#raspberrypi IRC Log

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IRC Log for 2018-11-12

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[0:16] <BCMM> X230t: not pi-specific, but a good explanation of the issues around wireless "bridging" https://wiki.debian.org/BridgeNetworkConnections#Bridging_with_a_wireless_NIC
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[2:05] <shauno> gordonDrogon: it's alive! and blinking. and running some ancient BSD. I'm sure I had v
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[2:06] <shauno> ... had v7 on simh before, so I wanna dig that up .. some other day
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[3:03] <audiofile> hi, in my pivpn's /var/log/openvpn.log I get `UDPv4 link local (bound): [AF_INET][undef]:1194` does that undef sound like an error?
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[3:35] <zap0> any suggestions on what is good analogue input solution for a pi-zero ?
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[4:20] <adempus> Is there a way to make a drone controllable over relatively long distances?
[4:20] <adempus> I mean at home?
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[4:28] <stiv> free space laser link
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[4:39] <larsks> adempus: using a cellular modem of some sort?
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[5:01] <adempus> Cell modem? U mean a cell device?
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[5:17] <larsks> adempus: I'm not sure what you mean by "a cell device". I mean a cellular modem: a device for transmitting data using the same technology as your cell phone. You can get good distance, although possibly higher latency. There are also things like the devices from dragonlink (http://www.dragonlinkrc.com/). Depending on what you mean by "long distances", a standard radio control link may even be fine.
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[5:50] <yu99ie> Anyone here use NetBSD on your pi?
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[6:55] <mlelstv> I do
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[7:37] <Voop> what's the recommended method of communication over distances around 100'?
[7:37] <Voop> maybe closer to 50'
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[7:38] <Voop> i assume some type of RF module
[7:40] <Ben64> ethernet
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[7:43] <Voop> Ben64, i should have specified wireless
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[7:44] <Voop> im going to build a thingy that opens a chicken coup door from inside the house
[7:44] <Voop> im bad at evaluating distance but id say its around 50' maybe a little bit more
[7:44] <Ben64> i'd still say ethernet
[7:45] <Ben64> very reliable
[7:45] <Voop> im not going to run a 50' cable over driveway that people drive cars on
[7:46] <mlelstv> as long as it's only opening the door, it doesn't need to be reliable :)
[7:46] <Voop> might as well attach a string to the door at that point
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[7:47] <Ben64> but the raspberry pi needs power
[7:47] <Ben64> there's already a cable going there
[7:47] <Voop> there's power in the coup
[7:47] <mlelstv> how many people will attack you by opening the chicken coup door? :)
[7:48] <Voop> im sure my chicken coup will end up on shodan
[7:50] <Voop> seriously though, RF? how difficult would it be to add?
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[7:50] <Voop> i might be able to get away with IR which would be less work. not sure if it has that range though
[7:50] <mlelstv> should be simple
[7:50] <Ben64> what just use wifi
[7:51] <Voop> there's no wifi
[7:51] <Ben64> get wifi, then use it
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[7:55] <mlelstv> https://github.com/milaq/rpi-rf
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[7:58] <mlelstv> rf is cheaper and goes over larger distance, but it is insecure, isn't compatible over different countries and there is no standard programming interface.
[7:58] <Ben64> not cheaper
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[8:02] <mlelstv> and don't use too much chicken wire. At least the antenna, wifi or rf, must be on the outside.
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[8:07] <Voop> isnt compatible over different countries?
[8:08] <Voop> and why is too much chicken wire bad
[8:08] <mlelstv> different countries use different RF frequencies
[8:08] <mlelstv> wifi is a world wide standard
[8:09] <mlelstv> and chicken wire can make a faraday cage that shields against RF or Wifi.
[8:10] <mlelstv> it doesn't need to cover it from all sides to have an effect.
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[8:11] <mlelstv> sometimes Ethernet isn't that a bad idea :)
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[8:29] <Voop> mlelstv, why would it matter if different countries use different frequencies if i have a matching transmitter and receiver?
[8:29] <Voop> or are you talking about FCC regs
[8:30] <mlelstv> yes, FCC regs. For you that's probably not relevant unless you want to move and take this to other countries :)
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[10:20] <karathrace> hi
[10:21] <karathrace> can i get a little help to configure my DW 121 wifi dongle?
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[10:29] <friendofafriend> Sure, karathrace. Do you see it when you issue an "lsusb" command?
[10:30] <karathrace> thanks friendofafriend, yes i see the ID 2001:331b D-link Corp
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[10:32] <friendofafriend> Neat, when you do an "iw list", do you see information about your adapter?
[10:32] <karathrace> no, return the prompt
[10:33] <friendofafriend> OK, and when you run the command "ls /lib/firmware/rtlwifi/rtl8188eufw.bin", is there a file found?
[10:34] <karathrace> yes there is
[10:35] <friendofafriend> OK, cool. Do you get a result from "lsmod | grep 8188" ?
[10:35] <karathrace> no, return the prompt
[10:36] <friendofafriend> OK, that device you have in the RTL8188EU chipset, from what I can see here. https://askubuntu.com/questions/1027191/ubuntu-16-04-d-link-n150-pico-wi-fi-adapter-doesnt-work
[10:37] <friendofafriend> is the**
[10:37] <karathrace> i have to follow the guides with green check, right?
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[10:38] <friendofafriend> Yeah, I went ahead and pulled that git repo, built the module, and it results in a .ko file.
[10:39] <friendofafriend> You might also want to install libelf-dev.
[10:39] <friendofafriend> So, the first command would be: sudo apt-get install git dkms libelf-dev
[10:40] <shiftplusone> karathrace: what distro?
[10:40] <karathrace> retropie shiftplusone
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[10:45] <shiftplusone> heads up if you're going via the DKMS route, you'll need to install raspberrypi-kernel-headers first
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[10:46] <shiftplusone> but idk what kernel retropie ships with. If it's not the same as Raspbian, that won't work
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[10:46] <friendofafriend> Weird that he's got the firmware already, but no module.
[10:47] <friendofafriend> Maybe it's just the USB PID missing from the driver.
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[10:48] <karathrace> trying to git clone that link now
[10:49] <karathrace> it asks me password
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[10:51] <friendofafriend> Is the command you're running "git clone https://github.com/jeremyb31/rtl8188eu.git"?
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[10:52] <karathrace> yes now worked
[10:52] <karathrace> i'm waiting for ending
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[11:10] <friendofafriend> Neat, keep us posted on your progress, karathrace.
[11:13] <karathrace> ok now with ifconfing i can see wlan0!
[11:14] <friendofafriend> Hey, that's great news!
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[11:15] <friendofafriend> You can see some more information with "iw list".
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[11:15] <friendofafriend> And if you need to set up the new interface, "sudo raspi-config" makes it very easy.
