#raspberrypi IRC Log

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IRC Log for 2018-12-22

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[2:09] -wolfe.freenode.net- *** Looking up your hostname...
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[2:09] [freenode-connect VERSION]
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[2:09] * Topic is 'Unofficial RaspberryPi IRC channel but "Blessed" by the Foundation as the ONE channel. | Logs: http://srv.datagutt1.com | Rules: https://goo.gl/h5qPhz'
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[4:03] <DanielTheFox> can magnets damage a Raspberry Pi?
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[4:12] <friendofafriend> DanielTheFox: https://www.raspberrypi.org/forums/viewtopic.php?t=169946
[4:13] <DanielTheFox> ok
[4:14] <Khaytsus> DanielTheFox: Sure they can. Some magnets are pretty damn heavy ;)
[4:18] <HighInBC> magnets... how do they work?
[4:18] <DanielTheFox> magic
[4:19] <friendofafriend> I don't wanna talk to a scientist.
[4:20] <HighInBC> most magnets probablywont hurt it
[4:20] <HighInBC> but I could be wrong
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[4:21] * DanielTheFox hands HighInBC a rare earth magnet
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[4:30] <phinxy> arent rare earth metal in fact abundant or are they scarce as the name says?
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[6:00] <DanielTheFox> hmm :3
[6:00] <DanielTheFox> ¦3
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[8:04] <cnnx> the rpi 3b is 6 years old now, any new one comming out?
[8:09] <mlelstv> phinxy, there are called rare because you hardly find them concentrated in one place.
[8:10] <mlelstv> they
[8:19] <binaryhermit> the 3b isn't 6 years old
[8:20] <binaryhermit> the original b came out February 29. 2012
[8:20] <binaryhermit> the 3b, 4 years later to the day, iirc
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[8:29] <cnnx> ok
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[8:54] <Habbie> and the 3+ came out this year
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[10:11] <donnib> Hi
[10:12] <donnib> anybody have experience with PXE and rPI ? i have an image for a system i use (Hass.io) and i want to know if there are a way i can convert that image so i can place it on my synology NAS so it can be booted from the pi ?
[10:12] <donnib> i have read online the rPi can indeed do PXE but i fail to find some good documentation how i make a image i have into a PXE boot
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[10:22] <mfa298> donnib: tthe first bits you need are a dhcp server serving up suitble options and a tftp server to provide the first files (firmware and kernel)
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[10:22] <donnib> mfa298: check
[10:23] <mfa298> there is some documenttion on the rpf site that should get you started
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[10:24] <mfa298> pxe is also only supported on the pi3 (you need to enable it first) nd 3b+ (enabled by defualt)
[10:24] <donnib> i have rpi 3, my biggest wonder is more how i convert a img file into a pxe
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[10:26] <mfa298> for raspbian you would normally use an nfs root. other things might do something else
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[10:27] <mfa298> I've used x86 pxe boot images that just load into ram
[10:27] <donnib> hmm, i wish i could find a guide/tutorial how to take that img file and what to do with it
[10:28] <donnib> I have this image https://github.com/home-assistant/hassos/releases/download/1.13/hassos_rpi3-1.13.img.gz
[10:30] <donnib> it says here https://github.com/home-assistant/hassos what is hass.os that hass.io which is image posted above is using
[10:32] <mfa298> thaat's going to depend a lot on what their OS is, the haas.io folk might be the best people to ask.
[10:33] <mfa298> if it's bsed on raspbian then read through whats on the raspberry pi site. if it's something else then you'll likely have to do most of the working out yourself.
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[10:42] <donnib> yeah, i don't know, i can just see that they state it's made with buildroot which indicates it's custom made
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[10:55] <mfa298> in that case the hass team are your best bet, it might be as simple as extracting the image onto an nfs server and setting up dhcpd,tftpd,nfs
[10:56] <mfa298> or you might have to rebuild vrious bits to make it work
[11:03] <mlelstv> https://www.reddit.com/r/homeassistant/comments/9q5bf9/booting_hassos_from_usb/
[11:05] <mlelstv> has pointers to install hass.io on plain rasbian
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[11:15] <Sander^home> How come my westerndigital elements (with power trough usb), didnt mount. It tried with -t ntfs. But its not working, it got "Microsoft basic data" as fdisk -l type on the partion.
[11:15] <Sander^home> *partistion
[11:17] <Sander^home> disklabel type: gpt
[11:17] <Sander^home> Its a raspberrypi 3
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[11:40] <\\Mr_C\\> sander, whats the power requirements?
