#raspberrypi IRC Log

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IRC Log for 2018-11-17

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[2:02] <ijash> hi... is it possible to install mongodb4 in rasberry pi? using raspbian core?
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[5:50] <JakeSays> ijash: i'm sure it is, although not sure how functional it would be given the pi's limited memory.
[5:52] <ball> I should go to bed.
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[8:25] <ozzz> hello!
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[8:26] <ozzz> guys, I flashed sd card with freebsd, but system has only 118mb of ram
[8:26] <ozzz> I have model B
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[8:27] <ozzz> setting gpu_mem in config.txt not frees ram
[8:27] <ozzz> why that happens?
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[8:35] <mlelstv> why do you think it has only 118mb ?
[8:38] <mlelstv> also check if gpu_mem_256 or gpu_mem_512 are set.
[8:39] <Zardoz> model B only has 256MB does it not?
[8:39] <mlelstv> rpi1 model b
[8:40] <Zardoz> chedcking
[8:40] <mlelstv> with gpu_mem=128 (or gpu_mem_256=128) this should give about 118mb free memory for the system
[8:41] <ozzz> I tried to set both gpu_mem and Gpu_mem to 16 mb, but it not works
[8:41] <ozzz> yeah rp1 model B
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[8:42] <ozzz> I don't need gpu at all, I use it from 2011y as my tiny server
[8:42] <mlelstv> you always need the gpu, but you can reduce memory for it to 16
[8:42] <ozzz> on linux that options worked very well
[8:42] <mlelstv> 16mb
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[8:43] <Zardoz> yeah 16 is low as you can go...
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[8:44] <ozzz> I had 4mb for gpu on linux
[8:45] <mlelstv> aha
[8:46] <mlelstv> apparently the split is configured in the dts file too
[8:46] <ozzz> in boot loader?
[8:47] <Zardoz> some of the memory splits are odd in some of the older model Bs
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[8:57] <mlelstv> apparently, at least for freebsd-10, you had to configure the split not only in config.txt but also in the dtb file.
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[9:09] <ozzz> mlelstv: thanks, I'll try to fix it
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[9:39] <ozzz> mlelstv: well, this is not easy at all ) requires recompilation of image
[9:40] <ozzz> better to ask freebsd guys, meybe they have already built image for my needs )
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[9:46] <mlelstv> yes
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[9:46] <mlelstv> I also wonder why it should be necessary
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[10:40] <CyberManifest> I'm missing $HOME/.local/bin from $PATH here on latest version of Raspbian, what's the proper way to add it ? Does it come before or after existing $PATH ?
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[10:44] <zap0> where can i get official iso images?
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[10:49] <BurtyB> zap0, https://www.raspberrypi.org/downloads/ (they're SD/USB images rather than iso tho)
[10:49] <zap0> BurtyB are you sure? i tried getting a .torrent file from there and it reported corrupted.
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[10:53] <BurtyB> zap0, yes, if you use raspbian then you just need to follow the installation instructions linked on the page
[10:54] <Lartza> Reported corrupted?
[10:54] <zap0> when i put the .torrent file in the client app, it says the .torrent file is corrupted
[10:55] <Lartza> All six work for me
[10:56] <zap0> ok
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[11:17] <friendofafriend> CyberManifest: You would add PATH="$HOME/.local/bin:$PATH" to ~/.profile .
[11:17] <CyberManifest> export PATH=$HOME/.local/bin:$PATH
[11:18] <CyberManifest> https://github.com/pypa/pip/issues/3813
[11:18] <CyberManifest> friendofafriend: thanks :)
[11:18] <CyberManifest> I'll modify ~.profile
[11:18] <friendofafriend> CyberManifest: You're welcome. You'll have to log back in, but the changes in ~/.profile will persist. :)
[11:19] <Lartza> And about it coming before or after, it searches in order. So now it'll use a bin from your homedir first instead of /usr/bin
[11:20] <friendofafriend> The profile that comes with Raspbian also automatically adds ~/bin, if it exists, to your path. So you could just link ~/.local/bin there.
[11:20] <friendofafriend> Like, ln -s ~/.local/bin ~/bin
[11:21] <CyberManifest> friendofafriend: it looks like it's already in there but for BASH but I'm running ZSH and it's in a IF section, where would I place the modification, at the very bottom?
[11:23] <friendofafriend> The IF statement in ~/.profile is because there is a test to see if the directory exists.
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[11:24] <friendofafriend> You could just add the line to the bottom, and it with set PATH as you want, with no tests.
[11:26] <CyberManifest> friendofafriend: I modified it like this... http://dpaste.com/03V8G8E how does it look?
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[11:28] <Lartza> CyberManifest, Unsure what you modified since I don't know the original but, you copied the first if? That looks fine to me
[11:28] <CyberManifest> misspelled "hidden"
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[11:28] <Lartza> It's just a comment so doesn't really matter what it says :)
[11:29] <friendofafriend> I think he's talking about lines 26 through 29.
[11:29] <friendofafriend> Looks perfectly fine, CyberManifes.
[11:30] <friendofafriend> Sorry, CyberManifest**.
[11:30] <CyberManifest> typically does ~/.local/bin take precedence over ~/bin or is it the other way around?
[11:30] <friendofafriend> It's up to you, but usually your personal bin directory takes precedence over the rest of the path, so it comes first.
[11:31] <gordonDrogon> echo $PATH for the precidence order.
[11:31] <CyberManifest> but which personal bin the hidden one or the visible one?
[11:31] <CyberManifest> gordonDrogon: it's not in there that's why I'm adding /modifying
[11:31] <friendofafriend> The visible one will not be added, because that directory (~/bin) doesn't exist.
[11:32] <CyberManifest> neither did ~/.local/bin till I added it manually
[11:32] <Lartza> .local/bin is newer, I don't think it's common to have them both in PATH
[11:32] <Lartza> But I'd say .local/bin should take precedence over bin personally
[11:33] <Lartza> But that may just be loose logic and personal preference :)
[11:33] <CyberManifest> Lartza: I think I'll make .local/bin precede /bin in the config, thanks for the insight of it being "newer"
[11:33] <CyberManifest> Lartza: just read, yeah I agree
[11:33] <friendofafriend> In the config, you mean in .profile?
