#raspberrypi IRC Log

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IRC Log for 2018-12-26

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[3:07] <orionintheforest> How can I make my Raspberry Pi support ANSI graphics?
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[3:07] <orionintheforest> If there is any way to.
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[3:16] <orionintheforest> Can anyone help me with this? I think it has something to do with fonts maybe? i've tried dypg-reconfigure setup but to no avail.
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[3:26] <r3> I assume you're using raspbian and want to see ANSI inside the "command window" / terminal ? I would try using Couriar New (?) or some similar fixed-width font for that window and see if it works. I don't have a GUI-enabled Pi handy so I'm guessing. If you're ssh into the pi, well then that would be a matter for whatever terminal-emulator (like PuTTY) you're using. I forget my PuTTY
[3:26] <r3> but it might be some codepage you need to set.
[3:28] * r3 was just passing by and saw "ANSI" and stopped, but must move on now - cheers
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[4:10] <kenzo> M E R R Y C H R I S T M A S 🎅
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[4:30] <resi> MERRY GRAVMASS!
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[4:47] <jesse1010> whats the latest raspberry pi without wifi?
[4:48] <friendofafriend> jesse1010: The 3B.
[4:49] <jesse1010> https://www.raspberrypi.org/products/raspberry-pi-3-model-b/
[4:49] <jesse1010> it says wireless lan
[4:49] <immibis> raspberry pi zero?
[4:49] <immibis> (not W)
[4:49] <friendofafriend> Right-o, seems it does. I guess you're all the way back to t he 2B.
[4:50] <immibis> or, a 3B where you made a big hole in the wifi chip using your method of choice
[4:50] <jesse1010> hmm
[4:50] <noahajac> jesse1010: What' wrong with Wi-Fi?
[4:50] <noahajac> And the Zero (non-W) does not, as immibis said.
[4:52] <friendofafriend> You can just add "dtoverlay=pi3-disable-wifi" and "dtoverlay=pi3-disable-bt" in config.txt.
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[5:26] <aro> i was using cron @reboot, but that went away when i went ro
[5:26] <aro> how can i run a command on power on when in read only mode?
[5:26] <Khaytsus> Huh? Why would ro not run cron jobs?
[5:26] <aro> the adafruit scripts removes them
[5:27] <aro> or messes them up
[5:27] <aro> it says so
[5:27] <Khaytsus> /etc/rc.local then I guess Or a systemd unit
[5:28] <aro> i only want it to run once
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[5:29] <Khaytsus> One time, ever?
[5:29] <aro> on boo
[5:29] <aro> r
[5:29] <aro> boot
[5:29] <Khaytsus> /etc/rc.local then I guess Or a systemd unit
[5:29] <aro> does it matter that it is headless
[5:30] <Khaytsus> no
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[5:32] <aro> yeah the crons do get removed
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[6:23] * mattwj2002 plays with his rpi 3b+ again! finally first time in months
[6:26] <mattwj2002> Merry Christmas Everyone!
[6:28] <noahajac> mattwj2002: Not sure if it is for you but for the US at least, you're a day behind
[6:29] <mattwj2002> technically not
[6:29] <mattwj2002> 30 minutes left in US Central Time :)
[6:29] <mattwj2002> that is my location
[6:30] <noahajac> Actually nevermind, I confuse whether EST is ahead or behind the others
[6:30] <noahajac> Sorry.
[6:30] <mattwj2002> not a big deal :)
[6:33] <mattwj2002> noahajac, are you doing anything Raspberry Pi related right now?
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[6:34] <noahajac> mattwj2002: Not at the exact minute but I have a Pi 3B+ running PiHole (no ad-blocking, but Cloudflared DNS and DHCP), an SSH tunnel for RDP and WoL into my PC, and QuasselCore for IRC. Right now I'm adding openHAB to the list of what it's running.
[6:34] <noahajac> My current subproject for it is getting all the Insteon PLM stuff linked right.
[6:34] <mattwj2002> nice
[6:34] <mattwj2002> you are busy with your RPI
[6:35] <noahajac> Oh and a monitor for its UPS
[6:35] <noahajac> Kind of suprised something that little can run all that with using just a bit above a quarter of its RAM
[6:35] <mattwj2002> thank goodness for moore's law
[6:37] <mattwj2002> isn't the 21st century great?
