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IRC Log for 2018-10-24

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[0:00] <johnjay> maybe i'm being stupid
[0:00] <johnjay> but do you mean the audio is going out over hte hdmi cable and not the 3.5mm cable?
[0:00] <friendofafriend> The Raspi will auto-detect if the HDMI is plugged in, and route audio across it.
[0:00] <johnjay> i don't have any hdmi options set in the config.txt
[0:00] <johnjay> ok i didn't know that
[0:00] <ferdinand> The currently selected audio out can be the hdmi port instead of the 3.5mm jack
[0:00] <johnjay> i have dtparam=audio=on in my config.txt to enable the jack i thought
[0:01] <friendofafriend> The command "amixer cset numid=3 1" sets the headphone jack as your audio output.
[0:01] <friendofafriend> "amixer cset numid=3 2" sets it back to HDMI. "amixer cset numid=3 0" is the mode it's probably in now, which is auto.
[0:02] <johnjay> hholy crap that worked
[0:02] <johnjay> what in the hell did you do
[0:02] <johnjay> there wasn't anything in alsamixer about that
[0:03] <friendofafriend> I'm not sure if raspi-config is available to you on that distro, but you'll find an option to set audio output under "Advanced Options", "Audio" there.
[0:04] <johnjay> it's skipping a bit but it's working
[0:05] <johnjay> like with no sound there's a light light crackly sound
[0:05] <johnjay> but yeah ti works, thanks
[0:05] <friendofafriend> Hey, you're welcome!
[0:05] <johnjay> what does numid 3 refer to?
[0:06] <johnjay> yeah thanks
[0:06] <johnjay> buffer 2
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[0:07] <johnjay> ubuntu-mate doesn't have raspi-config for some reason
[0:07] <friendofafriend> johnjay: numid is just a numerical way of setting a soundcard element with amixer.
[0:08] <friendofafriend> You may be able to install raspi-config iwth "sudo apt-get install raspi-config".
[0:08] <friendofafriend> with**
[0:09] <johnjay> i don't see it in the repos. i don't see how to get the hello_triangle and temperature programs on ubuntu-mate either
[0:11] <johnjay> weird, a guy on stackexchange says it's installed by default lol
[0:11] <johnjay> but it's not in 18.04... >_>
[0:11] <johnjay> thanks again friendofafriend i'll prob be around to fiddle with this later
[0:11] <friendofafriend> You can just do a "wget https://github.com/RPi-Distro/raspi-config".
[0:12] <friendofafriend> And then chmod 755 ./raspi-config
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[0:14] <Encrypt> Hello again :)
[0:14] <friendofafriend> Hi there, Encrypt!
[0:15] <Encrypt> A quick question: do you have any particular Ebay electronics store to recommend to me?
[0:15] <Encrypt> I plan to place a big order to start playing with electronics
[0:15] <Encrypt> Something like €150
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[0:16] <Encrypt> I found that one which has almost everything I need: https://www.ebay.fr/str/fraurora
[0:16] <friendofafriend> Encrypt: There's a very busy ##electronics channel.
[0:16] <Encrypt> Right, I could ask there
[0:16] <Encrypt> Thanks
[0:16] <friendofafriend> You would need to make sure you have a soldering iron, and that sort of thing.
[0:17] <friendofafriend> You're very welcome, there's lot of great advice to be had there.
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[0:19] <Encrypt> friendofafriend, I already have one :)
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[0:19] <akk> Encrypt: If I have a big order I usually go to a real company like jameco or mouser. For small orders, I search ebay for the specific parts.
[0:20] <Encrypt> Yeah
[0:20] <akk> Encrypt: The big companies have excellent prices and service, the only down side is shipping cost and that's usually nothing if you have a big order.
[0:20] <Encrypt> akk, I already ordered PCB components for a stillborn project to RadioSpares
[0:21] <friendofafriend> Are you into DigiKey, akk?
[0:21] <Encrypt> But I ended up with thousands of spare parts that I don't need
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[0:21] <Encrypt> akk, And the components they sell are more expensive than what can be found on Ebay
[0:21] <Encrypt> But I guess it's part of the game
[0:22] <akk> friendofafriend: I hate digi-key's website, it's so much harder to use than jameco or mouser.
[0:23] <akk> Every time I go there searching for parts I end up giving up and going somewhere else.
[0:24] <akk> Encrypt: I'm surprised, I've often found basic component prices to be as good or better at jameco compared to ebay.
