#raspberrypi IRC Log

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IRC Log for 2018-11-13

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[3:51] <[ghost]> guys, i have an unusual situation. Long story short, my deluge client on my rpi, instead of sending torrent data to an smb share, created a directory in my home directory named "\\192.168.x.x\"
[3:52] <[ghost]> which is proving difficult to remove. anyone have any ideas
[3:52] * Khaytsus blinks
[3:52] <Khaytsus> Generic linux questions seem to be in abundance today
[3:52] <Khaytsus> rm \\\\blah\\
[3:53] <[ghost]> read again Khaytsus , that isnt the path to the folder, that is the folder itself
[3:53] <Khaytsus> rmdir
[3:53] <[ghost]> ive tried wrapping in quotes, etc but i always get dir doesnt exist, etc
[3:54] <[ghost]> not empty
[3:54] <Khaytsus> ....
[3:56] <[ghost]> pi@RPi1-IRC:~ $ ls
[3:56] <[ghost]> \ \\ \\192.168.2.3\ \\192.168.2.3\---Torrents Incoming--- Downloads
[3:57] <Khaytsus> so... ?
[3:58] <[ghost]> having a lot of fun getting those dirs gone. Using above command as so, rm -rf /\\192.168.2.3\, no such dir
[3:58] <Khaytsus> why would you do that?
[3:58] * [ghost] blinks
[3:59] <Khaytsus> You just making this up as you go?
[3:59] <Khaytsus> Try any other random characters?
[3:59] <[ghost]> those dirs (except for Downloads) contain torrent data that filled my SD
[3:59] <Khaytsus> the very first thing I said has not changed
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[4:00] <[ghost]> obviously im having a little trouble with file syntax in this case
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[4:00] <[ghost]> as every permutation of rmdir im using doesnt seem to work
[4:00] <Khaytsus> Apparently guessing doesn't work
[4:01] <Khaytsus> So try what I told you to do
[4:01] <[ghost]> <Khaytsus> rm \\\\blah\\
[4:01] <[ghost]> ???
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[4:03] <[ghost]> pi@RPi1-IRC:~ $ rm /\\192.168.2.3\
[4:03] <[ghost]> >
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[4:04] <[ghost]> seems to drop me to some other prompt
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[4:04] <Khaytsus> have you tried turning it off and back on again
[4:04] <Khaytsus> Or maybe........... doing what I said?
[4:04] <Khaytsus> Not random other things?
[4:04] <[ghost]> Is lousy attitude a prerequisite to be here or is it just you?
[4:05] <Khaytsus> Not a pi question in any way, shape or form for one. So yeah, that's annoying.
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[4:05] <Khaytsus> two you're COMPLETELY ignoring waht I told you to do
[4:05] <[ghost]> im using a pi
[4:05] <Khaytsus> So yeah
[4:05] <Khaytsus> USING a pi has nothing to do with it
[4:06] <[ghost]> lol this is rich man, ill put it in my sig
[4:06] <Khaytsus> Please do: pi@RPi1-IRC:~ $ rm /\\192.168.2.3\
[4:06] <Khaytsus> That's a good one
[4:07] <[ghost]> see above
[4:07] <[ghost]> i did
[4:07] <Khaytsus> omfg
[4:07] <Khaytsus> rm -fR \\\\192.168.2.3\\
[4:07] <Khaytsus> Jesus Fucking CHrist.
[4:08] <[ghost]> interesting. You didnt use those switches before
[4:08] <Khaytsus> Nonsense
[4:08] <Khaytsus> And ##linux
[4:08] <Khaytsus> Done.
[4:08] <Khaytsus> Be gone.
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[4:09] <[ghost]> Well, either way that worked, so i thank you for your help. Having said that, i could have done without the attitude, Khaytsus.
[4:10] <[ghost]> im new enough to linux that the 4 slash prefix you mentioned, i didnt understand
[4:10] <Syliss> ugh im so mad/sad. i lost all my rpi’s
[4:10] <Khaytsus> There's no such thing.
[4:10] <Syliss> even my first 10k pi
[4:11] <Khaytsus> Syliss: How did you lose them?
[4:11] <[ghost]> oooooooook.....
[4:11] <Syliss> my house burned down
[4:11] * [ghost] goes back to idling in friendlier wates
[4:11] <[ghost]> waters
[4:11] <Syliss> lol
[4:11] <Khaytsus> Syliss: that sucks :(
[4:11] <Syliss> ya
[4:11] <Khaytsus> Everyone okay?
[4:11] <Syliss> my family is safe
[4:11] <Khaytsus> I'd assume so, if the pis are the story, but
[4:12] <Syliss> the campfire in northern cali
[4:12] <Syliss> i was lucky enough to grab some of my important stuff
[4:12] <Syliss> but yeah was just thinking about it and was like damn it
[4:12] <Khaytsus> Syliss: oh.......... ugh... good you got out in time, so many didn't
[4:13] <Syliss> yeah, i was lucky enough to grab some of my stuff, many were not
[4:13] <Syliss> the deathtoll is up to 42
[4:14] <Khaytsus> damn.... Did it circle people and trap them? I heard something about a canyon with no other exit in one case?
[4:15] <Syliss> it just moved way too fast
[4:15] <Syliss> some got trapped cause of everyone leaving
[4:16] <Syliss> some it was from not even knowing
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[9:02] <phinxy> all hail "The Foundation"
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[9:29] <tommy``> hi friendofafriend ;)
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[10:08] <anzipex> How to set static ip for eth0? It should work only if ethernet cable is connected, if not than use wifi network
[10:11] <tommy``> anzipex: this could work for you? https://www.raspberrypi.org/learning/networking-lessons/rpi-static-ip-address/
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[10:25] <friendofafriend> Heyo, tommy``!
[10:29] <anzipex> tommy``, yeah it works! Thanks
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[10:42] <tommy``> hey friendofafriend bad and sad news
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[10:43] <tommy``> i sent u a link friendofafriend, read msg
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[10:47] <friendofafriend> Yeah, I see some archives?