[11:34] <gordonDrogon> first I've seen a .local/bin thing.
[11:34] <Lartza> Like overall, which path is GENERALLY the higher order one is what they ask
[11:34] <Lartza> But I don't think distros generally have both. .local is rarer and started with Python afaict
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[11:34] <friendofafriend> It doesn't matter the order in .profile, ~/bin doesn't exist and won't be added to the path.
[11:34] <gordonDrogon> ah, a python thing.
[11:34] <Lartza> Not in this case no
[11:35] <CyberManifest> Better... http://dpaste.com/0HPBMY2 ?
[11:36] <friendofafriend> CyberManifest: Either way will result in the same path.
[11:36] <CyberManifest> gordonDrogon: typically "pip" uses ~/.local/bin for scripts
[11:36] <Lartza> Ubuntu does add .local/bin after bin but I am not sure why
[11:36] <gordonDrogon> ok. I don't use python, so ...
[11:36] <Lartza> I just use venvs, so they don't go to ~/.local/bin :P
[11:37] <Lartza> CyberManifest, This is most likely fine for your use, just run with it :)
[11:37] <CyberManifest> friendofafriend: no, cause one will be $HOME/.local/bin:$HOME/bin:$PATH and the other will be $HOME/bin:$HOME/.local/bin:$PATH
[11:38] <Lartza> But if you never make the bin folder, it doesn't matter
[11:38] <gordonDrogon> from a security point of view it's arguably better to have your own/local stuff after the system stuff in $PATH, and never '.' in the $PATH either. if you had ~/bin (etc) at the start, then you can over-ride system utils and this can be a source of confusion and/or securtiy on multi-user systems...
[11:38] <CyberManifest> Lartza,true
[11:38] <Lartza> gordonDrogon, But this for ~/.profile, some of those points only apply to /etc/profile or /etc/skel/profile modifications
[11:39] <gordonDrogon> it's still good practice..
[11:39] <CyberManifest> gordonDrogon: then why is it the accepted norm of systemd? See the checked Answer: https://unix.stackexchange.com/questions/316765/which-distributions-have-home-local-bin-in-path
[11:39] <Lartza> CyberManifest, I guess the OTHER way to look at is, if you want to override ~.local/bin manually you put stuff in ~bin, so truly, it's totally up to the user what they want to have
[11:39] <gordonDrogon> probably moot now that everyone has root though, but in the bad old days ...
[11:40] <gordonDrogon> CyberManifest, I've no idea - I don't use systemd.
[11:40] <CyberManifest> gordonDrogon: you on Slackware?
[11:40] <gordonDrogon> raspbian, debian and devuan.
[11:41] <Lartza> I mean to be fair, two of those distros use systemd ;)
[11:41] <gordonDrogon> sure, but you can trivially remove it.
[11:41] <CyberManifest> debian uses systemd by default
[11:41] <Lartza> Yeah, for better or worse...
[11:42] <gordonDrogon> for freedom of choice.
[11:42] <friendofafriend> Freedom of putting it back like it was.
[11:42] <CyberManifest> well I'm off to reboot real quick to test things out
[11:42] <CyberManifest> bbib
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[11:42] <Lartza> Someone has to maintain that freedom though, that's probably why most distros omit that freedom
[11:42] <Lartza> Or do something half-rudeworded like Debian :P
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[11:42] <gordonDrogon> maybe I'm just old, but I like it the way it is.
[11:43] <Lartza> I mean old inits aren't the worst thing in the world, and something in between would have probably been what a lot of people wanted
[11:44] <gordonDrogon> oh, it's far from perfect, just familiar.
[11:44] <Lartza> (Between systemd and the old ones, so modern and robust that works without issues, but doesn't do quite as much as systemd overall does)
[11:44] <gordonDrogon> I think people just got lazy and init scripts got bloatier and bloatier.
[11:44] <gordonDrogon> that could have been fixed, but no real initiative/momentum to do so.
[11:45] <Lartza> I mean the initiative is the new init systems I guess
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[11:45] <gordonDrogon> or re-writing, "leaning" up the daemon startup scripts.
[11:46] <Lartza> But like I said, holdouts like Debian complicate even the move to systemd
[11:46] <CyberManifest> it worked
[11:46] <CyberManifest> thanks peeps
[11:46] <Lartza> With there being various compatibility layers and some daemons never getting a systemd unit so far, for no real reason
[11:46] <gordonDrogon> you mean devuan? debian is already systemd enabled..
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[11:46] <Lartza> A LOT of the initscripts still exist, and systemctl just runs them
[11:47] <Lartza> Instead of having a proper systemd unit
[11:47] <CyberManifest> anyone know why my hexchat client would be crashing when issuing command: /sysinfo ?
[11:47] <gordonDrogon> that'll be nothing more than the same laziness in the maintainers that creates th bloaty scripts in the first place - maybe? who knows. I don't actually care.
[11:47] <friendofafriend> I do so adore Barbie the Debian Developer. <3 https://blog.halon.org.uk/2014/11/barbie-the-debian-developer/
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[11:48] <Lartza> gordonDrogon, I don't know either. It has been like this ever since the switch unlike the cold turkey approach of Arch, /etc/init.d/mumble-server, /etc/init.d/mysql :S
[11:48] <Lartza> And continues to be so in Debian 10/buster
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[11:49] <Lartza> That's four years after the supposed switch to systemd
[11:49] <gordonDrogon> lazy developers then :)
[11:50] <Lartza> But the core developers enable that by enabling systemctl to manage throuch /etc/init.d too so
[11:50] <Lartza> *through
[11:50] <Lartza> Backwards compatibility? Core devs too lazy to figure out /etc/default for systemd? Who knows :S
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[11:51] <gordonDrogon> also the *BSDs. if some bigPackage wants to keep the BSD people happy then either they or the BSD people will need to keep some sort of init script
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[11:55] <Lartza> Nothing stops a project from shipping two initscripts, a lot of them do. A lot are written by the package maintainers though
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[12:02] <mlelstv> I'd say most init scripts were created by the packagers. Different systems had different requirements even for these.
