#raspberrypi IRC Log

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IRC Log for 2018-11-24

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[0:05] <dexio> EvilDMP: I havent tried that module in particular, but if if you look at the datasheet https://cdn.shopify.com/s/files/1/0174/1800/files/tps63070.pdf?4184684033596395658 it looks like it has stable output voltage. Plus they've used inductors to filtering on the board
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[0:12] <friendofafriend> Howdy tommy``! How goes things?
[0:13] <tommy``> all fine thanks!
[0:13] <friendofafriend> dexio: Nah, hostapd is in regards to the Pi acting itself as an access point.
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[1:12] <k_j> hello
[1:13] <k_j> do you know if the rpi-tv can be seen on the hadmi monitor?
[1:14] <Lartza_> Uhh?
[1:15] <friendofafriend> Are you talking about the Raspberry Pi Tuner Hat?
[1:15] <k_j> yes
[1:16] <friendofafriend> Yes, you can view TV through the Raspberry Pi TV Hat by the HDMI port.
[1:16] <Lartza_> Aww it's DVB-T2, I'm pretty sure I'm in a DVB-C apartment
[1:17] <k_j> friendofafriend, what tool is used to capture the dvb and output to hdmi?
[1:17] <friendofafriend> You can use VLC.
[1:18] <friendofafriend> VLC now supports hardware accelerated video on the Raspberry Pi. https://news.softpedia.com/news/raspberry-pi-os-raspbian-now-features-vlc-media-player-minimal-install-image-523861.shtml
[1:18] <Lartza_> Also Kodi, omxplayer
[1:18] <Lartza_> TVHeadend pipes the DVB output
[1:19] <Lartza_> from the HAT
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[1:31] <k_j> is it possible to see the tv from a pc?
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[3:13] <plus2equalsme> Curious, is the first page of https://www.raspberrypi.org/forums/viewtopic.php?f=29&t=44177 still the best way set up my 3b (not +) to use a USB hard drive as the rootfs? (I set this up a couple years ago, but I need to do a clean install and can't totally remember what I did)
[3:13] <plus2equalsme> Or was there an update in one of the later pages that I haven't found yet?
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[3:18] <mfa298> that looks long and complicated
[3:19] <Tenkawa> whats new all?
[3:19] <mfa298> for the 3B you should be able to set the otp bit to enable msd boot (needs to boot from an sd card to set that bit)
[3:19] <mfa298> then just put the raspbian image on a usb device
[3:21] <plus2equalsme> I agree about the long and complicated mfa298 I'm also sure that's NOT how I set it up before, but I can't find what I DID use before
[3:22] <plus2equalsme> I'll look further into the setting OTP stuff
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[3:27] <swift110> anybody done anything with wearables?
[3:27] <JK-47> just lights and stuff
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[3:28] <JK-47> thinking up a way to make some clothing based game items w/ nrf24l01+ transceivers. Make it a magic form of laser tag of sorts. But you have to use a wand and movements of it signal your spells.
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[3:31] <plus2equalsme> that could be interesting JK-47 I'm pretty vanilla, setting up a home webdev lab
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[3:39] <mfa298> plus2equalsme: if you had it setup to boot just from usb (with no sd card at all) then the otp bit will already be set - so just put raspbin onto the usb device in similr way to how you would an sd card and it should work
[3:41] <plus2equalsme> mfa298 the otp bit is not already set, whatever I did before, /boot had to be on the sd card, and I had to adjust the cmdline.txt file
[3:42] <plus2equalsme> (some sort of boot delay plus UUID of the harddrive)
[3:43] <plus2equalsme> I think I'm just gonna reflash the sd with the new image, then follow https://www.raspberrypi.org/documentation/hardware/raspberrypi/bootmodes/msd.md
[3:45] <mfa298> tht looks like the right sort of plce to start for the documentation.
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[3:47] <plus2equalsme> still not the same method i used before, but, it's been up for a while, so should work
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[4:34] <plus2equalsme> well, this is fun, looks like I might need to get a new cardreader
[4:35] <plus2equalsme> I have a card reader builtin to this machine, but apparently debian can't use it, and my usb cardreader is finicky
[4:36] <Khaytsus> that card reader was probably designed after your debian was last updated.
[4:36] <Khaytsus> :>
[4:37] <plus2equalsme> Khaytsus, almost all of my hardware is ancient, and I'm running testing
[4:37] <plus2equalsme> :)
[4:37] <Khaytsus> So 2.2 kernel?