[11:16] <karathrace> ok let's try
[11:19] <anzipex> Is there any remote access to terminal like tmate?
[11:21] <karathrace> friendofafriend i'm checking interfaces files on networks
[11:23] <friendofafriend> anzipex: tmate seems like a pretty friendly solution. Do you not want to use it?
[11:25] <karathrace> friendofafriend ok, now i'm in raspi-config / connect to wifi network / i can see the list of wireless network and when iI try to connect to mine it works but I see an error on bottom "filed bring up wlan0.etwork"
[11:25] <friendofafriend> Yay! Hey, sounds like you're most of the way there.
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[11:27] <friendofafriend> So, let's try on the terminal typing "sudo ifconfig wlan0 up"
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[11:31] <anzipex> friendofafriend, yes
[11:32] <karathrace> friendofafriend wlan0 has ip address 192.168.0.14 and I'm trying to ping google and all packages have been trasmitted
[11:33] <friendofafriend> karathrace: Sounds like it's working.
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[11:33] <friendofafriend> You might try to restart the Pi, and see if it happens automatically.
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[11:35] <friendofafriend> anzipex: Do you know "screen -S <name>" and "screen -x <name>"?
[11:35] <friendofafriend> There's some good information here: https://www.howtoforge.com/sharing-terminal-sessions-with-tmux-and-screen
[11:37] <karathrace> friendofafriend I just apt-get update and works like a charm
[11:37] <karathrace> check this link, this is my interface file:
[11:37] <karathrace> https://paste.ofcode.org/QmKJuenRiLAnKmvxFffs7k
[11:38] <karathrace> is it correct?
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[11:40] <karathrace> How can I switch from static ip to dynamic ip? 'cause I don't always need to be connected to the router...
[11:41] <friendofafriend> You'd just change the line "iface wlan0 inet manual" to "iface wlan0 inet dhcp".
[11:41] <karathrace> just to have a static ip that could works both with router (if needed) and my cellular app terminus
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[11:42] <friendofafriend> I'm not sure what you mean, exactly. You can set a static IP, but you'll still have to be connected to the router/AP.
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[11:46] <karathrace> I'm using this rapsberry in different houses with different router ip address: (192.168.0.1 and 192.168.1.1) and i wouldn't change the ip everytime i'm in different houses
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[11:47] <gordonDrogon> might be easier to stick to dynamic then put reservations in each router to give yo a 'fixed' IP via the routers dhcp server.
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[11:48] <friendofafriend> Yes, and you will still need an address on those networks, so your IP address will have to change between them.
[11:48] <friendofafriend> For example, you will not be able to keep your 192.168.1.100 address on your 192.168.0.x network.
[11:49] <friendofafriend> (Without changing the network addressing on those networks.)
[11:50] <karathrace> ok, so i keep the things as they are
[11:50] <karathrace> anyway just curiosity, which was mine problem with this wifi dognle? the module was not installed?
[11:53] <friendofafriend> So, when you did an lsusb, you saw this number, like xxxx:xxxx .
[11:53] <karathrace> yes the ID of deive
[11:53] <karathrace> device
[11:53] <friendofafriend> Right, the first part is the vendor ID, the next part is the product ID.
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[11:54] <friendofafriend> Your drivers look for devices they know by that PID and VID.
[11:55] <friendofafriend> Because the firmware was already there, it's probably that the driver just didn't know about that particular model of USB wifi dongle, and didn't know to load the rtl8188 driver.
[11:55] <karathrace> ahh ok just like that wasn't in "the knowning list"
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[11:56] <friendofafriend> Yeah, that's the right idea.
[11:56] <friendofafriend> What are you playing on your RetroPie?
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[11:56] <karathrace> only old arcades
[11:56] <karathrace> from my "youngness"
[11:57] <friendofafriend> Cool! I like those Neo-Geo ROMs, Capcom, stuff like that.
[11:57] <karathrace> yeah :D
[11:57] <karathrace> i'm trying to ssh now with Terminus cellphone app to wlan0 ip address but seems no results
[11:58] <friendofafriend> I saw a fellow building a nice cabinet, karathrace. I think you might be into it. Built around a Raspi 3 and RetroPie. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=psWCmLwvWBE
[11:58] <friendofafriend> It's probably because the SSHd server isn't started.
[11:58] <karathrace> yes i've built my own cabinet with pi2 inside of it
[11:59] <karathrace> ah, how can i start it?
[11:59] <friendofafriend> Try a "sudo /etc/init.d/ssh start"
[11:59] <BurtyB> friendofafriend, FYI if it's just the PID/VID that's different you can get the driver to use it by echoing "pid vid" into the drivers "/proc/bus/usb/drivers/<driver>/new_id"
[12:00] <friendofafriend> Great info, BurtyB! Does that persist?
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[12:00] <shiftplusone> I don't think it's that. The firmware and kernel packages are completely unrelated. It's most likely just a driver that's not upstream.
[12:00] <BurtyB> friendofafriend, sadly not, but I use a udev rule to do it when it sees the pid:vid :)
[12:00] <friendofafriend> karathrace: If you want to make SSHd always run, you can find that setting under "Interfacing Options" in raspi-config.
[12:02] <friendofafriend> Strange to have firmware for a device without a driver?
[12:05] <shiftplusone> Ok, did a bit of digging
[12:06] <shiftplusone> If it really uses rtl8188eufw.bin then it should work, since the driver that loads that is enabled in all the defconfig files
[12:07] <shiftplusone> So without having an appropriate device here to test with, I can't do much. Otherwise I'd try to make sure it works out of the box without having to jump through any hoops.
[12:07] <friendofafriend> I think BurtyB's VID/PID trick might have worked, too.
[12:08] <karathrace> friendofafriend, i've started ssh and do on raspi-config but can't still connect
[12:09] <friendofafriend> Can you ping the IP address of the Raspberry Pi from another computer, karathrace?
[12:09] <karathrace> yes
[12:10] <friendofafriend> On my Pi, for example, when I run "netstat -na | grep -i 22", the first line returned is "tcp 0 0 0.0.0.0:22 0.0.0.0:* LISTEN".
[12:11] <friendofafriend> Do you see the same when you run that command on your Pi?
[12:12] <karathrace> yes same also tcp6
[12:13] <friendofafriend> Well, that's great news! It means SSHd is listening on all your interfaces.
[12:13] <karathrace> so it could be cellphone app problem?
[12:14] <friendofafriend> It's easy to make a mistake with an app.
[12:14] <karathrace> i tried with putty on windows and seems "timed out"
[12:15] <friendofafriend> For example, if you have a PC, you should be able to open a command line and type "telnet <raspberry_pi's_ip_address> 22" and see the OpenSSH server banner.