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[13:51] <tommy``> hey, howdy all people!
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[14:13] <beano66> howdy folks. right now building a quite large application for my raspberry b+ on said raspberry. i started the make process with the -j4 argument. but would love to know if someone of you knows, if i should rather use maybe 3 threads instead, would this maybe help speeding up the buildprocess?
[14:13] <beano66> not sure how good this slow processor would handle that many threads.
[14:14] <gordonDrogon> is it a b+ or a 3b+ ?
[14:14] <beano66> 1 b+
[14:14] <gordonDrogon> then -j3 won't help you.
[14:14] <gordonDrogon> (or even j4)
[14:15] <gordonDrogon> best not to use -j at all - at least that's been my experience with building my BASIC interpreter (35K loc, 110 files)
[14:15] <beano66> yeah thought so... developer of the application told me he was compiling on his b+ as well, and that he used 4 threads as well.
[14:15] <gordonDrogon> using -pipe to gcc (if it's a C thing) can help a little though.
[14:16] <gordonDrogon> the main thing to watch is RAM use. If it ever starts to swap, then it's game over.
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[14:16] <beano66> hm, looks like i will have to stick with the make without arguments.
[14:16] <beano66> could i maybe emulate an armv6l via qemu, and compile the package over there?
[14:17] <beano66> installing it onto my raspberry?
[14:17] <beano66> i've looked into crosscompiling, but that really is way above my head.
[14:17] <gordonDrogon> I think that might be slower.
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[14:17] <gordonDrogon> get a pi 3b+ for fastest compile.
[14:17] <beano66> after 12 hours of compiling i am only lose to 40% ^^
[14:18] <gordonDrogon> the 3b+ will be more than 4 times faster. I think my (full) compile went from 120 seconds down to 19 seconds or something daft like that.
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[14:19] <friendofafriend> You could always add a big honkin' heatsink and overclock.
[14:19] <beano66> yeah, makes sense, as it has 4 cores
[14:19] <gordonDrogon> on a 1b+ - you might gain 5% ...
[14:20] <mfa298> beano66: you can use qemu with a raspbian image like that but by defult it emultes arm7 which is fine in most cses but i hd issues with a few things
[14:20] <gordonDrogon> however the 1b+ ought to be stable at 900Mhz, so worth trying that if not already.
[14:20] <beano66> yeah, i'll just have to hope it will run through without any problems.
[14:20] <friendofafriend> Happily at 900MHz on a 1B+ with a little aluminum northbridge sink.
[14:20] <tommy``> guys do you know something to bind and record which button are pressend on joystick ? (i know jstests)
[14:20] <beano66> but maybe this device is just not the right one for my project in mind, that will involve some hashing
[14:21] <beano66> or to say, a f***ing lot of hashing
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[14:22] <friendofafriend> tommy``: Are you trying to get your joystick to send keyboard keystrokes?
[14:22] <ijash> HELP: i am struck at "Scanning bus 0 for devices" during raspberry bootup using ubuntu server 18/04
[14:22] <ijash> HELP: i am struck at "Scanning bus 0 for devices" during raspberry bootup using ubuntu server 18.04
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[14:22] <ijash> HELP: i am stuck at "Scanning bus 0 for devices" during raspberry bootup using ubuntu server 18.04
[14:23] <tommy``> hi friendofafriend! I would like to record a series of button pressed (like the konami code) and verify if they are the same of fixed sequence, if the button pressed are correct then <do something>
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[14:28] <gordonDrogon> sounds like the "Simon" game ...
[14:29] <tommy``> gordonDrogon, the idea could be similar, yes, i would like to have an easter-egg for my arcade cabinet: if someone launch the classic "hadouken" combo it starts a mp3 playlist
[14:30] <friendofafriend> Are you already running joy2key or something like it?
[14:30] <tommy``> yes i've installed joy2key
[14:30] <gordonDrogon> I know nothing about how a joystick works (usb?) but I've coded many simon games ...
[14:31] <tommy``> gordonDrogon there is a jstest program that allow to check which button are presesd
[14:31] <tommy``> https://github.com/recalbox/recalbox-os/wiki/Test-your-joystick-with-jstest-(EN)
[14:31] <gordonDrogon> I think the issue would be fitting a T into the pipe between the joystick and the game ...
[14:31] <tommy``> T?
[14:32] <gordonDrogon> put a T in a pipe - split it into 2.
[14:32] <friendofafriend> Right, you could use jstest to get the keystrokes, but it would block access to your joystick by other programs.
[14:32] <friendofafriend> Oh, nevermind, you can throw the --nonblock flag to jstest.
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[14:32] <friendofafriend> That's pretty handy.
[14:33] <tommy``> friendofafriend, you think that if something like emulationstation is running could exclude jstest?
[14:34] <friendofafriend> Normally programs block access to a device when using it, but jstest can be invoked like "jstest --nonblock <device>"
[14:34] <friendofafriend> So that will allow other programs to use the joystick, while you still get information through jstest.
[14:35] <tommy``> oh ok
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[14:36] <tommy``> i only found this:
[14:36] <tommy``> https://unix.stackexchange.com/questions/350132/using-a-shell-script-with-jstest-how-can-i-get-a-gamepad-to-interact-with-my-sc
[14:41] <friendofafriend> It would probably be easier with just a button code.
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[14:42] <tommy``> could you show me some examples?
[14:43] <friendofafriend> Many people set their arcade cabinets to have a hidden service button somewhere along the bezel. You could be extremely crafty and use a reed switch and magenet instead.
[14:44] <friendofafriend> magnet**, reed switch like used in alarm systems and things. https://www.sparkfun.com/products/8642
[14:45] <tommy``> never seen something similar
[14:45] <gordonDrogon> Heh.. the cool kids use hall-effect sensors now - why use mechanical when electronics!
[14:45] <friendofafriend> That way, you could just hold a magnet against a certain part of the cabinet and you're into a service menu.