[6:38] <noahajac> yep
[6:39] <immibis> noahajac: 256MB RAM? that's still 32 times the recommendation for windows 95
[6:39] <immibis> thank goodness for the software version of parkinson's law
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[6:41] <mattwj2002> parkinson's law?
[6:41] <mattwj2002> what is that?
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[6:44] <noahajac> mattwj2002: "work expands so as to fill the time available for its completion"
[6:44] <noahajac> Free RAM is wasted RAM
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[6:50] <mattwj2002> got ya
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[7:03] <mlelstv> unfortunately wasted RAM isn't free RAM
[7:03] <immibis> the software version is that software expands so as to fill the hardware available
[7:04] <immibis> turns out it's actually Nathan's first law of software (for a given value of Nathan)
[7:04] <immibis> you know, this one - https://blog.codinghorror.com/software-its-a-gas/
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[7:05] <mattwj2002> thanks for sharing!
[7:06] <mattwj2002> interesting stuff
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[9:30] <sware2> I'm getting the waiting for headers error when trying to upgrade with sudo apt-get upgrade. Does anyone know how to fix this?
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[11:32] <Clouder> anyone tried to configure RPI AP in 5GHz with 40 or 80 MHz bandwidth? for some reason i only can use 20MHz bandwidth
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[11:35] <ShorTie> don't think that is gonna increase thru put, just make it noisier
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[11:35] <Clouder> are you kidding me ShorTie ?
[11:35] <ShorTie> and maybe why you can't
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[11:35] <Clouder> nonsense
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[11:36] <Clouder> there is no 5GHz Wifi ap around me so no noise
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[11:36] <ShorTie> FCC doesn't care
[11:37] <Clouder> i dont think FCC has anything to do with it
[11:38] <Clouder> i tried different reg doms, even then channels are right and not disabled under domreg it still will not work
[11:38] <Clouder> gives me "failed to create interface mon.wlan0: -95 (operation not supported)"
[11:38] <Clouder> not much help on internets
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[11:44] <ShorTie> operation not supported, that doesn't tell all ??
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[11:50] <Clouder> it is supported by hardware
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[12:19] <niekniek> hello all! I'm pretty new to this, but I think I need a private MQTT broker for my things. I have a Google Home and I have a RPI from where I want to control my stuff through an ESP8266 and a CC2531
[12:20] <niekniek> I can use ifttt but I don't want to expose a port on the internet. Home Assistant doesn't run very well on a RPI 1, so I want to some custom scripts, what actually needs to be done is not that heavy.
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[12:22] <niekniek> So I'm thinking I need some account somewhere which can be connected to Google Home and/or IFTTT to put some command in there and then I need to read it with my RPI with some client from that place
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[12:22] <niekniek> Am I thinking the correct way?
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[12:43] <niekniek> adafruit.io?
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[16:03] <noahajac> Well now we know the Pi 3B+'s USB ports can support the weight of a cockatiel
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[16:05] <noahajac> https://i.imgur.com/tUa4Uvq.jpg
[16:06] <kenzo> pretty sure it won't survive the beak
[16:07] <kenzo> my soloman island eclectus female has already destroyed two thick VGA cables
[16:07] <noahajac> Yeah he flew over onto it when I left the room for a sec, he started pecking at the ethernet cable so I took him off
[16:09] <kenzo> parrots see cables, dongles and connectors as their toys
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[16:10] <kenzo> the computer in her room I had to make plastic shrouds around the monitor so she can't get at the back and destroy all the wiring. That project started immediately after she sunk her beak into a mains cable, while it was energized... freakazoid bird
[16:11] <kenzo> noahajac: I bet if you superglue a wood stick on to the top of the monitor it'll perch there and be happy
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[16:13] <noahajac> I was thinking of putting one on the wall right next to my computer. Kind of worried about him crapping on my desk though. Might just put down a paper towel.
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[16:14] <noahajac> His cage is in the other room but when there is no one there he gets loud so I recently started bringing him in here. I tried the arm of a wall lamp but it seems a bit small for him.
