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IRC Log for 2018-11-25

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[0:00] <CyberManifest> I know I used the post and things work
[0:00] <Lartza> I mean yeah, but if you want to use networkmanager you might just as well disable dhcpcd
[0:00] <CyberManifest> no cause I like using it in VT and without GUI
[0:00] <CyberManifest> when X doesn't load
[0:00] <Lartza> What does that have to do with dhcpcd?
[0:01] <CyberManifest> dhcpcd gets loaded on boot and is needed for network at terminal or in GUI, if you disable it then you can't use it
[0:01] <Lartza> Not if you are using networkmanager...
[0:01] <CyberManifest> the problem is two occurances of DHCP conflict with one another
[0:01] <Lartza> Then disable networkmanager
[0:01] <CyberManifest> networkmanager uses DHCP
[0:01] <Lartza> Yes?
[0:01] <Lartza> You pick one
[0:01] <Lartza> disable the other
[0:02] <CyberManifest> it's not an either or
[0:02] <CyberManifest> they're the same thing
[0:02] <CyberManifest> BOTH USE DHCP
[0:02] <CyberManifest> just one instance vs two
[0:02] <Lartza> Of course it's either or
[0:02] <Lartza> Both are dhcp clients, they conflict
[0:02] <Lartza> Use one
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[0:03] <CyberManifest> some people would argue with a post
[0:03] <CyberManifest> literally
[0:03] <Lartza> I mean nm is a bit more than just a dhcp client but still
[0:03] <Lartza> ?
[0:04] <Lartza> semitones, What happens if you stop dhcpcd and run it manually against the interface?
[0:04] <Lartza> systemctl stop dhcpcd && dhcpcd <interface>
[0:05] <semitones> let me see...
[0:05] <CyberManifest> by the way Network Manger comes enabled with XFCE by default so it conflicts with Raspbian's already running (Non Network Mananger) instance of DHCP
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[0:06] <Lartza> CyberManifest, I think it's just Debian being Debian and enabling daemons on install but technically correct yes
[0:06] <Lartza> Then you can just systemctl disable dhcpcd && reboot
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[0:09] <CyberManifest> semitones: anyways, I hope I helped with that link... otherwise you can use raspi-config, in a terminal and go to the network section and have your luck there
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[0:12] <semitones> Lartza, now it just has the loopback interface
[0:13] <semitones> i mean
[0:13] <semitones> local 127.0.0.1
[0:14] <Lartza> Just to check, this is a stretch install right? From a new image?
[0:14] <semitones> yes
[0:14] <Lartza> Did dhcpcd throw any errors manually or as daemon? You can check it's errors _maybe_ with systemctl status dhcpcd or dhcpcd@interface
[0:15] <Lartza> And I guess the interface still shows under ip link just, unconnected?
[0:15] <semitones> the only thing that ifconfig shows is the lo interface.
[0:15] <semitones> let me check if i can find logs...
[0:16] <Lartza> ifconfig is deprecated by ip, "ip addr" and "ip link" are two useful commands
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[0:16] <semitones> i'll try ip link then. the systemctl status didn't show anything useful
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[0:17] <semitones> ip link shows all three interfaces. thanks for telling me ifconfig is deprecated
[0:17] <Lartza> There's actually bunch that are :P Here's a list https://dougvitale.wordpress.com/2011/12/21/deprecated-linux-networking-commands-and-their-replacements/
[0:17] <semitones> thanks
[0:17] <Lartza> I think they are removed in Debian 10, might be wrong
[0:18] <semitones> should I try turning dhcpcd back on, and seeing what happens?
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[0:25] <Lartza> semitones, That shouldn't break anything at least :P kill dhcpcd if the daemon fails to start
[0:25] <semitones> well i don't think it's doing anything
[0:25] <Lartza> I'm juggling multiple chats and googling so I didn't really see how to debug dhcpcd better yet
[0:26] <semitones> no worries, i appreciate the help. I didn't see any difference in ip link after re enabling it and starting it, but ifconfig shows eth0 and wlan0 have returned, although aren't working
[0:27] <Lartza> "ip addr" shows addresses
[0:27] <Lartza> Can you try editing /etc/dhcpcd.conf, change the line that says "duid" to "clientuid" and systemctl restart dhcpcd
[0:30] <semitones> sure i'll try. I also just tried putting wifi information into raspi-config, so it is rebooting from that
[0:30] <semitones> that didn't seem to connect to wifi, so i'm trying dhcpcd.conf
[0:31] <semitones> Lartza, it is already set to "clientid" duid is commented out
[0:32] <Lartza> Try swapping them the other way around then?