[14:45] * friendofafriend is so not a cool kid. ;)
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[14:48] <tommy``> friendofafriend, you saw arcade cabinet with those switch?
[14:49] <friendofafriend> Yes, also soda machines, some kiosks have them. Pretty common.
[14:49] <tommy``> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=a1BUN9LMul4
[14:49] <friendofafriend> Handy when you don't want an exposed service button or keyswitch, or when you don't want to open the machine to press a button.
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[14:53] <Ririshi> Hello folks!
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[14:57] <mfa298> beano66: if you wanted to try emulating a Pi1 (arm6) on an x86 linux system I've done it (on fedora) by installing qemu-user-static, extracting the raspbian image then running `sudo systemd-nspawn -D Raspbian20181009/ -E QEMU_CPU=arm1176` where Raspbian20181009/ is the folder containing the extracted image.
[14:58] <beano66> mfa298 thank you very much for your attention regarding this.
[14:58] <mfa298> beano66: systemd-nspawn seems to handle the qemu stuff, mounts and a few other bits (you might be able to do the same with chroot and some mounts)
[14:58] <beano66> i would only do this in order to speed up the build process, which seemingly wouldn't do as stated inside this channel ^^
[14:59] <beano66> so i guess, theres no use in it. anyhow i had to emulate the armv6l and not the v7l
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[15:00] <mfa298> I think that would probably depend on your x86 system, I suspect it could be faster than a Pi1 compiling something big.
[15:01] <beano66> i was reading some benchmarks stating that as well. being 20% slower. too bad.
[15:02] <mfa298> I think when I compiled a big package on my old desktop it was slightly faster than compiling natively on a Pi3, and the Pi3 build didn't work on a Pi1 (some bits got compiled as arm7)
[15:03] <mfa298> you could always try it on a PC leaving the Pi going and see which finishes first.
[15:05] <mfa298> in my case the emulated env still sees all 8 cpu cores and 16gb of ram which probably helps.
[15:05] <Ririshi> I'm working on a project where we use RPi Zero Ws as temperature/humidity probes for our server room and office, and we would like to network boot them using the wireless interface provided on the RPi Zero W.. It seems, however, that the network bootmode can only be used with an ethernet connection. Would an alternative be to start them normally and have the kernel mount the root partition from a NFS server?
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[15:05] <mfa298> this is user level emulation rather than system emulation (which might be slower as you usually only dedicate some cpu cores and ram to the VM)
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[15:06] <tommy``> friendofafriend, i found also this https://github.com/workinghard/jslisten
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[15:14] <BurtyB> Ririshi, Pi Zeros can boot from SD or rpiboot (there the pi zero is a usb device) - using the SD you could boot, setup wifi in initramfs and mount nfs i guess
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[15:20] <Ririshi> I gotta be fair, I'm not knowledgeable about low-level development, but it isn't possible set up wifi (instead of ethernet) so that I can use network boot directly on the Pi Zero W?
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[15:32] <BurtyB> Ririshi, no
[15:36] <mfa298> Ririshi: how would you configure things like the SSID and password for the wifi to connect to, as BurtyB you could probably do it with an initramfs and kernel coming from an SD and everything else via NFS
[15:40] <friendofafriend> tommy``: Hey, great find! Thanks for tipping me off to that repo.
[15:41] <tommy``> nope sorry friendofafriend, i've noticed that jslisten only allow button pressed at once not sequences
[15:42] <tommy``> my idea is storing button pressed in a variable but i'm not in bash scripting
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[15:51] <tommy``> friendofafriend check the link i've sent you
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[16:35] <Ririshi> mfa298: wouldn't it theoretically be possible to preprogram the SSID/password into the bootcode?
[16:37] <Ririshi> Thing is you can't edit bootcode because it's proprietary :c
[16:38] <Ririshi> How can it initialize ethernet hardware before booting, but not wifi hardware?
[16:38] <BurtyB> Ririshi, iirc there are a few bytes you could write to but it's one time programmable and then you'd need space for the code to connect over wifi
[16:39] <Ririshi> there's a file called bootcode.bin that is invoked by the GPU ROM when booting
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[16:39] <Ririshi> https://raspberrypi.stackexchange.com/questions/10442/what-is-the-boot-sequence
[16:41] <Ririshi> My Pi 2B (my test device until I actually have a Pi Zero to work with) can network boot with bootcode.bin on an otherwise empty SD card
[16:41] <Ririshi> And theoretically, you could make bootcode.bin as large as you'd like, provided you can get the sources for it..
[16:42] <Ririshi> Or disassemble and write assembly to insert initialization code for the wifi lmao
[16:42] <Ririshi> I may just be talking rubbish but that's what I would logically think should be possible
[16:42] <BurtyB> Ririshi, good luck with that
[16:43] <Ririshi> I'll just ask the Raspberry devs to do that lmao
[16:46] <BurtyB> I wouldn't waste their time
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[16:47] <Ririshi> Wireless netbooting seems like a good thing to have
[16:48] <BurtyB> to me it sounds like a security issue in the making
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[16:48] <Ririshi> Well I guess you're much more knowledgeable in this topic than I am
[16:48] <Ririshi> But would you care to elaborate?
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[16:52] <BurtyB> Ririshi, well you'd only have one time memory to store your credentials in so they could never be changed and if there's an issue with the wifi implementation it's game over (remember it's taken a couple of versions to get network or usb booting to *mostly* work)
[16:53] <Ririshi> I'm not saying they should put it on the hardware itself
[16:53] <Ririshi> But to implement it in bootcode.bin
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[16:54] <Ririshi> Or are the contents of bootcode.bin usually stored in the OTP memory?
[16:55] <BurtyB> Ririshi, but why bother when you could do already on the SD card
[16:57] <gordonDrogon> Ririshi, from the keep it simple department: 1. boot off sd card as normal, get project going. 2. boot off SD card and have roon on nfs via wi-fi. 3. realise that (1) will be good enough and just do it ...
[16:57] <gordonDrogon> e.g. I have a Pi that controls an oven. 3 years later, it's still going - same SD...
