the flood boards.
[19:13] <iodev> under the floor boards LOL!
[19:13] <iodev> They were insane back then
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[19:13] <iodev> gas filled pipes under the flood, could explode at ANY time
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[19:13] <gordonDrogon> not really.
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[19:14] <gordonDrogon> there are gas pipes under almost every street in most towns and citys today...
[19:14] <iodev> right, but the old ones are made from ... lead?
[19:14] <gordonDrogon> and how else would you get gas to a lamp on the ceiling? You run the pipe up the wall, over the ceiling/under the floorboards of the room above and into the lamp.
[19:15] <gordonDrogon> lead is easy to work.
[19:15] <iodev> lead rusts easily
[19:15] <gordonDrogon> we've been using lead pipes for the past 2000 years or more. the Romans were using it.
[19:16] <iodev> nowadays pipes are made better, I'm not really an expert on pipes
[19:16] <gordonDrogon> er lead doesn't really rust
[19:16] <gordonDrogon> now we use coppe or plastic for gas & water pipes.
[19:16] <iodev> copper is better right?
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[19:17] <gordonDrogon> the answer is: "it depends".
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[19:18] <gordonDrogon> however there is an issue with water in lead pipes, so no-one uses lead for new water pipes anymore. there are still millions of houses here with lead pipes going into them though.
[19:18] <iodev> gordonDrogon: hmm, I
[19:18] <iodev> am in Romania, and all of our houses use copper for water
[19:19] <iodev> every place I've been too had copper
[19:19] <iodev> *to
[19:19] <Encrypt> RoyK, How much CPU does Home Assistant consume when idling?
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[19:19] <DaCoolCat> bye
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[19:20] <iodev> gordonDrogon: the lead may be in the houses marked "seismic risk class 1 RED" :D
[19:20] <iodev> because nobody is renovating them, or demolishing them, they will fall on our heads
[19:20] <iodev> and they are pretty high, 5 story buildings
[19:20] <gordonDrogon> you may find that in old houses they have lead going from the street pipe to the house. unless they replaced every single one over the years...
[19:21] <iodev> BOOM!
[19:21] <gordonDrogon> although it may depend on the roman influence...
[19:21] <iodev> well, I gtg now, ttyl (tomorrow)
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[19:25] <Encrypt> RoyK, "2018-10-21 17:21:02 WARNING (MainThread) [homeassistant.setup] Setup of recorder is taking over 10 seconds."
[19:25] <Encrypt> "Yes Home Assistant, you're running on a Raspberry Pi B"
[19:25] <Encrypt> Ah ah
[19:26] <Encrypt> It's installing loads of libraries right now, eh eh
[19:26] <Khaytsus> I gave up on HA when I kept having to manually delete some database to make it start working again.. So I set up a cronjob to do it weekly. then realized it wasn't worth my time
[19:28] <Encrypt> But Home Assistant is smooth :D
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[19:30] <Khaytsus> meh...
[19:30] <Khaytsus> I spent a week of christmas vacation last year setting it up and I found it useless.
[19:31] <gordonDrogon> Ah, Home Assistant is an application?
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[19:31] <gordonDrogon> I was thinking it was just a term used for various home automations...
[19:31] <Khaytsus> yeah, it's a huge python suite
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[19:32] <Khaytsus> The only semi useful thing it did was turn on the lights when I got home, but I could already do that myself using tasker
[19:32] <Encrypt> gordonDrogon, https://www.home-assistant.io/demo :)
[19:32] <Khaytsus> beyond that the only useful thing it did was track when lights were on or of.... but everything it does requires explicit setup.
[19:33] <Khaytsus> Want to track lights going on? You gotta make whatever is turning the lights on send it a command to tell it so
[19:33] <Khaytsus> Traack weather? Neat.. except the database is only good for about a week
[19:33] <Khaytsus> and then it needs deleting or the whole thing is broken
[19:35] <gordonDrogon> ok.
