#raspberrypi IRC Log

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IRC Log for 2018-11-22

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[0:01] * iKarith (~ikarith@174.127.209.41) Quit (Quit: trying to fix audio)
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[0:54] <morfin> tommy``, did you DISPLAY=:0 feh ... ?
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[3:11] <JessicaRN> if I want to automount an nfs share that has a uid/pw, where do I place that code? fstab doesn't let you use a uid/pw (or I don't think it does)
[3:11] <JessicaRN> sutomount at boot
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[3:16] <JK-47> Either force the user on the exports file for that client host, or edit your /etc/idmapd.conf
[3:16] <JK-47> you can have different server side nfs exports file options for each client IP you have in it
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[3:18] <JessicaRN> JK-47: ty
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[3:37] <friendofafriend> fstab lets you use user/pass. "192.168.0.1:/NASShare /mnt/NAS nfs username=administrator,password=pass 0 0"
[3:38] <Kwisher> and you want that in plain text?
[3:39] <JK-47> thats an smb option not nfs.
[3:41] <friendofafriend> An SMB option?
[3:42] <clever> nfs doesnt typically use a username or password
[3:45] <friendofafriend> I take it you're experienced with NFS for netbooting?
[3:45] <clever> yeah, i used to use the nfs as the root for several of my systems
[3:47] <friendofafriend> Totally can understand why you'd not want to use passwords in booting up a system.
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[6:54] <CyberManifest> what bluetooth stack does raspbian use out of the box
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[8:26] <IamTrying> Why i can not ssh? even the SSH service was enabled? i get "Connection closed by 192.168.1.3 port 22"
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[8:27] <mlelstv> doesn't say
[8:28] <mlelstv> you may find an answer in the system logs of the machine running sshd
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[8:38] <IamTrying> https://i.imgur.com/G6WiMDN.png - mlelstv this is the log showing in rPI
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[8:41] <IamTrying> do i have to do
[8:41] <IamTrying> sudo rm /etc/ssh/ssh_host*; sudo dpkg-reconfigure openssh-server; ?
[8:41] <IamTrying> https://www.raspberrypi.org/forums/viewtopic.php?t=172911
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[8:45] <IamTrying> OK - after doing this `sudo rm /etc/ssh/ssh_host*; sudo dpkg-reconfigure openssh-server; sudo reboot;` it works
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[9:09] <mlelstv> hmm, the host keys should have existed from the previous package configuration. But reconfigure was the correct thing then.
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[9:28] <Wizard> Hi, do you know which daemon raspbian official images uses to support desktop wifi connectivity?
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[9:49] <CyberManifest> Wizard: I think it's Network Manger
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[10:20] <Wizard> CyberManifest: Well, I need to check that.
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[10:48] <bazul> hey
[10:49] <bazul> any good promotions going on in eu-raspberryland?
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[11:00] <H__> shh, way too early. wait for some more rounds of coffee with such delicate questions ;-)
[11:03] <bazul> it's 10 am!
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[12:36] <instantp10neer> Hello RP. I am looking to build an emulator box. Any recommendations for what to purchase?
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[12:39] <instantp10neer> It would appear heatsinks are recommended, as is an RTC module.
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[13:00] <malh> Does anyone here know why if I start a videostream from a thread and it runs for some time, the camera stops working?
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[13:16] <Habbie> instantp10neer, most people get by without heatsinks fine, although it may depend on how deeply you pack the pi into something else
[13:16] <Habbie> instantp10neer, as for RTC - do you need to keep accurate time, between poweroffs, while not connected to the internet?
[13:17] <bazul> i think i'm going to buy the asus tinker board
[13:17] <instantp10neer> If I am running emulators I assume it would help with game saves. Which is best? I see there are three.
[13:18] <Habbie> instantp10neer, right, would be nice for saves to have accurate timestamps
[13:19] <Habbie> three what? rtc hats?