[16:58] <gordonDrogon> anothe Pi that's a PBX - same there, runs 24/7 ..
[16:58] <Ririshi> I like to be unnecessarily complicated
[16:58] <Ririshi> Whenever I can
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[16:59] <Ririshi> My boss doesn't like it :(
[17:00] <BurtyB> good
[17:00] <gordonDrogon> remind me to never employ you.
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[17:04] <Ririshi> Let me rephrase that: I like elegant, perfectionist solutions
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[17:10] <gordonDrogon> premature optimisation is the root of all evil.
[17:11] <Ririshi> ...
[17:11] <Ririshi> The fact that it still works after three years, doesn't make it an elegant, optimised solution
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[17:11] <Ririshi> I want it conceptually elegant/perfect, not "practically workable"
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[17:12] <friendofafriend> Then do it that way, Ririshi.
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[17:13] <clever> Ririshi: one limitation to what you said above, i think the bootrom loads bootcode.bin directly into the L2 cache
[17:13] <gordonDrogon> so.. to bake bread. First grow the wheat ...
[17:13] <clever> Ririshi: so your limited by how much cache the system has
[17:13] <clever> Ririshi: and bootcode.bin is responsible for getting the dram working, and loading the next stage
[17:14] <Ririshi> But it also seems to initialize netboot @clever
[17:14] <clever> network is a lot simpler to init then wifi
[17:14] <Ririshi> I guess I just can't do it that way, though, friendofafriend
[17:14] <clever> you also dont need a name/pw to open ethernet
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[17:14] <Ririshi> So I'm going to try using BurtyBs method and init wifi in initramfs
[17:15] <Ririshi> then mount stuff with nfs
[17:15] <clever> yeah, thats a lot more workable
[17:15] <clever> many years ago, i made an initrd that would bring the wifi up, and then download the entire root disk image to a tmpfs
[17:16] <Ririshi> I should read up on initrd and initramfs first, I Guess
[17:16] <clever> Ririshi: one min...
[17:17] <friendofafriend> Might want to check out OpenWRT for a small image to netboot your Raspi.
[17:17] <clever> Ririshi: mkdir foo ; cd foo ; vi init ; find -type f | cpio -o -H newc | gzip > ../initrd.gz
[17:18] <clever> Ririshi: i think it was something like this, that will create an initrd with a file called init at the root (so /init when booting)
[17:18] <clever> Ririshi: the kernel will unpack the initrd to / and then run /init
[17:18] <clever> the fun part, is getting a usable shell (copy in busybox for ex) and then using it from /init, and then getting it to pivot_root when its done mounting things
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[17:22] <Ririshi> and /init is a shell script?
[17:22] <Ririshi> or is it a executable
[17:22] <Ririshi> wait lol there's nothing else loaded at that point
[17:23] <clever> it can be either
[17:23] <clever> if its a shell script with #!/bin/busybox, then /bin/busybox must also exist in the initrd image
[17:23] <clever> along with any dynamic libs busybox may need to start
[17:25] <clever> hmmm, my old haskell demo is currently 37mb!
[17:25] <Ririshi> never touched haskell before
[17:26] <clever> now, if i switch it over to musl .....
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[17:33] <Ririshi> Alright so... the kernel is loaded first, then it unpacks initrd.gz from the SD card, which then finalizes the boot-up by mounting the necessary devices?
[17:33] <clever> yeah
[17:33] <Ririshi> And the mounted device has its own /init file as well, right?
[17:33] <clever> yeah
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[17:34] <clever> but the initrd script can also parse the kernel params (via /proc/cmdline) and obey an init=/foo in the kernel config
[17:34] <clever> start.elf sets that via cmdline.txt i believe
[17:35] <clever> https://github.com/NixOS/nixpkgs/blob/master/nixos/modules/system/boot/stage-1-init.sh#L551
[17:35] <clever> in this /init script, it will mount all FS's configured, then use `mount --move` to move /proc to /mnt-root/proc (and other things)
[17:35] <clever> then use the switch_root binary to make /mnt-root the new / and run $stage2Init
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[17:36] <clever> it can help a lot to just copy busybox to /init, and do all of this by hand, to learn what is needed
[17:36] <Ririshi> So my initrd can connect to wifi because the raspi z kernel already loads wifi modules, and then download a root fs with NFS and mount it?
[17:36] <Ririshi> I'm gonna have a look at your link
[17:37] <clever> double-check `lsmod` and confirm if the modules are actually in the kernel
[17:37] <clever> you might need to include a copy of those modules in the initrd, along with the modprobe and insmod binaries
[17:38] <clever> there are also tools to auto-generate an initrd, but i dont know what they are called on debian/ubuntu, and they can sometimes get in the way when trying to do abnormal things like wifi+nfs
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[17:46] <Ririshi> Hmm
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[17:48] <Ririshi> Where should I search for the wifi modules
[17:50] <clever> Ririshi: the modinfo binary will tell you where a given module is
[17:50] <clever> and lsmod shows all currently loaded ones
[17:51] <BurtyB> Ririshi, lsmod will tell you what's loaded, if you put them in /etc/initramfs-tools/initramfs.conf they should be available when you're rebuilt initramfs but I imagine you'll need a script in there to handle the connect + the needed binaries/libraries/etc.
[17:51] <caoliver> I wonder if the RasPi3 A+ could be used to build a substitute for my very old broken Rio Karma?
[17:52] <caoliver> I.e. does it have enough Chutzpah for the DSP? (libresample + EQ)
[17:54] <clever> caoliver: i would expect it to have zero trouble with audio playback
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[17:55] <caoliver> So the main thing would be hacking a touchscreen hat for the UI.
[17:55] <caoliver> Something to add to my rainy day pile.
[17:56] <friendofafriend> There's a lot of distros built around playing audio from the Raspi.
[17:56] <friendofafriend> You may have some issues with the quality of audio coming from the Raspi itself; most of these projects use a separate DAC.
[17:56] <caoliver> It's something I just thought of, so I don't know the terrain at all.
[17:57] <caoliver> That's a bit of a bummer if you want to make a portable player.