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[12:23] <karathrace> still can't connect
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[12:24] <friendofafriend> On the Raspberry Pi, try running the commmand "ssh pi@localhost"
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[12:26] <karathrace> "the autenthicity of host 'localhost (::1)' can't be established
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[12:27] <karathrace> ECDSA key fingerprint is 90:3e:63:ab:f3:ba:69:b5:...... etc...
[12:27] <karathrace> i taped yes
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[12:28] <karathrace> i insert password and then : connection closed by UNKNOWN
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[12:31] <friendofafriend> That's strange. Have you restarted the Pi since setting SSHd to automatically start with raspi-config?
[12:31] <karathrace> yes more than 3-4 times
[12:32] <friendofafriend> Could you type "ifconfig wlan0" on the Pi and then "ssh pi@<wlan0'sIPaddress>" ?
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[12:33] <shauno> if it's finding the fingerprint ssh is running. You might want to try ssh -vv pi@localhost to get a lot more detail to see if you can spot what goes wrong before the connection's closed (a *lot* more. pastebin quantities)
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[12:37] <karathrace> friendofafriend, that worked i can ssh pi@192.168.0.14
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[12:38] <friendofafriend> Can you ssh into that IP address from another machine on your wireless network?
[12:38] <karathrace> i tried putty from windows no results
[12:40] <karathrace> shauno how can paste that from pi2? raspberry now is inside cabinet
[12:40] <karathrace> from terminus cellphone app" socket is not estabilshed"
[12:43] <shauno> something like "ssh -vv -E ssh.log pi@localhost", then once you're done, pastebinit -i ssh.log
[12:43] <shauno> (optionally edit ssh.log before pastebin, if there's anything in there you'd rather keep private)
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[12:49] <karathrace> awesome, i rebooted and wlan0 doesn't have ip animore
[12:50] <friendofafriend> Still have that rtl8188eu directory around, karathrace?
[12:51] <karathrace> in lib/firmware? yes
[12:51] <karathrace> ah no
[12:51] <karathrace> sorry you mean that from git clone
[12:51] <karathrace> yes i have on my home
[12:52] <friendofafriend> Oh cool, when you run a "diff ~/rtl8188eu/rtl8188eufw.bin /lib/firmware/rtlwifi/rtl8188eufw.bin", do you get a result?
[12:52] <BurtyB> karathrace, are you sure SSH isn't just very slow (if you're seeing the key)? if you haven't setup DNS then it might be waiting for that to timeout
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[12:55] <karathrace> friendofafriend, diff return prompt
[12:55] <karathrace> BurtyB, no it's not slow, it goes ot timeout
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[13:01] <friendofafriend> Do you have a PC someplace, karathrace?
[13:01] <karathrace> yes
[13:02] <friendofafriend> I think you mentioned that you tried connecting with PuTTY. Are you trying to connect by IP or DNS name?
[13:03] <karathrace> ip 192.168.0.14
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[13:08] <karathrace> maybe it's my interfaces file
[13:08] <friendofafriend> What is?
[13:08] <karathrace> i dunno why can't get ip anymore
[13:08] <friendofafriend> You might find some clues in your dmesg.
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[13:10] <karathrace> https://paste.ofcode.org/6TJQXASrpTd64ifZvMME4x
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[13:11] <friendofafriend> When you run "sudo dhclient wlan0", do you get an IP?
[13:12] <rendar> i'm loading a website i have made, but browser in raspberry doesn't renders it properly, it hasn't even the black background, how come?
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[13:13] <karathrace> friendofafriend seems hanging, still not returned the prompt
[13:13] <karathrace> friendofafriend, no no ip returned
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[13:15] <friendofafriend> karathrace: That's odd, usually I have all my "auto" entries on the same line. So, "auto lo eth0 wlan0" for example.
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[13:16] <karathrace> you saw my paste link?
[13:16] <friendofafriend> Sure, that you have an "auto lo" on line one and "auto wlan0" on line 7.
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[13:16] <friendofafriend> I'm suggesting removing the "auto wlan0" line and replacing the "auto lo" line on line 1 with "auto lo wlan0".
[13:17] <friendofafriend> Maybe even "auto lo eth0 wlan0"? Do you want your eth0 to come up automatically?
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[13:18] <karathrace> no i don't need eht0... after that i've to reboot or just restart network?
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[13:19] <friendofafriend> I'd reboot, because you want to see if the interface will come up on boot.
[13:20] <karathrace> done, but wlan0 has no ip
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[13:22] <friendofafriend> Could you post your dmesg to pastebin?
[13:22] <karathrace> all?
[13:23] <karathrace> i can't i have no connection
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[13:24] <pksato> karathrace: if rpi and other devices access internet through wifi, but can't access each other, is possible that client isolaton is enabled on wifi router.
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[13:26] <karathrace> i have a netgear, where i'm suppose to check?
[13:27] <pksato> wifi advanced config.
[13:27] <pksato> or similar config.
[13:27] <karathrace> can be "wireless isolation?"
[13:28] <karathrace> it's unticked
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[13:32] <friendofafriend> Well, you might be able to look through dmesg and find more information, karathrace.
[13:33] <karathrace> dmesg | grep usb
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[13:33] <friendofafriend> That probably won't bring back any specifics on your wifi.
[13:34] <friendofafriend> Maybe something more like dmesg | grep -i rtl
[13:34] <karathrace> return only promt
[13:34] <karathrace> prompt*
[13:34] <friendofafriend> But dmesg isn't really that long on a freshly booted system, so I'd probably read the whole thing.
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[13:35] <karathrace> usbcore: registered new interface drive r8188eu
[13:36] <karathrace> R8188EU:firmware version 11 subversion 1signature 0x88e1
[13:39] <friendofafriend> Sweet, see anything about wlan0 in there?
[13:39] <karathrace> nope
[13:40] <karathrace> dmesg | grep wlan0 give me only
[13:40] <karathrace> ipv6 wlan0 link is not ready
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[13:43] <friendofafriend> Can you see other APs when you do a "sudo iw wlan0 scan"?
[13:44] <karathrace> no such device (-19)
[13:45] <friendofafriend> OK, so that's helpful. Do you get a "Device not found" message when you run "sudo ifconfig wlan0"?
[13:46] <karathrace> no i see the wlan0 with all infos but without ip address
[13:47] <friendofafriend> How about when you do a "sudo iw wlan0 info"?
[13:47] <karathrace> no such device (-19)
[13:49] <friendofafriend> Can you issue a "sudo ifconfig wlan0 up", and then try "sudo iw wlan0 info" again?
[13:49] <karathrace> same as before, no such device
[13:51] <ShorTie> got a link to that wifi device you bought ??
