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IRC Log for 2018-11-09

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[1:02] <ebol4> I have a USB wifi adapter with the RTL8812au chipset. i compiled the 5.2.20 driver and it is mostly working, but only for 5GHz.
[1:02] <ebol4> when i do a scan, no 2.4GHz SSIDs appear
[1:03] <ebol4> am i missing something obvious?
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[1:06] <ebol4> `iwlist <interface> frequency` shows that all the normal 2.4GHz and 5GHz channels are available
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[1:22] <ebol4> i have found this regarding the kernel module option "RTW_CHANNEL_PLAN" https://github.com/abperiasamy/rtl8812AU_8821AU_linux/issues/225
[1:23] <ebol4> but i can't seem to find any resolution
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[2:30] <X230t> Hey guys, having a little trouble connecting my pi to wifi, ideally it would connect via the 802.1x network (eduroam), but the WPA2(ResNet) can be used as a backup. Here's some info: https://hastebin.com/xivoqamipa.bashlog
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[2:33] <friendofafriend> What's in your wpa_supplicant.conf ?
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[2:35] <X230t> https://hastebin.com/wufofoyose.makefile
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[2:36] <X230t> Obviously obfuscated the key
[2:36] <friendofafriend> My plan is foiled.
[2:37] <friendofafriend> That's where you'd set up authentication using 802.1x.
[2:37] <X230t> I'd much rather have EduRoam working
[2:38] <friendofafriend> Yeah, probably a setup like this. https://www.scivision.co/connecting-to-boston-universitys-802-1x-wifi-from-a-linux-device/
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[2:38] <X230t> I've got a script that's supposed to auto-configure it but it doesn't work and I don't know why
[2:38] <X230t> I miss having a gui
[2:39] <friendofafriend> You could probably get your WPA2 network working fine with raspi-config.
[2:40] <X230t> That's what I tried
[2:40] <X230t> It doesn't work
[2:40] <X230t> I don't know why
[2:40] <X230t> That wpa_supplicant was generated by raspi-config
[2:41] <friendofafriend> That's odd. Usually there's a key_mgmt and scan_ssid line in that config.
[2:41] <X230t> I think that's because the interface isn't named wlan0
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[2:44] <friendofafriend> X230t: Mine looks something like this. https://paste.debian.net/plain/1051028
[2:44] <methuzla> try adding a scan_ssid=1 to the network stanza
[2:45] <Snert> I'd temporarily turn off WPA2 and make the wireless totally open. After connecting...disconnect and re-invoke WPA2.
[2:45] <friendofafriend> Not his AP, Snert.
[2:45] <Snert> what kind is it?
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[2:46] <Snert> even a pi can be set to open wireless.
[2:46] <X230t> That works
[2:46] <X230t> methuzla: That's got it
[2:46] <X230t> Snert: It's not my wireless network
[2:47] <friendofafriend> Neat-o, if you're looking to do 802.1x auth, you configure it in the same config file.
[2:47] <X230t> I'm aware, just couldn't get it to work when I tried
[2:48] <X230t> I don't know the exact parameters, they don't like giving us all the info
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[2:48] <friendofafriend> And if you've got a script that's supposed to configure it for you, just cat it and figure out what it's doing. There's probably a happy little config file for you inside.
[2:49] <friendofafriend> Hooray, your Pi's on the WLAN. :)
[2:50] <friendofafriend> I'm kind of guessing that "eduroam" network is this. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Eduroam
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[2:51] <friendofafriend> And if that hunch is correct, this repo might interest you. https://github.com/oleks/eduroam-wpa_supplicant
[2:52] <X230t> How do I set priority?
[2:52] <friendofafriend> But there you'll find the contributor refers you back to the "Configuration Assistant Tool" from the eduroam website, which he claims will generate the proper wpa_supplicant.conf itself.
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[2:52] <friendofafriend> Priority? What do you mean?