[10:48] <tommy``> yes i dunno if this driver should work well
[10:48] <tommy``> but i've same issue as yesterday
[10:50] <friendofafriend> So, that install script won't detect the USB wifi dongle you have, you'd have to add 2001:331b to where it's grepping lsusb. http://downloads.fars-robotics.net/wifi-drivers/install-wifi
[10:52] <friendofafriend> Oh, OK. I see the other message. So, wpa_supplicant isn't starting automatically?
[10:52] <friendofafriend> Works when you kick it off manually, right?
[10:53] <tommy``> yes i sent a message this morning from the other account
[10:53] <tommy``> seems so
[10:53] <tommy``> you saw about that "No BSS message?
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[10:56] <friendofafriend> I saw that, not really sure why you're getting that message, when starting wpa_supplicant manually is working fine.
[10:57] <friendofafriend> I do see that there are some options being passed to the module in those archives you linked.
[10:57] <friendofafriend> When you do an "lsmod | grep 8188", is the module loading r8188eu or 8188eu? I think it's 8188eu, right?
[10:57] <tommy``> it's 8188eu
[10:58] <tommy``> associoated to cfg80211
[10:58] <friendofafriend> OK, it looks like archive is sending options to the module to turn off power management.
[10:58] <tommy``> ah!
[10:58] <friendofafriend> If your wifi is dropping its connection, that could well be the reason why.
[11:00] <tommy``> ah that good problem
[11:00] <friendofafriend> So, you'd put this in a file called 8188eu.conf in /etc/modprobe.d/ https://paste.debian.net/plain/1051508
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[11:01] <tommy``> this is my actual 8188eu.conf
[11:01] <tommy``> https://paste.ofcode.org/4vQtbXKveV6YNz7ndkPpPw
[11:02] <tommy``> i had, it was present
[11:02] <friendofafriend> OK, looks pretty good.
[11:03] <tommy``> i had to try the script you linked? http://downloads.fars-robotics.net/wifi-drivers/install-wifi ??
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[11:09] <friendofafriend> So, no, that script is just an installer for a precompiled module of 8188eu.
[11:09] <tommy``> ah ok
[11:10] <friendofafriend> And it wouldn't find your USB dongle without the VID:PID being added.
[11:10] <tommy``> infact doesn't work i tried launch but get immediately an error
[11:10] <friendofafriend> I think the bug is this one. https://github.com/lwfinger/rtl8188eu/issues/120
[11:10] <friendofafriend> And it looks like it was simply never fixed.
[11:10] <tommy``> oh no
[11:12] <tommy``> it's strange because i don't get disconnection, i only have difficult to get ip on wlan0 only when i turn off and turn on the pi2
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[11:15] <tommy``> maybe that drivers on that link are different and updated?
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[11:15] <friendofafriend> Those drivers are precompiled for the kernel in the name.
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[11:16] <tommy``> yes i can download the version same as mine kernel
[11:16] <tommy``> 4.9.35-v7+
[11:17] <friendofafriend> So, if everything is working fine when you re-run wpa_supplicant, then it's just some problem with the wpa_supplicant command line being run at startup.
[11:17] <tommy``> 4.9.35-v7+ #1014
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[11:17] <friendofafriend> I don't really see any information about how to change wpa_supplicant flags that are being passed at startup, but I've only been looking for a few minutes.
[11:18] <tommy``> sudo wpa_supplicant -Dnl80211 -iwlan0 -c/etc/wpa_supplicant.conf
[11:18] <tommy``> my bad wrong path
[11:20] <tommy``> after launch that: https://paste.ofcode.org/8VCAuicFPDmKTXPVPVKsKn
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[11:20] <friendofafriend> Yes, and you can put it into the background with adding the -B flag.
[11:21] <tommy``> after that i got ip
[11:22] <tommy``> maybe i could make some alias for boot?
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[11:26] <tommy``> what do you think about https://www.linuxquestions.org/questions/slackware-14/wpa_supplicant-not-starting-on-boot-need-to-manually-start-wireless-774953/
[11:28] <friendofafriend> So, command line options are passed to wpa_supplicant in Raspbian by the /etc/wpa_supplicant/functions.sh file on line 197.
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[11:30] <friendofafriend> In my version of that file, there's no driver passed. That would work for cards that can be managed by wext, but I'm pretty sure for your device you'd need to add -Dnl80211,wext to that variable.
[11:30] <tommy``> what about changing on interfaces from iface wlan0 inet dhcp to manual?
[11:32] <friendofafriend> It will still just be calling wpa_supplicant to authenticate. The auto vs. manual is just the difference between running dhclient or setting a static IP address.
[11:32] <tommy``> ah ok
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[11:32] <tommy``> this is around line 197 https://paste.ofcode.org/XVSuKi2QbdqMyZjx8gwTis
[11:32] <chris_99> Hey, i am right in thinking the pi 3b has only 100Mbps nic right?
[11:33] <friendofafriend> Nope, 1Gbps limited to 300Mbps by the USB bus.
[11:33] <chris_99> wait that's 3b+ i think
[11:33] <chris_99> just found https://www.raspberrypi.org/products/raspberry-pi-3-model-b/ which seems to say 100 i think?
[11:34] <friendofafriend> Oh, that's weird. The 3B has 100Mbps?
[11:34] <friendofafriend> Ugh, OK. Sorry 'bout that.
[11:34] <chris_99> yeah i think so, bit strange heh
[11:35] <BurtyB> why strange?
[11:35] <tommy``> the end of code have WPA_SUP_OPTIONS="$WPA_SUP_OPTIONS -D nl80211,wext"
[11:35] <tommy``> and pa_msg verbose "wpa-driver nl80211,wext (default)"
[11:35] <tommy``> i mean the end of that rows
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[11:38] <chris_99> BurtyB: oh i guess it's not that weird, was just confused. well i only have a 100Mbps switch atm anyway, so it's kind of advantageous actually heh
[11:40] <tommy``> friendofafriend: yesterday we discovered that wpa-conf /etc/wpa_supplicant/wpa_supplicant.conf was correct because wpa-roam was bugged on this driver?
[11:41] <friendofafriend> Nah, I think I linked you someone having the same problem with wpa-roam.
[11:41] <friendofafriend> I'm not sure where wpa_supplicant is supposed to be logging. I see some information in /var/log/auth.log, and you might find some with a cat /var/log/auth.log | grep -i wpa
[11:42] <tommy``> https://paste.ofcode.org/sTZUhznmPUpsAihcN7ffEv
[11:44] <tommy``> friendofafriend: https://github.com/lwfinger/rtl8188eu/issues/197
[11:46] <friendofafriend> So after a reboot, there's no wpa_supplicant in your process list?