[13:20] <instantp10neer> Yes
[13:20] <Habbie> it would be useful to link to them if you want opinions
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[13:23] <instantp10neer> I am just starting to look around. I noticed these: RasClock, DS1307, DS3231 on this page: http://www.buyapi.ca/pi-essentials/
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[13:25] <Habbie> if the specifications do not make a difference to you, perhaps consider their physical form
[13:26] <Habbie> and what else you want to plug into the pi header pins
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[13:28] <instantp10neer> I am building a RetroPie to start. I will go with the budget option.
[13:28] <Habbie> you could also start without the rtc, of course
[13:29] <Lartza> NTP should be more than enough indeedn, but requires internet connection
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[13:29] <Lartza> Start with controllers, not heatsinks and RTCs :P
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[13:32] <instantp10neer> I am looking at https://amzn.to/2DVxpZ8 (the NES case). Anyone have something cooler? Sega?
[13:34] <instantp10neer> Something with glass?
[13:35] <mlelstv> glass is retro?
[13:36] <instantp10neer> I just think it would be stylish.
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[14:23] <instantp10neer> Does the 3 B+ come in different revisions? Does element14's 3B+ have different firmware or etc.?
[14:25] <friendofafriend> No, a Pi3B+ is a Pi3B+.
[14:26] <friendofafriend> instantp10neer: You'll find lots of great info here. https://elinux.org/RPi_HardwareHistory
[14:28] <instantp10neer> Only one model listed. Someone was saying element14 uses a revision that clamps down on overclocking. Nonsense?
[14:28] <friendofafriend> Yep, silly talk.
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[14:30] <instantp10neer> TY
[14:30] <friendofafriend> Very welcome, instantp10neer.
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[14:53] <m1dnight_> Quick question: Say you have 160 raspberry pis in a cluster. How would you reinstall all of them as fast as possible?
[14:53] <friendofafriend> What kind of Raspberry Pis?
[14:53] <m1dnight_> 3
[14:53] <friendofafriend> Netbooting them. https://www.raspberrypi.org/documentation/hardware/raspberrypi/bootmodes/net_tutorial.md
[14:54] <m1dnight_> Myeah, then I'd still have to install the raspbian on all of them.
[14:54] <gordonDrogon> why reinstall might be another question...
[14:54] <m1dnight_> Maybe I can find a superdupersdcard creator
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[14:54] <m1dnight_> gordonDrogon: at this point it's okay. But some colleagues are no experts when it comes to commandline, and might fubar things.
[14:54] <friendofafriend> No, there's nothing about netbooting that makes you need Raspbian.
[14:54] <m1dnight_> I'm looking for a contingency plan :p
[14:55] <gordonDrogon> the fastest way is to use rsync if you're going down the one-sd-card at a time route, however plugging 4 sd card devices into a PC/Laptop and some clever shell scripts would be faster.
[14:56] <gordonDrogon> rsync is only going to copy ~2GB of real data, dd will copy the entire 4/8/16/etc. SD card.
[14:56] <friendofafriend> Geez, even with eight readers, you'd have to do it twenty times. :(
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[14:56] <gordonDrogon> or even 8 writers :)
[14:56] <friendofafriend> Writers**, oops. :P
[14:57] <m1dnight_> thge way I did it now was one by one in a bash script with a counter that already configured the hostname (pizilla-1, pizilla-2,..)
[14:57] <gordonDrogon> If they're all on one LAN I'd really be looking at netbooting them + root & /home via nfs.
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[14:57] <m1dnight_> (oh yeah, the cluster is named pizilla)
[14:57] <m1dnight_> I'll have a look at the netboot. Seems to be a good solution.
[14:57] <friendofafriend> Do you already have 160 SD cards?!
[14:58] <m1dnight_> yeah
[14:58] <friendofafriend> Wowzers!
[14:58] <m1dnight_> the cluster is operational. I'm just waiting until a colleague breaks it.
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[14:58] <m1dnight_> I have a picture somewhere, sec
[14:59] <gordonDrogon> even at this point, if you mount /home via nfs it might save a lot of issues.
[14:59] <gordonDrogon> assuming you haev an nfs server on the LAN though.