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[11:43] <\\Mr_C\\> the usb may not be supplying enough power
[11:43] <gordonDrogon> of-course, knowing the error message from the mount command would save any guessing at this point.
[11:44] <gordonDrogon> "It's not working"... Hmph. Help us to google the error message for you.
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[11:49] <darkling> For mount problems, messages from dmesg are the important parts. The command-line output from a failed mount is usually deeply uninformative.
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[11:57] <BurtyB> the person asking the Q still being in the channel helps too
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[13:00] <mlelstv> details
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[13:08] <cnnx> is a rpi3b ok for an outdoor linux robot in canada?
[13:08] <cnnx> as its main computer
[13:10] <mlelstv> if it's too cold, you can start computing prime numbers
[13:11] <Encrypt> Eh eh
[13:12] <cnnx> mlelstv: who are you right now?
[13:12] <cnnx> j/k
[13:12] <mlelstv> who?
[13:12] <cnnx> you, was trying to be funny
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[13:12] <mlelstv> I just wondered how canada fits into the equation
[13:13] <cnnx> I live in Canada.
[13:13] <mlelstv> how is that different from a linux robot in say republic of congo
[13:13] <mlelstv> ?
[13:13] <cnnx> weather
[13:13] <mlelstv> so not funny
[13:14] <cnnx> your prim enumber comment was funny
[13:14] <cnnx> thought you were making fun of me
[13:14] <mlelstv> if it's too cold at your place, you can start computing primes to heat up the device :)
[13:15] <mlelstv> if you robot is mobile, the batteries might have more of a problem.
[13:16] <cnnx> i'm gonna try to invest in li-ion
[13:16] <cnnx> for weight reduction
[13:16] <cnnx> just like a thin solar panel
[13:16] <cnnx> 4lbs for 100W 12V
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[13:19] <mlelstv> 200Wh or more?
[13:19] <cnnx> 100w
[13:20] <mlelstv> yes, that's power. But how much energy in 4lbs ?
[13:20] <cnnx> P=ExI
[13:20] <cnnx> 100W=12V=Amps
[13:20] <cnnx> 100W=12V x AMPS
[13:20] <mlelstv> the factor time is missing
[13:21] <cnnx> don't need it
[13:21] <mlelstv> so 100W for a millisecond ?
[13:21] <cnnx> I don't know my load yet
[13:21] <cnnx> if my load is 40Whour
[13:21] <cnnx> then I can know
[13:21] <cnnx> depends how much the rpi
[13:21] <cnnx> and motors
[13:21] <cnnx> and electronics use
[13:21] <mlelstv> 4lbs Li-Ion should be in the 200-400Wh range, depending on type.
[13:21] <cnnx> oh
[13:22] <cnnx> can I plug in the rpi in the usb port of this charge controller
[13:22] <cnnx> https://www.amazon.ca/gp/product/B01MU0WMGT/ref=ox_sc_act_title_4?smid=A18M12GR6V2Z8F&psc=1
[13:22] <cnnx> would I need a usb to mini usb cable?
[13:24] <mlelstv> doesn't tell what connector it has, but I would expect you need an adapter cable
[13:24] <mlelstv> but 20A ?
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[13:25] <mlelstv> how large is your panel? :)
[13:26] <cnnx> Product Dimensions: 57.9 x 17.8 x 1 cm ; 816 g
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[13:29] <mlelstv> that's some 10-15W when in direct sunlight.
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[13:35] <morfin> hello
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[13:35] <morfin> Ho do i build gst-mmal on my rpi with Arch?
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[17:23] <njpunkoioi> hello?
[17:23] <njpunkoioi> im a raspberry pi noob and have some questions
[17:25] <ali1234> hi
[17:25] <njpunkoioi> hi
[17:25] <njpunkoioi> can you tell me which would be faster AMD E2 dual core or raspberry pi 3 B+ ?
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[17:26] <ali1234> AMD E2
[17:26] <njpunkoioi> but its only dual core, why would it be faster ?
[17:26] <ali1234> because its not ARM
[17:26] <njpunkoioi> oh ok
[17:27] <njpunkoioi> I need to buy wifi dongle for it then so I can use that.