[19:35] <Encrypt> Khaytsus, The point of Home Assistant is to track variables for a short term
[19:35] <Encrypt> short period of time I mean
[19:36] <Khaytsus> Apparently. Because the database makes the whole thing die if it's more than a week old
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[19:36] <Khaytsus> So basically all it wound up being was a weather panel, which I could get online
[19:36] <gordonDrogon> well, their website won't work in firefox with a cookie blocker, so they lose.
[19:37] <gordonDrogon> however I did have a look in chrome... it must cost a small fortune to "enable" a house with switchable lighting/sockets, etc. not to mention the widgetry to talk to the tv/hi-fi/kitchen, etc.
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[19:38] <Encrypt> gordonDrogon, That's why MySensors exists
[19:38] <Encrypt> gordonDrogon, You can build sensors for a few dollars
[19:39] <Encrypt> MySensors allows you to build sensors / controllers with an Arduino, a radio and a few electronics components
[19:39] <Encrypt> Sensors that you can then plug to Home Assistant
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[19:40] <RoyK> Encrypt: does it work now?
[19:40] <Encrypt> Nope
[19:41] <Encrypt> It's taking forever to install on a Pi 1 x)
[19:41] <RoyK> high cpu or memory usage?
[19:41] <RoyK> pi1 sucks
[19:41] <Encrypt> I wouldn't say that, I'd say that it's... different
[19:42] <RoyK> a pi2 or a pi3 or perhaps a pi3+ has a lot more cpu - works better for that sort of things
[19:42] <Encrypt> It was a revolution when it came out
[19:42] <RoyK> I know - I bought one of the first ones ;)
[19:42] <Encrypt> But that's the point of the test
[19:42] <Encrypt> To see if Home Assistant would correctly work on a Pi 1
[19:43] <Encrypt> And I don't have a Pi 2 in stock here :D
[19:43] <RoyK> I thought you were talking about a pi2
[19:43] <Encrypt> Nope
[19:43] <RoyK> still - the cpu usage for my pi2 with home assistant is relatively low
[19:43] <RoyK> per core
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[19:45] <RoyK> Encrypt: from sar -P ALL http://paste.debian.net/1048405/
[19:46] <RoyK> Encrypt: even with a single-core pi1 on 700MHz, that should be good
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[19:47] <Encrypt> Yep :)
[19:47] <Encrypt> Once it manages to finish its installation x)
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[19:49] <RoyK> how long has it taken so far_
[19:49] <RoyK> ?
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[19:51] <iodev> LOL! https://xkcd.com/2051/
[19:51] <iodev> this is the first really funny joke XKCD has :D
[19:52] <Encrypt> Hum
[19:52] <Encrypt> RoyK, Something like an hour now
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[19:53] <RoyK> iodev: https://xkcd.com/386/ ;)
[19:54] <RoyK> Encrypt: any cpu usage?
[19:54] <Encrypt> Yep, 100% xD
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[19:54] <Encrypt> pip has downloaded packages that need compilation
[19:54] <RoyK> that's rather a lot - if I reboot mine, it takes like 3 minutes to come up
[19:55] <RoyK> oh - installation - not starting
[19:55] <RoyK> well, wait it out
[19:55] <Encrypt> Yes :)
[19:55] <Encrypt> RoyK, Did you create a SystemD unit as they recommend?
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[19:56] <RoyK> Encrypt: I just have a few switches - 240V - on 433MHz and a DHT-22 sensor hooked on to this - and yes - using systemd
[19:57] <RoyK> using raspbian stretch
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[20:10] <Encrypt> Alright
[20:10] <Encrypt> It seems to be running now :D
[20:11] <RoyK> >(
[20:11] <RoyK> :)
[20:11] <RoyK> some issues with character set here…
[20:11] <RoyK> Encrypt: try a reboot - just to see how long it takes to get online - I guess 4 minues
[20:13] <Encrypt> Well
[20:13] <Encrypt> It seems to be pretty good on a Pi 1 actually :D
[20:14] <RoyK> what do you have connected to the thing?
