#raspberrypi IRC Log

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IRC Log for 2018-11-28

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[0:09] <mfa298> I suspect usb bandwidth or storage speed are the mostly likely things to limit you depending on how much needs to be sent at a time
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[0:15] <barlowg> what if I connected the storage through USB and the network through wifi - would that help?
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[0:16] <mfa298> I think that's something you need to experiment with and do some maths.
[0:17] <barlowg> ok - thanks
[0:17] <mfa298> if you're not recording much most of the io should be streaming from the decoders to the clients, so how much bandwidth is needed per stream and how many clients ...
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[0:22] <barlowg> I do not plan to record much, just have the ability when needed (example - my wife wanted I'm a celeb recording so she could watch it in the morning) there is a main TV in the lounge and a second one in the bedroom. Generaaly only one TV is in use at a time
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[0:24] <d0rm0us3> barlowg: Is it important that powerline network stuff NOT egress the 'facility'?
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[0:26] <barlowg> I am not concerned about the security of the powerline stuff at this time.
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[1:09] <jem> Hi, anyone around to guide me in upgrading from Raspbian wheezy to strech using a USB disk in a model B+ from 2014?
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[1:16] <DanielTheFox> hmm, finally, my RPi won't heat. I just had to underclock further the SDRAM
[1:17] <DanielTheFox> now the SDRAM ranges 100 MHz to 200 MHz
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[1:51] <Phischi> hi, just wondering: does the Pi1(B) need different software?
[1:51] <Phischi> latest Raspbian is not booting....
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[1:54] <Khaytsus> Phischi: fresh flash of it? Or a card from another device?
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[1:54] <Phischi> freshly downloaded and flashed with Rufus
[1:54] <Khaytsus> Should just work
[1:55] <Phischi> no activity....
[1:55] <Phischi> (LED)
[1:55] <Khaytsus> No idea what rufus is, but perhaps you didn't burn it right
[1:55] <Khaytsus> If you put it in a linux or mac machine do you see two partitions?
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[1:55] <DanielTheFox> Windows utility to write disk images into storage devices
[1:55] <Phischi> yup
[1:56] <Phischi> well I can't see the second, but it is there
[1:56] <Phischi> checking the SD-card for errors right now.,..
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[1:58] <Phischi> perhaps the Pi is just dead....
[1:58] <Phischi> it was in the basement unused for years :p
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[1:59] <DanielTheFox> what happens if you try to boot a RPi without a boot drive/device?
[1:59] <ghostboarder> guys, i am running a headless deluge seedbox on my pi3. I have a folder mounted on my NAS with the deluge:deluge creds, and also pi:pi creds. I am able to download but moving to the folder never works. I can paste the error, but tldr is permission denied
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[2:01] <Phischi> DanielTheFox: I would guess nothing?
[2:01] <DanielTheFox> hmm
[2:01] <DanielTheFox> no message on HDMI output?
[2:01] <Phischi> isn't the GPU firmware bootstraping everything?
[2:01] <DanielTheFox> no complaint?
[2:01] <ghostboarder> and also, i can read and write freely to the folder through file manager on this pc
[2:01] <Phischi> no
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[2:01] <DanielTheFox> ok
[2:01] <Phischi> no signal
[2:02] <DanielTheFox> so I'm supposed to guess who prevents the SD card from being read properly
[2:02] <Phischi> so either broken or something odd with the SD-card I guess since I don't see the activity-led blinking
[2:02] <DanielTheFox> and read the ACT leds
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[2:12] <Nothing_> So. How to power a 4 pi cluster/setup? raspberry pi 3
[2:13] <DanielTheFox> get four 2A PSU
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[2:13] <DanielTheFox> one that doesn't shift voltage
[2:14] <Nothing_> i see
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[2:15] <JK-47> Get a multi-outlet USB power hub. 50w+ would be enough for most uses.
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[2:16] <Nothing_> yeah think i will have to go that route
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[2:31] <Phischi> so, this Pi seems dead then....
[2:31] <DanielTheFox> ow
[2:31] <Phischi> 2nc SD-card did not work, too
[2:31] <DanielTheFox> sad story :(
[2:32] <Phischi> nothing happens with Raspbian...
[2:32] <DanielTheFox> my Pi is brand new :3
[2:33] <Khaytsus> Or you're still burning it worng
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[2:49] <BCMM> Phischi: what are you powering the pi with?
[2:49] <Phischi> Samsung charger
[2:49] <Phischi> worked before.
[2:49] <BCMM> have you successfully run a different pi off that supply?
[2:49] <Phischi> yup
[2:50] <Phischi> Pi3 runs no prob
[2:51] <BCMM> hmm, if the sd card also works in a pi 3, maybe it actually *is* dead... is the basement damp?
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[2:54] <Phischi> it's not a MicroSD so no
[2:55] <Phischi> but I tried another SD from my cam
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[3:09] <Phischi> yay
[3:09] <Phischi> the 3rd card works... wtf
[3:10] <Phischi> "changed nothing" [TM]
[3:10] <DanielTheFox> cool
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[3:11] <Phischi> anyone heared that a cardreader could be a prob, even if the diskwrite/read test shows no errors?
[3:12] <DanielTheFox> hmm
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[3:12] <DanielTheFox> check if pins are not dirty
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[3:14] <Phischi> ofcourse did that....
[3:14] <Phischi> not on the card nor the pi
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[3:26] <ghostboarder> guys, i am running a headless deluge seedbox on my pi3. I have a folder mounted on my NAS with the deluge:deluge creds, and also pi:pi creds. I am able to download but moving to the folder never works. I can paste the error, but tldr is permission denied
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[3:44] <nickgaw> Hi, Looking on the web it lookslike you can buy one of the Gert boards prebuilt are these true boards or ones where someone bought the components and soldered the board together as it does not look like the Gert board is made anymore?
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[3:51] <yggdrasil> wasup gents
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[3:53] <DanielTheFox> :3
[3:54] <yggdrasil> yar
[3:54] * DanielTheFox uses his RPi purely from a power bank
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[3:57] <ghostboarder> crazy man.
[3:58] * ghostboarder just realized the 200gb of game torrents he has been d/l are all corrupt because his m2 ssd was underpowered on his pi3
[3:58] <ghostboarder> true story bros
[3:58] <Khaytsus> Underpowered? You were running it directly?
[3:59] <ghostboarder> usb, yeah. That wasnt the issue though, i was using an underpowered AC adapter
[3:59] <ghostboarder> it was the one for my pib
[3:59] <DanielTheFox> don't rely on underpowered chargers
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[4:01] <ghostboarder> its a canakit one, but i didnt have it marked and just plugged it in
[4:01] <yggdrasil> yea it killed of my pi's
[4:01] <yggdrasil> it like crashd and ended up overheating and fried it up.