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[16:15] <kenzo> newspaper is super absorbant and gets it. the trouble is more with the wall if he bends over sometimes before he goes. I got a fat bird that eats a lot so she has a short frequency, about every 20 mins or so. Setup a fake tree stand at the edge of the table so when she senses it's time she waddles across the desk and goes over there to do it then comes back
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[16:24] <kenzo> noahajac: if your bird is addicted to paper you can use that to get him to shut up for a while, as long as the paper is not coated with wax. I use tissue boxes, anything with cardboard
[16:25] <kenzo> index cards is her favorite... when I give her a corner of one and won't release it she starts behaving like a dog, tugging at it like it's a chew toy
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[16:28] <noahajac> kenzo: Mine doesn't really chew things. I just made a perch out of a rubber mallet that's hanging off the edge of a shelf. Using a thing of sticky notes to make it level, it seems to work.
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[16:30] <kenzo> you're lucky... ive tried different desk/shelf perches she hates them all. mine wants to sit on shoulders or waddle around on desks and wait for you to stop looking at your hands then attacks me while I'm typing or to peck at the keys
[16:31] <noahajac> Yeah mine keeps trying to land on my head if he's in a spot he doesn't like.
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[16:33] <kenzo> yeah your head is the only spot probably where he can turn a full circle without his tail hitting something
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[16:36] <kenzo> noahajac: a pi zero bird cam project sounds in order :-)
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[16:40] <noahajac> I might, I have a bunch of other projects first. And honestly first thing I need for him is a new cage because his current one is falling apart.
[16:41] <kenzo> I need to build a robot that stays on my roof and chaces the pigeons trying to roost in my HVAC unit
[16:41] <noahajac> Heh
[16:42] <kenzo> I'm lucky, got a flat roof, solid color... the trouble is that if you go over the edge it's a 3 story drop on to hard concrete below
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[16:43] <noahajac> Ever thought of putting a garden or something up there?
[16:44] <noahajac> There's also solar but that's expensive
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[16:45] <kenzo> Solar wouldn't require me to redeck the roof to support the weight. I just got regular floor slats for a roof. I'd need to truss across 16 feet to build a usable deck up there to support a roof garden
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[16:47] <kenzo> Altho with solar the lots are so skinny you're lucky to get 10 panels going
[16:47] <kenzo> https://www.google.com/maps/@39.9801894,-75.1231379,3a,75y,96.4h,91.7t/data=!3m6!1e1!3m4!1surEasbP2fsNHQ9l7-cXGLg!2e0!7i13312!8i6656
[16:47] <kenzo> ˆ-- this is what it looks like
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[16:48] <noahajac> Ah
[16:48] <jarod> all those wires in the air... looks so ghetto :)
[16:48] <kenzo> My neighbors did solar next door. They have 11 panels up. I'm guessing they're standard 100watt panels so 1100 watts output
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[16:49] <kenzo> jarod: average house price on that block is $400K USD... not quite ghetto. But travel 1 mile NE from there and it most definitely is
[16:50] <jarod> still looks ghetto :)
[16:50] <kenzo> the neigborhood was built before electricity service was a thing, much less indoor plumbing
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[16:51] <kenzo> that's why all the houses have conduit attached to the front of the house leading to the basement. the wiring was added 30-80 years after construction
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[16:51] <jarod> still... could have fixed :)
[16:52] <kenzo> jarod: $$$ and Philly has a massive # of blocks like this, plus we poor
[16:52] <kenzo> ¯\_(ツ)_/¯
[16:52] <BurtyB> don't worry jarod is paying
[16:53] <jarod> well soon it looks that way yes
[16:53] <jarod> like .NL has unlimited funds :P
[16:53] <noahajac> My house is falling apart so I can't judge anyone. But I think the street view linked looks cozy
[16:54] <kenzo> you learn to ignore the wiring
[16:54] <kenzo> it was much worse when there was telegraph wiring everywhere anyway
[16:55] <jarod> guess the ground is too hard there
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[16:55] <noahajac> Looks like they have quite a bit of vertical separation of block and street utility lines, that might be causing the cluttered look
[16:55] <noahajac> jarod: Underground cabling is a pain
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[16:56] <jarod> cept for the main power lines 300KV, all cables are underground here
[16:57] <kenzo> we put a man on the moon
[16:57] <kenzo> 💥 *boom* ::mic drop::
[16:57] <jarod> with 90% Dutch engineers :)
[16:58] <jarod> Same as your airforce :)
[16:58] <kenzo> Dutch engineers. We build, wired and programmed the AGC. Without it, no moon.