[0:33] <Lartza> Has network ever worked on this pi?
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[0:34] <semitones> Lartza, yes, it worked for a long time. I left it running in sept, as a vpn server
[0:35] <Lartza> So less likely to be a hardware issue
[0:35] <semitones> when I got back, it wasn't working. Neither is the other pi. My brother said that there had been router trouble, with the router's button red, and no devices connecting. So he removed all the ethernet connections (light turned green) and then added the eth connections back one by one, suspecting a rogue device.
[0:35] <semitones> Ever since then I haven't been able to connect both of these pis
[0:36] <Lartza> Are lights green on both end now?
[0:36] <Lartza> I was thinking if we manually assign an address by stopping dhcpd and then running "ip address flush dev <interface> && ip address add <address>/<prefix_len> broadcast + dev <interface>"
[0:37] <semitones> lights on the eth ports are green rarely the yellow one flashes. The router lights are chill
[0:37] <semitones> i think I might just give up for now
[0:37] <semitones> thanks for your help
[0:37] <Lartza> and I think "ip route add PREFIX via <address> dev <interface>"
[0:37] <Lartza> It's really bizarre
[0:37] <Lartza> With such symptoms it could honestly be the router too
[0:38] <Lartza> The whole lights red thing
[0:38] <Lartza> Router reboot and possibly even a factory reset shouldn't hurt
[0:38] <semitones> good idea. Thanks, that is a solid thing to try.
[0:38] <semitones> Your help has been amazing
[0:38] <Lartza> Happy to help, too bad we couldn't figure it out
[0:39] <semitones> that's alright, i will try again sometime :)
[0:39] <semitones> and try the router thing
[0:39] <semitones> take care
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[0:47] <CyberManifest> the cheese app isn't detecting my camera but raspistill does, how can I remedy this?
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[0:59] <Lartza> CyberManifest, modprobe bcm2835-v4l2
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[1:16] <ksinkar> Can I connnect to the raspberrypi from my workstation for the first time without a keyboard, mouse or monitor?
[1:16] <ksinkar> I know the IP of my raspberrypi which is connected to my network.
[1:17] <Lartza> ksinkar, The ssh server is not enabled by default, create a file called ssh on the boot partition (the fat32 one you can read even on Windows)
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[1:27] <Aph3x-WL> i want to make a portable movie streaming box with an rpi, setting it up as an access point so phones/tablets/etc can connect and watch videos on the go. i already have the access point part done but i'm having issues finding software for it that can stream without a third party device running something like plex. does anyone know of something that could help with this?
[1:28] <ksinkar> Lartza: thanks
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[1:48] <CyberManifest> the cheese app isn't detecting my camera but raspistill does, how can I remedy this?
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[1:52] <Lartza> [01:59:16] <Lartza> CyberManifest, modprobe bcm2835-v4l2
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[2:49] <ghostboarder> guys, has anyone successfully set up ejabberd on a pi?
[2:50] <sir_galahad_ad> ejabberd?
[2:50] <ghostboarder> jabber xmpp server
[2:51] <sir_galahad_ad> oh that the streaming xml thing?
[2:51] <ghostboarder> no, for secure messaging with chat clients
[2:53] <sir_galahad_ad> yeah same thing.
[2:53] <ghostboarder> ok?
[2:56] <sir_galahad_ad> i can't say i've used those libraries on an rpi i did a couple years ago on a normal centos box
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[3:04] <ghostboarder> intresting
[3:04] <ghostboarder> hmm, how do i install all the "recommended packages" for a module at once?