[4:02] <DanielTheFox> don't rely on regular phone chargers
[4:02] <DanielTheFox> none of ours can maintain 5V
[4:02] <DanielTheFox> the red PWR led goes off in almost all of them
[4:02] <yggdrasil> yea agreed.
[4:02] <ghostboarder> yep not even with a zero
[4:03] <yggdrasil> wow you think?
[4:04] <Khaytsus> phone chargers are terrible, don't use them on a pi.. It'll work, it might even seem okay. But it won't be stable.
[4:04] <DanielTheFox> only power banks have been able to maintain a fairly good 5V supply
[4:05] <ghostboarder> DanielTheFox, gotta swap out for recharging though
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[4:05] <yggdrasil> i bought one of the little "ups" things. and it worked good
[4:05] <yggdrasil> just add bulk
[4:05] <yggdrasil> then i use any charger i want.
[4:06] <DanielTheFox> ghostboarder: sorta :p
[4:06] <DanielTheFox> I bought a 12500 mAh power bank
[4:06] <DanielTheFox> supposedly gonna last about six hours
[4:06] <ghostboarder> with a zero a lot longer, but still
[4:06] <nickgaw> I own the raspberrypi 3b and am totally blind so mainly use text is there a later model out there?
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[4:06] <Khaytsus> I need to get a simple UPS for my pi in my car..
[4:06] <ghostboarder> guys, can i bounce this issue off of yall? ill copy from before
[4:07] <yggdrasil> Khaytsus: they are like 20 bucks or so ?
[4:07] <nickgaw> What battery bank did you buy the 12500 one?
[4:07] <yggdrasil> ghostboarder: i suppose.
[4:07] <ghostboarder> k
[4:07] <ghostboarder> guys, i am running a headless deluge seedbox on my pi3. I have a folder mounted on my NAS with the deluge:deluge creds, and also pi:pi creds. I am able to download but moving to the folder never works. I can paste the error, but tldr is permission denied
[4:08] <ghostboarder> and also, i can read and write freely to the folder through file manager on this pc
[4:08] <Khaytsus> yggdrasil: You have a link? What I was looking for was alkaline batteries, just needs to run long enough to power down, power up automatically
[4:08] <yggdrasil> just something from amazon.
[4:08] <DanielTheFox> nickgaw: one branded as Adata
[4:08] <DanielTheFox> it has fancy display with current battery contents
[4:09] <DanielTheFox> dad has one as well, this way I could test the RPi drained 1% each almost exactly five minutes
[4:09] <DanielTheFox> more or less 500 minutes if I want to go from 100% to 0%
[4:09] <DanielTheFox> which I don't recommend because you must leave yourself some spare charge
[4:09] <DanielTheFox> (for the poweroff required procedure and the extra power it may require)
[4:10] <yggdrasil> ghostboarder: sounds like permissions on the file system
[4:11] <ghostboarder> well yeah that seems obvious, but both the pi user and the deluge user have full rights to the file system on the nas
[4:11] <Khaytsus> yggdrasil: You happen to have a link? I looked around a few but the one I found didn't seem to be available anymore and most were lithium
[4:11] <nickgaw> How well do the power banks handle when it starts to die on the raspberrypi?
[4:11] <ghostboarder> the permission denied seems to come at the "rename" action
[4:11] <DanielTheFox> but not to the files themselves
[4:11] <DanielTheFox> or yeah?
[4:12] <yggdrasil> Khaytsus: yea let me fire up the gui on my box.
[4:12] <ghostboarder> to the folder i am mounting, yes DanielTheFox
[4:12] <DanielTheFox> ok
[4:12] <yggdrasil> running an underpowered laptop.
[4:12] <yggdrasil> its sad.
[4:13] <DanielTheFox> my laptop is even slower than the RPi
[4:13] <DanielTheFox> but not that much, especially because I heavily underclock my Pi (and I'm proud of it!)
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[4:13] <nickgaw> danielthefox what model do you have?
[4:14] <DanielTheFox> 3 B+
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[4:14] <nickgaw> me to how do you under clock the 3b?
[4:14] <DanielTheFox> make up that question, please
[4:14] * DanielTheFox didn't understand it
[4:15] <nickgaw> How do you make the model 3b run slower then it normally does?
[4:15] <DanielTheFox> I underclocked it into 200MHz-600MHz range, and SDRAM 100MHz to 200MHz
[4:15] <DanielTheFox> nickgaw: tampering at /boot/config.txt
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[4:15] <nickgaw> How fast can you over clock the 3b to without fliping the bit in the processor?
[4:16] <DanielTheFox> hmm
[4:17] <DanielTheFox> arm_freq_min=200
[4:17] <DanielTheFox> arm_freq=800
[4:17] <DanielTheFox> (I lied, it is from 200 to 800)
[4:17] <DanielTheFox> sdram_freq=100 (I lied on this one before too, it is now fixed to 100 MHz)
[4:17] <yggdrasil> Makerfocus Raspi UPS HAT Board for Raspberry Pi 3 Model B Pi 2B B+ A+ and 2500mAh Lithium Battery
[4:18] <yggdrasil> nothing special, just whatever popped up i gess.
[4:18] <DanielTheFox> ok
[4:18] <DanielTheFox> whatever
[4:18] <yggdrasil> well thats what i ordered and it worked good
[4:19] <nickgaw> but I wish to over clock the device and make it run faster then the default is this possible?
[4:19] <yggdrasil> it can hat or it has a usb.
[4:19] <nickgaw> What does this board do provide external power?
[4:20] <DanielTheFox> nickgaw: arm_freq=1500
[4:20] <yggdrasil> yea that was a link for Khaytsus
[4:20] <DanielTheFox> that's (reportedly) chip's top speed tho
[4:20] <DanielTheFox> the 3 B+ cannot be overclocked that much
[4:20] <DanielTheFox> it is already factory-overclocked
[4:21] <DanielTheFox> and I reverted that effect in order to extend the power bank life
[4:22] <Khaytsus> yggdrasil: yeah, lithium :/ I'd prefer to avoid that, since it's living in the car..
[4:22] <nickgaw> does that 1500 flip that bit so they know you over clocked it?
[4:22] <Khaytsus> I suppose I could just look into what power input it will support and possibly run AA's into it
[4:23] <yggdrasil> hmm.
[4:23] <yggdrasil> nicd ?
[4:24] <Khaytsus> or just alk.. it'd only run for like 30s at a time I'd think max
[4:24] <Khaytsus> Just long enough to power own
[4:25] <DanielTheFox> nickgaw: no, it doesn't
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[4:25] <DanielTheFox> overvolting is what can set the warranty bit
[4:25] <DanielTheFox> overclocking itself can't, the CPU will not boot or become unstable if you accelerate too much
[4:25] <DanielTheFox> and it will throttle itself if it heats too much anyway
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[4:26] <yggdrasil> Khaytsus: what does your pi do in your car?