[13:51] <karathrace> it's a d-link wireless n 150 DWA 121
[13:51] <karathrace> i bought in a mall
[13:52] <friendofafriend> That's a 2001:331b, RTL8188EU.
[13:52] <karathrace> yes
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[13:56] <ShorTie> you sure that is linux compatable ??
[13:57] <ShorTie> all i see d-link saying is windows
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[13:57] <ShorTie> what kernel are you using ??
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[13:58] <karathrace> it was working before... with a guide linked to me by friendofafriend
[13:59] <karathrace> uname -a tells me kernel is 4.9.35-v7+
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[14:00] <BCMM> karathrace: have you verified it's a RTL8188EU? i think there are multiple hardware revision of the dwa-121
[14:01] <friendofafriend> ShorTie: Ctrl+F, "331b" on https://github.com/jeremyb31/rtl8188eu/blob/master/os_dep/usb_intf.c
[14:02] <onca> What is the difference between armhf and aarch64 binaries. I installed the latter onto a raspberry pi 3B+ board and everything is working ok, but both tutorials I followed, linked to the armhf file.
[14:03] <friendofafriend> Ah, the rtl8188eu driver doesn't support cfg80211 commands like iw uses. https://github.com/lwfinger/rtl8188eu/issues/84
[14:04] <friendofafriend> karathrace: Could you try running "iwconfig", and do you see information about your wlan0 interface there?
[14:04] <karathrace> checking
[14:06] <karathrace> unassociated... no essid wifi@realtek... sensitivity 0/0... bunch of options off
[14:06] <karathrace> mode managed
[14:06] <friendofafriend> OK, when you do a "ps xau | grep -i wpa", do you see wpa_supplicant running?
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[14:07] <karathrace> there are 3 pid running
[14:08] <friendofafriend> OK, let's do a "sudo killall wpa_supplicant" and then a "ps xau | grep -i wpa" to make sure it's been killed.
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[14:09] <karathrace> all killed
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[14:10] <friendofafriend> OK, I see in your pastes that your wpa_supplicant configuration file is located at /etc/wpa_supplicant/wpasupplicant.conf. Could you do an "ls /etc/wpa_supplicant/wpasupplicant.conf" and make sure that file is actually there?
[14:10] <friendofafriend> (It's usually named something a little different.)
[14:11] <karathrace> there is
[14:11] <karathrace> empty file
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[14:11] <friendofafriend> OK, well that should have some information about your wireless network inside.
[14:12] <friendofafriend> Could you try doing a "ls /etc/wpa_supplicant/wpa_supplicant.conf"?
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[14:12] <karathrace> file exists
[14:12] <karathrace> returns to me /etc/wpa_supplicant/wpa_supplicant.conf
[14:13] <friendofafriend> OK, and when you do a "sudo cat /etc/wpa_supplicant/wpa_supplicant.conf", do you see your network's ssid and PSK (password)?
[14:13] <karathrace> no, file totally empty
[14:13] <karathrace> sorry
[14:14] <karathrace> there is!
[14:14] <friendofafriend> Oh, OK! Hey cool!
[14:14] <karathrace> there are informations of an old network
[14:14] <karathrace> (from my shop)
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[14:15] <friendofafriend> OK, are those the only two configuration files in your /etc/wpa_supplicant/ directory when you do an "ls /etc/wpa_supplicant/*.conf"?
[14:15] <karathrace> yes
[14:16] <karathrace> the firs one in order was in may shop. I deleted it now
[14:16] <friendofafriend> OK, well you may try running "sudo raspi-config" again to generate an wpa_supplicant.conf file.
[14:17] <friendofafriend> You could also make that file manually, and it's not terribly difficult.
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[14:19] <friendofafriend> Are you in Italy, karathrace?
[14:19] <karathrace> yes
[14:20] <karathrace> still nothing... unable to get any ip address to wlan0
[14:21] <friendofafriend> So, your wpa_supplicant.conf file should look something like this. https://paste.debian.net/plain/1051395
[14:22] <friendofafriend> (Normally, that file is named "wpa_supplicant.conf", and not "wpasupplicant.conf" like in your /etc/network/interfaces file.)
[14:23] <karathrace> ok, GB was in here instead IT.
[14:23] <karathrace> and I added this scan_ssid=1
[14:23] <friendofafriend> OK, well it's good to fix that. Do you have a /etc/wpa_supplicant/wpa_supplicant.conf file with your network's information now?
[14:23] <karathrace> yes
[14:24] <friendofafriend> OK, let's check in your /etc/network/interfaces file, where you see that filename for your wpa_supplicant config.
[14:25] <friendofafriend> It's set to "/etc/wpa_supplicant/wpasupplicant.conf", let's go ahead and add an underscore to make it "/etc/wpa_supplicant/wpa_supplicant.conf"
[14:26] <karathrace> always been with underscore
[14:26] <ShorTie> have you tried going into raspi-config, and configuring your network ??
[14:26] <friendofafriend> karathrace: OK, that's weird because one of the pastes had it without an underscore.
[14:26] <ShorTie> that is what makes a correct "/etc/wpa_supplicant/wpa_supplicant.conf" i do believe
[14:27] <karathrace> maybe i mad a mess 'cause i hand written
[14:27] <friendofafriend> Oh, no big deal. :)
[14:27] <friendofafriend> So, I would go ahead and reboot the Pi. You now have a wpa_supplicant file that should work, and /etc/network/interfaces seems correct.
[14:29] <karathrace> ok, i have all in right place, but still after reboot no ip address on wlan0...
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[14:30] <friendofafriend> When you do an iwconfig, does wlan0 have an ESSID?
[14:31] <karathrace> checking
[14:32] <karathrace> no and i checked with ps aux grep wpa... that no wpa supplicant running
[14:32] <friendofafriend> OK, there's no wpa_supplicant running now?
[14:33] <karathrace> yep
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[14:33] <friendofafriend> OK, does /etc/wpa_supplicant/wpa_supplicant.conf exist, with our settings inside?
[14:33] <karathrace> yes
[14:34] <friendofafriend> OK, so then let's try starting wpa_supplicant manually with "sudo wpa_supplicant -c /etc/wpa_supplicant/wpa_supplicant.conf -iwlan0 -Dwext".
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[14:35] <karathrace> driver not support autentication association or connect commands
[14:36] <karathrace> sorry, phone call...
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[14:42] <friendofafriend> OK, looks like we're running into this issue. https://github.com/lwfinger/rtl8188eu/issues/189
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[14:51] <friendofafriend> So, it looks like the fix would be to "rm ~/rtl8188eu -rf" and then "git clone --single-branch -b v4.1.8_9499 https://github.com/lwfinger/rtl8188eu.git".
[14:54] <friendofafriend> But then you'll end up having to add the USB VID and PID to ~/rtl8188eu/os_dep/usb_intf.c .