[3:04] <ghostboarder> in apt
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[3:12] <CyberManifest> Google 'apt install all recommended packages ' as: https://www.google.com/search?q=apt+install+all+recommended+packages+
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[3:15] <CyberManifest> ghostboarder: https://askubuntu.com/questions/18545/installing-suggested-recommended-packages?rq=1 same should apply
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[4:27] <Smithe> Hi, when I try to compile openldap with openssl instead of gnutls it exit and give that backtrace: https://pastebin.com/raw/48ZfMj0Y
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[4:57] <newbieG> Any have penta is703c touch screen semantics?
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[5:55] <DanielTheFox> hmm
[5:55] <DanielTheFox> lots of people who already have a Raspberry Pi O.o
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[5:55] <DanielTheFox> I just got mine yesterday
[5:59] <OO-Dragon> DanielTheFox: Grats on your first pi!
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[5:59] <DanielTheFox> I'm a spoiled boy already
[5:59] <DanielTheFox> got the Model 3 B+
[6:00] <DanielTheFox> and I'm booting from USB, my microSD cards betrayed me on the last moment
[6:00] <OO-Dragon> That was my first, in June of this year. Got a SenseHAT to go with it. Very nice combo
[6:00] <rdg> anyone ever have issue with webiopi crashing as soon as you hit it
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[6:01] <DanielTheFox> I'm not using the GUI, I went straight to the bare command line
[6:01] <DanielTheFox> the tty terminals
[6:01] <DanielTheFox> just like I'm used in Debian
[6:01] <DanielTheFox> and, actually, this is so much like x86 Debian
[6:02] <DanielTheFox> (yeah, I've got no x64 CPU, all my computers are old, this is my first computer that is not 10 years old)
[6:03] <OO-Dragon> DanielTheFox: Nice. It will be snappy fast from the CLI :)
[6:03] <DanielTheFox> it is
[6:03] <DanielTheFox> I aggressively underclocked it
[6:03] <DanielTheFox> since I want to use it for energy-off situations
[6:04] <DanielTheFox> such as a cellphone-sized tabled (I've got a case and a TFT SPI screen, wanna see it? http://www.danielthefox.com/mp4/rpi.mp4 )
[6:04] <OO-Dragon> They work fairly well off USB battery banks and solar panels :)
[6:04] <DanielTheFox> I still need to buy the power ban--
[6:04] <DanielTheFox> yes, those USB battery banks
[6:06] <DanielTheFox> I tested power consumption through a very stupid test
[6:07] <OO-Dragon> I have been looking for ways to get the Pi self sustaining for power, so I can put some sensor stations around the forest. I think I might be able to by using solar panels and these Goal Zero battery stations that can hook up to said solar. So long as they get some decent sun every few days
[6:07] <DanielTheFox> powering the system from computer USB port (often capped to 500 mAh)
[6:07] <DanielTheFox> and it worked
[6:07] <DanielTheFox> the red PWR LED of course went off
[6:07] <DanielTheFox> due to voltage probably going drunk
[6:08] <DanielTheFox> but the LCD (directly powered from the GPIO power pin) didn't even dim off
[6:08] <DanielTheFox> so I guess there was a voltage drop, but not that dramati
[6:08] <DanielTheFox> c
[6:08] <OO-Dragon> sweet
[6:08] <OO-Dragon> so you got plans for that Pi? new main computer?
[6:09] <DanielTheFox> new main cellphone
[6:09] <DanielTheFox> mine died about a month ago or more
[6:09] <DanielTheFox> and I lack money to buy a fancy new phone
[6:09] <DanielTheFox> underage sucks
[6:09] <DanielTheFox> so I went to check about RPi and portable screens
[6:09] <DanielTheFox> did a whole week of research
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[6:10] <DanielTheFox> found cheapest price (these local sellers are, IMHO, thieves, they overcharge the RPis, especially the cheaper ones)
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[6:10] <DanielTheFox> like
[6:11] <DanielTheFox> more often you find them at about 1100 MXN, or a little bit under 55 USD for the RPi 3 B (not plus)
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[6:11] <DanielTheFox> the RPi Zero W is about 700 MXN (~35 USD)
[6:11] <DanielTheFox> when it should be under 1/3 of that
[6:11] <CoJaBo_> I got mine for $10
[6:12] <DanielTheFox> our mileage and location may vary
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[6:13] <DanielTheFox> so well, I got this one at a less unfair price (900 MXN, ~45 USD)
[6:14] <DanielTheFox> plus, their 2.5A PSU
[6:14] <DanielTheFox> then I got some plain old-school alluminum heatsinks
[6:14] <DanielTheFox> not the fancy black ones
[6:15] <DanielTheFox> then this case and the screen
[6:15] <DanielTheFox> I don't remember details
[6:15] <DanielTheFox> but it was everything for 1600 MXN
[6:15] <DanielTheFox> I don't get the USB power bank tho
[6:15] <DanielTheFox> not yet
[6:16] <OO-Dragon> the RP does lower the cost of getting a computer, that's for sure.