[15:00] <m1dnight_> https://i.imgur.com/iCwASgR.jpg
[15:00] <m1dnight_> gordonDrogon: yeah, we have a regular server as the master node which is also the gateway to ssh into the pi's
[15:00] <friendofafriend> I wouldn't even dream of anything but netboot. Wow, look at all that.
[15:01] <m1dnight_> I'll experiment with batch and see what works best.
[15:01] <m1dnight_> thanks all
[15:01] <friendofafriend> Very welcome. What are you using that for?
[15:01] <m1dnight_> Mostly research things.
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[15:02] <m1dnight_> Some people use it just for data processing (e.g., sraping hundreds of thousands of github repos), and some people like me use it to benchmark ERlang/Elixir applications
[15:02] <friendofafriend> Good thinking! I'm sure you saved a fortune on resources.
[15:03] <m1dnight_> It was quite expensive in the end, but it's more convincing in a paper to say that you scaled up your prototype to 160 nodes than it is to say you scaled up to 5.
[15:03] <m1dnight_> "my software is scalable because it runs on 4 computers" yeah no :p
[15:03] <m1dnight_> Interesting thing was, if I run erlang on 160 nodes, it completely cripples the network with heartbeats and such
[15:04] <friendofafriend> Very exciting. I hope you do a write-up about it.
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[15:06] <gordonDrogon> I used to do big clusters, but that was when a big cluster was over 200 nodes - early 90's :)
[15:06] <friendofafriend> What operating system do they run, m1dnight_?
[15:07] <m1dnight_> raspbian lite
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[15:07] <friendofafriend> 09:06 < gordonDrogon> I used to do big clusters, but that was when a big cluster was over 200 nodes - early 90's :)
[15:07] <m1dnight_> that's big :p
[15:07] <friendofafriend> Oh, gosh, sorry for that. ---^
[15:07] <gordonDrogon> ?
[15:07] <m1dnight_> 200 nodes is pretty big
[15:07] <friendofafriend> (Errant middle click.)
[15:07] <m1dnight_> That compute power is now probably the equivalent of a smartphone? :D
[15:08] <gordonDrogon> they were physically big too - you're 160 Pi's would fit on a desk... those neeed big rooms with AC, etc.
[15:08] <gordonDrogon> m1dnight_, yup!
[15:08] <friendofafriend> Oh heavens, I'm sure the power required for 200 nodes was wild.
[15:08] <gordonDrogon> https://projects.drogon.net/a-box-of-200-raspberry-pis/
[15:08] <friendofafriend> And I bet it sounded like a wind tunnel! :)
[15:09] <gordonDrogon> picture there. (not 200 Pi's, but 300 compute nodes.
[15:09] <gordonDrogon> for scale, the unit is 2m high.
[15:09] <m1dnight_> oh my. That looks super slick.
[15:09] <gordonDrogon> 90's technology.
[15:10] <friendofafriend> Like 30kW, from that picture?
[15:10] <gordonDrogon> bits of it are still 'valid' today - the network was ultra low latency for example.
[15:10] <gordonDrogon> each module is rated at 1KW.
[15:10] <gordonDrogon> so maybe just over 100kw.
[15:11] <gordonDrogon> actually probably much less. the modules had 4 boards and 4 x 1GB SCSI drives.
[15:11] <friendofafriend> Oh, each of the 28 sections is holding 4 of those modules?
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[15:13] <gordonDrogon> some are switch modules.
[15:13] <gordonDrogon> the cabling does diagonally under the floor to keep the distanec short.
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[15:14] <gordonDrogon> in that setup there are 256 compute boards (dual sparc @ 66Mhz, each with 128MB of RAM), 16 general boards and 16 hot-swap backup boards.
[15:15] <gordonDrogon> the black boxes are raid arrays- each with 20 x 4GB drives.
[15:15] <gordonDrogon> that was the fastest supercomputer in the world when it was installed.
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[15:17] <friendofafriend> Sure is an expensive way to play Doom. What was it doing?
[15:19] <gordonDrogon> it was doing "stuff".
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[15:19] <gordonDrogon> although you might want to lookup Livermore Labs and find out what they do ...
[15:20] <friendofafriend> Ahem, little "d" doom?