[0:25] <Encrypt> akk, For instance: https://www.jameco.com/z/CF1-4W102JRC-Resistor-Carbon-Film-1k-Ohm-1-4-Watt-5-_690865.html
[0:25] <Encrypt> A resistor I've taken randomly
[0:25] <Encrypt> 10 cents per resistor
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[0:25] <Encrypt> Compared to this: https://www.ebay.fr/itm/1-4w-Resistance-1-Metal-Film-Resistor-Bag-30-kinds-Each-20pcs-Total-400-600pcs/263804662703
[0:26] <Encrypt> €2.98 for 600 resistors
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[0:29] <akk> Oh, yes, kits like that on ebay can be good. I got a bunch of resistors and capacitors like that from ebay sellers.
[0:29] <akk> I'm thinking more like when I decide I need a few of a specific chip.
[0:32] <akk> But I bought my resistor collection, ceramic cap collection and electrolytic cap collection all from different ebay vendors, because there wasn't one that had a good example of all three types.
[0:34] <friendofafriend> I hit eBay for modules, radio boards, SPI OLEDs, microcontrollers.
[0:36] <Syliss> i always hate using ebay
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[0:44] <Encrypt> Or: https://fr.rs-online.com/web/p/modules-rf-faible-consommation/7931998/
[0:45] <Encrypt> It's €6.60 per unit on RS, €2.00 per unit on Ebay
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[0:47] <friendofafriend> Absolutely, and you'll see that same kind of pricing with lots of modules.
[0:47] <akk> yes, ebay is wonderful for random small modules like that.
[0:47] <akk> Especially if you're not in a hurry and can wait for slow-boat shipping.
[0:48] <friendofafriend> I hit up Mouser or DigiKey for parts that have problems with counterfeiting, like LED COBs.
[0:49] <akk> And arduinos, I've gotten too many nonworking arduinos off ebay.
[0:49] <friendofafriend> It was tough to get a hold of genuine Samsung LM561Cs, for example. And I don't trust China to give me the right binnings.
[0:50] <friendofafriend> Non-working Arduinos? Geez, of all the things to botch. :P
[0:51] <akk> Particularly the small ones like nanos and pro minis tend not to work.
[0:51] <akk> Sometimes they just need a bootloader flashed, but sometimes the hardware is actually bad.
[0:52] <akk> It's too bad because they're so cheap, would be a great deal if you could be counted on to work.
[0:52] <Encrypt> akk, Oh, really?
[0:53] <Encrypt> I actually plan to buy 10 Pro Minis on Ebay
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[0:54] <Encrypt> akk, That one: https://www.ebay.fr/itm/Pro-Mini-Atmega328-3-3V-8M-Replace-ATmega128-Arduino-Compatible-Nano-New/263045645288
[0:58] <akk> Good luck, maybe you'll be luckier than I have.
[0:58] <ali1234> i wish the arm cortext microcontrollers had better toolchain support. they are half the price of the clone arduinos.
[0:59] <ali1234> but they all need different and huge vendor blobs
[0:59] <ali1234> avr-libc is just so much nicer to work with
[1:02] <Encrypt> Sleeping time, I'll be back tomorrow :)
[1:02] <Encrypt> Have a nice day / good night :)
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[1:07] <akk> I gave up on the clone arduinos and started buying atmega328 chips.
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[1:07] <akk> Not that I actually do much high-volume stuff, but if I ever do, that seems like a reliable option and I can still use avr-gcc.
[1:07] <friendofafriend> akk: With pins or surface mount?
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[1:14] <akk> friendofafriend: Pins. I don't know how to solder SMD, but I can solder or wire-wrap pins.
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[1:15] <friendofafriend> akk: Get 'em while they're hot, word is that the pin packaged ATMega328-PUs were going away.
[1:16] <friendofafriend> Of all the silly things to do to a chip that's being jammed into breadboards across the globe. :P
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[1:17] <akk> friendofafriend: That would be a bummer! Wonder why.
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[1:21] <friendofafriend> I know there were supply problems for a while. I can't find the article talking about them being end-of-life, I think it was some hipster EE company that mentioned it.
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[1:22] <friendofafriend> The SMD part is a flippin' flyspeck, would fit under a 2x2 of pin headers.
[1:24] <akk> If they do discontinue the DIP format, maybe somebody will make little breakout boards with the SMD version.
[1:24] <akk> (though that would be a lot less convenient)
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[8:21] <gordonDrogon> through-hole stuff if going away in-general. it's not just specific parts like the ATmega. Even some older programmable chips (e.g. PAL/GALs) are vanising entorely in favour of CPLDs and FPGA type chips.