[17:27] <njpunkoioi> i will use the e2
[17:27] <ali1234> it can also have more than 1GB of shared RAM
[17:28] <njpunkoioi> true
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[17:29] <stiv> faster buss speed. faster disks
[17:30] <njpunkoioi> Yeah
[17:30] <njpunkoioi> Thanks
[17:30] <njpunkoioi> I never used raspberry pi what do you guys do with them
[17:30] <njpunkoioi> I own a raspberry pi zero no wifi, never even booted it before
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[17:30] <njpunkoioi> I want to get a pi 3 and play with it one day
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[17:32] <nils_2> i am using for example pihole, nextcloud, weechat with my raspberry pi3
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[17:33] <ali1234> mainly get frustrated due to missing documentation and the generally poor support for any kind of computer that isn't an x86 PC
[17:33] <njpunkoioi> I dont know any 3 of those softwares
[17:33] <njpunkoioi> what are those softwares
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[17:33] <ali1234> pihole is a network proxy/filter that blocks adverts
[17:34] <ali1234> nextcloud is like dropbox that you run yourself
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[17:34] <njpunkoioi> oh
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[17:34] <njpunkoioi> can you run windows virtual machine on rpi 3
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[17:34] <nils_2> and weechat is an terminal irc client
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[17:34] <ali1234> no. you can run a x86 emulator but it will be stupidly slow
[17:34] <stiv> the pi is a inexpensive platform for messing about with computers (AKA 'education') lots of I/O connectors so it can talk to the outside world.
[17:35] <njpunkoioi> no windows virtual machine ?
[17:35] <ali1234> no
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[17:35] <njpunkoioi> all i own right now is a chromebook, but i got a old E2 amd computer laying around that i got for free recently.
[17:35] <stiv> would you run a windows VM on your cell phone?
[17:35] <njpunkoioi> im a targeted individual and lost everything i own
[17:35] <njpunkoioi> need wifi dongle and sata cables to plug in my SSD's to that E2
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[17:48] <\\Mr_C\\> !seen
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[18:18] <akk> Is there a good table of power use for all the various Pi models? Is an A+ or a 0w a more power efficient choice for something with a pi camera and wi-fi?
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[18:19] <akk> I found one table at raspi.tv/ that suggests the A+ is more efficient, but their table doesn't include wifi.
[18:20] <mfa298> A+ doesn't have wifi on board - Do you mean the 3A+ (They're different things)
[18:20] <akk> I wondered about that too: I didn't think it included wifi but I was finding pages saying it did. Maybe they meant 3A+.
[18:21] <akk> I have a USB wifi dongle I can use, but that might add more than the 0w's onboard wifi.
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[18:22] <akk> And I could order a 3A+ if it's significantly better.
[18:22] <mfa298> probably people getting confused between the A+ and 3B+ (same as they seem to get confused with the various models in the B/B+ range)
[18:23] <mfa298> I suspect the 3A+ is much higher power draw - It's the same SoC as the 3B+ just without the hub chip
[18:23] <akk> Looks like the 3A+ uses quite a bit more than the 0W, so 0W is probably the way to go.
[18:24] <shauno> I don't blame people getting confused to be honest. the naming scheme has been incoherent at best
[18:25] <PhotoJim> agreed, it's very confusing
[18:25] <akk> I'd like to be able to run overnight from a 10aH battery, doing wifi, noir camera, and an IR light.
[18:25] <ali1234> that should work even with a 3A+
[18:25] <mfa298> Zero (non W) and the original A+ are probably similar in power use. So I'd guess it's not much between the ZeroW and A+ with USB wifi. But ZeroW is cheaper/smaller and you still have an accessible USB port
[18:25] <akk> I couldn't do that with a 1b and wifi dongle.
[18:26] <ali1234> the 1b is really really inefficient
[18:26] <akk> Ah, good to know.
[18:26] <mfa298> 3A+ is probably much higher power draw than the original 1B (and 1B+ was better than the 1B)
[18:26] <ali1234> how long is overnight?
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[18:27] <akk> Good question! Varies, maybe 5pm-9am?
[18:28] <mfa298> what sort of 10Ah battery - the time you'll get from a 10Ah power bank will be very different to what you get from a 10Ah SLA
[18:28] <akk> Though I could forgo the wifi when running off batteries, if that would help.
[18:28] <ali1234> there is no point using an A+. the zero is better in every way for this task
[18:28] <akk> This is one of those li-ion batteries with USB ports for charging phones and things.
[18:28] <ali1234> you should expect a power draw around 400mA
[18:28] <akk> And 10aH is just the rated capacity, they may be lying.
[18:29] <PhotoJim> even if they aren't lying, it will vary by power draw and ambient temperature
[18:30] <akk> And probably by things like distance from the wifi router?