[15:21] <gordonDrogon> One place we sold a system to (forerunner to that) was Toyota.
[15:22] <gordonDrogon> they used it for ultra high quality (for the time) raytracing to display 3D models of their cars in many different colours and lighting conditions.
[15:22] <gordonDrogon> so they could gauge audience reaction to the colours, then when they got the right colour it would calculate the paint formulation...
[15:22] <BurtyB> well the toyota should be the forerunner heh
[15:23] <gordonDrogon> so, who cares about efficiency, aerodynamic modelling, etc. just get the colour right :)
[15:24] <friendofafriend> Were you selling units for funding, then?
[15:24] <gordonDrogon> we sold them for money.
[15:25] <gordonDrogon> anyone rich enough to buy one, bought one ... we didn't care what they used them for.
[15:27] <Kwisher> automobile mfg's have been using 3d modeling for vehicle designs since mid-90's
[15:27] <gordonDrogon> I thnk the toyota one might have been about 1990.
[15:28] <gordonDrogon> so they were ahead of the game, but computers were getting faster by the day at that point..
[15:28] <Kwisher> not sure when computer testing for aerodynamics & such became the norm
[15:31] <Kwisher> the first system i remember seeing at work for 3d CAD was a HP Unix system
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[15:41] <stiv> about the time Ford bought a super computer and all the cars started to look like half-melted ice cubes
[15:42] <stiv> 1st automotive CAD systems were things like Catia running on mainframes
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[15:46] <Khaytsus> I dunno why but I still think my favorite all time looking car is the 1977 Firebird Trans Am.
[15:46] <Khaytsus> And not even because of the silly movies, I don't even think I watched any of them
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[15:48] <stiv> a lot of nice cars came out of that era. it was a time when the car guys were winning in the Car Guys vs Beancounters War
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[15:51] <chris_99> Hey, i'm just wondering, has anyone played with atop and the pi
[15:51] <chris_99> i notice it has a column that says avgf 600MHz
[15:51] <chris_99> does that mean the cores are running at 600MHz possibly?
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[15:53] <Khaytsus> stiv: Yeah, RIGHT before they kicked cars right in the nuts.
[15:53] <Khaytsus> What, three years later every car had half the horsepower beacuse of emissions laws?
[15:55] <stiv> yes, emissions but more due to mandated fuel economy standards. reaction to arab oil embargo
[15:58] <Khaytsus> Yeah.. It just ruined the cars of the era
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[16:00] <chris_99> has anyone got any pointers on how to fiddle with the cpu frequency per chance, currently it appears fixed at 600MHz, when i check /proc too
[16:01] <chris_99> this is on alpine atm
[16:02] <ShorTie> raspi-config does that
[16:02] <chris_99> ah, i don't think ihave that, but i found arm_freq, if i set that to 1400, it would be doing the same thing as raspi-config?
[16:02] <chris_99> (3B+)
[16:03] <Khaytsus> chris_99: Maybe ask the alpine folks?
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[16:03] <Khaytsus> I mean at that point you're relying on their kernel, software, OS.
[16:04] <chris_99> i thought this was more of a pi issue, ill try that thoo
[16:04] <Khaytsus> Does it work on rapsbian?
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[16:04] <Khaytsus> If so..... not a 'pi issue'
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[16:07] <friendofafriend> You could always just pull the raspi-config script. https://github.com/RPi-Distro/raspi-config
[16:07] <chris_99> yeah i ask in alpine actually , just to check theres not a way to do this at runtime
[16:08] <ShorTie> raspi-config is just a bash program
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[16:09] <friendofafriend> Right-o. It sure does minimize the chances of forgetting something or making a typo.
[16:09] <chris_99> ah i just found cpufrequtils about that
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[16:10] <chris_99> which did seem to change it
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[16:16] <chris_99> yay! things are twice as fast
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[16:20] <friendofafriend> Hooray! Do you have a heatsink?