[4:26] <Khaytsus> yggdrasil: gps tracklog. when it gets on the home wifi it rsyncs it.. cron job imports it into a database
[4:26] <yggdrasil> pretty cool.
[4:27] <nickgaw> As I am totally blind and use text to speech on the raspberrypi could this have an effect on how hot the processor gets?
[4:27] <DanielTheFox> hmm
[4:28] <DanielTheFox> generating test should not cause this
[4:28] <DanielTheFox> uhh, I mean, generating voice text
[4:28] <DanielTheFox> argh, my mind is wrong today
[4:28] <DanielTheFox> no, it should not have any effect on heating
[4:29] <DanielTheFox> are you using a desktop environment?
[4:29] <nickgaw> so a screen reader should not cause any major issues with over clocking then?
[4:29] <DanielTheFox> nickgaw: it should not really need tho
[4:29] <DanielTheFox> screen reading just generates voice out of text, not THAT hard
[4:29] <nickgaw> What is a safe over volt that won't flip the bit in the chip?
[4:30] <DanielTheFox> I think it was up to over_voltage=4
[4:30] <DanielTheFox> and you'd do that along with an overclock
[4:30] <DanielTheFox> take in mind this WILL heat the computer
[4:31] <DanielTheFox> especially if you're using a case with bad ventilation
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[4:31] <dogbert2> anyone in here own a 3B+
[4:31] <DanielTheFox> yes
[4:31] <DanielTheFox> me
[4:31] <dogbert2> how do you like it?
[4:31] <nickgaw> I am using the normal 3b case that the foundation built. so for safe over volting what would the line look like?
[4:32] <nickgaw> yes
[4:32] <nickgaw> 3b
[4:32] <Khaytsus> yggdrasil: http://www.voc-electronics.com/a-36289459/power-batteries-adapters/pi-ups/ this is what seems perfect for me but I can't get them to respond to email
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[4:32] <DanielTheFox> nickgaw: does the computer has a heatsink and a fan?
[4:33] <yggdrasil> let me take a look.
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[4:33] <nickgaw> my main laptops do but not the raspberrypi 3b just the normal board and the case.
[4:33] <yggdrasil> yea should do it.
[4:33] <dogbert2> I have a heatsink on my libre computer Le Potato...works well enuf
[4:34] <Khaytsus> yggdrasil: problem is I think pi's have quite a vampire drain even when halted, as they really just halt the cpu
[4:34] <Khaytsus> yggdrasil: so I think that'd include when powered off here.. :/
[4:34] <DanielTheFox> nickgaw: then the default settings are pretty much the top speed
[4:34] <DanielTheFox> the board already heats quite a bit
[4:34] <yggdrasil> wai what ?
[4:34] <yggdrasil> thats what the little board does is kill power to the pi
[4:35] <yggdrasil> after initiging a shutdown script
[4:35] <nickgaw> but can it be over volted safely?
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[4:36] <Khaytsus> yggdrasil: I just assumed it can tell the pi a status (gpio high) but the pi couldn't tell the ups bit to turn itself off
[4:36] <yggdrasil> yea i think thats what the baords do.
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[4:36] <yggdrasil> i never bothered to hook mine up properly.
[4:36] <yggdrasil> but i think there is some sort of serial communication ?
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[4:37] <yggdrasil> and i think the usb input has some built in ability to clean the power going to the pi.
[4:37] <Khaytsus> yggdrasil: let me rewatch the video, been a while. I was thinking it was just one way
[4:37] <nickgaw> What video are you talking about?
[4:37] <yggdrasil> hmm.. i honestly dont know. electronics has always been my weakest.
[4:37] <yggdrasil> hard as i may try.
[4:38] <DanielTheFox> I notice 100 MHz RAM is not that slow
[4:38] <DanielTheFox> and it greatly improves cooling over the default 400 MHz
[4:38] <Khaytsus> yggdrasil: oh, the video says it cuts the power. :)
[4:39] <yggdrasil> yea right
[4:39] <yggdrasil> im sure they are all using alot of the same circuit.
[4:39] <Khaytsus> I just wish they'd email me back :/
[4:39] <nickgaw> What is the name of the video?
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[4:47] <yggdrasil> nickgaw: i dont know
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[4:57] <friendofafriend> dogbert2: Are you pleased with Le Potato?
[4:59] <dogbert2> works well enuf...got the Le Potato, power supply, and case for like $40 some months ago...not a bad piece of h/w...though I'm looking at a 3B+
[5:00] <friendofafriend> The 3B+ is great for that wifi chip alone. I'm sure they're having a hard time sourcing LPDDR2.
[5:01] * DanielTheFox wonders when these will come with red PCB, but then realizes the green PCB makes the computer already look cute
[5:02] <dogbert2> hmmmmmm
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[5:06] <nickgaw> What is lpdtr
[5:07] <friendofafriend> Low-power DDR.
[5:08] <friendofafriend> Most competing SBCs are using DDR3 or DDR4 now.
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[5:10] <nickgaw> Is 32 gigs the largest micro SDHC card the raspberrypi 3b can support?
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[5:13] <friendofafriend> 32GB cards work universally, there are some larger cards that also work.
[5:14] <friendofafriend> According to this, the Samsung Evo MB-MP64DA/EU (64GB) and the SanDisk Ultra 128GB work. https://raspberrypi.stackexchange.com/questions/45312/is-there-any-limit-for-micro-sd-card-size-in-pi3
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[5:23] <Phischi> man, that Pi1 really was slow...
[5:24] <Phischi> sp
[5:24] <Phischi> sp
[5:24] <Phischi> so
[5:24] <Phischi> narf
[5:24] <Phischi> so, it looks like that the card is a bit loose om
[5:24] <Phischi> in the slot
[5:25] <Phischi> the only difference to the working one is that it goes in with less friction...
[5:25] <Phischi> same height, too
[5:25] <Phischi> odd
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[5:29] <friendofafriend> You might be able to bend the contacts back out with a dental pick.
[5:29] <Phischi> the contacts are way higher than the pads.... odd
[5:29] <friendofafriend> Still using a Pi1 daily to stream from a couple TV tuners, very satisfied with the Pi1's performance.
[5:30] <Phischi> yeah well changing locales took a while :p
[5:33] <friendofafriend> The Pi really shines when you're trying to put the function of some USB device onto your LAN, instead of having yet another dongle plugged into your PC.
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[5:34] <friendofafriend> Heck, I've got a Pi Zero here that's streaming from a TV tuner and an MJPEG webcam with nary a hiccup. Kind of a tight fit for a 2GB microSD card, but it gets by. :P
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[5:41] <genr8_> you guys know that 32 or even 64 gb SD Cards are like <$10 especially on sale
[5:41] <genr8_> dont be SD card poor.
[5:43] <friendofafriend> Right, but that's the cost of another Pi Zero.