[4:37] <Khaytsus> Okay I stop ;)
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[4:38] <plus2equalsme> hahahahahahaha now that this dd just finished, let me double check, but I'm something newer than that
[4:39] <plus2equalsme> 4.18, if you must know :)
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[4:42] <Khaytsus> ;)
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[5:40] <plus2equalsme> alright, looks like the pi is just about ready, time to put it back where it belongs
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[5:50] <plus2equalsme> damn, something didn't work. No idea if it's network something else because it's headless
[5:55] <friendofafriend> Nice to have a UART adapter for times like that.
[5:55] <plus2equalsme> yup, unfortunately, I don't
[6:01] <plus2equalsme> looking like it's a problem with booting to the drive without the sd card
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[6:02] <plus2equalsme> That can be fixed though
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[6:32] <plus2equalsme> Finally working, had to use the long and complicated directions (with a minor change since I'd already flashed the drive"
[6:32] <plus2equalsme> )
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[10:39] <H3RB4L15T> Hello. Someone from Germany here?
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[11:13] <newbieG> Is there anyone who used dead tablet screen as display for raspberrypi
[11:13] <newbieG> Any Idea
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[11:28] <mlelstv> mmm, dead screens
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[11:59] <H3RB4L15T> Is carddev, caldev, Mailserver easily makable with raspberry? I'm not a pro with Linux. But I want outsource my privately things from the big data companies...
[11:59] <Lartza> everything but the mailserver yes
[11:59] <Lartza> mailservers are never easy
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[12:00] <Lartza> Nextcloud will do carddav and caldav for you for instance, also files
[12:00] <Lartza> RPi can just about run it
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[12:01] <H3RB4L15T> Lartza: TY. Then I'll shouldn't try to set up a Mailserver.
[12:01] <H3RB4L15T> I'm not a Linux pro... 😁
[12:02] <Lartza> I mean it's doable, you should just get everything right DNS and software wise :P
[12:02] <Lartza> There are also some preconfigured mailserver packages available meant for VPS'es, not sure if any of those are available for RPi and they usually make the server not really usable for anything else
[12:03] <mlelstv> whatever a "mailserver" is :)
[12:03] <H3RB4L15T> Mhhh... Which OS I could run on RPI?
[12:03] <Fulgen> RISC OS
[12:03] <H3RB4L15T> That's a good question...
[12:03] <Lartza> The one you like :P
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[12:04] <mlelstv> for many people postfix+dovecot are enough mailserver.
[12:04] <mlelstv> and that's not exactly difficult to setup
[12:05] <Lartza> Eh, you should know what you are doing still
[12:05] <mlelstv> you always should know what you are doing :)
[12:05] <Lartza> It's not trivial, but it's not necessarily hard either
[12:05] <Lartza> Well yeah but mail configs is what partly determine if you go to spam with the big providers :)
[12:05] <Lartza> Volume too unfortunately, and no appeals for you...
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[12:13] <H3RB4L15T> Spam is my junkmail acc on Google...
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[12:19] <H3RB4L15T> But I understand. So will as first buy a RPI and manage nextcloud on it. TY for your advice. :)
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[12:29] <Lartza> H3RB4L15T, I mean the RPi is not the greatest platform for NC, even if it's sold for it too :P
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[12:53] <EvilDMP> Is the correct length for a HAT spacer 10mm or 11mm?
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[13:39] <onca> I plugged a tft touchscreen into the wrong pie, and now it only displays a white screen. I've only ever seen it display a white screen actually. Did I break it?
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[14:11] <friendofafriend> onca: Probably not.
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[14:17] <ShorTie> does it work if hooked up to the 'correct pi' ??
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[14:51] <onca> according to this random chart I found, the Ironwolfs are rated for 3times more workload and continuous operation, they also have vibration tolerance and a 3 year warranty
[14:53] <onca> the barracudas are not rated for continuous operation and expected to last only 2,400 hours of operation, vs 8,760 hours
[14:55] <onca> there's only 8,760 hours in 1 year.
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[15:06] <I_Died_Once> asus gamepad pairs to the pi just fine, will go through the setup in emulationstation like a champ - but no inputs work in any game at all
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[15:10] <onca> friendofafriend: sorry, I was in the wrong channel.
[15:10] <onca> but thanks for the reply.
[15:10] <I_Died_Once> derp wrong channel too
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[15:48] <chris_99> Hi, does anyone know if there's a simple way to check if a pi camera is present, maybe via /proc or something?