[2:52] <X230t> friendofafriend: I want to use eduroam where available
[2:52] <X230t> Yeah, CAT is here: https://www.bangor.ac.uk/itservices/wireless-connections/eduroam-linux-Bangor_University.sh
[2:56] <friendofafriend> Sweet, you'll find the format of your wpa_supplicant.conf file on lines 457-468.
[2:56] <X230t> I set the priority, but it's still connecting to ResNet
[2:58] <friendofafriend> Yeah, you'd have to restart wpa_supplicant for change to take effect.
[2:58] <X230t> I rebooted
[2:58] <friendofafriend> And adding the eduroam network requires a certificate. Did you run that script?
[3:00] <X230t> I did, yes
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[3:00] <X230t> I've selected the eduroam network with "wpa_cli select_network", but now the wifi card is "unassociated"
[3:00] <X230t> I'm assuming it failed to connect?
[3:01] <friendofafriend> Indeed.
[3:02] <X230t> Why?
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[3:02] <friendofafriend> Unassociated is just the result, not how it got there.
[3:02] <X230t> How do I find out why?
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[3:03] <friendofafriend> You could stop the wpa_supplicant service and call the program directly.
[3:05] <X230t> How?
[3:05] <X230t> (Sorry for being such a n00b)
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[3:08] <friendofafriend> Do a "ps xau | grep wpa_supp", find the PID, "sudo kill <PID>", then something like: sudo wpa_supplicant -Dwext -i<interface> -c/etc/wpa_supplicant/wpa_supplicant.conf
[3:09] <X230t> root 307 0.3 0.9 10124 4072 ? Ss 01:55 0:03 wpa_supplicant -B -c/etc/wpa_supplicant/wpa_supplicant.conf -iwlx000b6a2245ff -Dnl80211,wext
[3:09] <X230t> That's the line I need right?
[3:10] <friendofafriend> Right, so you'd be doing a "sudo kill 307".
[3:10] <X230t> Done
[3:10] <X230t> Do I want to run "wpa_supplicant -B -c/etc/wpa_supplicant/wpa_supplicant.conf -iwlx000b6a2245ff -Dnl80211,wext"
[3:10] <friendofafriend> And then running "wpa_supplicant -d -c/etc/wpa_supplicant/wpa_supplicant.conf -iwlx000b6a2245ff -Dnl80211,wext".
[3:11] <friendofafriend> The -B will put the process in the background, so you'll want to leave that out.
[3:11] <friendofafriend> And the -d will give you debugging information.
[3:13] <friendofafriend> Even without the -d, you should get some helpful information.
[3:15] <X230t> https://hastebin.com/xavurumebi.makefile
[3:15] <friendofafriend> You'll need to put a sudo in front of that line.
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[3:25] <X230t> friendofafriend: https://hastebin.com/afadehurut.makefile
[3:28] <X230t> Going for a cig, lemme know if you figure it out
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[3:33] <friendofafriend> X230t: Would you post the wpa_supplicant.conf you ended up with?
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[3:34] <X230t> If I could find it
[3:35] <friendofafriend> It's /etc/wpa_supplicant/wpa_supplicant.conf , like on your command line.
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[3:35] <X230t> friendofafriend: Yeah, I was in the wrong terminal :')
[3:36] <X230t> friendofafriend: https://hastebin.com/mixipevura.makefile
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[3:39] <friendofafriend> When you do a "ps xau| grep -i wpa", is the wpa_supplicant process still running? There's a lot of "Operation already in progress" messages in that debug output.
[3:40] <X230t> pi 570 0.0 0.4 4364 2084 ttyAMA0 S+ 02:40 0:00 grep --color=auto -i wpa
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[3:43] <friendofafriend> In the second stanza, you might try adding a scan_ssid=1, like the first stanza.
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[3:55] <X230t> https://hastebin.com/gehozudaje.makefile
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[3:59] <X230t> Think I'm just gonna have to stick with resnet for now
[4:01] <X230t> No
[4:01] <X230t> Wait
[4:01] <X230t> I got it!