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[5:45] <friendofafriend> Should probably just switch that small SD card over to OpenWRT, it's not doing anything special.
[5:53] <Zardoz> haha
[5:54] <Zardoz> Rust
[5:54] <Zardoz> mmm not connected
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[6:48] <nuxil> Hi
[6:50] <nuxil> I got a stupid Q.. how do you compile stuff on a raspberrypi ? do you use a other system with setting for arm cpu? i wanted to compile some coin wallet. and it complained about "out of virtual memory". so i had to find a usb to sata converter and toss in a 100GB disk, made it a to swap partition. and run swapon blah.. now no more error lacking memory.
[6:50] <nuxil> this seems to be a bit silly..
[6:50] <nuxil> so.. do people compile on other system for the pi's
[6:51] <friendofafriend> Some people cross-compile, it's somewhat complicated to set up.
[6:51] <friendofafriend> Others use QEMU to emulate ARM.
[6:51] <nuxil> i bet.
[6:51] <nuxil> oh.
[6:51] <nuxil> tell me more
[6:52] <friendofafriend> It's just as slow to compile on QEMU ARM as your Raspberry Pi.
[6:52] <nuxil> lol. ok
[6:56] <friendofafriend> Your best bet would probably be to set up a virtual machine that does nothing but provide a build environment for cross-compiling. That way, you don't have to worry about hosing your system while you goof around with ARM libraries.
[6:57] <DanielTheFox> rule 1 for asking question: don't label your question as stupid or we'll label the whole question as is (regardless if it's actually dumb or not), let us decide if it's a dumb question or not. Just do your best and ask your question, we'll do our best to answer it or point you to online documents
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[6:58] <friendofafriend> Yes, allow us to judge your question and write remarks in our notebooks.
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[7:00] <nuxil> that sounds like a lot of work. guess i'll just be patiant with my Pi.. i dont intend to do that much compilling on it.
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[7:01] <friendofafriend> The Pi3 is quad-core, are you using make -j4 ?
[7:02] <nuxil> i dont have pi3 yet, i ordered one on black friday. atm i only got a pi2b
[7:02] <nuxil> waiting for it to arrive in the mail
[7:02] <friendofafriend> The Pi2B is quad core, also.
[7:04] <nuxil> but it runs at 800mhz vs 1.2/1.4 as the pi3b does
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[7:05] <nuxil> i actually thought the pi2b was a dual core. but cat/proc/cpuinfo tells me otherwizw :)
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[7:07] <friendofafriend> Might get somewhere with a bit of an overclock and a heatsink. Some airflow.
[7:08] <nuxil> yea.. i seen i cant tweek the clock freq in the config.txt located in /boot
[7:08] <nuxil> *i can
[7:08] <nuxil> but i dont have a heatsink that fits
[7:08] <friendofafriend> Well, try your next compile with make -j4 and see how it goes.
[7:10] <friendofafriend> If your heatsink won't clear, might try a copper heatsink shim. https://www.amazon.com/0-8mm-Heatsink-Thermal-Copper-Laptop/dp/B007PPEUXQ
[7:11] <nuxil> yea -j(n) can indeed be handy..
[7:11] <nuxil> just looked it up to see what it does.
[7:12] <friendofafriend> You might find your Pi gets a little warmer than the first compile. ;)
[7:12] <nuxil> friendofafriend, i dont think i'll be overlocking this pi2.. i'll just leave it running stock. perhaps i do add a heatsink to the pi3 when i get it.
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[7:13] <friendofafriend> Maybe try your compile again and see if adding that flag to make changes things. Good luck, nuxil! :)
[7:14] <nuxil> no no.. im 3 hours into the compile.. not gonna touch anything now :p
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[7:15] <friendofafriend> Only three hours?! :o
[7:15] <friendofafriend> Perfect timing.
[7:16] <nuxil> heh :)
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[7:18] <nuxil> i want to use this pi as a crypto coin staker. installing misc coin wallets on it. and let it stake.. i think PI is nice for this job since it doesnt require lot of power. and staking coins dosent require alot of gpu power as mining does.
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[7:57] <exo-squad> so i used a pi0 to setup a vpn at my parents house so i could watch their cable.. but the video is kinda bad...
[7:57] <exo-squad> should i try using a pi3 ?
[8:03] <gordonDrogon> have you ruled out the quality (or otherwise) of their Internet connection?
[8:03] <exo-squad> its gigabit fiber to gigabit fiber
[8:03] <gordonDrogon> lucky.
[8:03] <exo-squad> google fiber
[8:03] <exo-squad> its awesome
[8:04] <gordonDrogon> then try a pi3.
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[8:04] <xacktm> how is cpu usage on the pi0?
[8:05] <nuxil> maybe you need a key for the mpg2 decoder. i know when i used my pi2 as a mediacenter it was un useble without buying the mpg2 key for the builtin hw decoder.
[8:06] <nuxil> videos was choppy
[8:07] <nuxil> http://www.raspberrypi.com/mpeg-2-license-key/
[8:08] <nuxil> that stuff i had to buy :p
[8:08] <exo-squad> oh no. its just forwarding the traffic
[8:08] <nuxil> ah
[8:09] <exo-squad> im using openvpn also
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[8:19] <nuxil> i bet openvpn is the root to your problems. it takes to much cpu to power for a little weak arm processor.
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[8:24] <exo-squad> it seems to be one of the easiest ones
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[10:12] <chris_99> silly question which way do you point this up - https://thepihut.com/products/built-in-gps-antenna-with-amplifing-function
[10:13] <chris_99> i assume the ceramicy bit facing up
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[10:16] <tommy``> good day people!
[10:16] <chris_99> mornin'
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[10:46] <chris_99> got it
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[10:53] <gordonDrogon> chris_99, you can get complete GPS modules in that same package size.
[10:55] <chris_99> oh? such as? i'm using a ublox gps atm which has a usb interface, do those too?
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[10:55] <gordonDrogon> I've used the ublox ones with serial.
[10:55] <chris_99> yeah i don't have a free serial
[10:55] <chris_99> afaik
[10:56] <gordonDrogon> http://www.hobbytronics.co.uk/ublox-gps-neo6m?keyword=gps
[10:56] <chris_99> neat cheers
[10:56] <chris_99> that's a good price
[10:56] <gordonDrogon> ah, ok, no serial.
[10:56] <mlelstv> don't have the USB ones just a USB-serial internally?
[10:57] <gordonDrogon> well, any usb to serial adapter would work with that.
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[10:58] <chris_99> yeah that's true
[10:58] <gordonDrogon> they're usually fixed at 9600 baud, but ublox have their own protocol which is less wordy than nmea and allows much faster updates - like 10/sec from what I remember (for drone use)
[10:58] <chris_99> ooh
[10:59] <gordonDrogon> I recall it's faster to parse too - being fixed length packets.