[8:22] <gordonDrogon> so when you just want a little bit of "glue" that might be a few simple gates or a GAL, you need to replace it with a much bigger splat of a chip )-:
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[8:23] <gordonDrogon> the up side is that your microwave oven controller is everything on one chip. cpu, io, ram, rom, timers, etc. one chip. the downside is "no user servicable parts inside".
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[8:31] <gordonDrogon> and right now I'm trying to source RAM for a retro computer build - best I can get in the speed I need is 32Kx8 - bigger than that and I need to go SMT but 10 years ago getting 128Kx8 was easy - it was cache ram for various processors.
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[10:07] <morfin> hello
[10:07] <morfin> anybody installed PHP7.1+ on RPI?
[10:08] <morfin> i do not want to use buster because thise won't end well
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[10:18] <BurtyB> not me, I still run 5.6 on my mirror heh
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[10:24] <morfin> well i am builduing it
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[11:08] <Arahael> How do I setup ip masq?
[11:09] <Arahael> I mean, I have a wifi network. I want to have the pi route between the wifi network and the wired network on the pi.
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[11:24] <BurtyB> Arahael, see the "ADD ROUTING AND MASQUERADE" section on https://www.raspberrypi.org/documentation/configuration/wireless/access-point.md replacing "eth0" with "wlan0" depending on the direction you want?
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[11:26] <Arahael> BurtyB: But I don't want to add a dhcpd, nor run an actual access point, I do want to do the bridge section, but in reverse.:(
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[11:29] <Habbie> Arahael, so look at -that section- but use the right interface name for your desired direction
[11:29] <Arahael> Habbie: I suppose I can ignore hostapd?
[11:29] <Habbie> if the wifi already works the way you want it, yes
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[11:31] <Arahael> I can't get past this line:
[11:32] <Arahael> can't add wlan0 to bridge br0: Operation not supported
[11:33] <Arahael> (The command I tried is: sudo brctl addif br0 wlan0 )
[11:39] <Habbie> wait
[11:39] <Habbie> do you want to bridge, or to masquerade
[11:39] <Habbie> or route?
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[11:46] <wuzamarine> how do I kill 1 single ssh process/listening port without bringing the whole sshd service down? https://bpaste.net/show/dad0c86a29e7
[11:47] <BurtyB> wuzamarine, use kill not killall when you're giving it a PID "sudo kill -9 547" should do it
[11:47] <wuzamarine> BurtyB: is their a cleaner method? I need to script this.
[11:48] <wuzamarine> there
[11:48] <wuzamarine> oh, thank you. that got it, btw
[11:48] <BurtyB> wuzamarine, well you're going to bring it down if you're killing the listening process.. wha tis it you're trying to do?
[11:51] <Arahael> Habbie: Anywhichway that gets the wifi network accessible to the box. But I've given up. Now setting up the new computer next to the kitchen sink so I can physically plug it into the upstream router directly.
[11:51] <wuzamarine> BurtyB: I am trying to do exactly "sudo kill -9 547". I wasn't sure if that was the optimum way. I'll be including the action in a script.
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[12:31] <mfa298> Arahael: bridging wifi when it's in client mode doesn't work as it's not something the wifi spec allows for (there re a few proprietry extensions that can but they generlly need ap and bridge devices from the same vendor)
[12:32] <mfa298> you could still do the routing and masquerade setup with the pi running a dhcp server on the eth0 interface
[12:32] <Arahael> mfa298: That explains it!
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[12:46] <Alina-malina> is there a whatsup or viber solution for rpi exist?
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[13:06] <friendofafriend> Alina-malina: For Whatsapp, https://github.com/Enrico204/Whatsapp-Desktop/
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[13:07] <friendofafriend> And it looks like Viber has DEB/RPM packages at the bottom of their download page.
[13:08] <friendofafriend> But real friends use IRC. ^_^
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[13:28] <Alina-malina> lol ye i agree, its more for contacting enemies
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[15:51] <odites> Hi to everyone! I would use a raspberry pi 3 to share my internet connection (from wlan0) to my static lan (eth0 with static 192.168.1.150). I follow this guide (https://raspberrypi.stackexchange.com/questions/48307/sharing-the-pis-wifi-connection-through-the-ethernet-port at first comment) but it doesn't work.
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[15:51] <odites> I tried with no-dhcp-interface but nothing change. I don't want to have a dhcp server on my eth0. My resolv.conf has dynamic configuration: Have I to replace it?
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[16:07] <larsks> odites: fwiw, the script linked from that answer seems like an awful idea. When you say "it doesn't work", what exactly isn't working?