[20:15] <Encrypt> Nothing for the moment
[20:15] <Encrypt> I can add my Chromecast to the UI right now
[20:16] <Encrypt> I'll see if it works :P
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[20:17] <RoyK> Encrypt: those cheap 433mhz switches or relays work well with it
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[20:26] <Encrypt> RoyK, The Chromecast integration works well :)
[20:27] <Encrypt> RoyK, I plan to use MySensors with 868MHz radios
[20:27] <Encrypt> Cools stuff!
[20:27] <Encrypt> Cool*
[20:28] <uriah> Encrypt: interesting
[20:28] <Encrypt> Yep!
[20:28] <uriah> what radios will you use?
[20:29] <Encrypt> uriah, RFM69W or RFM69HW
[20:29] <Encrypt> I haven't made my mind yet
[20:29] <uriah> neat
[20:30] <uriah> is that a software defined radio or uses an interface?
[20:31] <uriah> and well
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[20:31] <Encrypt> uriah, It's a ready to use radio
[20:32] <Encrypt> And MySensors supports it
[20:32] <Encrypt> It has nice features like a built-in temperature sensor, encryption and much more
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[20:32] <uriah> this for home automation?
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[20:38] <RoyK> uriah: home assistant is all about home automation
[20:39] <Encrypt> It seems the UI is not completely translated in French
[20:39] <Encrypt> I may help them on that :)
[20:41] <uriah> cool
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[20:42] <uriah> I was hoping to find testers for my raspberry pi sdr distro in here but it doesn't seem like many people in here have the same interests as me :) that's why I asked
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[20:43] <RoyK> what sdr?
[20:43] <uriah> the rtl-sdr one
[20:43] <uriah> I tested with rtl-sdr.com v3
[20:44] <uriah> the ~$27 kit
[20:44] <RoyK> iirc that doesn't support sending
[20:44] <RoyK> or transmitting
[20:44] <uriah> the pi can transmit
[20:44] <uriah> but since I've been busy, that part hasn't been tested yet
[20:45] <uriah> just built/installed
[20:45] <mfa298> uriah: the rfm69 is an ISM radio that uses spi
[20:45] <uriah> anyway
[20:45] <uriah> ah
[20:45] <uriah> cool
[20:46] <Encrypt> Dinner time, I'll play with Home Assistant this evening, eh eh
[20:46] <uriah> heh
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[20:46] <RoyK> uriah: but why a whole distro?
[20:47] <uriah> anyway, if any of you are sdr nerds and want to help with this project take a look: https://github.com/armtux/gentoo-rpi3b-radio/releases/tag/0.1-beta1
[20:47] <uriah> RoyK: because I like to build gentoo
[20:47] <uriah> and the way I set my gentoo up is impressive in and of itself
[20:48] <RoyK> - Ubuntu - Ancient african word meaning "I'm too tired of compiling Gentoo"
[20:48] <uriah> even if you don't have a rtl-sdr you can still boot this
[20:49] <uriah> and see what I mean
[20:49] <mfa298> uriah: for getting people to try out an sdr distro you're probbly better off posting something about it rather than asking random people
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[20:49] <uriah> mfa298: true
[20:49] <RoyK> uriah: well, I'd rather use raspbian with a driver than reinstall the whole system
[20:49] <uriah> RoyK: no need.
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[20:49] <uriah> it's a bootable to RAM single file OS
[20:50] <RoyK> well, I tend to like Debian and its relatives
[20:50] <uriah> all you need is 300MB on the boot partition
[20:51] <mfa298> from that github page all that stuff exists and is easy to instll on raspbian
[20:51] <RoyK> with an early beta or alpha
[20:51] <RoyK> well
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[20:51] <RoyK> I choose raspbian
[20:51] <uriah> mfa298: I've been too tired to write the necessary intro to this project for a mailing list post but it will happen
[20:51] <mfa298> although last time I tried sdr on pi, the pi2 (most recent at the time) was a bit slow
[20:52] <RoyK> uriah: so how many developers are there on this project?