[10:59] <chris_99> ahh
[10:59] <gordonDrogon> on a Pi that's not an issue but I was using 20Mhz MCUs at the time
[10:59] <chris_99> what did you use them for?
[11:00] <gordonDrogon> drones.
[11:00] <chris_99> nice
[11:00] <chris_99> so they could follow fixed flight paths?
[11:00] <gordonDrogon> that wasn't the intention.
[11:02] <gordonDrogon> it was all a bit top secret at the time (from a commercial point of view, not national security), and there was lots of NDAs and "stuff". Sadly they decided to pull the funding on it which left me a bit out of pocket on some stuff, but when I get time I might resurect it all.
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[11:03] <chris_99> gotcha
[11:04] <chris_99> Out of interest, has anyone got any recommendations to make a 'jig' for easily connecting to ws2812 lights, without soldering, i'm wondering if i can hack something up with pogo pins, somehow
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[11:05] <chris_99> i don't want to solder to the strip really although have done before, because that can snap off fairly easily
[11:05] <gordonDrogon> technology has moved on though, but if these guys had stuck it out, they'd have had the best drone control system, but hey ho...
[11:05] <Habbie> i had some wires coming out of the end of my ws2812 strip
[11:05] <Habbie> and i could poke them right into a breadboard
[11:05] <chris_99> yeah i have to cut mine down
[11:05] <Habbie> or the female end of a dupont cable
[11:05] <chris_99> as the first led
[11:05] <Habbie> ah
[11:05] <chris_99> as broken heh
[11:05] <chris_99> *has
[11:05] <Habbie> then you'll need to solder or find a very suitable clamp
[11:05] <chris_99> yeah i'm thinking i can diy something
[11:05] <chris_99> to clamp with pogos maybe
[11:06] <Habbie> or crocodile clamps?
[11:06] <chris_99> hmm
[11:06] <chris_99> that's a good idea
[11:06] <chris_99> although they could short each other maybe
[11:06] <Habbie> if you can find small ones and make them not touch eachother
[11:06] <chris_99> mm
[11:07] <Habbie> or, how about an ISA slot?
[11:07] <Habbie> if you get what i mean
[11:07] <Habbie> like the 'docking stations' for the micro:bit
[11:07] <chris_99> don't know what you mean?
[11:07] <chris_99> i only know isa from mobos
[11:08] <Habbie> http://www.cyberresearch.com/store/passive-backplanes-pc-computers/industrial-computers-rugged-pcs/backplanes-5-6-7-8-slots/PBI_03_6433.2.htm
[11:08] <Habbie> yes
[11:08] <chris_99> oh interesting!
[11:08] <chris_99> and poke it in
[11:08] <Habbie> get it?
[11:08] <Habbie> it's a very rough idea
[11:08] <chris_99> hmm thats cool
[11:08] <chris_99> ill investigate that
[11:08] <Habbie> i bet aliexpress has them in various sizes
[11:08] <chris_99> mm
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[11:09] <chris_99> oh also - re. crocs - https://www.adafruit.com/product/1969
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[11:10] <Habbie> ah
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[13:26] <nuxil> chris_99, that clamp. ewww.. do you got a 3d printer?? this is a nice thing, https://www.thingiverse.com/thing:2427726 i printed it out myself and its verry usefull
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[13:30] <chris_99> i can't see any images on that page alas
[13:30] <chris_99> of the thing
[13:31] <chris_99> i don't have a printer alas
[13:31] <chris_99> though
[13:31] <chris_99> oh it works now
[13:31] <chris_99> that looks impressive
[13:31] <chris_99> but i have 6 led strips heh
[13:32] <nuxil> sorry.. didnt follow hole conversation. saw a link to some clamp with pogopin. and i thought you needed some probe thingy.
[13:32] <chris_99> i want to sort of clamp on some kind of connector/jig/... to ws2812 strips
[13:32] <chris_99> so no soldering basically
[13:33] <nuxil> i see. yea. you want some clamp thingy instead then.
[13:34] <chris_99> mm, just trying to think the best way
[13:34] <chris_99> and cheapest heh
[13:35] <nuxil> cheapest? idk.. take some springs from a couple of inc pen's and make a rig using thouse :p
[13:35] <chris_99> haha
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[13:36] <nuxil> or ducktape.. ducktape fixes everything :p
[13:36] <chris_99> haha
[13:36] <nuxil> any perticular reason you dont want|can to solder?
[13:36] <chris_99> yeah i have soldered to them before
[13:36] <chris_99> but..
[13:36] <chris_99> it can break off easily
[13:37] <chris_99> unless i drilled the flex
[13:37] <chris_99> i guess
[13:38] <nuxil> cant you just put on some hot snort "glue gun"
[13:38] <nuxil> after you have soldered?
[13:39] <chris_99> hmm i guess i could do that
[13:40] <nuxil> i did that once. https://gyazo.com/93ef00ff14aa66bd69dfd8b1cd2a028f on a prototype board .. looks like shit tho.. but wires aint going anywhere :p
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[14:26] <resi__> anyone know the cheapest place to get pi b+?
[14:26] <resi__> I see on amazon it as 40+?
[14:26] <resi__> thought it was 3$35?
[14:26] <BurtyB> resi__, I'd guess at your local reseller being cheaper
[14:27] <resi__> local reseller?
[14:28] <BurtyB> resi__, https://www.raspberrypi.org/products/ click "Buy Now" should show you them
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[14:36] <resi__> thank you will look into... after initial look it appears there is shipping expenses
[14:36] <resi__> amazon might be cheaper
[14:36] <DrJ> resi__: I've found amazon to be the cheapest, especially if you are a prime member
[14:37] <DrJ> since there is no shipping cost
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[14:37] <DrJ> plus I get 5% back on everything I buy there... so that cuts off a couple bucks as well
[14:37] <resi__> me too
[14:37] <resi__> thanks
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[14:40] <Khaytsus> I love amazon but you do have to be careful with prices. Some things are quite a bit more there, although sometimes balances out compared to shipping elsewhere.
[14:40] <Khaytsus> Nothing beats ebay for random parts.. if you can wait.
[14:40] <DrJ> I will never sell or buy on ebay again, out of protest
[14:40] <Khaytsus> I don't really like it either
[14:41] <DrJ> I use to sell a lot on ebay and then about 5-10 years ago they started there "no questions asked, buyer is always right" policy
[14:41] <DrJ> due to that, it's not safe to sell anything on ebay
[14:41] <DrJ> their
[14:41] <Khaytsus> But if I need 5 TP5000 charge controllers or some shit, that's where you gotta go really
[14:41] <Khaytsus> Oh, i rarely sell anything there. When I do I always feel like I got ripped off.
[14:42] <Khaytsus> Something I know I could sell for $100 winds up at $50 shipped or something.