[4:01] <X230t> friendofafriend: Turns out it wasn't respecting priority
[4:01] <X230t> It's connected to eduroam now!
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[4:02] <X230t> I guess I should image this SD card so I don't have to faff again
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[4:07] <friendofafriend> Hooray!
[4:07] <friendofafriend> More than anything, you'll want to back up your wpa_supplicant.conf and that certificate file in your /root/ directory.
[4:10] <phinxy> X230t: Is the Raspberry your everyday computer?
[4:10] <X230t> phinxy: Thankfully no
[4:10] <X230t> My fleet of X230ts are
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[4:10] <X230t> friendofafriend: I've got the image, I can just reflash if I need to
[4:10] <phinxy> Thinkpad?
[4:10] <X230t> phinxy: Correct
[4:11] <X230t> This particular pi0 is actually getting a HDMI to VGA adapter added, and the audio of that routed to speakers, I'll then use a modified version of librespot such that I can cast music to it from my phone
[4:11] <X230t> Pretty nifty one-wire solution imo
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[4:28] <ghostboarder> guys, i am having fun with docker on my rpi3/raspbian lite, but i am coming across apps that say "simply type these commands" (ie. Convos IRC server), and not all of the commands seem to make sense syntax wise
[4:30] <ghostboarder> i have run through a bunch of tuts but obviously i am not getting the feel for docker i expected. I attempted to run the same install as a snap, but NetSSLEay dependency fails
[4:30] <ghostboarder> sorry, as curl
[4:30] <ghostboarder> brb
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[4:38] <friendofafriend> You might try asking in #docker, and I'm sure you'll get clarification there.
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[4:56] <Khaytsus> If you think of docker like a chroot, it's not difficult. It's _not_ a vm for sure.
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[5:09] <ghostboarder> friendofafriend, gotcha
[5:10] <ghostboarder> having said that, i have again also tried curl, which one would expect to be pretty smooth, with the above error
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[5:13] <Khaytsus> What error?
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[6:13] <ghostboarder> Khaytsus, NetSSLeay. For some reason i think i was assuming that i could use any of the install methods mentioned on a p
[6:13] <ghostboarder> pi
[6:14] <ghostboarder> ill make a statement about what i am looking to do. I want to run a persistent IRC client (ie Hexchat) on a server that i connect and disconnect to at will. I would like to do this on a pi
[6:15] <ghostboarder> a pi zero would be best as it would be lightweight and this would be its only task
[6:16] <ghostboarder> i am seeing people doing this with Screen and IRSSI. I dabbled in this before, and it looks like i might have to go back to it
[6:16] <ghostboarder> which isnt all bad, it was a little wierd to get used to, especially with undocking chat windows, but it worked surprisingly well. I was just looking for a more full featured option
[6:17] <ghostboarder> brb
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[6:21] <ghostboarder> there we go
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[7:06] <friendofafriend> I like xpra for that sort of thing.
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[7:42] <ghostboarder> friendofafriend, thx man, will check out :)
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[8:34] <bazul> hi
[8:34] <gordonDrogon> morning.
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[8:46] <bazul> anyone use blynk in the raspberry pi?
[8:48] <bazul> or zeroborg
[8:48] <bazul> :|
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[8:49] <bazul> i want to control my motors via the blynk app
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[9:09] <bazul> hmm i think i found nice python libraries :D
[9:15] <bazul> python i love you
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[9:52] <pavlushka> bazul: surely python loves you too :)
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[10:24] <malh> Hey guys. I'm trying to flip the screen upside down with lcd_rotate=2, but nothing happens. Anybody have an idea?
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[10:36] <gordonDrogon> no idea, but it's working OK for me with the Pi 7" LCD ..
[10:36] <gordonDrogon> it's an older jessie install though.
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[10:38] <friendofafriend> Is your LCD attached by HDMI, malh?