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[11:47] <tommy``> yes, correct
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[11:58] <tommy``> friendofafriend: something like this? https://paste.ofcode.org/TdrLMU9FYUZsUGru4fABGA
[11:59] <friendofafriend> So really, that's supposed to be happening without that statement in /etc/network/interfaces
[11:59] <tommy``> ah ok
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[12:00] <friendofafriend> When you do a "sudo service wpa_supplicant stop", and follow it with a "sudo service wpa_supplicant start", do you get some error message on the console?
[12:02] <tommy``> no errors, both commands returned prompt
[12:03] <friendofafriend> OK, when you do a reboot on that Pi and have no wpa_supplicant running, could you try a "sudo service wpa_supplicant start" and see if that brings up wpa_supplicant successfully?
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[12:03] <tommy``> ok checking
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[12:04] <tommy``> oh shit, i rebooted and i've ip on wlan0
[12:04] <tommy``> why, why this happened!!!!!
[12:05] <friendofafriend> Does connecting out, pinging, hitting SSHd, stuff like that work?
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[12:05] <tommy``> i've only done a sudo reboot and magically ip there is, now i try to power off
[12:07] <tommy``> power off power on, ip is there, but dunno why, ping and sshd works
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[12:07] <tommy``> is this randomnly happened?
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[12:13] <friendofafriend> Not sure, keep your eyes on it, maybe it'll disconnect again.
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[12:14] <tommy``> i try reboot now let's see
[12:16] <tommy``> and it works again.... =_=
[12:17] <tommy``> friendofafriend: i've on my wpa_supplicant 2 networks, one here at job place and one at home, it could be that when i change AP could generate my ip issue?
[12:17] <tommy``> maybe for this reason it can get ip automatically, dunno
[12:17] <friendofafriend> I don't understand. You're saying you have two wpa_supplicant.conf files?
[12:18] <tommy``> no no
[12:18] <tommy``> wait i paste
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[12:18] <tommy``> https://paste.ofcode.org/JqzMqgp96Gqu3mBVgB3pxi
[12:18] <tommy``> i only masked the 2 password
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[12:22] <ShorTie> so it looks for NETGEAR, if not found then tries Infostrada-01B490 ??
[12:22] <shauno> I have the same, looks for my home wifi and then my phone. hasn't caused me similar problems yet
[12:23] <tommy``> ShorTie: yes that could be the idea, but yesterday when i disconnected from Infostrada and back home and trying connecting to NETGEAR can't get any ip
[12:23] <shauno> (although there's always a power cycle involved, so it'll find one or the other at boot, I don't move between them)
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[12:24] <tommy``> mmmh
[12:24] <tommy``> what's that mean shauno?
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[12:25] <shauno> I mean I don't move from one network to another with the pi turned on, so I don't know how it handles moving from one AP to another
[12:25] <friendofafriend> So, with no priority= in the network stanza, wpa_supplicant will try to connect to whichever AP has the best signal.
[12:26] <tommy``> the 2 AP are in different places far away, Infostrada is my job, NETGEAR is at home
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[12:27] <friendofafriend> Yeah, I guess it's possible wpa_supplicant finds another AP called NETGEAR at your home, tries to authenticate and fails.
[12:27] <friendofafriend> It is a default SSID, so it's very common.
[12:28] <tommy``> maybe when i'm at home he try to search the previously that i was connected to?
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[12:29] <friendofafriend> An easy way to fix that possibility is to include a bssid= line in each network stanza.
[12:29] <Snert> It's easy to rule out ip address starvation - check your dhcp server and see how many addresses are available to hand out to clients.
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[12:30] <friendofafriend> So you would find the MAC of your access points and include it like bssid=DE:AD:BE:EF:CA:FE in each network stanza.
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[12:30] <tommy``> how Snert?
[12:31] <Snert> check your dhcp server and see how many addresses are available to hand out to clients.
[12:31] <Snert> check your dhcp server and see how many addresses are available to hand out to clients.
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[12:31] <Snert> mouse button...grr... dubble paste.
[12:31] <tommy``> ok, but i dunno how to do this
[12:31] <tommy``> you mean on router?
[12:32] <Snert> where do your ip addresses come from? the netgear?
[12:32] <ShorTie> you need to go into the router
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[12:32] <tommy``> the ip address from home start from 192.168.0.2-192.168.254 (NETGEAR)
[12:32] <tommy``> i know this for sure
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[12:33] <tommy``> here is 192.168.1.100 to 192.168.1.150
[12:33] <Snert> so it's .2-.254 in the respective subnet with a class c mask I assume.
[12:33] <Snert> should be enough.
[12:34] <tommy``> yes
[12:34] <Snert> unless there some other device on your network chewing through ip addresses and occupying leases when it shouldn't.
[12:34] <Snert> but that's prolly not the problem.
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[12:35] <tommy``> only have 2 cellphones
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[12:36] <tommy``> friendofafriend: why you called my network "stanza" ? :D
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[12:39] <friendofafriend> Yeah, that chunk of network={ } is a stanza.
[12:40] <friendofafriend> And you've got two networks, so you've got two network stanzas in your wpa_supplicant.conf
[12:40] <tommy``> ok italian word for room
[12:40] <friendofafriend> Yeah, it's the same idea! :)
[12:41] <tommy``> so adding the BSSID could resolve it?
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[12:42] <tommy``> or maybe priority = 1 in the first one and priority 2 in second
[12:42] <friendofafriend> It's actually the other way around, I think. The highest number wins.
[12:43] <friendofafriend> So the first one would be 2, and the second would be 1.
[12:43] <friendofafriend> And by default all networks are 0.
[12:43] <BCMM> tommy``: i think, more directly, it comes from the english use of "stanza" to mean a verse in a poem
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[12:44] <tommy``> oohh ok BCMM, thanks ;)
[12:44] <tommy``> #priority groups will be iterated in decreasing priority (i.e., the larger the priority value, the sooner the network is matched against the scan results).