[14:42] <DrJ> I could sell a laptop on ebay, the buyer "return it" with a box full of rocks and ebay will force me to refund and all I get to do is expand my rock collection
[14:42] <Khaytsus> But rocks are nice
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[14:42] <DrJ> not the ones the buyers return :)
[14:42] <Khaytsus> But yeah I know what you mean. I've gotten screwed once on a sale.
[14:43] <Khaytsus> Buyer claimed the item was damaged, not in shipping, was not as pictured in the auction.
[14:43] <Khaytsus> When what I shipped was freaking AS NEW.
[14:43] <DrJ> your only recourse is to go to the police, but unless you live in the same jurisdiction as the buyer (highly unlikely), that's pretty much impossible
[14:43] <Khaytsus> Luckily it was $30.. not $300 or such
[14:44] <Khaytsus> But I also don't trust craigslist etc either, so
[14:44] <DrJ> but yea, amazon can be more expensive on somethings, but for most they are cheaper
[14:44] <Khaytsus> I wish pieces parts on Amazon were cheaper. Again, like little electronic parts, shit that dorks like us randomly need ;)
[14:44] <DrJ> and with free shipping and the 5% back on every order... they are almost always the cheaper option for me even if the initial price tag is a bit higher
[14:44] <Khaytsus> How are you getting 5% back?
[14:44] <DrJ> amazon credit card
[14:45] <DrJ> if you pay with that you get 5% back on every single order
[14:45] <Khaytsus> maybe I should look into that then.. I already have another CC I purely use for points.
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[14:45] <DrJ> store card works as well
[14:45] <Khaytsus> I use it, pay it off immediately
[14:45] <DrJ> both offer 5%
[14:45] <Khaytsus> I'll chec that out, thanks!
[14:45] <DrJ> but I like their credit card. 5% back on amazon, 2% at returants, gas stations, and pharmacys... 1% everywhere else
[14:46] <DrJ> the amazon cc is also made out of metal, first card like that I've ever had
[14:46] <Khaytsus> Yeah, this one gives me 4% at restaraunts, 3% gas, 2% grocery, 1% everything els
[14:47] <Khaytsus> so I guess if you mix your cards up and get ones that give yout he most points on different hings you can max out ;)
[14:47] <DrJ> what card is that?
[14:47] <DrJ> I do that... I have another card that is 1.5% everywhere... so I use that where I don't get the 2% with my amazon card
[14:47] <DrJ> such as walmart
[14:48] <Khaytsus> PNC rewards. Oops, backwards. 4% on gas, 3% on food, 2% grocers, 1% else
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[14:48] <DrJ> Among all my cards I typically get about $30 back a month combined
[14:48] <DrJ> I also pay off my cards every single day
[14:48] <Khaytsus> Yeah. I keep saying I need to look around, see if there's anything newer/better.. replace this one, or add to it to maximize points back
[14:48] <DrJ> so I never pay interest
[14:48] <Khaytsus> Yeah, I alwys pay mine off immediately
[14:49] <Khaytsus> Unless it's something big and then I'll stage it out as needed, but never carry a balance
[14:49] <Khaytsus> My wife on the other hand is terrible with cards
[14:49] <DrJ> yes, that's right, I make between 300-365 payments on my amazon card alone a year
[14:49] <DrJ> of course, somedays I don't use it so no payment needed
[14:49] <Khaytsus> My card only incurs interest if the balance is over 30 days old
[14:49] <DrJ> yea, it's like that for all cards
[14:50] <DrJ> by federal law they can't start charging interest until 21 days after the statement date
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[14:50] <Khaytsus> Yeah, so, paying it off daily seems overkill but ;)
[14:50] <Khaytsus> Okay I gotta get moving heh
[14:50] <DrJ> but I just pay daily so I can better keep track of my funds in my bank
[14:50] <DrJ> by doing that I never have to make a huge cc payment and end up in a situation where I discover I spent more than I should have
[14:51] <DrJ> plus, I login to all my accounts daily to make sure there is no funny business going on... so why not pay while in there
[14:52] <Khaytsus> 28% interest, HOLY SHIT I see why you pay it off daily
[14:53] <DrJ> I couldn't tell you the interest rate on any of my cards
[14:53] <DrJ> because I've never paid a penny in interest on a cc in my life
[14:53] <Khaytsus> That's good. But holy shit, don't carry a balance here ever, wow.
[14:53] <Khaytsus> Syncrony Bank will give money to anyone.. they are who google uses
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[14:53] <DrJ> yea
[14:53] <Khaytsus> I have bought four phones through 'em.. no interest. Paid off with my CC, earning cash ;)
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[14:54] <DrJ> I've used syncrony bank for no interest payment plans on some dentist work I had done a while ago, plus some furnature I bought
[14:54] <Khaytsus> Yeah. Just always follow their terms or get rekt
[14:54] <Khaytsus> They are the type of bank a less disciplined user would be screwed by
[14:55] <Khaytsus> Okay, really gotta go now
[14:55] <DrJ> of course, I paid those off long before the term expired
[14:55] <DrJ> but yea, they give money to anyone because if you don't payoff by the term date... you are screwed
[14:57] <DrJ> btw, the amazon card I have is at 24.24%...just looked
[14:57] <DrJ> again, don't care
[14:57] <DrJ> Total interest and fees charged in 2018: $0.00
[14:57] <DrJ> :)
[14:58] <DrJ> that is a variable rate though, so probably one late payment and bam... the 28% you mentioned
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[15:23] <Khaytsus> DrJ: Odd, I have like 800's score, I wonder if their rates have varied over issue time or such
[15:23] <DrJ> no idea, mine is just under 800 too
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[15:24] <DrJ> I think those type of cards are always high interest rates though
[15:29] <ShorTie> start running a balance and the rate goes up it seems to me
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[15:30] <Khaytsus> DrJ: Oh yes, those types of cards are always high. But your'e right, ignore interest rates and look at benefits if you're going to pay it off. If you need to carry a balance, most likely you're not getting points etc on a low interest card, etc. Different tools for different jobs ;)
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[15:30] <DrJ> Khaytsus: yea
[15:31] <DrJ> but again, never paid a penny of cc interest in my life... so I don't care what the interest rate is :)
[15:31] <Khaytsus> I recall someone teling me he has 6 different cards. He knows which one to use where for the maximum beneifts.. heh.. that's a bit much. But..
[15:32] <DrJ> I only have two primary ones
[15:32] <DrJ> the amazon card is used on amazon, gas stations, resturants, and pharmacys... the other is used everywhere else.
[15:32] <DrJ> I really need to find a card that gives more than 1.5% everywhere.
[15:32] <DrJ> that one is chase freedom
[15:32] <Khaytsus> Oh, btw, the Amazon card was an instant $60 gift card too. Score.
[15:33] <DrJ> yea, I believe I got something like that when I got it
[15:33] <DrJ> so you got it?