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[15:54] <stiv> call the initialize routine of whatever software you are using to read the camera and see if it spits up?
[15:55] <stiv> or probe /dev/something
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[15:56] <chris_99> i'll look into /dev/ i'm just calling the raspistill program via system at the mo'
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[15:59] <chris_99> ah i just found 'vcgencmd get_camera'
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[17:10] <RemedyTomm> Hi - does anyone have experience with openmax? I'm writing a video playback library based on hello_video but i'm having a problem where the video playback is too fast. Everything else works fine, it seems like the scheduler is just running too quickly. I can't work out what might affect this
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[18:25] <Tenkawa> bbl
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[18:26] <semitones> I seem to have royally messed up my network config. Is /etc/network/interfaces supposed to be empty?
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[18:26] <rk[ghost]> hello blessed channel.
[18:26] <rk[ghost]> so, i have my pi as a miniserver for silly things.
[18:27] <rk[ghost]> however, if i get a poweroutage, post the poweroutage the pi fails to be connectable
[18:27] <rk[ghost]> i have to unplug it and plug it back it (maybe twice?)
[18:27] <rk[ghost]> i have a feeling an fsck prompt or something similiar may be popping up on its first return back to power
[18:27] <rk[ghost]> any way i can auto fsck or (do w/e else necessary) so that it just comes back up so i can connect
[18:28] <rk[ghost]> it is in a different physical location than me, so i am often just left waiting to return before i can use it again
[18:28] <rk[ghost]> and in the winter poweroutages are often enough.
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[18:31] <semitones> is there a way you can look at logs to see what it is doing?
[18:31] <semitones> (i'm just a beginner too)
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[18:33] <semitones> it's weird, in ifconfig, I can see eth0
[18:33] <semitones> but if I do ifdown eth0 it says unknown interface
[18:33] <semitones> and in /etc/network/interfaces there is nothing listed, it just says use /etc/dhcpcd.conf
[18:34] <akk> semitones: On raspbian the network is usually configured via /etc/wpa_supplicant/wpa_supplicant.conf, not /etc/network/interfaces
[18:35] <semitones> even for ethernet connections?
[18:35] <semitones> thanks, if so I need to research more
[18:35] <akk> semitones: It's normal for /etc/network/interfaces to have nothing but comments. Yes, even for ethernet and even for static IP.
[18:35] <semitones> thanks
[18:36] <akk> For some reason the raspbian designers chose to do everything through wpa_supplicant even when there's no wpa involved.
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[18:38] <semitones> ok while I read into that, i discovered some fun stuff
[18:38] <semitones> dhcpcd.conf had some static IP config in it (which had been working a few months ago before I left), which I commented out
[18:39] <semitones> now when I replug the eth cord, I get the 169.254.196.75 ip address, which I remember to be bad news
[18:39] <rk[ghost]> semitones: i can poke around. what i really ought to do is next time it happens, go to the physical location and plug in a monitor..
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[18:40] <semitones> rk[ghost], you could try to replicate it with the monitor in, by unplugging the cord to simulate a power outage
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[18:44] <rk[ghost]> semitones: that may work.. indeed.. and i am currently at the physical location! but i have a few errands to do
[18:44] <rk[ghost]> thansk for the suggestions.. always helps!!
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[18:45] <semitones> glad to help a fellow person
[18:45] <semitones> :)
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[18:53] <semitones> if I do dhclient -v eth0 it gets stuck on dhcpdiscover
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[19:15] <semitones> i think i might need to somehow install tcpdump without internet?
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[19:27] <caoliver> Can any clever person explain TIA-568A vs TIA-568B? As far as I can tell, there is *no* electrical difference. All my cables are wired 568B. This seems a good way to confuse people.
[19:28] <friendofafriend> Wiring one side of a cable to TIA-568A and the other to TIA-568B is a crossover cable.
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[19:30] <caoliver> I see that, but for straight through, I see no reason why the docs say 568A is to be prefered for the ends?
[19:30] <caoliver> preferred
[19:32] * caoliver very occasionally needs a crossover.
[19:32] <BurtyB> imho keeping to the standard would cause less confusion in the future
[19:33] <caoliver> Right. Traditionally, straight were wired 568B, but the doc sez 568A is now to be preferred. That's why I think it's confusing. You don't make those sorts of changes.
[19:34] <caoliver> Maybe I have bad docs though.