[6:16] <DanielTheFox> yes
[6:16] <DanielTheFox> the power bank will be under 400 MXN, that's for sure
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[6:17] <DanielTheFox> nobody sells brand new computers for 2000 MXN (100 USD), cheapest (Acer and Dell) laptops are around 3000 MXN, and they're actually old models the shops want to get rid of at any cost
[6:18] <DanielTheFox> so, well
[6:19] <DanielTheFox> I want to use this as a micro laptop
[6:19] <DanielTheFox> since it has no built-in screen, I'll use a tiny Acer USB keyboard
[6:19] <DanielTheFox> laptop-like keyboard
[6:19] <DanielTheFox> *built-in keyboard
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[6:19] <DanielTheFox> later on, I may happen to find a smaller or better leopard
[6:20] <DanielTheFox> this one is destroying my left pinky finger
[6:20] <DanielTheFox> due to lack of usage
[6:20] <DanielTheFox> I must keep it away from the keys, and that is causing pain
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[7:06] <rdg> what's the smallest (disk space wise) to way to get a browser going on a pi? I'm using the standard touchscreen and want to just have X launch into a browser at a default URL in full screen mode
[7:06] <DanielTheFox> define standard
[7:07] <rdg> i feel like it's the one the pi makers recommend
[7:07] <rdg> one sec i can pull the part number
[7:07] <DanielTheFox> whatever
[7:07] <DanielTheFox> I think you can still survive with 4 GB
[7:07] <DanielTheFox> but it'll be limited by what it comes with
[7:08] <DanielTheFox> so you'd better try with at least 8 GB
[7:08] <rdg> only need a browser
[7:08] <DanielTheFox> hmm
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[7:08] <DanielTheFox> if you download Raspbian, the one that does not say "with recommended software"
[7:08] <rdg> that's still more than 4GB
[7:08] <DanielTheFox> you can use a 4 GB card
[7:08] <rdg> i'll play with what I can
[7:09] <DanielTheFox> don't use the "lite" one
[7:09] <DanielTheFox> the one that does not say "with recommended software" still comes with Chromium browser
[7:09] <DanielTheFox> which is fairly fast and lightweight compared to other browsers such as the fox in fire
[7:10] <DanielTheFox> (on fire?)
[7:10] <DanielTheFox> whatever
[7:10] <DanielTheFox> 4 GB is the bare minimum
[7:11] <DanielTheFox> and that's the size I'd recommend for Debian too
[7:11] <DanielTheFox> rdg: still there?
[7:12] <rdg> ya
[7:12] <rdg> i'm gonna try either lxde or flux
[7:13] <DanielTheFox> hmm, what do you want to do with "just browser"?
[7:13] <DanielTheFox> a computer for the kids?
[7:13] <rdg> no it's going to be a sort of control panel
[7:13] <DanielTheFox> oh, that's cool
[7:13] <rdg> it'll just display a static webpage with a handful of buttons on it
[7:13] <rdg> and then some items attached to the GPIO
[7:13] <DanielTheFox> hehe, I guess
[7:14] <rdg> so need the minimal point and touch UI since a keyboard isn't an option
[7:14] <DanielTheFox> ok
[7:14] <DanielTheFox> 4 GB is the bare minimum
[7:16] <DanielTheFox> hmm
[7:16] <DanielTheFox> I'm gonna walk with my RPi
[7:16] <DanielTheFox> this arrangment is so nice
[7:17] <DanielTheFox> so far, the only time I used a computer so much was when my parents gave me that netbook when I was 10 years old
[7:17] <DanielTheFox> that was mode than 7 years ago, the netbook is still there
[7:17] <DanielTheFox> except, however, I bought the RPi
[7:17] <DanielTheFox> gtg
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[7:26] <rdg> man. i haven't even seen a 486 in over a decade
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[8:27] <xacktm> my parents have one in their shed, they're gonna scrap it for parts :'(
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[8:29] <rdg> what are people doing with them these days?