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[16:59] <jarod> without Philips no start :P
[16:59] <kenzo> speaking of... this talk is awesome ↣ https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xx7Lfh5SKUQ
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[17:08] <spackle259> wlan0: Could not connect to kernel driver
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[17:28] <MetalRider> Hi. I want to switch my bike into Xmas tree - several (10-30) LEDs on frame and seatpost, a sound module and Raspberry Pi 2B as a controller (would play Xmas carols from .mid files and blink LEDs). I'm new to electronics but there are some problems to solve:
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[17:28] <MetalRider> 1) If each LED was controlled separately, do I need separate wire or can I use any hack to optimise number of wires? 2) It seems that each LED needs two wires - the power one and the ground one but GPIO has only 8 GND socks
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[17:28] <CoJaBo> MetalRider: you probably want addressible LED strips
[17:30] <akk> MetalRider: APA102C (like Adafruit "Dotstar") strings are easiest to control from a Pi, though WS2812B ("Neopixel") are cheaper.
[17:30] <akk> They're both really bright and would look great on a bike.
[17:31] <TheSecondNik> Looking at http://abyz.me.uk/rpi/pigpio/python.html#notify_open what does "notification handle (>=0)" mean, and how would I use this? Are there any resources on the web on that matter?
[17:32] <gordonDrogon> MetalRider, You only need one Gnd pin for all those LEDs.
[17:32] <gordonDrogon> MetalRider, and while I don't recommend this see: https://unicorn.drogon.net/pi17leds.jpg for an example.
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[17:34] <MetalRider> LED strips seem interesting but not sure about flexibility in mouting it to frame but I will read more about it
[17:34] <akk> If you do use regular LEDs like gordonDrogon's photo, you can reduce the chaos a little by using DIP resistor blocks instead of a zillion individual resistors.
[17:35] <akk> That gives you 8-10 resistors on one chip.
[17:35] <CoJaBo> aren't those usually SIP lol
[17:35] <CoJaBo> MetalRider: If you wanted to, you could get individual adressible LEDs
[17:35] <CoJaBo> The addressible ones are usually RGB too
[17:36] <lopta> I like LEDs, me.
[17:36] <akk> But you still need one GPIO pin per group of LEDs you want to control, so you're limited to the number of output pins on the Pi.
[17:36] <akk> Or else use a multiplexer, but that's much harder than addressable LED strips.
[17:37] <CoJaBo> If you're using discrete LEDs, you're going to need transistors or whatever to drive each set
[17:37] <TheSecondNik> Shift registers.
[17:37] <akk> CoJaBo: resistor blocks can be either SIP or DIP, but you're right, SIP is a perfectly good option.
[17:37] <CoJaBo> TheSecondNik: At that point, why not just use addressible ones?
[17:38] <akk> Addressable strips are WAY easier than shift registers.
[17:38] <TheSecondNik> They are?
[17:38] <CoJaBo> Addressable strips ARE shift registers
[17:38] <CoJaBo> That light up
[17:39] <TheSecondNik> Hopefully the LEDs light up, not the shift registers. :P
[17:39] <akk> well, yeah, but there are libraries for them so you don't have to code it yourself, and the wiring is so much simpler.
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[17:39] <CoJaBo> TheSecondNik: It's the same chip :P
[17:39] <CoJaBo> I made a LET once. Light Emitting Transistor
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[17:40] <MetalRider> but... using a mux still doesn't reduce number of wires? it only reduces number of gpio outputs :)
[17:40] <akk> CoJaBo: Did it also involve some magic smoke?
[17:40] <TheSecondNik> I'm unsure how addressable LEDs work, but I'm having a hard time imagining anything simpler than a shift register
[17:40] <CoJaBo> akk: Yeh, they don't last very long, the magic smoke runs out pretty quick
[17:40] <akk> MetalRider: correct.
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[17:41] <CoJaBo> MetalRider: Addressible strips are 3 wires, and you can daisy-chain individual strips or modules
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[17:41] <CoJaBo> Much, much cleaner
[17:41] <akk> TheSecondNik: Maybe shift registers are super easy to professionals, but it took me ages to get one working, both software and wiring problems.
[17:42] <MetalRider> so there are two solutions: market-ready addressible LED strip or mux + separate LEDs
[17:42] <CoJaBo> TheSecondNik: Imagine a single-pin serial shift register that lights up based on its current state. That's about it :P
[17:42] <akk> Actually I should say to get three working; shift registers don't have a lot of outputs so figuring out how to chain them is part of the problem.