[12:44] <tommy``> friendofafriend: you right ;
[12:45] <friendofafriend> It's a little weird from how priority usually works. :)
[12:45] <tommy``> # Please note that AP scanning with scan_ssid=1 is not using this priority to select the order for scanning. Instead, it uses the order the networks are in the configuration file.
[12:46] <tommy``> i better remove it from both
[12:46] <tommy``> https://paste.ofcode.org/KAYLcvvhVnZeECWRjiYHbn
[12:47] <tommy``> maybe could cause some conflict?
[12:47] <friendofafriend> What could cause conflict? The scan_ssid line?
[12:47] <tommy``> yes both have 1
[12:48] <friendofafriend> That's for networks that don't broadcast their SSID with beacons.
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[12:48] <tommy``> mmh
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[13:19] <tommy``> packet_write_wait: Connection to 192.168.1.107: Broken pipe <----- during reboot
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[13:39] <seanrdev> I am attempting to enable a service I created an I'm wondering what is going wrong. https://pastebin.com/BkiisGMq
[13:40] <seanrdev> I am able to start the service but when executing systemctl enable athenadiagnostics.service I get an Failed to enable unit: Invalid argument
[13:40] <seanrdev> I placed the service file in /lib/systemd/system/athenadiagnostics.service
[13:40] <seanrdev> I ran systemctl daemon-reload received no errors.... Any assistance would be greatly appreciated
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[13:50] <larsks> seanrdev: you have a typo on line 14.
[13:50] <larsks> You meant "multi-user" but you spelled it "multi=user".
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[13:52] <chris_99> good spot
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[13:53] <seanrdev> larsks: Thanks that was a good one. However it didn't work but it did solve the next issue I would have had lol. Thanks.
[13:55] <larsks> seanrdev: that should have completely solved your "invalid argument" error. Did it not?
[13:57] <seanrdev> larsks: I attempted to run daemon-reload and then enabled but still the same error.
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[13:57] <seanrdev> The service starts fine though
[13:57] <seanrdev> https://bpaste.net/show/31d40902451e
[13:58] <seanrdev> Just can't get it to enable so I can run at startup
[13:58] <chris_99> what distro are you using out of interest
[13:59] <chris_99> as i've been using /etc/systemd/system/ for service files
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[14:02] <larsks> seanrdev: after I made that change to the file, I was able to enable it on my pi without a problem.
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[14:02] <larsks> chris_99: systemd looks in /lib/systemd, /etc/systemd, and /run/systemd for services.
[14:02] <chris_99> ah yeah i just found i have /lib/systemd too
[14:02] <larsks> Locally developed scripts typically go in /etc/systemd/system, but can also go in /lib along with all the packaged ones.
[14:02] <chris_99> gotcha, ta
[14:04] <tommy``> anyone tried/tested museek/museek+ ?
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[14:14] <seanrdev> larsks: Your absolutely correct. I changed it in the /lib/systemd/system/ however the change was also needed in /etc/systemd/
[14:14] <larsks> seanrdev: you shouldn't have the file in both places. That's going to cause no end of confusion.
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[14:28] <seanrdev> larsks: Thank you so much!!
[14:28] <larsks> Np!
[14:28] <seanrdev> Off to work for me.
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[14:33] <tommy``> http://paste.debian.net/1051526/ <--- i have error line 76
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[14:34] <larsks> tommy``: what is the error?
[14:35] <tommy``> some syntax error near the tokne
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[14:35] <tommy``> "fi"
[14:35] <tommy``> token*
[14:36] <larsks> Does it just say "syntax error" or is the error more specific than that?
[14:36] <tommy``> syntax error near token unexpecte d"fi"
[14:37] <larsks> It's because there is no code in the "else" block.
[14:37] <larsks> On line 75.
[14:37] <larsks> A comment doesn't count.
[14:38] <tommy``> oh! yes! i didn't see it
[14:38] <tommy``> thanks
[14:38] <Khaytsus> yep, bash is annoying like that
[14:38] <chris_99> python does that too i think?
[14:38] <larsks> ...or, you know, strict about syntax like that.
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[16:58] <mlelstv> you can use : as a placeholder
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[17:14] <tommy``> friendofafriend: still no disconnection from job's AP all works fine ;)
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[17:23] <friendofafriend> That's good news, tommy``! :)
[17:24] <tommy``> lets hoping when i came back home all will work too
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[17:28] <tommy``> friendofafriend: i asked to the guy who write the driver and he said that i will have to load wpa_supplicant manually because i'm not using any network manager
[17:29] <tommy``> maybe it's because i've retropie on pi2
[17:33] <friendofafriend> I'm not too sure about that, wpa_supplicant.conf certainly supports more than one network.
[17:33] <friendofafriend> You might have to restart the wpa_supplicant service manually? I dunno.
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[18:32] <Tenkawa> hi all
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[18:36] <shiftplusone> Tenkawa: hey
[18:36] <Tenkawa> if I want to use a pi zero with usb power/console whats the latest procedure.. it seems to keep changing
[18:37] <shiftplusone> Not sure I follow what the question is
[18:37] <Tenkawa> I'm building a new zero w
[18:37] <shiftplusone> you want it in gadget mode acting as a serial device?
[18:38] <Tenkawa> yep
[18:38] <Tenkawa> but theres been a lot of changes to dwc2 apparently
[18:38] <ShorTie> with raspbian-lite, how do i keep the screen from blanking ??
[18:39] <shiftplusone> Haven't tried it lately, but I'd look at gbaman's stuff
[18:39] <Tenkawa> ok.. I'll search
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[18:39] <Tenkawa> thanks
[18:39] <shiftplusone> ShorTie: https://wiki.archlinux.org/index.php/Display_Power_Management_Signaling#DPMS_interaction_in_a_Linux_console_with_setterm
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[18:43] <Tenkawa> shiftplusone: weird thing is I know its running because I can ssh into it fine.. it might be the cable is power only and missing rx/tx
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[18:43] <Tenkawa> I need to find one at home I can test data through
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[18:44] <Tenkawa> but i ssh'ed through the nic of course
[18:44] <gordonDrogon> might be a daft question, but are you sure you've plugged into the right �USB socket on the Pi 0 ?
[18:44] <Tenkawa> (wifi)
[18:44] <Tenkawa> yes
[18:44] <gordonDrogon> ok, just checking, as you were, etc. ...