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[16:21] <chris_99> er no heh
[16:21] <chris_99> for reference cpufreq-set -f 1400MHz is wot i did
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[16:23] <friendofafriend> You can do a lot more with overclocking if you have one. :)
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[16:23] <chris_99> heh i don't want to risk overclocking yet, but out of interest
[16:23] <chris_99> how far can you push them
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[16:25] <friendofafriend> I see some people hitting ~1.6GHz with the Pi3B+, for what it's worth.
[16:26] <whodat> anyone here ride motorcycles?
[16:28] <whodat> (and have a pi attached to their motorcycle) .. ?
[16:29] <clever> chris_99: i think that if you leave the voltages alone, you cant damage it via overclocking alone
[16:29] <chris_99> cool
[16:29] <chris_99> unless it over heats i guess?
[16:29] <clever> and if it does become unstable, just undo the config.txt changes and reboot
[16:29] <clever> i think it has thermal shutdown, but not sure
[16:30] <chris_99> ah
[16:30] <clever> it will show a warning on the hdmi when its overheating
[16:30] <HighInBC> chris_99: it should thermally throttle itself
[16:30] <chris_99> cool
[16:32] <clever> it might also corrupt the SD card if it crashes at the wrong time
[16:32] <clever> but no real damage, just format it back to new
[16:32] <chris_99> heh
[16:32] <chris_99> mm
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[16:38] <chris_99> whodat: what's the pi for out of interest, gps/..?
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[16:49] <caoliver> At what current does the fuse open on a RasPi3B?
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[17:00] <chris_99> shiftplusone: sorry to bother you, just wondering, it looks like arm_freq. isn't defined in the config.txt created by raspbian, so i'm just thinking, does raspbian use a program that dynamically alters the CPU freq?
[17:00] <clever> chris_99: there have been some recent kernel/firmware changes, that allow it to dynamically change the freq at runtime, with the standard cpufreq utils/api
[17:01] <chris_99> ahh
[17:01] <chris_99> thanks!
[17:01] <clever> config.txt just defines the upper/lower limit for that now
[17:01] <chris_99> ahh
[17:01] <chris_99> would you be able to point me at any info re. raspbian and how the cpu freq is altered?
[17:02] <clever> dont have any docs handy right now
[17:02] <chris_99> no worries, i'll do some digging
[17:02] <chris_99> like i'm assuming there may be a daemon or something that alters it
[17:03] <clever> the linux kernel has built in goveners to change it based on cpu usage%
[17:04] <chris_99> ah, wait , so this is something that's in the very latest kernels?
[17:04] <clever> its been in linux (on x86 laptops) for ages
[17:04] <clever> the rpi "recently" gained drivers to support it
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[17:06] <chris_99> bingo, you just gave me the keyword for what it is i think
[17:07] <chris_99> this - /sys/devices/system/cpu/cpu0/cpufreq/scaling_governor
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[17:07] <chris_99> is set to ondemand in raspbian
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[17:08] <clever> ]$ cat /sys/devices/system/cpu/cpu0/cpufreq/scaling_available_governors
[17:08] <clever> performance powersave
[17:08] <clever> its set to powersave on my x86 core i7 laptop, and has 2 options
[17:09] <clever> chris_99: and if you read min freq and max freq, you can see the range it supports
[17:09] <chris_99> neat, cheers
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[17:19] <chris_99> i didn't know about that powersave thing either
[17:19] <chris_99> will have to try that on my laptop
[17:19] <chris_99> which runs out of battery far too fast
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[17:21] <clever> chris_99: some linux distros will change the govenor automatically when you unplug the power cord
[17:21] <chris_99> ah, cool, would make sense
[17:21] <clever> mine doesnt, currently
[17:22] <chris_99> what distro do you use? i use arch
[17:22] <clever> nixos
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[17:22] <chris_99> oh, not sure what that is
[17:22] <clever> basically, its what happens if functional programming nerds got ahold of gentoo :P
[17:22] <chris_99> haha interesting
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[17:22] <chris_99> i used to use gentoo
[17:22] <clever> same
[17:23] <clever> the package manager in nixos defines how to build all packages using a functional language (called nix)
[17:23] <chris_99> intriguing
[17:23] <clever> and once a given package has been compiled, it can never be modified
[17:23] <chris_99> oh fancy
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[17:24] <chris_99> is that due to using some fancy hashing + crypto?