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[10:44] <malh> friendofafriend: I have tried both with hdmi and a touch display directly connected on the gpio pins
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[10:55] <shiftplusone> Smithe: did your problem get fixed?
[10:59] <malh> If you're asking me, no :D
[11:03] <gordonDrogon> malh, are you using the OpenGL driver?
[11:04] <malh> gordonDrogon: Not sure, how do I check?
[11:04] <gordonDrogon> this thread may help: https://www.raspberrypi.org/forums/viewtopic.php?t=180407
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[11:06] <malh> gordonDrogon: Right now my odtoverlay is tft35a
[11:06] <malh> dt*
[11:07] <malh> I guess it's something created by a script in LCD-show I cloned from github
[11:07] <gordonDrogon> on of those posts suggests that the rotate only works with the official 7" display...
[11:07] <malh> Hmm true
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[11:15] <malh> dtoverlay=tft9341:rotate=270 works for me
[11:15] <malh> dtoverlay=tft35a:rotate=value
[11:16] <gordonDrogon> I guess that's a parameter to the particular display you're using...
[11:16] <malh> 90 is default horizontal, 270 is upside down
[11:16] <malh> Probably the driver, I found the solution here: https://github.com/goodtft/LCD-show/issues/34
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[11:17] <malh> It's just a cheap chinese tft screen
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[11:25] <gordonDrogon> ok
[11:25] <gordonDrogon> they have had issues in the past with getting the drivers to work as the kernels get upgated, but I think there's now an effort to unify them all - or at least make a common driver for them - possibly that's it?
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[11:33] <friendofafriend> Sheesh, I've still got a 2.4" TFT around here that I never got working. It's parallel.
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[11:34] <friendofafriend> Got it with some Arduino kit, I think it's an ILI9341.
[11:34] <gordonDrogon> I once did a parallel interface for a 128x64 LCD ...
[11:35] <friendofafriend> Did you? This one had a touch interface that broke, so I don't need the pins for the touchscreen.
[11:35] <gordonDrogon> https://youtu.be/JBtS35qPmeo
[11:35] <friendofafriend> And I guess it's 8-bits, but the documentation is completely baffling. My little SPI OLED was a breeze.
[11:36] <gordonDrogon> I did a project with a 16-bit interface OLED, but that was on a PIC not a Pi.
[11:36] <friendofafriend> Well done on the video, there. What a wiring nightmare it looks like!
[11:37] <friendofafriend> I can get this ILI9341's backlight to power on, but otherwise nothing.
[11:39] <gordonDrogon> that's not a wiring nightmare.
[11:39] <gordonDrogon> This is a wiring nightmare: https://unicorn.drogon.net/IMG_20181030_093516.jpg
[11:40] <gordonDrogon> (although nothing to do with Pi)
[11:42] <shiftplusone> That's not that bad
[11:42] <friendofafriend> Nice breadboard! That really doesn't look so bad. It's really the software side of dealing with the Pi and its wiring that I'm never super jazzed to do.
[11:42] <shiftplusone> Unless of course the breadboard is bad and wires intermittently lose connections
[11:42] <gordonDrogon> yea, it could have been worse, but I stopped the project at that point and moved to stripboard.
[11:43] <gordonDrogon> https://unicorn.drogon.net/IMG_20181108_130327.jpg is the stripboard version.
[11:43] <shiftplusone> Some people also like to use solid core wire cut to length to make everything neat
[11:44] <gordonDrogon> the breadboard version was ok, but not that stable at higher frequencies.
[11:44] <gordonDrogon> yea, you need to do that to get anything stable above about 1Mhz - keep the wires short, etc.
[11:45] <gordonDrogon> it's a 65c02 system. The stripboard version currently runs at 16Mhz which is faster than the 6502 is rated for, but it's very stable.
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[12:05] <friendofafriend> Breadboards with solid core is OK, but it's kind of hard to get the lengths perfect.