[19:34] * caoliver is reading http://technology.niagarac.on.ca/courses/ctec1767/lab3/RJ45_Colours_and_Wiring_Guide.pdf
[19:35] * caoliver just wants to get the buggers right when he has to fix one.
[19:36] * caoliver needs to run. Farm market closes soon.
[19:36] <friendofafriend> There's some good discussion about it here, https://acuitysupport.zendesk.com/hc/en-us/articles/210113548-What-is-the-difference-between-T568A-T568B-
[19:37] <gordonDrogon> oh look, ethernet cable wiring. I suspect the people that came up with the weird way the wires are separates into the plugs must have been smoking something quite weird at the time.
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[19:44] <stiv> you kids and your new-fangled RJ-45 jacks. /me remembers when ethernet was a big orange cable...
[19:51] <gordonDrogon> vampire taps!
[19:52] <gordonDrogon> I think we used yellow cable though
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[19:58] <semitones> my pi is also reporting undervoltage pretty frequently
[19:59] <binaryhermit> you probably need a better power supply
[19:59] <BurtyB> awe, poor thing. Best feed it some more juice before it eats your SD card
[19:59] <semitones> I have a beefy rpi-specific power supply, and it never used to. Could the cable have gone bad?
[20:00] <semitones> or did the psu most likely go bad
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[20:12] * stiv wonders what percentage of channel traffic is about lame power supply issues?
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[20:16] <Khaytsus> stiv: Almost all "not stable" things
[20:16] <Khaytsus> stiv: And almost everyone argues with you about it.
[20:16] <Khaytsus> "but it's a 2.1 amp samesung phone charger, it works fine for my phone!"
[20:17] <stiv> capacitors do go bad. often you can inspect them for bulges or leakage
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[20:35] <gordonDrogon> stiv, too high a %.. ought to be a FAQ or something..
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[21:29] <CyberManifest> Is there a way to get the atom advanced text editor to work on a Raspberry Pi ? I keep running out of Heap even with a 16 MB mem split
[21:29] <CyberManifest> while trying to build my self
[21:30] <CyberManifest> also how is this device good for old emulation; I installed one and the game stutters; Mario Bros. 1 for NES
[21:31] <Lartza> CyberManifest, Use visual studio code? :)
[21:32] <CyberManifest> Lartza: what do you mean?
[21:33] <Lartza> CyberManifest, https://code.visualstudio.com/
[21:33] <Lartza> From https://code.headmelted.com/ for instance
[21:34] <CyberManifest> Lartza: I wish to use atom "Open Source" instead
[21:34] <Lartza> CyberManifest, VSCode is open source and better :P
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[21:35] <CyberManifest> Lartza it's bad enough Microsoft is associated with GitHub... I want no more part than that
[21:35] <Khaytsus> MS turns everything they touch to shit.
[21:35] <Lartza> Atom has always been worse for me so *shrug*
[21:35] <CyberManifest> Lartza perhaps I should just look at industry leading Swift instead
[21:35] <Khaytsus> Atom is so fucking unbearly slow I don't know how anyone can use it
[21:36] <Khaytsus> I won't use VS Code, because microsoft
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[21:36] <CyberManifest> Khaytsus: what do you prefer to use then?
[21:37] <Khaytsus> I still use Sublime, because I'm not hung up on it having to be OSS.
[21:37] <Khaytsus> And it's instant fast
[21:37] <CyberManifest> Khaytsus: atom got fast with python3 turbo boost libraries
[21:37] <Khaytsus> Iv'e tried to use Atom a few times.... oh god..............
[21:38] <Khaytsus> I tried it just a few months ago.. Still slow as hell.
[21:38] <gordonDrogon> Khaytsus, keep it family friendly please.
[21:38] <Khaytsus> Sorry, I won't mention em es again
[21:39] <Khaytsus> No child needs that in their life
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[21:40] <CyberManifest> Khaytsus: if you think atom is slow why not fork it and improve it to go faster since you're a developer anyways?
[21:40] <Khaytsus> hurrrrrrr
[21:40] <Khaytsus> Yes please. Ye Olde "if you don't like it, submit patches"
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[21:41] <Khaytsus> How old is Atom now? 3? 4? years?
[21:41] <CyberManifest> 5+
[21:41] <Khaytsus> So yeah.
[21:41] <The_Woodsman> i have some questions that are more circuitry related than raspberry pi related, but they came up via a raspberry pi project. is there a better place to ask or is here alright?
[21:41] <CyberManifest> and Sublime?