[17:42] <TheSecondNik> AFAIUI, you just need a clock pin and a data pin, where for each pulse on the clock pin, your data pin either remains low or goes high, depending on the data you shift in?
[17:42] <TheSecondNik> Ah, that
[17:42] <TheSecondNik> Many shift registers have a shift out pin, where it overflows
[17:44] <CoJaBo> And that's how the addressible strips are chained together
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[17:44] <TheSecondNik> You may also shift into two registers at a time with one clock line, and avoid chaining altogether
[17:45] <TheSecondNik> Anyway, if that's what addressable strips do, I guess it's not much different from the same setup with a shift register, but the shift register is already built in
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[17:46] <akk> Right. And simple wiring and not needing to write your own bit-banging libraries.
[17:47] <TheSecondNik> I suppose that makes more sense, then
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[17:49] <akk> MetalRider: Another thing you'll need to plan for is that the LEDs will need a separate power supply: if you have a lot of lights, they'll draw too much current to be safe for the Pi's GPIO.
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[17:50] <akk> Actually I'm not sure how you'd do that with individual LEDs, but all the tutorials on addressable light strings will mention that.
[17:50] <CoJaBo> which is another benefit of addressible strips =D
[17:50] <akk> yep!
[17:52] <MetalRider> akk: I would prefer use GPIO for powering but if not possible then I will use separate power supply
[17:53] <TheSecondNik> I am not sure how much current the GPIO can supply, but I doubt it's more than 200 - 300 mA. And you need up to 20 mA for a standard LED
[17:53] <TheSecondNik> So 200 mA would be good for 10 LEDs, 300 mA would be good for 15
[17:53] <CoJaBo> The pins are rated for a max of slightly less than 1 LED
[17:54] <CoJaBo> The addressible strips are often 5V, so you could power the strips and Pi off the same PSU
[17:54] <TheSecondNik> Looks like I was off a bit :P
[17:54] <CoJaBo> You don't want to pull the LED power from the 5V pin tho, run seperate feeds
[17:54] <akk> MetalRider: Here's a discussion of current limits v. powering individual LEDs: https://raspberrypi.stackexchange.com/questions/11763/raspberry-pi-led-current-limit
[17:55] <akk> How many depends on what resistors you use and how bright they are.
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[17:58] <akk> And yes, you can use the same 5v source to power both: split it and send one 5v wire to the addressable strip, the other to the Pi's power input.
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[17:59] <akk> Like, if you use one of those "charge your USB devices" battery: http://shallowsky.com/tmp/batterypower.jpg
[17:59] <lopta> akk: Would you use diodes for that?
[18:00] <akk> lopta: It's probably a good idea but I don't have any in that circuit.
[18:00] <lopta> If you did, what would you use? 1N4001?
[18:00] <akk> The chip there is a level shifter, btw
[18:01] <akk> because the light string is being driven off 5v and the pi's gpio produces 3.3v.
[18:01] <lopta> 3.3V on the Pi side and 5V on the LED side?
[18:01] <BurtyB> not sure why you'd want to use a diodes
[18:01] <lopta> Ah, you answered that before I could finish asking it. :-)
[18:01] <akk> Sometimes light strings will work without the level shifter but they're fiddly, and a level shifter can help with that.
[18:02] <akk> That light is a neopixel which is much more fiddly about its voltage inputs than dotstars.
[18:02] <akk> I found I couldn't get neopixels to work without the level shifter; but once I got them working, I removed the level shifter and they worked fine.
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[18:02] <akk> So maybe I'd been doing something wrong before; I was never sure.
[18:03] <lopta> BurtyB: Perhaps just on the Pi side, though if there's no danger of the Pi receiving power from anything else (e.g. a PC), perhaps there's no point.
[18:03] <akk> Which is why I call them "fiddly", lots of other people seem to have similar experiences.
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[18:16] <luneff> Hey guys! I have audio playback issues with rpi3 and hdmi. Basically, it does work, but the very beginning of the audio file isn't audible :-( I tried playing silence audiotrack in parallel so that amp is always on, but it doesn't seem to help with the plain command line aplay :-(
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[18:17] <bedah> have you tried a different hdmi device?
[18:17] <bedah> <--does not know
[18:18] <akk> luneff: I have the same problem with my linux x86 laptop, and I would love to know why it happens.