[18:30] <mfa298> the voltage of the battery is important too - with a Li-ion battery pack you'll have around 37Wh, with an SLA (12v) you'll have 120Wh
[18:30] <shauno> (or stretching the truth. I have one that claims to be 22aH, but because it has 22aH cells. so 22aH at 3.7v is 16aH at 5V in the best case)
[18:30] <shauno> I'm not sure what's worse. typing aH instead of Ah, or doing so consistently
[18:30] <PhotoJim> akk: and overall traffic on the WiFi band in use. the busier the band, the more retransmitted packets are going to be required.
[18:30] <mfa298> assuming 400mA draw from the Pi you need 2Wh to run it (note the camera will probably increase that a bit more if it's going all the time)
[18:31] <akk> I think the battery may be 12v internally; it has outputs at both 5v and 12v (I was using 12v for the IR light, but I got another light that I think will run at 5v).
[18:31] <ali1234> 400mA includes the camera and a couple of IR LEDs
[18:31] <ali1234> for pi zero
[18:31] <ali1234> the zero on its own will draw like 150mA
[18:32] <akk> Good to know! So this should be doable on batteries, at least if my new IR LEDs are more efficient.
[18:32] <akk> The old one I suspect was drawing a lot of power (and possibly I need that; this is for a night crittercam).
[18:32] <mfa298> akk: it's almost certainly 3.7V nominal if it's Li-ion cells. They'll have some boost circuits for 5 and 12v out.
[18:33] <akk> Interesting, I assumed they used multiple cells and stepped down rather than stepping up.
[18:33] <ali1234> they dont do that because it makes charging much harder
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[18:34] <akk> Because they skip needing cell balancers?
[18:34] <ali1234> yes
[18:34] <akk> Interesting.
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[18:35] <akk> I have lots of 2- and 3-cell lipo batteries and a charger (for RC planes), so I could run off different batteries if this one doesn't work out.
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[18:39] <Encrypt> Hum... Apparently there is an "irc" user on Raspbian
[18:39] <Encrypt> irc:x:39:
[18:39] <Encrypt> Do you know why?
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[18:42] <akk> Username says ircd; there are a few irc daemons in aptitude search but nothing installed by default.
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[18:44] <Encrypt> So, I could totally run weechat under that user
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[18:46] <akk> It's meant for an irc server ,not a client.
[18:46] <akk> I suppose you could run a client like weechat as irc, but why?
[18:47] <akk> You'd have to set up a home directory for it and so forth.
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[18:49] <njpunkoioi> what is raspian OS like ?
[18:49] <njpunkoioi> similar to ubuntu ?
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[18:51] <akk> njpunkoioi: It's a debian derivative, like ubuntu, with a different desktop.
[18:51] <Encrypt> akk, The goal is to run weechat as a relay on my server
[18:51] <Encrypt> Behind NginX
[18:51] <Encrypt> So, yeah, more or less as a daemon
[18:52] <njpunkoioi> oh ok
[18:52] <njpunkoioi> what is noobs ?
[18:52] <njpunkoioi> what is noobs like ?
[18:52] <Encrypt> njpunkoioi, I'd use Raspbian if I were you
[18:53] <njpunkoioi> i dont have a pi et.
[18:53] <njpunkoioi> yet
[18:53] <njpunkoioi> i have a original pi zero with no wifi
[18:53] <njpunkoioi> and a chromebook only
[18:53] <njpunkoioi> i wanna get a rpi 3
[18:53] <njpunkoioi> im very poor, and a targeted individual
[18:53] <njpunkoioi> because of my targeting ive lost everything i owned
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[18:54] <akk> njpunkoioi: I'll second the recommendation to go with straight raspbian, not noobs.
[18:55] <Encrypt> I've seen quite a few persons coming here because they had issues with noobs
[18:55] <Encrypt> Copying a Raspbian image is as simple as "dd if=... of=..."
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[18:55] <Encrypt> And the multiboot thing of noob isn't really an advantage in my opinion
[18:56] <stiv> issues with noobs or issues with being noobs?
[18:57] <Encrypt> Hum... probably the second option x)
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[19:07] <Encrypt> akk, It seems I'd better create a "weechat" user
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[19:14] <akk> Encrypt: That sounds like a better bet.
[19:14] <Encrypt> YEah
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[19:26] <vlt> Hello. On Raspbian, what is the normal (cleanest) way to install a newer version of libgphoto2-6 (Stretch: 2.5.12-1)? To support my camera I need 2.5.17+. (On Ubuntu 18.10, for example, there's 2.5.19, if that helps.)
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[19:30] <Khaytsus> vlt: Your camera? What camera? You actually plug your camera in usb to download images?
[19:30] <Khaytsus> that is so slow and tedious.... use an sdcard reader
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[19:36] <akk> vlt: You need a newer version than in the raspbian repos? You might have to compile it from source.