[21:42] <CyberManifest> The_Woodsman: ask and find out :)
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[21:43] <Khaytsus> What about Sublime? Its age? No idea honestly.
[21:44] <The_Woodsman> alrighty. so i have my raspberry pi hooked up to my circuit on a breadboard using jumper wires, everything works wonderfully. i'd like to scale it up now, and some of the wires will need to be a few feet long. what can i do to get some long wires hooking my pi up to my circuit, without losing tons of voltage on the way?
[21:44] <The_Woodsman> i figure i want insulated wire, but do i want a large gauge / small gauge? is there other stuff i'm not considering?
[21:44] <Khaytsus> I know it works instantly. Never crashes. Always keeps my long list of open files, saved or unsaved. I put up with Atom for like two weeks forcing myself to try it and multiple times I launched it and.........empty, no open files, none of my temporary files, etc... gone.
[21:45] <Khaytsus> The_Woodsman: heaveir the gauge the lower the sag. How much current?
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[21:45] <CyberManifest> The_Woodsman: if you use larger gauge you'll have to step up current somehow
[21:45] <The_Woodsman> Khaytsus, 3 amps
[21:46] <The_Woodsman> CyberManifest, ah, okay, that's good to know
[21:46] <The_Woodsman> it's been a while since my classes on this stuff
[21:47] <The_Woodsman> okay, so basically i need to decide - do i use a high guage and step up the current, then step down again before it reaches the circuit, OR is the distance small enough to use smaller gauge wire
[21:47] <The_Woodsman> looks like i need to find some formulas about this
[21:47] <Khaytsus> 3 amps? You'll want 24 gauge, which is pretty dang small. so I doubt you'll have much issue
[21:47] <Khaytsus> OOPS wrong column. 16 gauge
[21:47] <The_Woodsman> and if it's only like 4 to 8 feet, will i have to worry about significant voltage drop?
[21:48] <CyberManifest> The_Woodsman: just think of "Consistency" in current and think of pathways as pipes, the larger and longer the pipes the more managed the electricity has to be to "flow" steadily without spikes or drops.
[21:48] <Khaytsus> Not with decent wiring.. if you can go with 12 gauge you won't see much droop
[21:48] <The_Woodsman> Khaytsus, it sounds like you're looking at some sort of chart. could you link that or tell me what i can search so i can see it too?
[21:48] <Khaytsus> The_Woodsman: https://www.powerstream.com/Wire_Size.htm
[21:48] <The_Woodsman> CyberManifest, thanks for that analogy
[21:48] <CyberManifest> Khaytsus: ohm s?
[21:49] <Khaytsus> Look at the power transmission column
[21:49] <Khaytsus> 3-4 feet he's not going to see much resistance
[21:49] <The_Woodsman> and i assume the ohms per 1000ft scales linearly?
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[21:49] <The_Woodsman> so 100ft is 1/10th the resistance?
[21:49] <CyberManifest> thinkness of wire can add to ohms just by material
[21:49] <The_Woodsman> right
[21:49] <Khaytsus> 3 amps over 3-4 feet, 12 guage is going to be just fine
[21:50] <Khaytsus> ANywho, I gotta get some stuff done
[21:50] <The_Woodsman> thanks a bunch for your answers
[21:50] <The_Woodsman> much appreciated
[21:50] <The_Woodsman> i think i can work off of this
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[21:52] <CyberManifest> The_Woodsman: current flows the path of least resistance so under powered is safer for your board to prevent feedback, think waves crashing and going back to source due to easier path, but low power is also harder to keep steady to supply your target
[21:52] <CyberManifest> trick is to find balance or cause balance
[21:53] <The_Woodsman> it's funny how far the water analogy carries you in circuitry
[21:53] <CyberManifest> so steady the balance between the pipe lengths
[21:53] <The_Woodsman> right
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[22:06] <gordonDrogon> The_Woodsman, is your circuit anything more than LEDs and buttons?
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[22:09] <The_Woodsman> gordonDrogon, there's one little level converter chip in there
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[22:10] <gordonDrogon> so, basically, nothing wibbling up & down at high speed?
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[22:10] <The_Woodsman> that's correct
[22:10] <gordonDrogon> ok. well, a meter or so - just use ordinary hookup wire. whatever you have.
[22:11] <The_Woodsman> okay that's great to know. at first i started out by just unspooling an ethernet cord but i wasn't sure that was the best idea
[22:11] <The_Woodsman> is that sufficient or was my intuition right that it's a little too puny
[22:12] <gordonDrogon> ethernet cabling is fine.