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[16:15] <odites> @larsks: it produces "Job for dnsmasq.service failed"
[16:15] <larsks> Okay. So the obvious first step is to figure out why that failed. What does "journalctl -u dnsmasq.service" tell you?
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[16:16] <odites> @larsks: https://bpaste.net/show/da7ec366f202
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[16:27] <BurtyB> if you can start again I probably would :) - then setup the wlan connection, static IP for eth0 in dhcpcd.conf (with no gw), setup NAT with iptables and enable forwarding in sysctl.conf,install iptables-persistent but that might just be me...
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[16:40] <odites> BurtyB: i don't understand... Is not dnsmasq necessary?
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[16:48] <larsks> odites: sorry, had to take off for a meeting. That wasn't a very helpful log, was it. I agree with BurtyB about starting over. You only need dnsmasq if you need to provide dhcp service to your network; it doesn't have anything to with passing network traffic.
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[16:51] <odites> larsks: I thank you for clarifying me this point! On my client pc I don't have resolv.conf configured. Is it alright?
[16:52] <larsks> odites: you need that if you expect to be able to resolve hostnames. If you're just using ip addresses, then you can live without it.
[16:53] <odites> Ok! Could I use my "favorite" dns (like 8.8.8.8) or it need to be the same of server?
[16:55] <larsks> No, that should work.
[16:56] <larsks> Double check that you can reach it, of course (ping 8.8.8.8)
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[17:19] <Error451> I am wanting to get a RasPi3 3B+ with a HiFiBerry DAC+ Pro HAT .. with Kodi
[17:19] <Error451> anybody here who did anything similar and should I expect tweaking ?
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[17:27] <H__> Error451: I use that. works great
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[17:28] <Error451> nice .. ty H__
[17:28] <H__> pifi-digi-pi-hat and a minix-a2-lite-flymouse
[17:29] <H__> has a convenient keyboard on the backside
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[17:31] <Error451> heh .. it seems you use digital outputs only, but I never heard of the product, so then the question shifts to :
[17:31] <Error451> did you have a hard time cetting up Kodi for your setup
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[17:32] <Error451> *setting
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[17:32] <shauno> I used an older digi+ (not pro) with it too. no problems at all. also used it the other way around (so hifiberry for audio systemwide *except* kodi) with no problems either
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[17:34] <shauno> just follow hifiberry's instructions so there's a driver loaded for it. then if it's the default device it'll just work, if it's not the default device you can select it through kodi's settings gui
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[17:51] <H__> Error451: setting up kodi was very easy. spdif sound works great.
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[19:01] <bazul> hello
[19:01] <bazul> anyone tried that dvb tuner for the pi?
[19:02] <bazul> i have one and was thinking if it was worth trying it on the zero
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[19:08] * BurtyB has one on a pizero it works in a round about way with tvheadend streaming to vlc on a windows
[19:10] <TheNik> In a running Python script, is it possible to start a timer at some point and get the elapsed time in milliseconds or microseconds at another point? E.g. measure the precise time between line a and line b being executed? It does not even have to be correct, but at least linear and consistent.
[19:16] <larsks> TheNik: Sure. Just get the value of time.time() at point A, then again at point B, and use math.
[19:16] <larsks> ...unless you've tried that and found it to not meet your needs.
[19:17] <larsks> There are other methods in the time module that may provider higher resolution (e.g., time.time_ns).
[19:17] <TheNik> Nanoseconds is a bit excessive
[19:18] <larsks> Take your pick, man. I'm just laying out the options.
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[19:18] <TheNik> Let me try it. If I understand how it works correctly, then my last concern is that time.time() itself does not take too much time to execute
[19:18] <TheNik> No, I am not complaining, just providing extra info. Thank you very much for the advice :D
[19:19] <gordonDrogon> you're running a pre-emptively multi-tasking, multi-user operating system - you're never going to read the same thing twice.
[19:20] <TheNik> Read the same thing twice?
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[19:21] <Fulgen> yep
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[19:21] <TheNik> If you are referring to the consistency statement of mine, I meant it in a different sense
[19:21] <Fulgen> even assert time.time() == time.time() raises an error
[19:21] <Fulgen> (obviously, it's python)
[19:21] <TheNik> Consistent as in the linear factor does not vary between program runs, if there are any hacks that would provide some sort of linear timing, but not consistent
[19:22] <TheNik> Anyway, nevermind that part.
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[19:24] <TheNik> Looks like time.time() does the trick.
[19:26] <TheNik> If I interpret timeit.timeit('time.time()') == 10.989209098999709 correctly, then one call takes about 11 us, which is well within margins
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[20:02] <Apocx_> PiShop just shipped something I ordered over a month ago. I forgot I had even ordered it lol
[20:03] <Khaytsus> I've gotten stuff from China that I didn't remember ordering.