[8:29] <rdg> those that are using them
[8:30] <rdg> i bet there's still more than a few out there running elevator or HVAC control systems
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[8:38] <BenderRodriguez> when will raspberry pi 4 come out?
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[8:40] <rdg> maybe 2019
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[8:47] <BenderRodriguez> rdg: any info on what the specs might be?
[8:50] <rdg> honestly i'm just basing that on the fact that 2018 is pretty much over and the 3 came out in 2016
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[9:11] <CyberManifest> I'm trying to use this: https://github.com/novaspirit/rpi_zram to enable zram on my pi, but /sbin is not in my path, the script get's loaded with /etc/rc.local so will setting the path in my .zshrc even work ?
[9:17] <Smithe> Hi, when I try to compile openldap with openssl instead of gnutls it exit and give that backtrace: https://pastebin.com/raw/48ZfMj0Y
[9:20] <mlelstv> your compiler is too smart for this world
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[10:24] <SkyWay> has anyone setup email on raspberry pi?
[10:24] <SkyWay> email server i mean
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[10:37] <gordonDrogon> SkyWay, it's just a Linux system - so no difference from email on other linux servers, really.
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[10:37] <SkyWay> yeah, but since is an arm based device, mail-in-a-box doesn't work
[10:38] <SkyWay> maybe there are other simple solutions that i don't know of
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[10:38] <gordonDrogon> go back to basics... e.g. exim + dovecot.
[10:39] <gordonDrogon> I run sendmail + dovecot on my linux systems.
[10:39] <SkyWay> those stuff seems painfully hard to config..
[10:39] <SkyWay> i run commands without completely knowing what they do :)
[10:40] <SkyWay> mail-in-a-box was perfect.. but...
[10:40] <BurtyB> that's probably not a good idea with mail
[10:40] <SkyWay> BurtyB, just for fun
[10:40] <SkyWay> maybe after i see it works, i'll dig in further
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[10:48] <gordonDrogon> the reality is that these days, running your own email server is hard fo many reasons - mostly what the big email people call "reputation".
[10:49] <gordonDrogon> trying to send email to e.g. hotmail, outlook, etc. addresses will mostly fail from a little home-based email server because most email systems regard email coming from home connections as highly suspect and almost certianly spam.
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[10:54] <SkyWay> i already have a webdomain with email set up, but i'm trying (if i can) to host my own
[10:54] <SkyWay> it's not that i need "reputation", it's more a thing like .. "i can do it?"
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[10:55] <gordonDrogon> the issue is still hosting behind a domestic internet connection - all those IP addresses are known to the big-guys and are teated with high levels of suspect.
[10:55] <gordonDrogon> and I say that as someone who runs hosted email systems and have done this commercially in the past for 1000's of email customers...
[10:56] <gordonDrogon> and my ISP company was just a drop in the ocean and it was often a challenge to get email through.
[10:57] <SkyWay> as i said, i'll leave that to later.. for thought. at the moment i'm just trying ..
[10:57] <gordonDrogon> it's great to run a little private server though.
[10:57] <SkyWay> i see your point, but i'm determined :)
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[10:58] <gordonDrogon> configuring isn't that hard - there are plenty of tutorials, etc. online for exim (or postfix) and dovecot. all the Debian stuff more or less just works.
[10:59] <SkyWay> i'll make a new sd-card for my raspberry so that i don't mess up my existing install .. and try to do it ...
[11:00] <gordonDrogon> I think debian favours exim these days. Dovecot is probably the best for imap and pop though. I've used dovecot for quite some time now.
[11:00] <gordonDrogon> I use sendmail - mostly because I've used it for a very long time, so know it well enough.