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[15:07] <friendofafriend> karathrace: You can add that USB VID and PID to ~/rtl8188eu/os_dep/usb_intf.c with the command: sed -i '129 a \\t{USB_DEVICE(0x2001, 0x331B)}, /* D-Link DWA-121 rev B1 */ \\' ~/rtl8188eu/os_dep/usb_intf.c
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[15:11] <tommy``> friendofafriend: hello, i'm karathrace from another pc sorry the dealy
[15:11] <tommy``> delay
[15:11] <tommy``> i didn't read last messages
[15:11] <tommy``> could you paste me please?
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[15:12] <friendofafriend> Sure, tommy``.
[15:12] <tommy``> thank you
[15:13] <friendofafriend> tommy``: The problem we're having is this one. https://github.com/lwfinger/rtl8188eu/issues/189
[15:13] <tommy``> ok yes exactly
[15:13] <friendofafriend> The command to run is something like "rm ~/rtl8188eu -rf ; cd ; git clone --single-branch -b v4.1.8_9499
[15:14] <friendofafriend> Drat, one moment.
[15:14] <tommy``> ok
[15:15] <friendofafriend> "rm ~/rtl8188eu -rf ; cd ; git clone --single-branch -b v4.1.8_9499 https://github.com/lwfinger/rtl8188eu.git ; sed -i '129 a \\t{USB_DEVICE(0x2001, 0x331B)}, /* D-Link DWA-121 rev B1 */ \\' ~/rtl8188eu/os_dep/usb_intf.c"
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[15:16] <friendofafriend> Which deletes the old directly, pulls the branch that apparently supports the command needed for wpa_supplicant, and uses sed to add your USB device's VID and PID to the os_dep/usb_intf.c file.
[15:16] <friendofafriend> directory**
[15:16] <tommy``> ok lets try
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[15:17] <tommy``> ok done
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[15:19] <friendofafriend> From there, I think the command is "sudo dkms remove rtl8188eu --all".
[15:19] <tommy``> error
[15:19] <tommy``> Error! Invalid number of parameters passed.
[15:20] <friendofafriend> OK, try "sudo dkms remove 8188eu --all"
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[15:20] <tommy``> same error
[15:21] <friendofafriend> "sudo dkms remove 8188eu/1.0 --all"
[15:21] <tommy``> ok uninstall beginning
[15:21] <tommy``> it says: "Status: Before uninstall, this module version was ACTIVE on this kernel."
[15:22] <friendofafriend> Did it wrap up?
[15:22] <tommy``> yes Done
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[15:22] <tommy``> Deleting module version: 1.0 completely from the DKMS tree.
[15:22] <friendofafriend> Cool, from there it's "sudo dkms add ~/rtl8188eu".
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[15:23] <friendofafriend> And you'd follow that with "sudo dkms install 8188eu/1.0".
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[15:24] <tommy``> Error! Could not find module source directory. Directory: /usr/src/?~-rtl8188eu does not exist.
[15:24] <tommy``> mmmh strange character
[15:25] <friendofafriend> OK, if you're in the home directory, maybe it doesn't understand ~.
[15:25] <tommy``> mmh
[15:25] <friendofafriend> So, let's try "sudo dkms add ./rtl8188eu"
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[15:25] <friendofafriend> And follow that with the "sudo dkms install 8188eu/1.0" command.
[15:26] <tommy``> yes it's in "make all"
[15:27] <tommy``> building module, cleaning build area... 'make all' ........
[15:27] <friendofafriend> Hooray. That's a good thing.
[15:27] <tommy``> waiting time now
[15:27] <tommy``> so i'm chainging the the version of module now?
[15:28] <friendofafriend> For some reason, the master branch does not have support for the configuration commands we'd like to use.
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[15:28] <friendofafriend> Which means things like iw don't work, and wpa_supplicant.
[15:29] <tommy``> ah ok, so it was a driver issue?
[15:29] <friendofafriend> Basically.
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[15:30] <tommy``> ok maybe someone on github will fix for other people?
[15:31] <friendofafriend> I don't understand why the master branch doesn't have those configuration commands, but we just pulled a different branch.
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[15:31] <friendofafriend> And we added in the appropriate USB VID and PID for the wifi device.
[15:32] <tommy``> ok still waiting for compile finishing
[15:32] <friendofafriend> Is that the "add" command still, or the "install" command?
[15:33] <friendofafriend> "Add", right?
[15:33] <tommy``> i made install now
[15:33] <tommy``> DKMS install completed
[15:33] <friendofafriend> OK, cool! After that's done, I'd go ahead and restart the Pi.
[15:33] <tommy``> : Unable to find an initial ram disk that I know how to handle. Will not try to make an initrd.
[15:33] <friendofafriend> See if your interface comes up automatically.
[15:33] <tommy``> rebooting
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[15:34] <tommy``> still wlan0 no ip addres
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[15:36] <friendofafriend> Do you get output from "lsmod| grep 8188eu"?
[15:37] <tommy``> 8188eu 659532 0 cfg80211 543027 1 8188eu
[15:37] <friendofafriend> OK, cool. Do you get results from "iw wlan0 info" now?
[15:38] <friendofafriend> Or the error message from before?
[15:38] <tommy``> checking
[15:38] <tommy``> oh yes!
[15:38] <friendofafriend> Awesome, that's great news!
[15:39] <friendofafriend> Is wpa_supplicant running? "ps xau | grep -i wpa_supp"
[15:39] <tommy``> https://paste.ofcode.org/3JUeSNhimsMppQFzWPxjLg
[15:39] <friendofafriend> Hey, that's looking good!
[15:40] <tommy``> https://paste.ofcode.org/GS2cPa6avANFbDd7zgsV4
[15:41] <friendofafriend> OK, that's not so bad. Let's try giving a "sudo wpa_supplicant -c /etc/wpa_supplicant/wpa_supplicant.conf -iwlan0 -Dnl80211,wext"
[15:42] <tommy``> https://paste.ofcode.org/DTMhrnaAbeanZ4wkD8AGWe
[15:42] <tommy``> it's not ended seems still runninng
[15:42] <friendofafriend> Hey, that's a great sign.
[15:42] <friendofafriend> Can you switch to another terminal on the Pi, with like Ctrl+Alt+F2?
[15:44] <tommy``> done
[15:44] <friendofafriend> OK, I think from here you do a "sudo dhclient wlan0".
[15:44] <tommy``> running
[15:45] <tommy``> still not finished
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[15:45] <tommy``> ok finished
[15:46] <friendofafriend> Ok, cool. When you do an "ifconfig wlan0", do you have an IP address now?
[15:46] <tommy``> still not
[15:46] <friendofafriend> How about when you run an iwconfig command, are you associated to an ESSID?