[12:05] <friendofafriend> And then you're stuck with a whole bunch of solid core wires, like a bag of staples, afterward.
[12:06] <ShorTie> just takes time
[12:06] <friendofafriend> Which, along with money, I've got a real shortage of. :(
[12:06] <ShorTie> but not hard
[12:07] <friendofafriend> Tedious, time consuming, difficult as you'll sometimes undershoot and have to do it again. I don't think "hard" is a terrible description.
[12:08] <friendofafriend> And worse, they're not very easily reused, where a friendly jumper wire has plenty of extra length.
[12:11] <ShorTie> wire is easy, try 1/4" steel tubing
[12:14] <friendofafriend> I leave that up to dudes with metal splinters that listen to Pantera.
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[12:40] <gordonDrogon> I know of someone who uses cat-5 cable for breadboard connects.
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[12:48] <ShorTie> i use wire wrap wire normally
[12:49] <gordonDrogon> I used to, but no-longer have the nice electric wire-wrap gun I once had ...
[12:49] <gordonDrogon> http://unicorn.drogon.net/6502back.jpg
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[12:50] <H__> art
[12:50] <gordonDrogon> that's one way of putting it :)
[12:50] <ShorTie> don't have none of the toys for it
[12:50] <gordonDrogon> like those old 70's things with the strings tied round nails ...
[12:50] <ShorTie> stripping is a pain with diaginals
[12:51] <gordonDrogon> the electric tool I had did all that - you just fed it wire, put it over the pin, pulled the trigger and bingo.
[12:51] <gordonDrogon> I did lots of wire-wrap stuff many (many!) years ago.
[12:52] <gordonDrogon> just realised this year is my 40th anniversary of first programming a computer too.
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[12:53] <gordonDrogon> partly why I'm re-creating a 6502 project. it's 40 years since I first programmed a 6502 in machine code.
[12:53] <gordonDrogon> how time flies.
[12:54] <ShorTie> Cool, congrades
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[12:57] <H__> gordonDrogon: 40th anniversary, nice. I did assembly on the 6510 33 years ago. Some years to go for me:)
[13:00] <gordonDrogon> on the C64?
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[13:08] <bazul> nice
[13:08] <bazul> my car is going to work
[13:08] <bazul> joystick control with esp32
[13:09] <bazul> controls motors via blynk
[13:09] <bazul> now to install a laser in a pan tilt thinggie
[13:09] <bazul> so i can point laser at stuff
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[13:13] <H__> yes C64
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[13:16] <gordonDrogon> bazul, your car probably has a 6502 inside the radio ;-)
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[13:16] <gordonDrogon> why do you have a laser on your car???
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[13:24] <shiftplusone> Maybe bazul plans on getting Musk to fire it into space so he can play Elite with it?
[13:24] <gordonDrogon> pew pew pew ...
[13:27] <Smithe> shiftplusone, yeah now it creates packages well
[13:27] <shiftplusone> excellent
[13:28] <bazul> it's a tiny car
[13:28] <bazul> gordonDrogon not a real car
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[13:28] <bazul> i have the pan & tilt hat
[13:28] <bazul> going to put a laser there
[13:29] <bazul> already has a streaming camera
[13:29] <bazul> yay
[13:29] <bazul> then i'm going to put some sensors in it
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[13:29] <ShorTie> push button to turn it on/off ??
[13:30] <shiftplusone> Makes perfect sense. What else would you put on a pan and tilt HAT.
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[13:31] <Smithe> shiftplusone, do you know something about samba/samba-pam-passwd? I want to set a system so that when an user change his password with passwd it changes samba password as well. There's this page but it was answered when there was a pam-smbpassword module https://askubuntu.com/questions/153893/samba-and-user-acount-passwords
[13:32] <shiftplusone> No, I don't know much about samba at all. I tend to just copy-paste stuff to get it working without fully understanding what all the options do, which I normally advise people against.