[18:44] <Tenkawa> I verified that i wasnt powered into the power only one
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[18:45] <Tenkawa> oh well.. .at least my pi 3 is running last a champ
[18:46] <Tenkawa> er like
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[18:48] <Tenkawa> if I just get another usb to ttl/gpio cable i wont need to keep switching back and forth
[18:48] <Tenkawa> hehheheh
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[18:50] <shiftplusone> tried the loopback test?
[18:51] <shiftplusone> or does that not make sense in gadget mode
[18:51] <Tenkawa> I cant access the unit
[18:52] <Tenkawa> I have to be able to stage it
[18:52] <Tenkawa> i'm in a isolated environment
[18:53] <Tenkawa> thats why gadget or usb/ttl is so handy
[18:53] <Tenkawa> i tested wifi in a diff env
[18:53] <Tenkawa> just to test hardware
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[19:23] <Tenkawa> is there a good cross compiling document out there for compiling for raspberry pi's from x86/64
[19:23] <Tenkawa> ?
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[19:24] <Tenkawa> I want to use some of my extra hardware
[19:25] <friendofafriend> It's complicated.
[19:25] <shiftplusone> cross-compiling something with a ton of dependencies or something simple?
[19:26] <friendofafriend> The easiest way is probably using Linux-KVM.
[19:26] <shiftplusone> how does kvm help here?
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[19:27] <shiftplusone> And what build system? Autotools ('./configure && make')?
[19:28] <friendofafriend> Some information about it here, shiftplusone. https://ownyourbits.com/2017/02/06/raspbian-on-qemu-with-network-access/
[19:28] <Tenkawa> shiftplusone: various things... mostly just to experiment.. I was a build integrator in my younger days so this is all a rehash of familiar concepts wit h just different tools
[19:29] <Syliss> hmm, good thing for google docs, making lists will be so much easier
[19:29] <shiftplusone> friendofafriend: judging by that article, it doesn't. You can't use KVM to virtualise ARM. You can only use qemu without kvm here, which is slower than a pi3B+ on most machines.
[19:30] <Tenkawa> I found the cross compiler
[19:30] <Tenkawa> theres a gcc armhf
[19:30] <shiftplusone> Tenkawa: then maybe start by grabbing an appropriate toolchain (for example, from here https://github.com/raspberrypi/tools/tree/master/arm-bcm2708)
[19:31] <Tenkawa> thats the easy part
[19:31] <shiftplusone> the one in the ubuntu repos should work too
[19:31] <shiftplusone> yup
[19:31] <Tenkawa> yeah
[19:31] <shiftplusone> check that hello world builds. Then try to get an autotools project building
[19:31] <shiftplusone> You'll eventually need a raspbian rootfs to build against
[19:32] <shiftplusone> Or you can go friendofafriend's route and use qemu, but it will be slooow.
[19:32] <Tenkawa> shiftplusone: yeah I just wanted to see if anyone else was doing it with a 64 bit host and running into any hiccups
[19:32] <Tenkawa> yeah rootfs is my next plan
[19:32] <friendofafriend> Right, but then you really don't have the woes of cross-compilation at that point. You're building "on ARM".
[19:32] <gordonDrogon> sure it's not easier to just buy another Pi ?
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[19:33] <shiftplusone> https://stackoverflow.com/questions/39936341/how-do-i-use-a-sysroot-with-autoconf
[19:33] <Tenkawa> gordonDrogon: not nearly as fun
[19:33] <Tenkawa> yes I'm that odd
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[19:34] <[ghost]> hey guys, i am using an rpi as a torrent box, and have mapped a cifs/samba share. In my target for downloading, should i put the mount point, or the actual remote share path?
[19:34] <friendofafriend> The mount point.
[19:35] <Tenkawa> gordonDrogon: I still hope to see a all the way through 64 bit install on the pi someday
[19:35] <shiftplusone> I've done my share of cross-compiling and building natively. The best solution for cross-compiling I found that works every time is simple... just... just don't. Ended up shelling out company money on an arm build server and have lived happily ever after.
[19:35] <Tenkawa> even if its not really all that crucial
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[19:36] <Tenkawa> shiftplusone: indeed
[19:36] <Tenkawa> but like i said.. this is mostly for my own research
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[19:38] <[ghost]> friendofafriend, ok, makes sense. When would i see the file appear in the mount point or the remote share? At completion?
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[19:38] <[ghost]> cause i didnt see that in my testing
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[19:39] <friendofafriend> ghostboarder: In both places.
[19:39] <friendofafriend> The mount point is just a way to access the remote share.
[19:40] <ghostboarder> yeah gotcha. Was trying to monitor manually and wasnt seeing creation
[19:41] <ghostboarder> ty
[19:41] <ghostboarder> brb
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[19:41] <friendofafriend> yw, ghostboarder.
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[19:44] <Tenkawa> mind you these same cards work in win10 just fine
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[19:46] <Tenkawa> from what I read its some odd way this board way interfaces with the rtsx_usb driver
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[19:47] <shiftplusone> Tenkawa: have you gone through Linux From Scratch?
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[19:48] <Tenkawa> its one of these usb 3 root hub capable but the mmc cant seem to handle it.. if i connect it in through a usb adapter no problem
[19:48] <Tenkawa> shiftplusone: years ago yes
[19:48] <Tenkawa> so its definitely something specific to the card reader itself
[19:49] <friendofafriend> Tenkawa: Are you running the reader on your Raspberry Pi?
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[19:49] <Tenkawa> no.. this is a dell laptop
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[19:49] <Tenkawa> i'm just venting
[19:50] <Tenkawa> this machine is great except for that one quirk
[19:50] <shiftplusone> Tenkawa: there's Cross Linux From Scratch, which might be of interest if you want to do cross-compiley stuff for educational purposes.
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[19:50] <Tenkawa> shiftplusone: interesting... i'll take a look.. thanks
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[19:54] <BCMM> Tenkawa: there's also things like openembedded, which does cross-compilation in a more automatic sort of way
[19:55] <BCMM> Tenkawa: are you looking to cross-compile for raspbian, though, or looking to build a whole custom image?