[15:33] <Khaytsus> What do you get back on those categories? i quickly looked at hte info but didn't look deeply yet
[15:33] <DrJ> 5% amazon
[15:33] <Khaytsus> Yeah, why not.. I probably spend $1000 or more there a year
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[15:34] <DrJ> 2% gas stations, drugstores, and resturants
[15:34] <DrJ> 1% everything else
[15:34] <DrJ> you are prime, right?
[15:34] <DrJ> you only get 3% back on amazon if you are not prime
[15:34] <Khaytsus> Cool. I should create myself a cheat sheet for which card to use where ;)
[15:34] <Khaytsus> But yeah I'm prime, have been for many years
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[15:35] <DrJ> :)
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[15:36] <DrJ> another nice thing about the amazon card is if you have points on it you can apply them directly to future amazon purchases
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[15:36] <DrJ> although, technically that's not a good idea
[15:37] <DrJ> because you wont get the 5% on the points you use. Better to take the cash
[15:37] <Khaytsus> Gotcha. Yeah, I prefer cash. Points they can kind of assign however they want.
[15:39] <DrJ> btw, I mentioned it earlier... but if you get the same card I have it is actually made of metal
[15:39] <DrJ> not just plastic
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[15:39] <DrJ> people often comment to me about how its heavier than any other card they've held
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[15:41] <Khaytsus> DrJ: amex apparently does 1.5% on all
[15:41] <DrJ> my chase freedom does that
[15:41] <Khaytsus> Poked into Credit Karma just for giggles
[15:41] <Khaytsus> gotcha
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[18:20] <Tenkawa> hi akll
[18:20] <Tenkawa> er all
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[18:56] <brane_> guday. a couple days ago i got an rpi3 b+ and installed raspbian on it
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[18:58] <brane_> overnight, i lost network connection to the machine. i tried changing cables, connecting to a different switch, and of course verifying the that the cables and switches work by testing them with my laptop. nothing helped. there are now no connection/activity light blinking on the rpi, diagnostics show that the logical adapter is there but has 'no carrier'
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[18:59] <DanielTheFox> ip link set eth0 up
[18:59] <DanielTheFox> oh, you already read "NO-CARRIER"
[18:59] <brane_> oh come on :) i'm not a total fool :)
[19:00] <DanielTheFox> it's easier to assume everybody is than assuming everyone knows everything except the problem they want to solve
[19:00] <brane_> indeed
[19:00] <brane_> i'm wondering if i just got unlucky with a manufacturing defect, or maybe even managed to fry my NIC chip?
[19:00] <DanielTheFox> tried rebooting WITH the cable connected to the switch?
[19:00] <brane_> yes
[19:01] <brane_> all sorts of combinations
[19:01] <brane_> with, without, with cable in pi but not in switch (that last would be a minor miracle)
[19:01] <DanielTheFox> hey
[19:02] <brane_> changing SD card, reinstalling from scratch ...
[19:02] <DanielTheFox> brane_: when you reboot the RPi, do you see two dim LEDs on the ethernet port? (they turn on very dim regardless ethernet connection)
[19:02] <DanielTheFox> there are two leds: green and orange
[19:02] <DanielTheFox> when you boot the RPi, they turn on, but very dim
[19:03] <brane_> nope, but then, the lights are on here ... give me a second to try that
[19:03] <DanielTheFox> once the computer boots the operating system, they shutdown
[19:03] <DanielTheFox> if there's a cable, the green LED turns on
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[19:04] <brane_> yup, both leds turn on, very dim, when i power on the pi
[19:04] <DanielTheFox> ok, I guess that means the network card is not dead
[19:04] <brane_> let me stick the sd back in and see what happens when i boot it
[19:05] <DanielTheFox> no matter what, the LEDs should not keep dim like that once you boot Linux properly
[19:05] <DanielTheFox> I think they mean "connected to power but not initialized"
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[19:06] * brane_ .oO(it's soo frustrating when it suddenly stops working)
[19:07] <DanielTheFox> brane_: what happened?
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[19:08] <brane_> as follows: 1) without sd card, power on, leds are dim, remain unchanged with cable inserted. 2) with sd card, power on, leds are dim, then turn off once the kernel starts loading and stay off with cable inserted
[19:09] <DanielTheFox> hmm, that's not going alright
[19:09] <brane_> nope
[19:09] <brane_> oh, im' ussing the 'official' 2.5A power adapter
[19:09] <brane_> it's not even warm, so there's probably not too much current drain
[19:10] <DanielTheFox> if the cable is inserted (and you verified it's not broken and it's properly connected to the switch and the RPi), the green LED (or yellow if it's a very old switch or a very long (>200m) cable) should turn on
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[19:10] <brane_> yes, i know ...
[19:10] <brane_> the cable is certainly OK, as is the switch, i used 'em from this laptop 5 minutes ago
[19:11] <brane_> (well ok, they could've gone south in those 5 minutes)
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[19:11] <brane_> let me try this again with a shorter patch to the switch. this is all cat6 btw
[19:11] <DanielTheFox> blow at the connectors and the ports (I know this is so NES-era, and this may introduce moisture, accelerating corrosion), maybe it works
[19:12] <brane_> grasping at straws, are we :) already? sure, i'll try that :D
[19:13] <DanielTheFox> hmm, if not, then it could be a software issue?
[19:13] <DanielTheFox> did you try reinstalling the software?
[19:14] <brane_> several times
[19:14] <brane_> but still, with the box powered on and ehternet connected, the link light should go on
[19:14] <brane_> even with no OS
[19:15] <brane_> it went off the air while the OS was updating, so the connection worked up to then
[19:16] <DanielTheFox> hmm, this is weird
[19:16] <brane_> i do see a suspicious solder joint on the bottom side of the board, right in the middle between the ethernet connector's plastic snap pins
[19:17] <DanielTheFox> hmm, take a photo/pic?
[19:17] <brane_> there's no wire there, just a blob of solder ... it doesn't seem loose, but that could be misleading
[19:17] <DanielTheFox> hmm
[19:17] <DanielTheFox> there are blobs that help mechanical stability of the ports
[19:19] <brane_> ack
[19:19] <brane_> where do i put the pics?