[13:32] <Smithe> lol
[13:32] <bazul> shiftplusone : what should i put there
[13:32] <bazul> if not a laser
[13:32] <bazul> i have a smart camera of sorts
[13:33] <bazul> that also has pan & tilt
[13:33] <bazul> but haven't managed to make it work
[13:33] <shiftplusone> Hey, I have nothing against lasers.
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[13:34] <bazul> i have to thing of a better power supply though
[13:34] <gordonDrogon> haha.. toy car... great!
[13:35] <ShorTie> just don't know if i'd leave the lazor on all the time
[13:35] <gordonDrogon> there are great little laser diodes you can get now. just make sure it's < 0.5mW
[13:36] <gordonDrogon> well, if can be more, but remember the golden rule: Do not look into laser with remaining good eye.
[13:39] <bazul> the laser i'm buying can be turned on and off
[13:39] <bazul> can even use it for wireless comunication
[13:39] <bazul> comunication via laser :D
[13:41] <gordonDrogon> what will they think of next :)
[13:44] <shiftplusone> maybe they'll stick at the end of some kind of a transparent flexible tube... They could call it "optical fibre".
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[13:58] <gordonDrogon> it'll never catch on ...
[13:59] <gordonDrogon> actually the whole laser stuff (aka free space optics) is fraught with hazards - fog/rain is one. spiders warming themselves on the lenses is another, then - the thing that point to point radio links win out on is top of tall buildings ... the buildings sway so much it causes the lasers to go off target...
[14:05] <shiftplusone> Hmm... So it could be re-purposed. When the signal is lost, crank up the power. Sounds like a good spider control device.
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[14:08] <friendofafriend> Spiders warming themselves on the lenses? Learn something new every day. Are spiders really that chilly?
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[14:09] <gordonDrogon> hey, free warmth - what's not to like!
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[14:10] <bazul> if i can import the blynk python libraries to flow (m5stack) i will be very happy
[14:10] <bazul> :D
[14:10] <shiftplusone> also, they have more eyes to spare
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[14:17] <bazul> i have no fear of spiders
[14:17] <bazul> i'll hit them with the laser and fry them
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[14:19] <shiftplusone> Until they evolve laser resistance and then you'll just make the problem worse.
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[14:23] <friendofafriend> Lord of the Flies would have been a lot less gross with more spiders.
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[14:25] <shiftplusone> I don't remember flies being the main problem in that book. Piggy would still get crushed by the rock.
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[14:27] <audiofile> hi, anyone here has been able to use pivpn with pihole?
[14:28] <friendofafriend> Gosh, still working at that?
[14:30] <friendofafriend> Maybe this will help? https://discourse.pi-hole.net/t/pihole-with-openvpn-the-easy-way-use-pivpn/7912
[14:32] <audiofile> hehe friendofafriend the last history from this chan for me is you helping me out with this on 13 Aug 2018 :P
[14:32] <audiofile> seems straightforward enough thanks
[14:33] <friendofafriend> You're very welcome, audiofile. My day is complete, I remembered something for once. :P
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[17:38] <t55e> I see a few products for powering a raspberry pi via power over ethernet (PoE) but I am curious if one can do the opposite and have the pi be a power sourcing equipment device?
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[17:41] <hodapp> as in, have a Pi be a PoE injector?
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[17:44] <t55e> yes
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[17:49] <t55e> hodapp, not sure of all the correct terms but yes I am loking for the pi to provide the power. I have a mini wifi access point that is powred by PoE and thought I could make a small private wifi network with a pi and the wifi acess point
[17:50] <t55e> s/acess/access
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[18:06] <t55e> hodapp, have you heard of anyone turning a pi into a poe injector?