[17:57] <friendofafriend> For example, you'll find Volumio can be used with a touchscreen. https://volumio.org/raspberry-pi-display-and-volumio-touchscreen-music-player/
[17:57] <friendofafriend> A separate DAC is the bummer?
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[17:57] <caoliver> As a replacement for something with an integrated DAC, yes it is.
[17:58] <friendofafriend> There's some that are really small and cheap, like this one. https://www.ebay.com/itm/PCM5102A-DAC-Decoder-I2S-32bit-Player-Module-Beyond-ES9023-PCM1794-Raspberry-Pi/401192259164?
[17:58] <clever> the old mp3 player may even have a seperate dac, on the same board
[17:58] <clever> caoliver: it might even be i2s, which the rpi supports
[17:59] <clever> you could maybe hack the very same dac (possibly even still on its original board) into being a slave to the pi, lol
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[17:59] <caoliver> I've not looked at the on-board audio, but I gather it can't do 16bit 44KHz stereo.
[18:00] <friendofafriend> The problem is more the noise.
[18:00] <clever> Ririshi: ok, that test was a failure, switching glibc->musl, results in the built binary going from 37mb to 1001mb, lol
[18:00] <friendofafriend> There's rather up-to-date and comprehensive discussion here. http://raspberrypimaker.com/cheap-quality-audio-raspberry-pi/
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[18:01] <caoliver> Ah. Much like the way ASUS Xonar isn't so great at capture given that part isn't well shielded.
[18:01] <BurtyB> friendofafriend, that site looks like a haven of malware
[18:02] <friendofafriend> Yes, but they kicked me a few Bitcoin for recommending it.
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[18:03] * caoliver is looking at Pi-DAC+ at VolumeIO
[18:04] <BurtyB> friendofafriend, idiot
[18:05] <friendofafriend> Don't you have a PiHole to go complain about?
[18:06] <friendofafriend> caoliver: You can get much higher quality audio from HDMI, but I don't know of any dirt-cheap adapters to convert from HDMI to 3.5mm jack.
[18:06] <friendofafriend> Something like this would work, but who wants to pay $10? https://www.amazon.com/VicTsing-Gold-Plated-Converter-Adapter-Laptop/dp/B016HL49OS
[18:06] <Khaytsus> I just use a random $5 USB sound card from amazon in my pi's for ham radio stuff, seems to be fine
[18:07] <BurtyB> friendofafriend, is that another paid link heading to malware ?
[18:07] <friendofafriend> What's wrong with you? Are you lashing out because your ad revenue is down? ;)
[18:07] <caoliver> The more I look, the more this seems unfeasible. Power requirements for one thing. The Karma was a pocket player which a number of nice things.
[18:07] * caoliver doesn't use a smart phone, so don't suggest that.
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[18:09] <Khaytsus> caoliver: You don't use a smart phone? so why not use your 1990's Zen player?
[18:10] <BurtyB> friendofafriend, this has nothing to do with what I do, you're the one sending people to link full of malware
[18:10] <caoliver> I'm trying to build something using a SBC that basically replaces the old Karma in a similar form factor and power consumption.
[18:11] <tommy``> BurtyB, friendofafriend is not a person that send a malware.
[18:11] <Khaytsus> caoliver: How would you select songs etc? Some tiny touchscreen?
[18:11] <friendofafriend> BurtyB: Sorry about that, can you recommend a link that makes you money?
[18:11] <caoliver> Khaytsus, there was a scroll wheel + buttons, but they were fragile. You could still do buttons on GPIO.
[18:12] <hodapp> no wireless. less space than a Nomad. lame.
[18:12] <Khaytsus> I'd just get an mp3 player honestly... You can get 'em cheap
[18:12] * caoliver doesn't give a $^% about wireless.
[18:13] <Khaytsus> I used to love my zen mx's.. credit card sized ish, thicker. but haven't used them in years
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[18:13] <caoliver> Because you bought into the smart phone surveillance economy.
[18:14] <caoliver> I also tend to reject convergence devices because you lose all functionality if the thing breaks.
[18:14] <BurtyB> tommy``, well they site has iffy adverts that's for sure
[18:15] <caoliver> All progress requires change, but not all change is progress.
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[18:16] <Khaytsus> Hey does anyone else have problems with PiHole's dnsmasq randomly stop working? I tried it for a few weeks here and it worked great to kill ads (even disabled ublock origin just to see how that did) but I had to manually restart dnsmasq no less than 5 times.
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[18:16] <Khaytsus> And when it crashed/quit/whatever, no dns resolution
[18:16] <caoliver> Hmm... anything showing with dmesg?
[18:16] <caoliver> Anything logged?
[18:17] <Khaytsus> Hmmmm... this was a while back when I last tried it full time but I seem to recall looking around and there was nothing obvious. I think it was actually still running, just.. dead?
[18:17] * caoliver has his internet running on an old Dell Optiplex which does a ton of other things too.
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[18:17] <Khaytsus> I put it on a pi I have running my home automation that's pretty much just sitting there oding nothing 99.9% of the time anyway
[18:17] <caoliver> I was wondering if dmesg showed a segfault or something like that.
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[18:18] <Khaytsus> Yeah good idea.. I don't think it was anything super obvious, I recall digging a bit. I might try it again.
[18:18] <Khaytsus> I DID also later make changes to reduce logging.. turned off query logs etc. I try to stop pretty much all writing on pi's
[18:18] <caoliver> My internet sits in a container. The box also serves files and this hexchat instance under xpra.
[18:18] <caoliver> It's the one box up 24/7.
[18:19] <caoliver> Given that you're on a SDCard, I can understand that.
[18:19] <friendofafriend> xpra is fantastic, can't recommend it enough.
[18:20] <Khaytsus> caoliver: Yep.. No point wearing the card when most of my pi's are pure utility.. camera, ham radio stuff, etc.
[18:20] <caoliver> I needed to hack it a bit to work with my Slackware setups. There are some SystemD assumptions that don't apply for me.
[18:20] <caoliver> Khaytsus, I had a similar setup running on an eeepc 701 that I used to run for my firewall. The whole thing was a kernel+initramfs.