[20:52] <uriah> well, just me, but then again gentoo devs are many helpful souls
[20:53] <mfa298> uriah: you might wnt to consider whether rpitx is wise to include, using it in most places will mean breaking the law
[20:53] <RoyK> good idea - ditch your raspbian, backed by debian developers and switch to a new distro created by one person
[20:53] <uriah> mfa298: that's the point of this setup: trying to greatly improve sdr performance on the pi, including by offloading work to the vc4 fou
[20:53] <uriah> gpu
[20:54] <uriah> autocorrect-_-
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[20:54] <uriah> mfa298: true but ... don't other distributions already include it anyway?
[20:55] <uriah> RoyK: you'll never know what this is like unless you find a small SD card and try booting it ;)
[20:56] <uriah> but gentoo is a bit of a pain to develop
[20:56] <uriah> took me 1.5months to get it running
[20:57] <mfa298> I'm not sure any distro includes rpitx by default (probably as its mostly illegal to use), people have to build it themselves
[20:57] <uriah> ah I see
[20:57] <mfa298> the forums tend to lock/delete posts relted to it and similar tools
[20:57] <uriah> maybe I'll exclude it then, to be responsible
[20:57] <uriah> ah ok :(
[20:57] <uriah> sad
[20:58] <uriah> sorry then
[21:00] <mfa298> rpitx/rpifm work by abusing one of the clocks on the pi, which means mking a transmitter with a square wave, which tends to mean you get lots of nasty harmonics splattering everywhere (and potentilly interfering with things you don't want to interferre with)
[21:00] <uriah> ah
[21:01] <uriah> I plan on making a good filter to test with, mfa298
[21:01] <uriah> anyway
[21:02] <uriah> the true purpose of this build is to make a preliminary weather balloon platform
[21:02] <uriah> solar powered mostly
[21:02] <uriah> I have a design theory for being able to travel around the planet in the jet stream
[21:03] <uriah> without refueling
[21:03] <mfa298> if you mea a weather balloon to fly there's plenty of stuff already out there
[21:03] <uriah> sure
[21:03] <mfa298> nd rpf have done a lot of stuff in raspbian already for that
[21:03] <uriah> but this build provides resilience
[21:03] <uriah> because it doesn't eat the sd card
[21:04] <mfa298> I think there's already been a few solar powered zeros been sent up
[21:04] <uriah> reads kernel8.img into memory and then you can even remove the sd card if you want :)
[21:04] <uriah> cool
[21:05] <uriah> mfa298: my design is more for long term flight/analysis etc
[21:05] <uriah> not just one day
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[21:05] <mfa298> and from a baloon I'd be very wary of using something like rpitx. the scope for interferring with things from a balloon is much higher (the amount of things ttht can see your transmission is huge)
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[21:06] <uriah> mfa298: I'll be filtering the signal
[21:06] <mfa298> uriah: from seeing plenty of other flights the pi is the wrong platform for long duration flights.
[21:07] <uriah> why? too high power?
[21:07] <mfa298> uriah: and you'll 100% gaurentuee no splatter for aircrft, millitry etc?
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[21:07] <uriah> well I'll probably be insulating the hardware in a faraday cage and aerogel
[21:08] <mfa298> the most recent long durtion balloons hve been solar only with the whole paylod (electronics, panels etc) weighing a few grams
[21:08] <uriah> mfa298: I'll be using this only once I have an amateur radio licence obviously and know what I'm transmitting
[21:08] <uriah> cool
[21:09] <uriah> that's really light
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[21:09] <SpeedEvil> uriah: http://leobodnar.com/balloons/B-64/index.html
[21:10] <uriah> thanks SpeedEvil
[21:10] <SpeedEvil> see the links on the envelope and payload at the top
[21:10] <SpeedEvil> 11 grams
[21:11] <uriah> hmm
[21:11] <uriah> well
[21:12] <uriah> I can still try right?