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[19:56] <Tenkawa> raspbian
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[19:57] <Tenkawa> so I hope theres even a toolchain
[19:57] <Tenkawa> I know there are in stock debian
[19:57] <Tenkawa> I have armhf on here right now
[19:58] <BCMM> there have been arm distros that are designed for and built with cross-compiling infrastructure (maemo's scratchbox environment springs to mind), but raspbian is not one of them. afaik its packages are built on an dedicated ARM cluster
[19:58] <Tenkawa> good ole maemo
[19:58] <BCMM> seems like most hobbyists just build pi stuff on the pi
[19:58] <BCMM> yeah, i miss maemo
[19:58] <Tenkawa> same here
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[19:59] <Tenkawa> it was just the wrong time
[19:59] <Tenkawa> if it was around now it would probably have a following
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[20:01] <Tenkawa> I still have my nokia tablet sitting somewhere
[20:01] <BCMM> anyway, raspbian doesn't really have a scratchbox-esque thing. i imagine you could accelerate builds quite effectively by doing the actual make or whatever on the Pi, and using distcc to farm out the heavy lifting to a "real computer", though
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[20:02] <BCMM> you still need a cross toolchain for that ofc, but it does a lot to free you from having to think about all the stuff that's *not* the toolchain, like paths and library version
[20:02] <BCMM> ^versions
[20:02] <Tenkawa> yeah i was thing of using a distcc philosophy
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[20:03] <Tenkawa> one thing though if I can just get this single x86/64 machine built up with a proper cross toolchain it is lightning
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[20:06] <Tenkawa> I might have to think about building a "server" again
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[20:07] <Tenkawa> havent had one in years
[20:08] <BCMM> what defines a "server"?
[20:08] <BCMM> in this context
[20:09] <Tenkawa> BCMM: an actual piece of hardware sitting in one spot at home not moving
[20:09] <Tenkawa> haahaa
[20:09] <Tenkawa> most of my work is mobile
[20:09] <BCMM> i've been thinking about one of those. probably something ARM so it doesn't eat too much power when it's on 24/7
[20:09] <BCMM> (and probably not a Pi because of the lack of i/o bandwidth)
[20:10] <Tenkawa> BCMM: know any good vendors?
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[20:10] <BCMM> i couldn't possibly answer because i am in the process of waaaaaay overthinking this
[20:10] <Tenkawa> I just destroyed my other powerhouse arm box a few days ago
[20:11] <Tenkawa> and i think it was defective
[20:11] <BCMM> the rockpro64 is kind of exciting, amongst other things
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[20:11] <BCMM> or possibly the helios4 but that's kind of expensive and i'm not sure i want fans
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[20:14] <Tenkawa> I'd prefer fans honestly
[20:14] <Tenkawa> i have one heck of one on my rpi3
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[20:34] <Tenkawa> cheers all and thanks for the advice and ideas
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[20:55] <hodapp> are there any cheap-ish devices that have support for CSI cameras, and also some kind of fast I/O?
[20:56] <hodapp> though, I guess CSI support still doesn't necessarily get me a good API like something like picamera exposes
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[21:41] <Tenkawa> shiftplusone: hey you still around?
[21:43] <Tenkawa> I was being dense earlier... I did have a specific cross compile purpose in mind that I've done on other arch's many times and I found the rpi docs for... kernel compilations..
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[22:00] <waveform> hodapp, not really - and using the camera at that level is (from what I've heard) *fiendishly* difficult, largely because the camera registers are either not, or just barely/incompletely documented
[22:00] <waveform> (the firmware devs for the pi's camera have the "full" register docs under NDA from omnivision for the v1, and apparently even they're incomplete :)
[22:00] <hodapp> just curious, as I've seen that things like the NVidia Jetson and Hummingboard have CSI ports
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[22:04] <InventorTechie> Hello
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[22:41] <Martchus> https://archlinuxarm.org/platforms/armv8/broadcom/raspberry-pi-3 states that the aarch64 image for raspberry pi "has near full support for the device, including the VC4 graphics".
[22:42] <Martchus> I assume this assertion is wrong because the raspberry pi firmware isn't supported yet for 64-bit?
[22:45] <genr8_> its not wrong
[22:46] <genr8_> they just didnt get raspbian on 64-bit yet
[22:46] <genr8_> if you want 64-bit install Arch ARM 64
[22:47] <Martchus> genr8_: I have already done that and noticed that omxplayer isn't available because it depends on raspberrypi-firmware which is only available for 32-bit.
[22:48] <genr8_> so what. just one an incompatible program.
[22:49] <gordonDrogon> ... near full support...
[22:49] <Khaytsus> People apparently use pi's for media.
[22:49] <gordonDrogon> so they're not wrong, just not quite there yet. near ly there.
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[22:50] <genr8_> Khaytsus: groundbreaking
[22:50] <Khaytsus> To each their own I suppose
[22:51] <Martchus> Khaytsus: I actually don't intend to use it for media. I just want to play around and see what works and what not for now.
[22:51] <stiv> i thought kodi was the go-to app for media server
[22:52] <genr8_> you would want to use a compatible program......yes.
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[22:52] <Martchus> genr8_: It is not just one incompatible program. If I wanted to build ffmpeg or mpv with raspberry pi support enabled I needed that firmware package, too.
[22:52] <Martchus> (at least I think so)
[22:53] <genr8_> its part of the kernel
[22:53] <gordonDrogon> who needs 64-bit anyway... (says the man staring at a screen full of code from an 8-bit processor ;-)
[22:53] <genr8_> the reason they want you sticking on raspbian becuase people get dumb real fast when they venture off
[22:53] <genr8_> theres nothing to say those things CANT work in the future.. its just not ready
[22:54] <gordonDrogon> from what I understand, the foundation doesn't have the resources to create an support 2 separate raspbans.
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[22:54] <genr8_> eh
[22:54] <genr8_> kinda a cop out but ok
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[22:54] <gordonDrogon> which doesn't stop others creating 64-bit systems.
[22:54] <gordonDrogon> cop out? do feel free to donate money and people to them...
[22:54] <Khaytsus> Or... the need
[22:54] <genr8_> worse than Android not including IPV6
[22:55] <Khaytsus> Tell me, what does 64 bit raspbian get you
[22:55] <gordonDrogon> they are a charity, afterall.