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[18:21] <Khaytsus> caoliver: I thought about trying to parse the same files they use and use 'em in my normal named install here for my lan but I gave up... I forget what roadblock I ran into though now :/
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[18:23] <caoliver> My main issue with my new setup, is that I needed to construct several containers and pseudo-containers to separate my outward facing stuff from my internal services.
[18:23] <caoliver> I had to hack up some custom seccomp filters. That's NOT fun.
[18:24] <Khaytsus> caoliver: right now it was fine right off the bat. So I'm going to try it again on just my workstation with resolv.conf rather than modfying my dhcpd to advertise it
[18:24] <clever> Ririshi: wow, now the binary is 1.8mb!!
[18:25] <caoliver> I know this might do some writing, but you might try logsaving dnsmasq and running it foreground.
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[18:25] <caoliver> I.e. try to find out why it's falling over.
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[18:25] <caoliver> I've never seen dnsmasq die. I have seen it be slow on serving a DCHP reply.
[18:25] <Khaytsus> caoliver: I think for now I'll see if this behaves. If does, I'll change dhcpd.. and if it continues, maybe it was the logging that was... slowing it down? I dunno
[18:25] <Ririshi> What did you do clever?
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[18:26] <clever> Ririshi: i switched from dynamic linking with glibc, to static linking with musl
[18:26] <Ririshi> How does that reduce the size lmao
[18:26] <clever> Ririshi: dynamic linking means it depends on glibc, so glibc must be put into the initrd
[18:26] <Ririshi> Can I PM you clever?
[18:26] <clever> static linking just bakes the libc into the binary
[18:26] <clever> sure
[18:26] <caoliver> I need to clean up, visit the farmers' market, and then lug some drone tech (my big current RasPi project) out to a test facility.
[18:27] <caoliver> Today I want to see if I've got RTK GPS reporting location accurately.
[18:28] <caoliver> I had normal GPS, but the noise made it pretty bad for locating the unit.
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[18:36] <Khaytsus> caoliver: I use a usb gps on a 0W in the car for tracklogging. Works great. I gotta figure out how to make it not spew RFI into my ham radio equipment, but it works
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[18:37] <caoliver> In my case, we have custom software (yours truly) that needs high res GPS, so I'm messing around with a pair of Swift RTK units.
[18:38] <caoliver> Main issue I had was getting the console to work under slackware. The installation is completely old 'buntu. I wound up making a Xenial container, and I got that running.
[18:39] <caoliver> I tried a VM, but USB Serial passthrough has some flakiness, and that didn't work at all.
[18:40] <caoliver> The RasPi has nothing to do with that. That's on the ground based data acquisition/data reduction computer which is a conventional PC.
[18:40] <caoliver> The RasPi just reads the airborne stuff and relays it.
[18:41] <caoliver> Minimal computation done on the drone itself.
[18:41] <caoliver> Beyond that, I'm into NDA territory, so shhhh...
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[19:34] <Khaytsus> I love all the great guides on adafruit :D I got an si7021 temp/humidity sensor running in minutes
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[19:39] <Mezzmer> Just on first take, would a SONY LCD flatscreen reliant on DVI-I work plugged in a Rasperry Pi 3B+ with an HDMI adaptor?
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[19:52] <hodapp> hmmmm would guess yes but not certain
[19:53] <Mezzmer> Well I am testing now.
[19:54] <Mezzmer> Found an adaptor in the cupboard/box
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[19:58] <gordonDrogon> if you have hdmi to dvi adapter then it ought to work - as long as the display uses the digital part of the signal.
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[20:00] <Mezzmer> yes
[20:00] <Mezzmer> It's LCD for starters. Should work
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[20:01] <gordonDrogon> plug it in and see...
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[20:01] <Mezzmer> if it doesn't, this adapter is yet another maplins job that I don't use!
[20:02] <hodapp> the part I'm not clear on is whether the Pi will output in a format over HDMI that is compatible with the DVI the display expects
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[20:04] <Mezzmer> works.
[20:05] <Mezzmer> it's DVI-something, that is digital
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[20:05] <Mezzmer> RISC OS 5 even. It figured out the screen
[20:05] <Mezzmer> that's encouraging
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[20:07] <Mezzmer> now the thing that takes up desk space, another mouse and keyboard
[20:07] <gordonDrogon> so its working?
[20:07] <Mezzmer> here's a picture of
[20:08] <gordonDrogon> you can 'fix' the screen output and size in /boot/config.txt if it's not recognised though, but if it's going for you, just make sure it's plugged in and turnrd on before you power up the Pi.
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[20:10] <Mezzmer> https://usercontent.irccloud-cdn.com/file/NotGqKmR/1542481808.JPG
[20:10] <Mezzmer> it even accomodated my old monitor setup. Widescreen scaled it
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[20:10] <Mezzmer> sorry that's actually a bad picture
[20:11] <Mezzmer> gordonDrogon: in risc os 5?
[20:11] <Mezzmer> :D
[20:12] <gordonDrogon> the /boot partition is on the sd card - riscos probably can't see it, but if it's working OK, then you're ok and I'd not wory about it.
[20:12] <Syliss> Dang it. My lapdock. I wonder if I can find a new one. 😭
[20:12] <Mezzmer> Cheers anyway
[20:12] <Mezzmer> I got you.
[20:12] <gordonDrogon> Syliss, moto lapdock?
[20:12] <Syliss> Ya
[20:13] <gordonDrogon> neat. I have one, but not used it for a long time now.
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[20:13] <gordonDrogon> the connectors were just too flakey for me.
[20:13] <Syliss> Mine worked wonderfully.
[20:13] <gordonDrogon> mine was fine - until it got nudged, etc.
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[20:14] <Syliss> Lol. Yeah I bet. I was hard on mine too and still worked great. Unfortunately it wasn’t something I grabbed before my house turned to ash.
[20:15] <gordonDrogon> oh. west coast?
[20:16] <Syliss> Yep. Paradise.
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[20:16] <gordonDrogon> that's a bother.