[19:19] <DanielTheFox> http://www.dostalk.tk/upload.dyn
[19:19] <DanielTheFox> my website :p
[19:20] <DanielTheFox> I hope resolution is not that high :p
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[19:20] <brane_> i can always imagemagick it down
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[19:24] <brane_> brane-rpi3-1.jpg and -2.jpg, i resized them to 720px (from 4k, heh)
[19:26] <DanielTheFox> this is present on my RPi 3b+ too
[19:26] <DanielTheFox> it looks like that
[19:27] <brane_> ok, so nothing too obvious
[19:27] <brane_> blasted cheap hardware, hey? :)
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[19:35] <dskull> anyone know how i might upgrade ansible via apt-get.. it says 2.2 is the most recent versioni but i know it's lying
[19:35] <dskull> i want 2.4 at least
[19:35] <dskull> and i dont want to do it via tarball either
[19:36] <brane_> it may be the most recent version available on raspbian
[19:36] <ShorTie> if you want newer then apt will give up, your gonna need to do a custum install
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[19:40] <Tenkawa> pretty easy to do with some of the apt/dpkg package build utilities nowadays too as long as the dependencies dont dramaticly shift'
[19:40] <Tenkawa> however if you do you have a non-standard build
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[19:44] <chris_99> Random question, has anyone ever noticed any interference on i2c, after taking a photo with the pi camera
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[19:45] <Tenkawa> chris_99: havent dont it but first guess would be voltage spike
[19:45] <Tenkawa> er done
[19:46] <chris_99> it's strange, i read a temp sensor every minute, it works fine, when i take a photo then read its seeming to fail strangely, switching the flow to read temp sensor prior to take photo may have fixed it
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[19:46] <k_j> hi
[19:47] <k_j> is there a way to overlay text over the screen without X?
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[19:50] <Tenkawa> define overlay text?
[19:51] <Tenkawa> if you mean output text to console.. easy
[19:51] <Tenkawa> graphicly... not so easily
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[20:31] <zleap> hi all
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[20:32] <Tenkawa> hi
[20:33] <Fulgen> k_j: pygame is pretty easy to use, or Qt with platform linuxfb / eglfs
[20:34] <shiftplusone> If you want to get a little more complicated, you can use dispmanx
[20:35] <chris_99> interesting!
[20:35] <chris_99> never heard of that before
[20:37] <shiftplusone> Some good examples: https://github.com/AndrewFromMelbourne/raspidmx
[20:37] <shiftplusone> And it's done by the firmware, so there's no overhead, no need for X and you can draw over whatever you want.
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[20:38] <zleap> my pi display isn't playing, well i can trigger the menu in the corner that is about it
[20:41] <gordonDrogon> zleap, is it one of the 7" displays?
[20:42] <zleap> yes
[20:42] <zleap> just updated the pi attaced to it
[20:42] <zleap> so running latest raspbian (or should be)
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[20:43] <gordonDrogon> so you get stuff on the display ok?
[20:43] <zleap> yeah
[20:43] <shiftplusone> sounds like it's registering taps, but not the location? The cursor moves to the menu automatically and you can't move it from there, but you can 'click' it?
[20:44] <zleap> shiftplusone: yeah
[20:44] <zleap> but taps only in that corner, it was displaying the messagfe to say i need to change my password as ssh is enabled and i was unable to click on the ok button for that dialogue
[20:45] <shiftplusone> maybe double check the connections are solid and if nothing else works contact the seller, since it sounds faulty?
[20:45] <zleap> ok
[20:45] <zleap> well i have had it a while
[20:45] <zleap> just not used it for a long time, hence the re-install of raspbian
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[20:47] <maszlo> hello channel, Has anyone worked with USB Gadget / Gadget FS? Trying to get mtp setup to have attached usb cable to Pi zero w be mtp to a path. says to be working with https://github.com/viveris/uMTP-Responder but appear to have something off with the single dependency needed :|
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[20:48] <shiftplusone> This guy knows what he's doing - https://github.com/ali1234/pymtpd
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[20:48] <k_j> Tenkawa, graphically
[20:48] <maszlo> seems there were rewrites of this, and just hard to tell where the story is now. sweet, i will give that one a shot
[20:49] <maszlo> shiftplusone: Thanks for the pointer!
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[20:49] <ali1234> pymtpd uses functionfs not gadgetfs
[20:50] <ali1234> you may ask "what's the difference?"
[20:50] <maszlo> i need both sides to see the files at the same time
[20:50] <ali1234> functionfs allows you to do composite devices
[20:50] <maszlo> essentially using this to implement a dashboard into a digital picture frame
[20:51] <ali1234> pymtpd doesn't support that. actually mtp itself doesn't support that
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[20:51] <maszlo> what is meant by composite devices?
[20:51] <ali1234> usb serial, ethernet, and mtp at the same time
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[20:51] <ali1234> for digital picture frame pymtpd will work fine
[20:51] <ali1234> that is really only one way
[20:52] <ali1234> you have a problem when both sides try to modify files
[20:52] <ali1234> keeping them in sync with each other is not really possible with mtp because it is a rather badly designed protocol
[20:53] <ali1234> there's also another problem where the pi's usb driver has a bug that will cause the pc you plug it in to to crash
[20:53] <ali1234> but only during the time between when you turn it on and the functionfs code taking control of the device
[20:53] <maszlo> was thinking about overwriting the same image. i guess depends if the picture frame holds the file or loads it in memory
[20:54] <ali1234> the program which displays pictures should open an inotify watch on the picture directory
[20:54] <ali1234> it will then be notified when the pictures change
[20:54] <ali1234> even if you overwrite in place
[20:54] <ali1234> i recommend writing that program in Qt/QML
[20:56] <maszlo> i was planning on using shell scripts and just setting it on crontab. assuming that the mtp shows as i am expecting from the digital picture frame
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[20:59] <ali1234> there is a systemd service file for it here: https://github.com/ali1234/rpi-ramdisk/tree/master/packages/pymtpd
[20:59] <ali1234> but its set up for my ramdisk stuff so it runs from opt
[20:59] <ali1234> and packages the python dependencies
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[21:14] <waveform> chris_99, on the subject of i2c temp sensors skipping when capturing from the camera module: the camera module is configured via i2c-0
[21:14] <chris_99> ahhhh
[21:14] <chris_99> interesting!
[21:14] <chris_99> i didn't know that
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[21:15] <waveform> every time the pi wants to tell the camera to do something (like re-configuring the line-read, exposure time, etc.) that's all done over i2c-0 - now that's separate to i2c-1 which you're presumably using for your temp sensor...
[21:16] <waveform> ... but I'd hazard a guess that doing stuff on i2c-0 may interfere/delay stuff on i2c-1
[21:17] <chris_99> mm, thanks a lot!
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[21:29] <Apocx_> any recommendations on a library that can detect wake words on the Pi? or anyone know of an open source Alexa variant like Mycroft Pi that does not need to use external servers
[21:30] <Apocx_> seems like pocketsphinx is a common one
[21:31] <shiftplusone> There's Jasper, but I don't think it actually translates text to speech very well.
[21:31] <shiftplusone> *speech to text
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[21:35] <Apocx_> I'll check it out
[21:36] <Apocx_> ideally I'd have some local process running on the pi and/or phones that detects the keyword and then stream the audio to my local server for actual processing via DeepSearch or Kaldi or something
[21:37] <Apocx_> snowboy looks promising
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