[22:55] <genr8_> a 64-bit OS on a 64-bit CPU is not too much to ask
[22:55] <genr8_> my shit ass tablet runs 32 cause nobody cares
[22:55] <gordonDrogon> please keep it family friendly here.
[22:55] <genr8_> clearly we care about the Pi
[22:55] <Khaytsus> Benchmarked it to see if it is any faster?
[22:55] <gordonDrogon> and remember - they have multiple platforms. the Pi 0 and earlier ones are still 32-bit.
[22:56] <gordonDrogon> so from a management an support point of view, sticking to a single supported version makes a lot of sense.
[22:56] <gordonDrogon> especially when you consider the target: Education.
[22:57] <Martchus> one of the biggest advantages of a 64 bit system is the larger address space - an advantage which does not apply at all to the pi
[22:57] <gordonDrogon> I think it's good that I can take the same SD card I use on my Pi3b and boot it in my 6 year old Pi v1.
[22:57] <genr8_> i would have never let that come in the way of making a 64-bit release
[22:58] <genr8_> but ok you have valid points coming from a "defend the status quo" foundation we all know and "love"
[22:58] <Martchus> But likely aarch64 is also a bit faster when calculating with 64 bit integers. Some benchmarks regarding that would be interesting.
[22:59] <gordonDrogon> genr8_, please do volunteer to work for their charity to provide and maintain the 64-bit version.
[23:00] <gordonDrogon> it's nothing about maintaining status-quo, it's the stark reality of needing money and resources.
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[23:00] <Martchus> "a 64-bit OS on a 64-bit CPU is not too much to ask" - I support that - and I care (eg. https://github.com/RPi-Distro/python-gpiozero/issues/688).
[23:02] <Martchus> https://github.com/raspberrypi/firmware - that repo only contains binary blobs if I'm not mistaken
[23:02] <Martchus> So how would I contribute there?
[23:02] <zeedee> Anyway to make sure usb wifi is wlan1? It gets detected first at boot so ends up with wlan0. I have seen some stuff about messing with udev but I had it setup before and never messed with rules.
[23:02] <zeedee> Thanks
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[23:03] <Martchus> zeedee: should be quite simple
[23:03] <zeedee> I'd appreciate even a keyword to Google...
[23:04] <friendofafriend> ifrename?
[23:04] <Martchus> on my arch linux system (not pi) I just created a file /etc/udev/rules.d/10-network.rules and put "SUBSYSTEM=="net", ACTION=="add", ATTR{address}=="$THE_MAC_ADDRESS", NAME="$THE_DEVICE_NAME"" in it
[23:04] <Martchus> it should work on the pi in the same way
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[23:05] <mlelstv> with or without systemd fighting your sanity?
[23:05] <zeedee> I appreciate both of your help. If ifrename doesn't help I will fall back on the udev rules
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[23:06] <genr8_> i will totally consider ways to get a 64-bit video player on it in the near future and report back
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[23:08] <genr8_> i'm finding enough github issues and forum threads to lead me to believe this is happening soon
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[23:12] <Martchus> genr8_: ok
[23:12] <genr8_> if you want to see how complicated it is, go here : https://lkml.org/lkml/2015/12/15/737
[23:13] <genr8_> the fact that a lot of hard work already has been done gives me hope
[23:13] <ShorTie> there is pi64
[23:13] <Martchus> genr8_: I've just attempted to build omxplayer for aarch64 and the first problem I've ran into isn't even the absense of the firmware headers/libs. It seems to use unappropriate CFLAG hardcoded in the Makefile ...
[23:14] <genr8_> heh
[23:14] <genr8_> gotta love those
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[23:15] <ShorTie> need to check your configure options it sounds like to me
[23:15] <Martchus> genr8_: thanks for the lkml url, let's see whether I understand it...
[23:15] <Martchus> ShorTie: configure options? that thing apparently uses a hand-written makefile
[23:15] <genr8_> thats a lot of flags...
[23:15] <ryden> Hey there. Is it possible to make my raspberry pi to connect to a USB port in my computer and behave as a mouse/keyboard? Would I do this with one of the existing USB ports or would I need to use GPIO + serial->usb cable?
[23:15] <genr8_> https://github.com/popcornmix/omxplayer/blob/master/Makefile
[23:16] <genr8_> its fucked that its using a makefile instead ot gnu make / autotools for such a thing
[23:16] <genr8_> sorry language
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[23:18] <Martchus> genr8_: I know, I've also just looked into the Makefile.
[23:18] <ShorTie> might need to start off with a 'autoreconf -fiv' 1st
[23:19] <Martchus> genr8_: but likely it is better to go for ffmpeg + mpv anyways
[23:19] <ShorTie> aarch64 is new, and not all things know about it
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[23:20] <Martchus> ShorTie: autoreconf would be useful if it would using autotools but it doesn't
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[23:20] <genr8_> ShorTie: autoreconf: 'configure.ac' or 'configure.in' is required
[23:20] <genr8_> this is what we're talking about
[23:20] <genr8_> it doesnt use that.
[23:21] <genr8_> sad.
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[23:23] <Martchus> ffmpeg is using a hand-written configure script, too
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[23:24] <Martchus> but I hope it works more nicely, though
[23:24] <genr8_> well ffmpeg we know is hard thats why i skipped that
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[23:28] <genr8_> we need The OpenMAX AL API -lopenmaxil
[23:29] <genr8_> this is interesting. -D_LARGEFILE64_SOURCE -D_FILE_OFFSET_BITS=64 -DOMX_SKIP64BIT but yet it uses this CFLAG -mstructure-size-boundary=32
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[23:34] <Martchus> "we need The OpenMAX AL API -lopenmaxil" - yes
[23:35] <Martchus> not sure why " -D_LARGEFILE64_SOURCE -D_FILE_OFFSET_BITS=64 -DOMX_SKIP64BIT" would be problematic together with "CFLAG -mstructure-size-boundary=32"
[23:36] <VladTheImplier> Hey all! For a timed event I want many RPi's to fire simultaneously. I'd like to connect then all up via GPIO and just set one RPi GPIO high to make all the others register. Like a push switch, but triggered from another RPi. Can I do this? How would I have to wire it up?