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[15:31] <NGC3982> hi, im on raspbian and i cannot find or start crontab, even shen gnome-schedule is installed
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[15:32] <NGC3982> when*
[15:33] <NGC3982> oh, i didnt even have the cron package
[15:33] <NGC3982> lol
[15:37] <gordonDrogon> systemd to the rescue ...
[15:37] <DanielTheFox> :D
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[16:25] <Cthulhux> ha
[16:25] <Cthulhux> sadist.
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[16:31] <Lartza> Systemd timers are great
[16:31] <Lartza> You can manage them individually and see when they have ran and are due to run
[16:32] <Cthulhux> you mean, like at(1), but with a shitload of dependencies?
[16:33] <Lartza> I mean it's not just a cron service so of course it has dependencies
[16:34] <Lartza> It's also a great init, a solid network and boot manager...
[16:34] <Lartza> Wether it has to be the last two is up to debate, I don't care personally
[16:34] <Cthulhux> and it is badly maintained, so you'll have a huge security risk running as PID 1 :p
[16:35] <Lartza> Badly maintained?
[16:35] <Lartza> Don't see that many CVE codes for it
[16:35] <Cthulhux> security problems are either marked as WONTFIX or closed for public discussion
[16:35] <Lartza> But maybe I'm not looking right
[16:36] <Lartza> I'm only aware of one such instance, and why not if they've set their mind?
[16:36] <Cthulhux> because most people prefer a secure and stable OS.
[16:36] <Lartza> That's not as common, your description makes nginx fit a badly maintained bill
[16:36] <Cthulhux> if systemd was modular, it would be fine for me, but it even isn't - many things heavily rely on too many systemd modules today
[16:36] <Cthulhux> i find it sad that the raspberry team has decided to make debian "the" pi OS
[16:37] <Cthulhux> good that there are alternatives
[16:37] <Cthulhux> *sigh*
[16:37] <Lartza> Most of the alternatives use systemd too though?
[16:37] <Cthulhux> no, they don't :-)
[16:37] <Cthulhux> 9pi doesnt, freebsd doesnt, netbsd doesnt, risc os doesnt...
[16:38] <Cthulhux> only some of the linuces - and i couldn't care less.
[16:38] <Cthulhux> :)
[16:38] <Lartza> bsd isn't linux and at least one of them isn't at all suitable for the rpi
[16:38] <Lartza> Plan 9 and RISC? really?
[16:38] <Cthulhux> "bsd isn't linux" is exactly why i have bsd servers.
[16:38] <Lartza> lol
[16:38] <Cthulhux> :)
[16:39] <Cthulhux> i agree that risc os is... weird
[16:39] <Cthulhux> plan 9 is awesome for *some* of the pi's potential purposes though.
[16:39] <Lartza> Right, openbsd is the one that would be a no-no
[16:40] <Cthulhux> afaik there is no openbsd on the pi yet?
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[16:40] <Lartza> Debian is really the most logical choice
[16:40] <Lartza> Probably no for obvious reasons
[16:40] <Cthulhux> debian was the most logical choice before they introduced a monolithic security problem for "init"
[16:41] <Lartza> init sucks, upstart sucks, openrc sucks
[16:41] <Cthulhux> is there a project to port raspbian to devuan yet?
[16:41] <Lartza> Alternatives?
[16:41] <Cthulhux> hm, i like runit
[16:41] <Lartza> runit I've heard is alright, openrc might get there one day
[16:41] <Cthulhux> openrc is quite ok, but it could be faster.
[16:41] <Cthulhux> parallel booting is experimental.
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[16:42] <Lartza> But really, Devuan doesn't have the kind of community and teams behind as Debian
[16:42] <Lartza> The logical choice is one of the big distros, and most of them use systemd
[16:42] <Lartza> And something like Gentoo wouldn't make sense
[16:42] <Cthulhux> windows has a larger community, so that's probably not a valid point re:usability
[16:42] <Cthulhux> ;-)
[16:42] <Lartza> And you know, some people like me actually love systemd :)
[16:42] <Lartza> Windows doesn't unfortunately support arm and is fairly closed
[16:43] <Lartza> Good suggestion though!