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[18:15] <Error451> I gues in theory it would be possible to put a PoE HAT on a 3B+ and power something over USB
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[18:15] <Error451> but iirc you can only draw 0.5 A on a port
[18:16] <shauno> I think you'd just use a separate injector for that? like https://www.amazon.co.uk/dp/B00ENNUWO4/ (not a recommendation, just the cheapest result I saw)
[18:17] <Error451> yeah ... RPi PoE HATs have been sold out about 3 mins after release
[18:17] <Error451> and they're like €45 or something
[18:18] <Error451> and IIRC they only work with the 3B+
[18:20] <Error451> anyway ... that's not why i came in here
[18:20] <shiftplusone> Error451: the problem wasn't that they sold out, but that they were faulty and withdrawn from sale.
[18:20] <Error451> I came to report back on my Hifiberry thing : I *finally* got the thing to work
[18:20] <shauno> using the pi as a source would be messy, 48V from a 5v source would mean you get up getting 200mA out of a 2A budget (ignoring losses, reality, etc)
[18:20] <Error451> apparently it got dislodged
[18:21] <Error451> now working fine, just low volume level, prolly an internal mixer level preset
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[18:24] <t55e> shauno, that makes sense. For my requirements I need 24V at 0.5A.
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[18:28] <shiftplusone> You want to draw 12W from a device that has a power supply that's 12.5W
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[18:37] <shauno> I think it's fair to say this might not be the tool for the job. the good news is if it really demands poe, an injector can be cheap & cheerful
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[19:02] <hodapp> if I ever design a PoE device, I'm naming it Edgar Allan.
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[19:12] <t55e> It was an spur-of-the-moment idea focused more on weight. I can do something with a Intel NUC, 8 port PoE switch and the mini access point but for easy portablity I was wondering if I could drive an even smaller design.
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[19:31] <chris_99> haha hodapp
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[19:51] <Encrypt> Hello everyone!
[19:51] <Encrypt> I don't know if a few of you have a Waveshare screen
[19:51] <Encrypt> I've just found that: https://www.waveshare.com/w/upload/5/56/PWM_control_backlight_manual.pdf
[19:52] <Encrypt> Excellent! :D
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[20:16] <t55e> Thanks for the help all
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[21:15] <geosmin> quick question, is there a maximum cable length when connectig gpio to an LCD screen?
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[21:16] <geosmin> also is there some nomenclature to distinguish LCD as in something like a calculator screen vs something like a PC screen?
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[21:20] <stiv> LCD (liquid crystal display) describes the technology that makes the little dots on the screen. pc vs calculator is resolution and color and speed
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[21:23] <ebol4> i rpi-update'd to branch=NEXT, and now I'm on kernel 4.19. Where do I get the kernel headers so I can compile modules?
[21:23] <ebol4> specifically "4.19.1-v7+"
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[21:49] <ShorTie> extract them from the kernel ??
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[22:12] <ebol4> alright boys mission accomplished
[22:12] <ebol4> now we've got bigger problems
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[22:13] <ebol4> I'm getting "wpa_supplicant[9954]: wlan0: Association request to the driver failed
[22:13] <ebol4> when i try to connect to any SSIDs using a usb wifi dongle with the realtek 8812au chipset
[22:14] <ebol4> i've compiled several different versions of the kernel driver for that chipset, all of them have issues
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[22:19] <gordonDrogon> geosmin, if it's an SPI type LCD then the maximum length is about zero. really - you want it sitting right on-top of the Pi to make sure the SPI speed is good.
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[22:51] <geosmin> gordonDrogon: damn, alright thanks.
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[23:33] <bazul> hmmm
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[23:38] <bazul> there should be an easier way to send files to micropython thinggies
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[23:40] <ShorTie> micropython thinggies ??
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[23:44] <Cthulhux> hi! :-) does the newest RPi have a maximum capacity for sd cards? because i consider buying one with a 200 gb SDHC card and i wonder if it would work.
[23:44] <bazul> yeah
[23:44] <bazul> ShorTie i want to upload some stuff to a esp32 with micropython
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[23:44] <bazul> blynk libraries
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