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[23:38] <[ghost]> guys, have a question about user accounts and remote authentication etc. I am running Deluged on my rpi and also deluge-web to use the client thru browser. The application is running (i think) under the user deluge, which also has a root user priv acct on the pi. I also used the deluge account to mount a cifs/samba share on my nas box, so all perms should be fine. I keep having a "storage move failed" error when
[23:38] <[ghost]> having deluge move the file from the download dir (pi/Downloads), to the mount point
[23:38] <[ghost]> i am aware that the download is going to the Downloads dir of the pi user instead of the deluge user, but trying to send it to the deluge user stop the torrent from downloading
[23:39] <[ghost]> since the deluge user is also root locally and has read/write perms for the remote share, shouldnt this work?
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[23:39] <Khaytsus> /join #deluge
[23:39] <genr8_> we dont know what you did to your bunk config
[23:39] <[ghost]> lol
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[23:40] <genr8_> try writing files from the command line
[23:40] <[ghost]> thanks again Khaytsus!
[23:40] <genr8_> touch /mnt/point/file
[23:40] <Martchus> VladTheImplier: That's doable for sure. I've once programmed a chat using stm32 boards and GPIO for a university project and we just used the good old ring topology :-)
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[23:40] <[ghost]> genr8_, Khaytsus will rip me a new one if i stay
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[23:40] <[ghost]> thanks tho, #deluge is dead so i was cross posting
[23:41] <genr8_> its not really an IRC question. either your permissions are messed up or you're not using deluge right
[23:41] <VladTheImplier> Martchus: I don't want a ring topology, I'd like all to be wired up in parallel and just to trigger a single true statement.
[23:41] <VladTheImplier> Can this be done?
[23:41] <VladTheImplier> Can one Raspberry.Pi read / wait a GPIO high and another set it?
[23:42] <genr8_> VladTheImplier: i was thinking, it should work for 1:1 but 1 to many, the voltage would drop and maybe not work so you'd need some relays or smoething?
[23:43] <Martchus> yep, 1:1 should work but for more I'm not so sure
[23:43] <VladTheImplier> genr8_: that's what I feared. It's 1 to 47 and I'd like to avoid broadcast packages via LAN to keep thing simple, thought maybe you could GPIO set to true. Even so, how would you wire it up?
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[23:44] <Martchus> the ring wasn't that bad btw (only problem is if one device got hangs of course)
[23:44] <genr8_> You would have a little powered hub
[23:44] <genr8_> one being a master, and the 47 being slaves
[23:44] <genr8_> you'd have to make a little GPIO routing circuit
[23:44] <genr8_> luckily its simpler than that sounds
[23:45] <genr8_> GPIO bout the simplest thing you can do
[23:45] <VladTheImplier> Martchus: is there a resource / link you could give to read up on it?
[23:46] <genr8_> this should get you up to speed on the electrical side https://oldwiki.archive.openwrt.org/doc/hardware/port.gpio
[23:46] <Martchus> VladTheImplier: not really, I was using stm32 borads - but if a ring isn't what you want anyways ...
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[23:48] <VladTheImplier> genr8_: OK thanks, will read through it. And for one GPIO to another GPIO? Would I just connect the two GPIO's, set one to read the other to write an I could send a true / false that way?
[23:48] <genr8_> should be able to
[23:49] <Martchus> btw, I've just tried to compile ffmpeg and its build script seems to work nicely
[23:50] <Martchus> unfortunately it tells me nicely that mmal is not available
[23:51] <VladTheImplier> genr8_: OK, interesting. Not very knowledgeable in electronics, but why doesn't it scale? I thought voltage stays the same when parallel wired up. Why does the voltage drop if it goes.form one gpio to two?
[23:51] <Martchus> let's see what happens if I only compile with --enable-omx-rpi but not --enable-mmal
[23:51] <VladTheImplier> That's how I connect my LEDs. 4 LED's to one 3.3 V source and all receive 3.3 V
[23:52] <genr8_> with no resistors ?
[23:52] <VladTheImplier> Resistors of course
[23:52] <VladTheImplier> But the question stands regardless
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[23:53] <genr8_> k. forget what i said. its the same concept as that. the resistor value would be modded.
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[23:53] <waveform> VladTheImplier, what's the ultimate goal - what's the "something" you want 48 Pis to do simultaneously?
[23:54] <VladTheImplier> genr8_: trigger a photo. A single true event.
[23:54] <waveform> ahhh, thought it might be that
[23:55] <waveform> next question: what camera?
[23:55] <VladTheImplier> Was just wondering why it was said, that the voltage would drop over many connected PI's and that the GPIO would not read true, I thought connecting stuff in parallel does not drop vpltage
[23:55] <genr8_> you're assuming you had unlimited current
[23:55] <genr8_> which you dont. the Pi is current limited on GPIO pins
[23:55] <genr8_> and 47 might tax that to the max
[23:56] <genr8_> but you're not wrong, maybe i misspoke
[23:56] <VladTheImplier> waveform: RPI camera module. Just want the other PI's to read gpio true and take the photo, without the broadcast packets.
[23:56] <waveform> ahh, thought that might be it as well
[23:57] <waveform> okay - first thing: just use a UDP broadcast; you're in a non-RTOS so it'll be about as accurate as a GPIO edge (you can't stop an interrupt getting in the way of reacting to either)
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[23:57] <VladTheImplier> genr8_: OK, GPIO has a 50ma limit as I recall from my head. I thought though, that signals like that don't "eat" much current.
[23:57] <waveform> second thing: to get serious good (sub-frame) sync between multiple camera modules you need them all to be running exactly the same firmware level, and all the cameras need to be initialized simultaneously too
[23:58] <waveform> when you request a capture you're not really requesting a capture - you're actually requesting the next complete frame that happens to stream from the module (which will be streaming as soon as you initialize the camera)
[23:58] <VladTheImplier> waveform: I am aware of that, as I recall you cannot take an image more precice than 1/15s.
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[23:59] <genr8_> VladTheImplier: you can certainly try hooking a bunch of em up and measuring the voltage coming out of the output pin with a multimeter. Would be a good youtube video
[23:59] <VladTheImplier> I thought you cannot initialize simultaneously. So is that possible?
[23:59] <waveform> if you can capture a photo simultaneously, why can't you init the module simultaneously?
[23:59] <genr8_> init may be undefined startup time

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