[16:43] <Lartza> At least we have windows 10 iot
[16:43] <Cthulhux> windows 10 exists for ARM.
[16:43] <Cthulhux> without a reasonable UI, that is.
[16:43] <Lartza> Do you mean the iot version? I'm pretty sure there is an actual version too but it's for oem partners etc
[16:44] <Cthulhux> ah, there seems to be a version that has support for "apps"
[16:45] <Cthulhux> https://docs.microsoft.com/en-us/windows/arm/
[16:45] * Cthulhux discourages "apps".
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[16:45] <Lartza> Ha, found something we can agree on if that includes appimage and snap for you ;P
[16:46] <Cthulhux> :D snap and flatpak, the linux equivalent of .exe files
[16:46] <Lartza> Oh yeah flatpak too
[16:46] <Cthulhux> "hurr durr windoooze sux. *double-clicks on setup.exe shit*"
[16:46] <Lartza> I mean they have their advantages
[16:46] <Lartza> Because people insist on using ancient OSes or devs insist on using ancient libraries :P
[16:47] <Cthulhux> well, there's always static linking.
[16:47] <Cthulhux> which is what i do.
[16:47] <Lartza> That's basically what flatpak is?
[16:47] <Lartza> Also, for some reason we need at least three different things to achieve the samy thing..
[16:47] <Lartza> If you chroot a statically linked program you basically get what snap or appimage do
[16:48] <Lartza> I mean in a super simplified sense
[16:48] <Cthulhux> the "advantages" of linux are irrelevant today, as linux users use wannabe-windows or wannabe-macos desktops with wannabe-windows installers and wannabe-windows inits :p
[16:48] <Cthulhux> "linux", the apache word for "i cant windows"
[16:48] <Cthulhux> ha.
[16:48] <Lartza> That's your opinion
[16:49] <Cthulhux> i have a rational approach to computing, i guess.
[16:49] <Lartza> I mean I personally am a wannabe-linux because I use Win10 but
[16:49] <Lartza> That's due to the unfortunate state of the gaming industry
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[16:50] <Lartza> And I guess my will to stay in the games I am now :P
[16:50] <Cthulhux> hey, there's wine on linux! so linux users can say "nobody needs winblows lolroflmao" while happily using software written for a better OS
[16:50] <Cthulhux> ;-)
[16:51] <Lartza> lol
[16:51] <Cthulhux> even if you want unix, you'll want solaris or bsd. there is no reason to prefer the imitation
[16:51] <Cthulhux> ymmv
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[16:52] <akk> Wine's pretty limited.
[16:52] <Lartza> nah I want Linux, but am settled with Win10
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[16:52] <Lartza> akk, Also the drivers suck apart from amdgpu slowly
[16:53] <Lartza> And Wine gets better every day
[16:53] <Lartza> I've never had luck with native games so that's kind of the nail in the coffin for me
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[16:58] <Cthulhux> i have a gentoo laptop as my only linux right now
[16:58] <Cthulhux> because the ath10k driver hasnt been ported to bsd/solaris yet
[16:58] <Cthulhux> once it is, i'm out
[16:58] <Cthulhux> :D
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[18:12] <DanielTheFox> [11:06:56] <Cthulhux> [09:48:16] the "advantages" of linux are irrelevant today, as linux users use wannabe-windows or wannabe-macos desktops with wannabe-windows installers and wannabe-windows inits :p
[18:13] <DanielTheFox> haha, I don't use desktop environments that much
[18:13] <DanielTheFox> unless really necessary
[18:13] <DanielTheFox> like, I prefer the Linux VTs
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[18:13] <Cthulhux> VTs are one of the things that went wrong in the past three decades
[18:14] <Cthulhux> in the mid-80s, graphical terminals were a thing
[18:14] <DanielTheFox> hmm, and that's one of the reasons I like Linux
[18:14] <Cthulhux> in 2018, people still rely on textual terminals
[18:14] <Cthulhux> :x
[18:14] <DanielTheFox> they still have text terminals
[18:14] <DanielTheFox> which use less CPU/RAM/whatever resources
[18:14] <DanielTheFox> aaand I'm always short on these, so that's pretty much a lifestyle for me
[18:15] <Cthulhux> <DanielTheFox> hmm, and that's one of the reasons I like Linux << so you'd also like bsd, solaris and pretty much everything else that is modelled after or even based on unix v7.