[21:12] <mfa298> I think with Leo's blloons the battery gve up after a month or two, and that was with him testing some batteries designed for low temps
[21:12] <uriah> ah
[21:12] <uriah> well as I said
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[21:12] <uriah> I'll be insulating it in aerogel
[21:12] <uriah> cause it's affordable now
[21:13] <mfa298> uriah: try, but for long duration you really want a low power micro controller.
[21:13] <uriah> not necessarily
[21:14] <uriah> depends on the lift device
[21:14] <uriah> and how much it can carry
[21:14] <mfa298> price isn't the issue, weight is. The good long duration flights need to get above the weather and a balloon thats uv tolerant.
[21:14] <uriah> I'm not using latex/hydrogen
[21:14] <uriah> :)
[21:14] <uriah> is nylon uv tolerant?
[21:15] <mfa298> unless your google tht means very light payloads (like the 11g payloads Leo mde)
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[21:17] <uriah> mfa298: nope
[21:17] <uriah> am not google
[21:18] <uriah> I just feel like making a ~50-80m^2 hot air balloon is all
[21:19] <uriah> for testing my theory about solar heating
[21:19] <uriah> which can definitely be more efficient than PV panels
[21:19] <mfa298> hot air baloon isn't high altitude, and probably won't be that long duration
[21:21] <uriah> oops m^3
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[21:21] <uriah> mfa298: hot air balloon can reach 25km altitude with human payload
[21:22] <gordonDrogon> low temps... batteries ... better think of a plan for next year - I'll be in a place at -40 an taking (or trying to take) some long exposure photos ..
[21:22] <uriah> imagine not needing fuel and lighter payload
[21:22] <uriah> nice gordonDrogon
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[21:22] <uriah> but aerogel blankets
[21:23] <gordonDrogon> I suspect I'll be keeping the battery out of the camera until setup and ready to shoot...
[21:23] <gordonDrogon> will take 2 or 3 spares. keep them inside my jacket..
[21:24] <gordonDrogon> 220 miles north of the artctic circle.. in winter.
[21:25] <mfa298> wikipedia says the record for a hot air baloon is only 21km, so not sure why you think 25km is possible, and tht was presumably using lots of gas to burn (so becomes time limited)
[21:26] <uriah> gordonDrogon: I'm jealous
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[21:26] <mfa298> but hot air != solar baloons != what's normally meant by high altitude baloons
[21:27] <uriah> heheh
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[21:28] <uriah> solar heated ultralight hot air balloon with photovoltaic and battery powered payload
[21:28] <gordonDrogon> uriah, work; save money; go on holiday; lather, rinse, repeat .... retire.
[21:28] <uriah> nah
[21:28] <censured> all virtualization (kvm,..) on rpi3b+ is from software right?
[21:29] <uriah> work; wait for xmas; get the gear I wished for; work more; succeed
[21:29] <RoyK> iirc ARM has hwvirt now
[21:29] <uriah> nice
[21:29] <RoyK> but not sure if kvm has the things to support it yet
[21:29] <uriah> does it require a 64bit OS?
[21:29] <RoyK> probably not
[21:29] <uriah> ok
[21:30] <censured> RoyK, arm has hwvirt, but is the case of rpi3b+ ?
[21:31] <RoyK> censured: not sure
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[21:40] <Condor> Hello, I have an issue with DNS server selection in Raspbian Lite (Stretch, October release). By default it's apparently been set to 192.168.10.1, despite my home router advertising my own DNS server as 192.168.10.254. How can I change the Raspberry Pi to use this DNS server instead?