[15:46] <tommy``> still not associated
[15:47] <friendofafriend> Let's switch back to the other terminal, which is probably Ctrl+Alt+F1.
[15:47] <tommy``> ok done i'm here
[15:47] <friendofafriend> Is there anything new on that screen since the last paste? "wlan0: CTRL-EVENT-REGDOM-CHANGE init=USER type=COUNTRY alpha2=IT"?
[15:48] <tommy``> no nothing happened
[15:49] <friendofafriend> OK, you can hit Ctrl+C to kill wpa_supplicant in that window.
[15:49] <friendofafriend> Is there anything odd in dmesg about your wlan0 interface?
[15:50] <tommy``> trying
[15:50] <tommy``> [ 5.963540] IPv6: ADDRCONF(NETDEV_UP): wlan0: link is not ready
[15:51] <jakent> oy: I’m glad I looked in here… I was having this problem myself …
[15:51] <jakent> ora similar one… can’t get my wlan0 to associate to an ESSID
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[15:53] <friendofafriend> tommy``: On that first terminal, if you hit the up arrow, your wpa_supplicant command should come back.
[15:53] <friendofafriend> Let's add the -d flag onto the end (for debug).
[15:54] <friendofafriend> That should generate a lot more diagnostic information.
[15:55] <tommy``> https://paste.ofcode.org/ktULWexMevhDRuB43nqKag
[15:56] <tommy``> ok in the other terminal i typed "ifconfig" and IP APPEARED!
[15:56] <friendofafriend> Hey, cool!
[15:56] <friendofafriend> I see the line "EAPOL authentication completed - result=SUCCESS", so things seem pretty good.
[15:57] <friendofafriend> Are you far away from the AP?
[15:57] <tommy``> but if i kill wpa_supplicant command ip go down
[15:57] <tommy``> no it's near t ome
[15:58] <tommy``> 2 meters far away from me
[15:59] <friendofafriend> The only thing that stands out is that in your /etc/network/interfaces file, you have wpa-roam instead of wpa-conf.
[15:59] <friendofafriend> I think it would be worthwhile to change "wpa-roam" to "wpa-conf" in that file for troubleshooting. It might be why wpa_supplicant isn't starting automatically.
[16:00] <tommy``> done rebooting
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[16:01] <tommy``> reboot, ip is up!
[16:01] <friendofafriend> Hooray! Someone had a similar problem with wpa-roam vs. wpa-conf here. https://raspberrypi.stackexchange.com/questions/3852/start-wireless-network-automatically-on-boot-up-how-to
[16:03] <tommy``> how can we contact the github community to fix the issue on driver?
[16:04] <friendofafriend> I'm guessing there's some reason they've moved away from supporting nl80211/cfg80211 configuration, but I have no idea why.
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[16:06] <friendofafriend> So if you ever run into the same issue, you might want to save this someplace. https://paste.debian.net/plain/1051410
[16:07] <friendofafriend> And that should get the dongle working from a fresh install on most Linux distros out there.
[16:07] <tommy``> i think yes, i saved the paste
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[16:09] <tommy``> now i retry to access the pi with cellphone app
[16:09] <friendofafriend> Hey, maybe it'll go better this time. ;)
[16:09] <friendofafriend> jakent: Are you having some troubles with wifi?
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[16:11] <tommy``> yes yes yes yesssssssssss friendofafriend
[16:13] <friendofafriend> Wheee! So glad things are working! Got any cool ROMs picked out?
[16:14] <tommy``> yeah
[16:15] <friendofafriend> I'm excited to hear it. Did you build a joystick?
[16:16] <tommy``> wait i show u
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[16:17] <tommy``> read pvt friendofafriend
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[16:22] <jakent> friendofafriend: yeah… after I upgraded to Stretch (fresh install) my rpi3 and my Rpi0w refuse to associate with the access point. 2.4Ghz Channel 2 … United states… but unfortunately I’m at work and not near the machines
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[16:30] <friendofafriend> jakent: Let me know when you're back around it, maybe I can help you out. :)
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[16:31] <jakent> thank you… I apperciate that
[16:31] <friendofafriend> Always welcome, jakent!
[16:32] <friendofafriend> Just found a nice Raspi Zero case while I was outside picking up some trash! Looks like it'll hold the board with lots of room to spare.
[16:32] <jakent> Simple print / scan server and a home automation … i bought two new machines and put back in the old wheezy images to keep things up
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[16:33] <Lartza> wheezy????
[16:33] <Lartza> Hopefully not connected to the internet
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[16:36] <friendofafriend> Uh oh, I have Wheezy installed on my pacemaker. O_O
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[16:37] <Lartza> as if pacemakers have enough power to run debian, minix though... ;)
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[16:37] <Lartza> Even Debian support for Wheezy ended last May, Raspbian much sooner
[16:41] <gordonDrogon> I have a wheezy Pi connected to the internet. it's all about mangement of stuff like what you're running on it and expectations.
[16:41] <Lartza> Probably not as bad as Windows XP machines on the internet yeah
[16:41] <gordonDrogon> well I also have an XP laptop next to me. It can also see the internet.
[16:42] <gordonDrogon> you may find pacemakers have a 6502 in them anyway. good, solid 45 year old technology.
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[17:21] <friendofafriend> jakent: Place your bets. https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/1/15/Musical_Jolly_Chimp1.jpg/800px-Musical_Jolly_Chimp1.jpg
[17:22] <jakent> Medtronic A2DR01
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[19:52] <Jigsy> Hrm.
[19:52] <Jigsy> I can't seem to get Chocolate Doom working on my Pi.
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[19:53] <Jigsy> Well, more mainly, I can't seem to apt-get install: libsdl2-mixer-dev libsdl2-net-dev python-imaging libsdl2-dev
[19:55] <ShorTie> have you done a 'apt update' lately ??
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[19:55] <Jigsy> Yeah.
[19:56] <Jigsy> Also, based on an older guide, I tried: sudo apt-get install libsdl1.2debian libsdl-image1.2 libsdl-mixer1.2 libsdl-mixer1.2-dev libsdl-net1.2 libsdl-net1.2-dev timidity.
[19:56] <Jigsy> Which also hasn't worked (for the most part) afaict.
[19:57] <ShorTie> apt upgrade ??
[19:57] <Jigsy> Same.
[19:58] <Jigsy> Ah, that's doing something.
[19:58] <Jigsy> At least upgrading said packages in the first one.
[19:58] <Jigsy> I've just noticed that the URL is 404ing.
[19:59] <Jigsy> Is there any way to apt-get from another URL?
[20:01] <Jigsy> Aha. Now I'm getting somewhere.
[20:01] <ShorTie> lots, get pulled from a poll of them
[20:01] <Jigsy> I can actually ./configure and make now.