[20:03] <Khaytsus> 6-8 weeks later
[20:04] <Apocx_> well yeah China you kind of expect that
[20:05] <Apocx_> PiShop has usually been pretty good though, couple days
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[20:05] <Khaytsus> Most chinaboat stuff I've gotten is <3 weeks
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[20:05] <Khaytsus> In fact.. sometimes it's <2w
[20:05] <Apocx_> ah nice
[20:06] <Apocx_> the rare times I order from china I fully expect it to take months
[20:06] <Khaytsus> Which makes me think it's not really order->pack in china->ship from china.... mor elike order->local warehouse
[20:06] <Apocx_> yeah could be
[20:06] <Khaytsus> I've ordered some antennas 3 times off ebay.. they never get here
[20:06] <Khaytsus> They keep giving them to me for free
[20:06] <Khaytsus> So.. Maybe one day
[20:06] <Apocx_> lol
[20:06] <Khaytsus> I'll get like.. four packages of antennas
[20:07] <Khaytsus> Good thing is, of 16 antennas, at least 4 should be pretty good!
[20:07] <Apocx_> true heh
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[21:45] <g105b> gordonDrogon: good evening! I wrote a small test with the gpio command line utility to increment the brightness of an LED strip (using mosfet transistor). Works nicely, but I notice that as I run something like ```for i in `seq 1 1023`; do gpio pwm 1 $i; sleep 0.5; done``` the fade isn't very linear. Is there anything I can do to help this fade more smoothly?
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[21:46] <Khaytsus> g105b: You sure that the input values are resulting in a linear fade? Most likely not
[21:46] <Khaytsus> So it's not a question of technique.... it's a question of values.
[21:46] <Khaytsus> I bet there isn't 1024 values
[21:47] <g105b> Khaytsus: there are 1024 mentioned on the gpio library's documentation page: http://wiringpi.com/the-gpio-utility/
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[21:47] <Khaytsus> .... your led strip
[21:48] <Khaytsus> It's changing the voltage output I would assume
[21:48] <Khaytsus> erm, pwm I guess
[21:48] <Khaytsus> But that's going to be specific to whatever device really
[21:48] <g105b> Khaytsus: how do you mean, specific to devices?
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[21:48] <Khaytsus> led strip A will not have the same linearity as strip B.
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[21:50] <g105b> Khaytsus: OK, I bought a standalone PWM controlled by an analogue signal. I controlled it via an Arduino (no analogue on pi) and it I observed linear fade. Using PWM from the Pi's pin observes non-linear fade ... the graph would be lumpy, not log or curved.
[21:51] <Khaytsus> So again, I think you'll have to figure out what that is for that particular device
[21:52] <g105b> Khaytsus: same LED strip, different PWM controller.
[21:52] <Khaytsus> ...
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[21:53] <g105b> My thoughts were that gpio command line library is using software PWM "emulation" rather than hardware timed, so the pi could be configured badly. But I know the pi has at least one or two hardware PWM pins and I wondered if the gpio library could be configured to use the hardware timer?
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[22:02] <amino_> hello guyz, is there a way to advertise writable data (Bluetooth Low Energy) using bluetoothctl in order to send data from and android app ?
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[22:04] <gordonDrogon> Khaytsus, there are as many values as in the range register, so yes, by default there are 1024 values.
[22:04] <gordonDrogon> however as we all know, brightness isn't linear.
[22:04] <gordonDrogon> so typically you'd need to apply gamma correction and other maths like that.
[22:05] <gordonDrogon> g105b, and the command-line is using the hardware - no emulation.
[22:06] <gordonDrogon> you may want to change the pwm mode, but really the default mode is arguably better. try gpio pwm-ms
[22:06] <g105b> gordonDrogon: ok thanks for the clarification, but how can you explain that using the other pwm chip produced observably linear fades?
[22:06] <gordonDrogon> no, I can't explain that.
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[22:07] <g105b> I will experiment more. Really just wanted to know if the gpio library was using software pwm.
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[22:08] <gordonDrogon> wiringPi;s software PWM only works when a program is running.
[22:08] <gordonDrogon> when the program ends, so does the pwm.
[22:08] <gordonDrogon> so the gpio command can't do software pwm...
[22:08] <gordonDrogon> well - I could make it, then get it to wait until you hit Ctrl-C, but that's somewhat sub-optimal.
[22:09] <g105b> aye, thanks for clarification.
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