[17:24] <clever> and there is no wild west of a mess like /usr/lib on other distros
[17:24] <clever> /usr/lib doesnt even exist!
[17:24] <chris_99> haha
[17:24] <clever> neither does /lib
[17:24] <clever> for example, chrome is over at /nix/store/l77kzr8582n4zkfwkjjh4bzyci65cc3b-chromium-70.0.3538.77/bin/chromium
[17:24] <chris_99> interesting
[17:25] <clever> and the path to every single dep its using, is at similar locations, and baked into the chrome binary
[17:25] <clever> so i can have multiple versions of the dependencies
[17:25] <clever> and chrome will only ever use a single version
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[17:25] <clever> so no random breakage when you upgrade things
[17:25] <chris_99> oooh
[17:25] <chris_99> that's cool
[17:25] <chris_99> so you could maybe even have multiple libcs should you wish
[17:26] <clever> yeah
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[17:26] <shauno> does that mean if you want to upgrade a library, you have to rebuild every binary that links to it?
[17:26] <clever> shauno: yeah
[17:26] <chris_99> ahh that's a good question heh
[17:26] <clever> but there is also a binary cache, with pre-built everything
[17:27] <clever> at one point, i even had 2 arches on the same uSD card
[17:27] <chris_99> haha
[17:27] <clever> i had a uSD card, that booted on both x86-64 (with 32gig of ram), and a rpi!
[17:27] <chris_99> wow
[17:27] <clever> it had a single rootfs
[17:27] <chris_99> that's pretty awesome
[17:27] <clever> and it had the same config
[17:27] <clever> so it looked like the same install from both machines
[17:28] <chris_99> is nixos a v. new distro? i'd not heard of it before
[17:28] <clever> its at least 10 years old, acording to the github history
[17:28] <clever> https://nixos.org/ is the site
[17:29] <chris_99> 'NixOS has atomic upgrades and rollbacks' that sounds interesting
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[17:29] <clever> yeah, because paths can never be modified, the entire OS start at a single "package", and its fairly simple to just swap that one point out
[17:30] <clever> and since its never modified, all old versions are still there, and you can just swap backwards
[17:30] <clever> thats also how i got x86 and arm to share a disk
[17:30] <clever> its just a matter of which starting point you boot into
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[17:30] <clever> and because they have different bootloaders (grub vs start.elf), thats easy
[17:31] <clever> the grub config it auto-generates also gives you a menu to choose from old versions
[17:31] <clever> so as long as the FS isnt corrupt, you can undo any change to the system, from grub
[17:33] <chris_99> so does this mean, each package has its own copy of all its dependencies right?
[17:33] <chris_99> or are they kind of hashed, and can be shared by that hash or something
[17:33] <chris_99> i mean in the path
[17:34] <chris_99> so you don't end up with duplicate copies of files
[17:34] <clever> the hash is based on the directions of how a package is built
[17:34] <clever> and if 2 packages depend on the same glibc, they can share it safely
[17:34] <chris_99> nice
[17:34] <chris_99> yeah that's what i was wondering
[17:35] <clever> those hashed build directions, also include the hash of the directions for every dep
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[17:35] <clever> so changing the directions for libc, impacts the hash of basically everyting
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[17:36] <chris_99> aha
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[17:40] <clever> chris_99: it also has a sandbox option, so if you dont claim to depend on something, you cant even see it at build time
[17:40] <clever> chris_99: and then you lack all the fun problems gentoo has had, where X only builds if Y is installed, but X doesnt depent on Y
[17:40] <clever> with the sandbox on, X will NEVER see Y, even if its installed
[17:41] <clever> and then it fails 100% of the time
[17:41] <clever> then people fix it :P
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[17:41] <Habbie> i keep wanting to try Nix
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[20:20] <yggdrasil> dddd
[20:22] <notraven> Can I run older versions of Windows in Pi1? Found an old one in the closet :)
[20:22] <Habbie> notraven, only in qemu or dosbox and it will take a week or longer just to boot
[20:23] <Khaytsus> gross
[20:23] <notraven> Anything I can do with model 1?