[22:12] <The_Woodsman> oh cool, thanks a bunch
[22:13] <gordonDrogon> especially if you can use <=8 wires - then it's ready bundled.
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[23:10] <wonderer> anyone got advise on my forums releating to brexit https://www.brexitforums.info/forums/index.php
[23:12] <Cthulhux> finally a phpbb again
[23:12] <Cthulhux> i was worried everyone would stick to shitty discourse by 2018
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[23:28] <CyberManifest> My Raspberry Pi: https://imgur.com/3yJYFyX https://imgur.com/oZhr8OS https://imgur.com/RkTbkth
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[23:34] <semitones> I reinstalled raspbian, and dhcp is still not working on my pi. I'm wondering if it's the router, or the pi itself that is at fault
[23:34] <semitones> and by not working, i mean that dhcpdiscover never gets a response, and eth0 gets a self assigned 169.xxx.xxx.xxx ip address
[23:35] <Lartza> semitones, Did you mess your network config somehow?
[23:38] <EvilDMP> What is the difference between the memory in an SD card and in a USB Flash drive? Is it the same basic stuff? And is there any advantage in using a USB Flash drive over an SD card of the same capacity in a USB adaptor?
[23:40] <HighInBC> EvilDMP: flash drives tend to be faster
[23:42] <semitones> Lartza, you mean in the router? I don't think so
[23:42] <Lartza> No in the rpi
[23:42] <CyberManifest> semitones: are you using Raspbian Lite?
[23:42] <semitones> yes
[23:43] <semitones> plugging in the ethernet cable should automatically get an IP address from dhcp, right?
[23:43] <Lartza> Uhh possibly, rpi does have dhcpcd by default
[23:44] <Lartza> Safest is to have it plugged in and then boot but
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[23:48] <CyberManifest> semitones: https://www.raspberrypi.org/forums/viewtopic.php?f=66&t=133691&start=100#p1257094
[23:49] <CyberManifest> semitones: that's how I fixed mine
[23:49] <Lartza> networkmanager shouldn't be running unless you made it
[23:49] <CyberManifest> semitones: basically it can't run two instances of dhcp at the same time
[23:50] <CyberManifest> semitones: note I didn't do the removal I did the comment after
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[23:51] <CyberManifest> semitones: search the phrase: " I mostly cover GUI related things in the original thread instead of hardware."
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[23:51] <semitones> i'm checking it out, thanks. I'm pretty sure when it was new, it just connected to ethernet no problem though
[23:52] <Lartza> CyberManifest, Removal?
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[23:53] <Lartza> semitones, If you just installed raspbian, you should not have networkmanager
[23:53] <semitones> i don't have network manager, never had
[23:54] <Lartza> That's what the whole post is about, disabling dhcpcd when one tries to use networkmanager and they conflic
[23:54] <Lartza> *conflict
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[23:54] <Lartza> Which does indeed fix that scenario
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[23:54] <semitones> Yeah. i don't know how to troubleshoot this
[23:55] <Lartza> Did you modify anything in the system?
[23:55] <semitones> fresh install
[23:55] <semitones> i suspect a hardware issue
[23:55] <Lartza> I mean you can check if another network service is running with systemctl list-units | grep running but there shouldn't be
[23:56] <Lartza> The interface shows up in ip addr though if you can see the fallback IP so
[23:56] <CyberManifest> semitones: yeah I didn't do the sudo systemctl disable dhcpcd ... I mean I had on another install and it worked but I preferred the authors method mentioned in the comment after
[23:57] <Lartza> CyberManifest, Then the second command just gets negated the next boot though
[23:57] <Lartza> Not sure also why it isn't systemctl stop dhcpcd
[23:57] <CyberManifest> yeah I didn't do that either
[23:57] <CyberManifest> I used the OTHER method
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[23:58] <CyberManifest> Lartza: because it's a deamon not a systmctl
[23:58] <Lartza> CyberManifest, systemctl units are daemons
[23:58] <CyberManifest> I think it's personalized for the pi
[23:58] <Lartza> No
[23:59] <CyberManifest> Lartza: I know but it's a different one
[23:59] <Lartza> Not really
[23:59] <CyberManifest> Lartza: suit yourself, mine is working
[23:59] <CyberManifest> and that method did in fact work
[23:59] <Lartza> systemd bridges to /etc/init.d if it doesn't have a unit
[23:59] <CyberManifest> whatever, I'm not going to argue semantics with you.

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