[18:18] <TheSecondNik> Re: http://abyz.me.uk/rpi/pigpio/python.html#notify_open I think I need to read /dev/pigpioX where X is whatever notify_begin() returned. Do I read /dev/pigpioX as a regular file? Because I think f = open("/dev/pigpio1", "r") // print(f.read()) freezes the python command line
[18:18] <luneff> bedah, there isn't any choice, it's an industrial hdmi display :-)
[18:18] <akk> luneff: I've wondered if it has something to do with power management in the driver (switching off after a few seconds of silence).
[18:18] <luneff> I think I can try to insert some silence into the sound tracks :-) a little lag isn't too bad
[18:18] <akk> It happens with multiple hdmi devices.
[18:19] <akk> Anyway, I'm pretty sure it's related to linux hdmi or sound drivers, not Pi-specific.
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[18:23] <mijk> hey
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[19:05] <Toerkeium> Guys, how can I add a "virtual" interface with a local IP like 192.168.0.10 associated to eth0? like eth0:1?
[19:06] <Toerkeium> I'm running Linux raspbx 4.14.52-v7+ #1123 SMP
[19:06] <lopta> Tornevall: Do you already have some other IP address on the same interface?
[19:09] <lopta> oops
[19:09] <lopta> That was meant for Toerkeium.
[19:10] <Toerkeium> yes lopta, I have a public one
[19:10] <Toerkeium> and want to setup a private ip
[19:10] <lopta> Are you behind a router?
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[19:11] <Toerkeium> yes
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[19:13] <lopta> Wouldn't the router have your public IP address?
[19:14] <Toerkeium> I need to setup a VLAN private IP address lopta
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[19:24] <lopta> Toerkeium: You could ask in #packetpushers, they might know how that works on a Linux host.
[19:24] <lopta> brb
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[21:04] <Kehoe> Hello. Noob question here. I set up a Pi running transmission. I've got a drive mounted and transmission-daemon working (it is seeding) but it can't write to the drive. What can I do?
[21:04] <Kehoe> Drive is owned by pi:pi, debian-transmission is part of :pi, and the folder permissions are 775
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[21:08] <Khaytsus> Perhaps it wants to write somewhere else, like /var or such
[21:08] <Khaytsus> Is there a transmission channel? Not really relate dto pi at all
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[21:10] * hodapp sees that you can get motion estimation vectors out of picamera during video capture...
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[21:12] <Kehoe> well, I was only asking her because I'm learning linux thru pi. In any case, and as usual, I figured it out after I asked ;)
[21:12] <Kehoe> I had added pi to the transmission group, not the other way around
[21:12] <Kehoe> Thanks for your time!
[21:13] <chris_99> hodapp: cool, is that part of pi camera program itself, or using opencv+optical flow?
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[21:13] <hodapp> chris_99: no OpenCV involved, luckily
[21:13] <chris_99> aha interesting
[21:14] <hodapp> chris_99: as far as I know, this is a byproduct of H264 encoding, which involves motion estimation (as many video codecs do)
[21:14] <chris_99> ahh
[21:14] <chris_99> that's neat
[21:14] <hodapp> raspivid can also expose it (I think)
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[21:15] <hodapp> if the Pi were doing it on the CPU it'd probably be orders of magnitude slower
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[21:20] <TheSecondNik> Indeed, I am using the pi camera for motion vector estimation
[21:20] <TheSecondNik> Works reasonably well
[21:20] <hodapp> TheSecondNik: via picamera? or what?
[21:20] <TheSecondNik> Yes
[21:20] <hodapp> what are you doing with the motion vectors?
[21:20] <TheSecondNik> Works at 24 FPS and enough CPU time left for other stuff on a Pi Zero
[21:20] <TheSecondNik> Tracking the ground velocity of a drone
[21:21] <hodapp> oh nice! I am aiming at something vaguely similar (determining when a rig has stopped moving much)
[21:22] <hodapp> picamera docs say that I can shoot stills at full-res even while recording video, with the caveat that since it has to switch modes it will drop some frames, but that's fine with me as I'm only looking at using video for the motion vectors
[21:22] <TheSecondNik> There is an example code (at least for Python) that allows you to detect gestures in front of the camera, and reports them as up/down/right/left, with minimal modification you can make it return floats
[21:22] <TheSecondNik> I am using both the motion estimation and recording the video at the same time
[21:22] <chris_99> the motion vectors would also be useful for security type stuff too i guess
[21:23] <hodapp> afaik things like motion (the program) can use it
[21:23] <hodapp> since it's waaaay cheaper than doing video processing on the CPU
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[21:24] <TheSecondNik> The motion vector data is returned as a 2D array of tuples where each tuple represents a (quadratic or rectangular, no idea) set of pixels with motion in x and y directions, and a metric of the quality of this estimate
[21:24] <TheSecondNik> Sum of Absolute Differences, that is
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[21:37] <hodapp> TheSecondNik: do you have already an estimate of altitude, such that you can turn vectors in camera space to vectors of real-world distances?