[19:37] <akk> and Khaytsus, I agree on the SD card, but I have used gphoto2 for other purposes, like controlling a plugged-in camera, making it zoom, take a photo, etc.
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[19:40] <Khaytsus> Alrighty
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[19:58] <vlt> Khaytsus: Yes, I use gphoto2 to control the camera and take photos.
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[20:00] <vlt> It's controlled via wifi by another Raspberry Pi (running an image viewer via nodm) to which I send a preview version of the image.
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[20:01] <vlt> The big CR2 files remain either on the CF card in the camera or a USB drive on the RPi.
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[20:04] <akk> aha, wondered why this dd of raspbian lite was never finishing. Finally thought to check dd, "Buffer I/O error on dev sdb, logical block 194569, lost async page write"
[20:04] * akk wonders if that means this card is permanently dead
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[20:07] <Stromeko> akk: Most likely not, but I would keep an eye on it.
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[20:07] <Khaytsus> Run badblock son it
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[20:21] <akk> Thanks, trying badblocks
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[20:34] <myst0z> help how to setup lightdm to start awesome wm?
[20:34] <myst0z> when i try to login it only bring me backk to login screen
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[20:39] <akk> badblocks /dev/sdb (as root) didn't print anything. Does that tell me anything useful?
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[20:44] <akk> Aha -- tried it in a different adaptor and it works.
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[21:21] <Kehoe> Hello, linux/pi newb here. I set up headless raspbian and had it successfully running transmission-daemon for a few days, but then it turned off. Won't boot back onto network. If I pull the SD card, can I find an error log on it somewhere to tell me what happened? Thank you!
[21:22] <vlt> Kehoe: You could look if /var/log/syslog tells you anything interesting.
[21:26] <ShorTie> you got another linux system ??
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[21:32] <Kehoe> nope, just windows but i have ext2fsd
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[22:12] <Snert> was it wireless or hard wired on the network?
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[22:20] <Kehoe> wireless
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[23:42] <chris_99> is that arm based?
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[23:43] <Khaytsus> iKarith: The next pi needs to come with an 855, 2g of ram, m2 slot, sata port, and cost $25
[23:43] <iKarith> It is! I dunno how much it could be said the Raspberry Pi has helped bring ARM chips to the forefront, but the fact is that the Raspberry Pi 3 model B+ is already a pretty decent light desktop. It's a little tight for RAM, but it works.
[23:43] <Khaytsus> Pi makes a horrid desktop
[23:43] <chris_99> i'm curious how risc/mips chips with do over the next few years
[23:44] <chris_99> *riscv
[23:44] <iKarith> Is anyone still making MIPS?
[23:44] <chris_99> https://www.eetimes.com/document.asp?doc_id=1334087
[23:44] <chris_99> 'MIPS Goes Open Source'
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[23:51] <iKarith> The Snapdragon 8cx is still a mobile part that should really give Intel a run for their money unless they dramatically increase their laptop parts' performance. If the Pi struggles to be anything but the lightest desktop (I have used it as one, and it's certainly not ideal, but it can be used at least), the 8cx should be quite comfortable.
[23:51] <iKarith> And not with like LXDE or XFCE, it should handle Ubuntu bloatified GNOME ;)
[23:52] <ali1234> MIPS is still popular in consumer routers
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[23:52] <iKarith> ah good point about the routers.
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[23:54] <iKarith> The downside to the 8cx is that it's still a SoC. A very advanced one, and great for laptops and tablet-ish devices, but it's still not a desktop ARM processor.
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[23:55] <iKarith> AFAIK, one can't really just go out and buy an ATX form factor board with an ARM chip on it that can compete with even a midrange desktop-class CPU. Yet.
[23:56] <chris_99> you can get arm server boards afaik, i've not looked at them though, and i donn't know what form factor they are
[23:56] <Habbie> iKarith, is that also still not true if you accept that the total performance comes in the shape of 96 cores instead of 8?
[23:56] <iKarith> 96 cores :D :D :D
[23:56] <iKarith> Habbie: what does such a board cost though?
[23:57] <iKarith> chris_99: Oh, the 8cx is described as a 7w SoC BTW. :)
[23:57] <Habbie> iKarith, i don't know! cloudflare posted a thing a few months ago where an ARM board performed 'equivalently' to an Intel board for one of their workloads, at a lower power draw
[23:58] <Habbie> iKarith, which means the ARM board is allowed to cost a bit more even
[23:58] <Habbie> iKarith, but i don't know
[23:58] <iKarith> Habbie: I totally believe it. That's why the future is going ARM.
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