[20:01] <Jigsy> Before it was like "Nope, need libsd2."
[20:01] <Jigsy> Or at least libs.
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[20:19] <karathrace> friendofafriend bad news :( now doesn't have ip anymore
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[20:21] <k_j> hi guys
[20:21] <k_j> omxplayer is totally crap
[20:21] <k_j> it plays files fine but cannot play through pipes
[20:21] <k_j> (or from stdin directly)
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[20:31] <Fulgen> and what shall we do with this information?
[20:32] <Khaytsus> I just filed it in /dev/null
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[20:39] <k_j> cat myfile.mp4 | omxplayer --no-keys pipe:0
[20:39] <k_j> why does not it work
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[20:39] <Khaytsus> Is this specific to a pi k_j
[20:39] <Khaytsus> Answer is very unlikely to be yes
[20:39] <stiv> use a named pipe?
[20:39] <Khaytsus> I shall name it George
[20:40] <k_j> Khaytsus, no, "omxplayer myfile.mp4" works fine as I said
[20:40] <stiv> if it isn't coded to read from stdin, it won't
[20:40] <Khaytsus> k_j: Again............................. not likely ANYTHING to do with a pi
[20:40] <Khaytsus> Try it on any other Linux system
[20:40] <stiv> you did try cat foo | omxplayer - right?
[20:40] <k_j> stiv, it does not work with a named pipe either
[20:41] <k_j> stiv, - is not supported
[20:41] <k_j> Khaytsus, what are you saying? I do not understand you. Is not the problem clear?
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[20:41] * stiv repeats: if it isn't coded to read from stdin, it won't
[20:41] <Khaytsus> k_j: It's a random program. It has nothing to do with pi.
[20:41] <k_j> stiv, there's the "pipe:0" thing in theory
[20:42] <Khaytsus> https://lb.raspberrypi.org/forums/viewtopic.php?t=28017
[20:42] <k_j> Khaytsus, what random program are you taling about?
[20:42] <Khaytsus> did you even google?
[20:42] <stiv> did you try mkfifo to create pipe?
[20:42] <k_j> stiv, yeah, it does work
[20:42] <stiv> just checking!
[20:43] <k_j> stiv, google reveals how crap omxplayer is...everybody has had problems with reading from stdin or a pipe
[20:43] <k_j> it's the most basic thing one would support from a player
[20:44] <stiv> prolly windows coders
[20:44] <k_j> *would expect
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[20:47] <waveform> k_j, the most basic thing I tend to expect from players is to play video from a file ... pipes are whole other kettle of fish given they don't support seek
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[20:49] <waveform> further, omxplayer is primarily intended as a demo of how to use the GPU to handle H.264 decoding - it's grown into something more than that but I'd never expect it to be as full featured as, say, vlc or kodi
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[20:50] <k_j> pipes usefulness go beyond seek
[20:51] <waveform> sure - but the inability to seek means that a decoder/player has to be coded with the assumption that it cannot (or may not) seek; not all will be
[20:51] <k_j> kodi is truckload of things I do not want.. while vlc cannot play on hdmi as far as I know
[20:51] <waveform> well, the last I saw vlc on the Pi hasn't got GPU support (yet, though I've heard it's in the pipeline - not sure where that stands though)
[20:53] <k_j> there's probably gstreamer but I got lost in the command line sauce..I gave up with it too
[20:54] <waveform> gstreamer is almost certainly your best bet for dealing with pipes, given a major part of its brief is dealing with network stuff (and there's definitely GPU support in there for both encoding and decoding H.264)
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[21:04] <shbrngdo> Marvel Comics fans: https://www.foxnews.com/entertainment/stan-lee-legendary-marvel-superheroes-creator-dead-at-95
[21:05] <ghostboarder> gasp!
[21:05] <ghostboarder> RIP, good man, brought so much joy to so many geeks
[21:05] <ghostboarder> :(
[21:06] <shbrngdo> ack on that one
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[21:09] <Lope> Why is it that the RbPi cameras have to be manually focused by turning a knob, whereas a smartphone or webcam can auto-focus?
[21:09] <ali1234> because smartphone cameras have a moving lens on them
[21:10] <gordonDrogon> pi cameras have a focus knob now?
[21:10] <Lope> gordonDrogon, the official one has a focus knob but it's glued, you have to break the glue to turn it.
[21:10] <Lope> Some of the non-official ones, are not glued.
[21:11] <gordonDrogon> well there you go.
[21:11] <gordonDrogon> so I don't know why, but I'd guess the usual; cost and effort to write the software.
[21:12] <Lope> Does the RbPi A take the same camera connector as the B and 2B etc?
[21:13] <ali1234> yes
[21:13] <Lope> But the odd thing is that things move.
[21:14] <Lope> So if you're leaving a camera unattended monitored by a RbPi camera, and the subjects move closer/further; things will be out of focus.
[21:17] <hodapp> I thought the normal Ras Pi camera was fixed-focus
[21:17] <hodapp> ah, yeah
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[21:20] <hodapp> that and I'm not sure CSI protocol even deals any with focus
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[21:26] <waveform> hodapp, there are bits in the camera firmware for dealing with focus, but they're not compiled in (same with the face detection stuff) either because they aren't required or because it'd mean extra licensing costs (or both)
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[21:30] <hodapp> oh, interesting
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[21:53] <Tenkawa> hi all
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[22:06] <bray90820> Anyone know of an IO shield for a raspberry pi so I can put it in a PC case?
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[22:08] <ali1234> bray90820: i've looked and none are currently available
[22:09] <shbrngdo> when you say 'IO sheild' do you mean like a PCIe or cardbus or similar wired-up interface?
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[22:10] <shbrngdo> I think just working as a USB slave device would do it, probably. For that you could use a microcontroller in between...
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[22:11] <Khaytsus> Nobody bother to guess what bray90820 means... let him attempt to explain it
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[22:11] * shbrngdo wonders if it has anything to do with donkeys
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[22:12] <shbrngdo> oh wait - I was thinking something else - heh
[22:13] <shbrngdo> yeah - sometimes someone will imagine the solution in a 'non workable' kind of way, then ask if it's possible to do that. Everyone says 'no'
[22:13] <shbrngdo> but if the right question were asked instead, then maybe it CAN be done, but not "that way"
[22:14] <shbrngdo> "can I plug my computer directly into a power outlet" "what kind of plug does it have" "what voltage does it need" etc.