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[21:41] <Condor> It seems like the /etc/resolv.conf is being generated by resolvconf, so I suspect that I'd have to change something in resolvconf?
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[21:44] <mfa298> normlly resolvconf should be using whats been supplied by dhcp
[21:44] <mfa298> it would seem unlikely thaat 192.168.10.1 has been hard coded in the config as that's not going to work for 99% of people
[21:45] <Condor> Hmm, perhaps it's a "feature" in my router then.. any way to manually set it to 192.168.10.254?
[21:45] <gordonDrogon> normally I remove resolvconf, dhcp(c)d, systemd and do it the old way, but ... ;-)
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[21:45] <gordonDrogon> it seems very odd that it's fixed to that though - wonder if there's a mistake in the release...
[21:46] <Condor> gordonDrogon: Hmm, not a bad idea actually, I probably won't be needing dhcpcd anyway
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[21:46] <Condor> Since a static IP would be easier, then I can add that into the DNS zone too
[21:46] <mfa298> I'd check what the routers actually giving out (or any config you've added)
[21:46] <gordonDrogon> well - in these enlightened days, you use dhcpcd for static IPs too, so who knows...
[21:47] <mfa298> removing dhcpcd5 and doing it the old way should work, nd resolvconf should pick up the relevant lines in /e/n/interfaces*
[21:48] <Condor> Good point, haha. But I recall that in a static IP configuration I could also manually set the DNS server? Using ip route if memory serves me right.
[21:49] <mfa298> gordonDrogon: don't worry, ubuntu have added a new level of abstraction - netplan, so if they take oer the world (as they seem to wnt to) ther'll be something new for us to lern
[21:49] <Condor> yet another thing.. wicked! :')
[21:49] <Condor> as if snap wasn't enough already
[21:49] <Condor> oh well
[21:49] <Condor> oh and ufw and apparmor of cours
[21:49] <Condor> course *
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[21:50] <Condor> But anyway, removing dhcpcd and manually editing the interfaces files it is then?
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[21:52] <mfa298> the stndard method used to be putting everything in /e/n/interfaces, ip route would be for manging the routing table - nothing to do with dns
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[21:54] <Condor> Oh, right. My bad.. I'm still kinda new to this
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[21:56] <mfa298> you can put all the static network config into dhcpcd.conf s well, which is probably documented on the rpf site
[21:58] <RoyK> mfa298: not really - the standard is setting it in /etc/dhcpcd.conf IIRC
[21:59] <RoyK> someone fucked up the interfaces use at some time - for no apparent reason
[21:59] <gordonDrogon> RoyK, please keep it family friendly here.
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[21:59] <RoyK> oh - are we on #ubuntu language terms?
[22:00] <mfa298> RoyK: that's why I said: the stndard method *used* to be (past tense)
[22:00] <mfa298> you can still use /e/n/interfces if you remove dhcpcd5
[22:01] <gordonDrogon> RoyK, always has been - read the channel rules, etc.
[22:01] <RoyK> gordonDrogon: I stick to English as that of the Oxford dictionary - is that ok?
[22:03] <gordonDrogon> stick to what you want, just keep it family friendly.
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[22:04] <Condor> Eventually I went with editing dhcpcd.conf, works a treat! Thanks for the help :D
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[22:05] <gordonDrogon> Condor, was it hard wired in .conf for 10.1 ?
[22:06] <gordonDrogon> the dns that is.
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[22:06] <gordonDrogon> if so, it would be worth reporting it somewhere.
[22:06] <Condor> gordonDrogon: doesn't look like it, probably just taken from the DHCP server
[22:06] <Condor> for whatever reason my overpriced fritz!box decided to not go with its bloody configs
[22:06] <Condor> "it's a feature"
[22:07] <gordonDrogon> ah, fritzbox. I have one of them coming this week...
[22:07] <Condor> out of curiosity, which model?