[20:16] <Syliss> Ikr. At least pi’s are cheap
[20:16] <gordonDrogon> sure, but life isn't - and I read in the news that there are still many unaccounted for )-:
[20:17] <Syliss> There will most likely be around 1000 deaths. They just don’t want to come out saying that.
[20:18] <gordonDrogon> it's a bit grim.
[20:18] <Syliss> It is.
[20:18] <Syliss> More than 25% of the towns population was 65+
[20:18] <gordonDrogon> I spent some time in Livermore which is the only place I've really been over there.
[20:19] <Syliss> I lived in Livermore when I was younger.
[20:19] <gordonDrogon> I spent almost a year there - in & out of hotels.
[20:19] <Syliss> But I was a third generation resident of paradise.
[20:20] <Syliss> That sounds terrible.
[20:20] <gordonDrogon> not as terrible as the fires.
[20:20] <Syliss> Of course.
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[20:20] <gordonDrogon> I was working in Livermore Labs installing computer stuff.
[20:21] <gordonDrogon> I did get to go to Monteray most weekends though.
[20:22] <Syliss> I love monteray
[20:23] <gordonDrogon> I suspect it'll be years before anything over there is rebuilt.
[20:23] <gordonDrogon> I did a lot of diving.
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[20:59] <zleap> hi
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[21:28] <friendofafriend> Howdy, zleap.
[21:29] <zleap> hi how are you
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[21:34] <friendofafriend> Delightful! :) Are you having fun with a Raspi today?
[21:35] <zleap> well not using on atm,
[21:36] <zleap> one atm
[21:36] <zleap> but i ahve a few here
[21:36] <zleap> and a few netbooks with Raspbian on
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[21:45] <zleap> friendofafriend: so are you using a pi today?
[21:52] <friendofafriend> Oh gosh, yes. Today it's fiddling with a fresh install of Raspbian on a Pi Zero, taking another stab at getting a TFT LCD to work.
[21:54] <zleap> ah, yeah they have just relased a new version iirc
[21:54] <zleap> so i need to update some of the kit i have here
[21:56] <friendofafriend> A new version of Raspberry Pi? Maybe you mean the Raspberry Pi 3A+? :)
[21:58] <zleap> i mean rasbian, but yeah the pi 3 A+ is out too
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[22:00] <zleap> looks useful, esp with the networking support
[22:01] <zleap> the A+ is fine but you need a wifi dongle then you need to figure out how to configure that without a keyboard or mouse
[22:02] <gordonDrogon> same as any other Pi - you put the right stuff in /boot
[22:02] <zleap> yeah
[22:03] <zleap> but the built in wifi is useful it frees up the usb port
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[22:09] <friendofafriend> Agreed, it's very handy to have onboard wifi. Those BCM43438 chips are really great! They can do so much.
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[22:16] <zleap> plus as soon as you start adding things to a single USB port such as a hub, keyboard, mouse, wifi dongle does that add to current drain on a single port with older pis it did have issues,
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[22:33] <hodapp> people still use RISC OS?
[22:33] <hodapp> I booted that once on my Pi but didn't try to do much
[22:35] <zleap> i have a manual here from an acorn a3000 or something
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[22:55] <CyberManifest> How do I add my own user to this list: https://imgur.com/mk56KMP ?
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[23:02] <zleap> CyberManifest: are users not auto added to that list?
[23:03] <CyberManifest> zleap it appears not
[23:03] <zleap> have you added a new user
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[23:04] <CyberManifest> zleap I have another user "rkm" in the group "sudo" and even modified sudo privliges
[23:05] <CyberManifest> zleap: I followed this guide: https://www.raspberrypi.org/documentation/linux/usage/users.md
[23:05] <CyberManifest> and also did: "sudo adduser rkm sudo"
[23:06] <zleap> ok
[23:07] <zleap> i am not sure, you shouldn't need to reboot after adding a new user
[23:07] <zleap> i have debian here on my desktop and can't see anything in the user add too to add new users to the login box
[23:07] <zleap> user list
[23:07] <CyberManifest> where it shows: bob ALL = NOPASSWD: ALL does that section need to change to bob ALL=(ALL:ALL) ALL ?
[23:07] <CyberManifest> I've already rebooted many times since anyways
[23:08] <zleap> ok
[23:08] <zleap> not sure, can anyone else help with this ?
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[23:10] <CyberManifest> semeion: do you know how to add my own user to this list: https://imgur.com/mk56KMP ?
[23:11] <CyberManifest> wonder if the people over in #debian know :/
[23:13] <semeion> CyberManifest: user managment, you need create a new user for you using commandline or some GUI tool
[23:14] <CyberManifest> semeion: lol, sorry I guess you missed that...
[23:14] <CyberManifest> [16:04:11]<CyberManifest> zleap I have another user "rkm" in the group "sudo" and even modified sudo privliges
[23:14] <CyberManifest> [16:05:03]<CyberManifest> zleap: I followed this guide: https://www.raspberrypi.org/documentation/linux/usage/users.md
[23:14] <CyberManifest> [16:05:27]<CyberManifest> and also did: "sudo adduser rkm sudo"
[23:15] <CyberManifest> semeion: so see, I have another user with sudo privileges but they still aren't showing in that list.
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[23:30] <semeion> CyberManifest: oh, maybe that gui tool show only the active user, idk
[23:31] <waveform> after adding a user to a group, that user will need to re-login before the group becomes available to them
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[23:32] <waveform> so, if you're logged in as rkm and you've done "sudo adduser rkm sudo" you'll need to logout and login again before you'll be able to use that group privilege
[23:32] <semeion> CyberManifest: i use Arch Linux-ARM, that tool only come to me when i use polkit authentication
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[23:34] <CyberManifest> semeion: no cause it's that way even from the other user logged in
[23:35] <semeion> try ask in #raspbian
[23:36] <CyberManifest> semeion: already have
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[23:43] <CyberManifest> I've added myself to every group "pi" is in "pi adm dialout cdrom sudo audio video plugdev games users input netdev gpio i2c spi" and still am not showing in the list: https://imgur.com/mk56KMP
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