[22:14] <shbrngdo> or "is there a 220 adaptor for XXX" <-- that makes more sense
[22:14] <ali1234> this is an io shield: https://i.stack.imgur.com/k4GrD.jpg
[22:15] <bray90820> When I say IO Shield I mean one of what ali1234 just linked to
[22:15] <ali1234> you would also need an adapter plate to convert ATX or whatever to the rpi mounting holes
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[22:16] <ali1234> all perfectly do-able but i have not been able to find one for any of the common PC form factors
[22:16] <ali1234> someone tried to crowd fund one but it failed
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[22:17] * Khaytsus blinks
[22:17] <ali1234> http://linuxgizmos.com/mini-itx-carrier-board-for-raspberry-pi/
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[22:18] <Khaytsus> So take a sbc that's compact and requires very little space and make it take up a bunch of space
[22:18] <Khaytsus> k
[22:18] <ali1234> yeah, it's better than taking a standard raspberry pi case and then hot gluing a hard drive and power supply to it
[22:18] <Ben64> and the things costs more than a pi
[22:18] <Khaytsus> There are other stacking drive cases...
[22:19] <bray90820> That's interesting but I might just get a blank IO shield and make my own holes because I am gonna have add-ons and stuff
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[22:19] * Khaytsus blinks
[22:20] <bray90820> I'm making an all in one music player with the PI
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[22:20] <Ben64> pi can do that without expanding to fit a mini itx case
[22:21] <bray90820> But it looks a lot nicer in one
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[22:21] <bazul> hehe
[22:21] <Khaytsus> https://www.element14.com/community/docs/DOC-83477
[22:21] <Khaytsus> There are a LOT of stacking cases for pi's.. or this sort of thing
[22:21] <Ben64> buy a $2 case from your local raspberry pi dealer
[22:21] <Ben64> done
[22:21] <Khaytsus> I've seen some that are just acrylic separated things etc
[22:22] <Ben64> or find a makerspace and get something 3d printed
[22:22] <ali1234> these suggestions are terrible
[22:23] <Khaytsus> Then they match the idea
[22:23] <_Trullo> buy a 3dprinter for sure, it's fun and you can make 200 cases
[22:23] <_Trullo> even make your own with Fusion360
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[22:24] <_Trullo> I did a box for some electronic stuff, took me over 50 hours to print, over a week in Fusion 360, but cost me not so much :)
[22:24] <Khaytsus> _Trullo: How much do you get paid an hour?
[22:26] <_Trullo> doesn't matter, it's still fun with a 3d printer
[22:31] <gordonDrogon> I bought myself a lasercutter just to have fun :)
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[22:32] <gordonDrogon> and pimoroni put the design for the original pibow case online - which is good as I have 3 original Pi's that need new cases...
[22:33] <Ben64> gordonDrogon: k40?
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[22:33] <Ben64> or did you get a nice one
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[22:35] <gordonDrogon> no idea what a k40 is. I bought mine from a UK company, but it's very similar to the desktop/A4 ones you get online, however it's fitted with the right PSU, saftey switches, etc.
[22:35] <gordonDrogon> I threw away their finest chinesium control board and replaced it with a LaOS board.
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[22:37] <gordonDrogon> http://hpclaser.co.uk/index.php?main_page=product_info&cPath=1&products_id=92
[22:38] <gordonDrogon> although it was cheaper because they weren't at that point bundling their expensive software with it - one reason I built the LaOS board up - I now use inkscape on my Linux box to design stuff.
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[22:41] <ali1234> i designed the pirover bits in inkscape
[22:41] <stiv> gordonDrogon, that looks like a fun toy!
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[22:42] <ali1234> i just send the designs for someone else to cut them
[22:42] <gordonDrogon> yea, and ... laser... pew pew pew ... :)
[22:43] <gordonDrogon> it almost makes that noise when you turn it on, but that's a conbination of the killer volt psu startup, fans and water pump.
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[22:47] <stiv> ok, now i *really* want one!
[22:48] <gordonDrogon> :)
[22:49] <stiv> actually, i've been trying to think of a use case that would justify buying one. something beyond "burning pictures in plywood"
[22:50] <gordonDrogon> I'ev actually done lots of that for my wife...
[22:50] <gordonDrogon> mobile phone bumber cases with wooden backs too.
[22:50] <gordonDrogon> *bumper
[22:50] <stiv> cool
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[22:54] <gordonDrogon> the one thing I did buy it for - making robot bases, etc. has still to be done on it!!!
[22:54] <gordonDrogon> it's done more general arty/crafty stuff so-far...
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[23:13] <en1gma> Can i power the rpi3b (not +) from any of the 40 pin headers off my 5v rail on my atx psu? i have two rpi3b i want to do this with. directly off molex red and black to a cut mini usb cable
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[23:13] <en1gma> or from molex directly to 40 pin header?
[23:13] <en1gma> or molex to mini usb
[23:13] <gordonDrogon> yes. (to the gpio header)
[23:13] <gordonDrogon> or the mini usb.
[23:14] <gordonDrogon> as long as it's 5v....
[23:14] <gordonDrogon> you'll need to short the green wire to 0v on the PSU header to make it turn on if it's not plugged into a PC though.
[23:14] <en1gma> cool. i might do it off the gpio header as then i wouldnt need to cut any mini usb cables
[23:15] <en1gma> i actually have the atx psu in an old i386 machine running linux and its almost identical to the pi3 hardware as far as benchmarks when pi3 is using 4 cores
[23:15] <gordonDrogon> you will find some people suggest polyfuses, ideal diodes and point you to a foundation recommended way to power it, but.. meh... what's the worst that might happen? you blow a Pi up - buy another ..
[23:15] <en1gma> celeron 2.53ghz single core
[23:16] <en1gma> exactly. even at $35 it not bad
[23:16] <gordonDrogon> your celeron has faster IO to disks though.
[23:16] <gordonDrogon> and possibly more RAM.
[23:16] <en1gma> i did some benchmarking at from usb to lan or from usb to wifi the i386 does beat the pi3
[23:16] <en1gma> im gonna use the i386 and two pi3s and a laptop to control them all headless
[23:17] <en1gma> the two pi3s im gonna attach to the i386 so its all one clump :)
[23:17] <Crenn-NAS> Quick question, is midori still the best browser for a Pi 1B+?
[23:18] <en1gma> i have kali-linux i386 already running and setup 100% headless. now i just need to do the pi3's
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[23:18] <en1gma> when i get the 1st pi3 running like i want can i copy the sd card over for the 2nd pi3?
[23:18] <en1gma> i want to ssh over wifi or lan. not sure yet
[23:19] <en1gma> probably wifi
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[23:20] <Crenn-NAS> en1gma: If you make an image of the first pi3, then you can copy over the sd card and get it working near identical
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[23:23] <en1gma> will there be a problem with ssh?
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[23:27] <Crenn-NAS> No, your network should assign different IPs to both Pis
[23:27] <Lartza> en1gma, Only if you are using static network configuration. Should probably change hostname and /etc/hosts on the second pi
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