[22:08] <gordonDrogon> which I'll never use, however it's what my new ISP supplies for "free"... (�50 install fee, so "free", ha!)
[22:08] <gordonDrogon> no idea.
[22:08] <Condor> haha, I see
[22:08] <Condor> not sure if you can configure it for passthrough
[22:08] <Condor> maybe I should look for that in mine as well
[22:08] <gordonDrogon> https://www.zen.co.uk/home/broadband/router
[22:08] <gordonDrogon> that one.
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[22:10] <mfa298> wow, zen is still around
[22:10] <gordonDrogon> going strong.
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[22:12] <BurtyB> working well for me (both zen and that router) :)
[22:13] <gordonDrogon> actually, didn't realise it was a modem as well as a router.
[22:13] <gordonDrogon> I'd planned to use the existing BT supplied modem and my own router, but if that has a better modem and can work in pass-through mode, I might use it.
[22:14] <BurtyB> I'm using mine in passthrough to my linux box
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[22:15] <gordonDrogon> ok. in that case I'll give it a go to see if I get a better signal than with the BT one. speed is a bit low here, even though I could thrown a stone close to the box.
[22:17] <gordonDrogon> BT replaced the pole that I'm fed from a couple of years back - the new pole was 1.5m taller than the old one, so they had to make a new wire cut and extend them which slowed things down a bit )-:
[22:17] <mfa298> useful to know there's a few good ISPs around still, I'm still on Eclipse (at least until they throw residential users off totally)
[22:17] <BurtyB> gordonDrogon, :(
[22:18] <gordonDrogon> eclipse -- aka Kingston. I hear they're just closed down their Exeter office.
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[22:18] <gordonDrogon> I was with enta but it was getting too expensive, so moved. go-live is saturday, but I only have 7GB peak-time data left... eek ;-)
[22:19] <mfa298> it's been a while since I needed to talk to them, but it's nice getting someone who doesn't just follow the turn it off and on script
[22:19] <gordonDrogon> technically an entanet reseller, but they've gone dumb in the support department too )-:
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[22:21] * BurtyB used to do the enta reseller thing via l2tp many years ago
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[22:32] <gordonDrogon> hope you have clued-up customers..
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[23:18] <Encrypt> RoyK, Hello again :)
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[23:18] <Encrypt> RoyK, Do you know where I can find information about the sensor "sensor.yr"
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[23:21] <Encrypt> Alright, found: https://www.home-assistant.io/components/sensor.yr/
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[23:41] <wuzamarine> I have a usb stack on a Pi zero, it fails to initialize. It turns on but never detects any usb devices. https://bpaste.net/show/f002af1c3547 I tried swapping out the Pi zero board and journalctl shows no USB related errors. Where else can I look?
[23:42] <Habbie> wuzamarine, how are you connecting the devices?
[23:43] <wuzamarine> Habbie: its one of these https://makerspot.com/2nd-gen-stackable-usb-hub-for-raspberry-pi-zero-v1-2/ to any usb device.
[23:43] <Habbie> oh i misunderstood 'stack', ok
[23:43] <wuzamarine> it was working perfectly then one day (could be after an update, I never checked after a reboot for like 3 months) it just failed.
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[23:46] <Habbie> those connections pins do not look robust
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[23:48] <Habbie> wuzamarine, do you have a multimeter?
[23:48] <wuzamarine> yup
[23:48] <Habbie> did you use it here?
[23:49] <wuzamarine> I can plug in a device to the USB and it will deliver plenty of juice. I have a nice/bright indicator LED on one test device.
[23:52] <Habbie> hmm? so you're saying two of the four pogo pins are working at least
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[23:54] <wuzamarine> Habbie: yup
[23:55] <wuzamarine> I have plenty of juice running to the stack. Its just not doing anything with it.
[23:55] <Habbie> so that suggests either up to two of the other pins are not working; or something else is the matter
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