[18:15] <Cthulhux> :-)
[18:15] <DanielTheFox> I haven't used them
[18:15] <DanielTheFox> perhaps I'll like them too
[18:16] <Cthulhux> why use the imitation then?
[18:16] <DanielTheFox> (also, just for the lulz, I use MS-DOS once in a while, just for retro games and some lazy programming)
[18:16] <Cthulhux> there is a market for DOS. the FreeDOS project does still exist! :D
[18:17] <DanielTheFox> yep
[18:17] <DanielTheFox> but I state I use MS-DOS
[18:17] <DanielTheFox> not FreeDOS :|
[18:17] <DanielTheFox> hehe, I'm not entirely free-ish
[18:17] <DanielTheFox> but I guess nobody here does
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[18:17] <DanielTheFox> despite what they say, they still use non-libre stuff somewhere
[18:18] <DanielTheFox> such as the firmware in their smart TVs or the IoT fridge
[18:18] <Cthulhux> like raspbian ;o)
[18:18] <DanielTheFox> it uses non-libre hardware AFAIK
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[18:18] <DanielTheFox> but I thought the software had a better scenario
[18:19] <DanielTheFox> dunno, I didn't read it very well
[18:20] <Cthulhux> we need more open hardware, indeed
[18:20] <Cthulhux> like MIPS, openSPARC or openPOWER
[18:20] <DanielTheFox> but hey
[18:20] <Cthulhux> but everyone has settled to shitty ARM.
[18:20] <DanielTheFox> this hardware is nice
[18:20] <DanielTheFox> much better than what I have
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[18:22] <DanielTheFox> at least this replaces my dead Android phone
[18:23] <DanielTheFox> since I wasn't using the "telephone" capabilities on my cellphone anyway
[18:23] <DanielTheFox> like, no WhatsApp nor messages nor calls
[18:23] <DanielTheFox> I'd use WiFi for other stuff
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[22:48] <jigubigule> Has anyone here built an automated gardening system with the Pi?
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[23:11] <CoJaBo_> "gardening"
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[23:33] <friendofafriend> jigubigule: Not completely automated, some light control and temperature monitoring here.
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[23:42] <BenderRodriguez> CoJaBo_: You should know
[23:42] <BenderRodriguez> Raspberry Pis are well versed in agriculture
[23:43] <BenderRodriguez> show them respect
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[23:43] <CoJaBo_> "agriculture"
[23:43] * stiv did greenhouse temp monitoring with a one-wire sensor and twillio for notification
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[23:49] <CyberManifest> Google 'Raspberry Pi Gardening System' as: https://www.google.com/search?q=Raspberry+Pi+Gardening+System
[23:49] <DanielTheFox> blargh
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[23:50] <DanielTheFox> 2 KB RAM ain't enough for anything useful on an Arduino?
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[23:50] <CyberManifest> this seems promising https://www.kickstarter.com/projects/sunair/raspberry-pi-smart-garden-system-sgs
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[23:53] <friendofafriend> Grew some radish sprouts and pea shoots under LED. If the temperatures went too high, cut the lights to 50% in that zone.
[23:53] <friendofafriend> Luckily, already had a PSU with control by RS-232.
[23:54] <CyberManifest> DanielTheFox: This is less that 6 bytes: http://www.farbrausch.de/prod&which=25.py
[23:55] <DanielTheFox> hmm, cool
[23:55] <CyberManifest> this is 34 bytes: http://www.farbrausch.de/prod&which=35.py
[23:55] <DanielTheFox> I notice people here uses the RPi for nice hardware projects that involve self-control
[23:55] <DanielTheFox> I wonder if they would be doable on an ATMega328
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[23:56] <DanielTheFox> I guess it may be possible but much harder than writing some python
[23:56] <friendofafriend> If you're just reading sensors and toggling relays, Arduino or another microcontroller will work just fine.
[23:57] <CyberManifest> DanielTheFox: this was written entirely within 64k https://youtu.be/Z6Nh0PdknIM
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