[20:23] <Khaytsus> Anything you'd do with any of them
[20:23] <Khaytsus> If it's an original 1, ram is pretty dang limited.. 1 b+ and it's fine for most things, except desktop use.. but I personally think desktop use of pi's is pretty silly anyway
[20:24] <Khaytsus> I've used a 1 b+ for my home automation for years.. requires zero resources so just works
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[20:26] <chris_99> isn't there a version of windows that does run on the pi iirc, like a magic arm version?
[20:27] <caoliver> Having another 1/2G to cache things isn't a bad thing though.
[20:27] <Habbie> chris_99, yes, but it doesn't have any actual windows
[20:27] <Fulgen> notraven: usb backpowering \o/
[20:27] <chris_99> it doesn't have windows! that's an outrage
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[20:27] <chris_99> it's cli only?
[20:27] <caoliver> One fellow's outrage is another blessing.
[20:27] <chris_99> hehe
[20:28] <chris_99> i don't even use windows tbh
[20:28] <caoliver> s/ther/ther's/
[20:28] <caoliver> I have to suffer Windows on occasion.
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[20:28] <caoliver> At the moment, I'm contemplating an external 5v rail to deal with a power draw issue.
[20:29] <chris_99> can't you use a 2.5A+ usb supply?
[20:30] <caoliver> I have a %A switcher feeding it, but the peripherals I need to control need more than F2 will put up with.
[20:30] <caoliver> 5A
[20:31] <notraven> Darnit, I wanted to run windows easily :(
[20:31] <caoliver> Go to a big box store and buy a cheap laptop then.
[20:31] <caoliver> Yuck!
[20:31] <Khaytsus> or put together a box from parts.. or heck, there are also used computer stories
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[20:41] <johnjay> anybody have problems with getting /dev/fb0 to work with a terminal emulator inside X?
[20:42] <johnjay> i was running elinks inside gnome-terminal on my raspi and i tried to view images with fbi or whatever and it gave an error about VT_GETSTATE wrong ioctl
[20:42] <johnjay> feh or fim work fine but those are X
[20:42] <johnjay> idk it's not that big a deal, just kind of confusing
[20:42] <johnjay> it works in an actual VT
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[20:58] <waveform> your console under X isn't a "real" tty; it's a pseudo tty (pty) which fbi won't work with
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[21:00] <waveform> I vaguely recall there's some switch to tell fbi which framebuffer to use, but I'm still not sure it'd work under X
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[21:11] <Fulgen> how should it, it isn't a framebuffer
[21:11] <Fulgen> there's usually one framebuffer object per screen
[21:14] <johnjay> yes -d
[21:14] <johnjay> i told it -d /dev/fb0 and that didn't work
[21:15] <johnjay> so the framebuffer is the entire screen?
[21:15] <johnjay> i was able to use feh instead
[21:15] <johnjay> i assume since it's in X
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[21:23] <waveform> yes, the framebuffer is the entire screen
[21:24] <waveform> (or at least a framebuffer device like /dev/fb0 will usually represent an entire screen anyway)
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[21:33] <johnjay> right
[21:33] <johnjay> so writing to it would be like, writing over my desktop icons or something
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[21:57] <waveform> indeed - assuming X doesn't immediately write over your changes
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[21:59] <johnjay> right
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[22:27] * Senicar (~Senicar@gateway/tor-sasl/senicar) Quit (Quit: Leaving)
[22:28] * mowcat (~mowcat@cpc105070-sgyl40-2-0-cust220.18-2.cable.virginm.net) Quit (Remote host closed the connection)
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[22:37] * cccyRegeaneWolfe (cccyRegean@gateway/vpn/privateinternetaccess/cccyregeanewolfe) Quit (Ping timeout: 246 seconds)
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[23:32] * indy (~indy@dsl-static-104.213-160-167.telecom.sk) Quit (Read error: Connection reset by peer)
[23:33] * TheSin (~TheSin@gateway.bluefalls.ca) Quit (Quit: Client exiting)
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