[21:37] <TheSecondNik> I am working on it
[21:38] <TheSecondNik> But I will use a HC-SR04 for that
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[21:39] <TheSecondNik> I am unsure how the two will relate then, but I intend to calibrate it to some proportionality value. I suppose it somehow relates to the sensor array size, but I don't have the time or will to get the theory of this
[21:42] <hodapp> yes, sensor array size & focal length. if you're assuming some things like being basically perpendicular to the ground, then this is just a similar triangles problem, in which two ratios are equal: the ratio of the distance on the sensor to the focal length, and the ratio of the distance on the ground to the distance *to* the ground
[21:42] <hodapp> if you don't have sensor size & focal length, you can do it just by estimating angle of view
[21:44] <TheSecondNik> And what do I do with the angle of view?
[21:45] <TheSecondNik> My intention is to just integrate the motion vectors as I move it over a measured distance of, say, 1 m and use that as a proportionality factor
[21:46] <hodapp> the angle of view relates pixel size to what angle that pixel occupies
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[21:47] <TheSecondNik> Ah
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[21:47] <TheSecondNik> Actually, that sounds like something I might work with
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[21:47] <TheSecondNik> I'm sure there are methods to determine the angular FOV
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[21:48] <hodapp> it's rather easy to estimate
[21:50] <hodapp> if you are sticking near the center of the image too, you can use the approximation that it's pretty linear (in reality it's not, unless you've a fisheye lens) and say that if your video is W pixels wide, your estimated HFOV is H degrees, and your motion vector says you've moved about P pixels to the horizontal, then that is an angle of P * H / W degrees
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[21:51] <hodapp> lopta: yes, for rectilinear it's a bad approximation the wider and wider angle
[21:51] <TheSecondNik> The thing is, I do not need precise velocity estimates. I just need to be able to hold it at a relative constant value, via PID loops
[21:51] <hodapp> yeah, I'm giving you an approximation
[21:52] <hodapp> for precise distance it's another can of worms
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[21:52] <TheSecondNik> I do not have any GPS or other sensors that would give me the absolute position, so I figured I may as well use the velocity estimates just to properly hover or hold a velocity, no need for exact values there
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[21:54] <hodapp> hey! those were prescription!
[21:54] <gordonDrogon> if inertial guidance was good enough to get them to the moon and back ... :-)
[21:56] <TheSecondNik> gordonDrogon: "How about a fourth gimbal for Christmas?"
[21:56] <TheSecondNik> (semi-related but seasonally appropriate)
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[23:35] <chris_99> apparently the banana pi folks are going to be releasing a 24 core server/board
[23:37] <chris_99> http://forum.banana-pi.org/t/check-it-out-banana-pi-24-core-arm-server/7530
[23:37] <lopta> That's a lot of banana.
[23:38] <chris_99> heh
[23:40] <Encrypt> Raspberry Pi forever <3
[23:41] <gordonDrogon> I understand the current Pi 3 can run into memory contention issues with just the 4 cores - I suspect that anything more just isn't going to scale well unless they use a radically different memory system. this is just rubbish.
[23:42] <lopta> NUMA?
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[23:44] <Khaytsus> NUMA NUMA NUMA
[23:45] <CoJaBo> NUMA NUMA IÉI
[23:45] <chris_99> https://www.cnx-software.com/2017/03/15/socionext-sc2a11-low-power-server-processor-comes-with-24-cortex-a53-cores-scales-up-to-1536-cores-via-pcie/ there's guesses it could be that chip
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[23:54] <Khaytsus> CoJaBo: every time someone says numa I think of that poor fat bastard singing on his webcam
[23:54] <gordonDrogon> Khaytsus, family friendly. read the rules.
[23:54] <hodapp> would you say that it's a..... BUNCH of cores?
[23:54] * hodapp waits for crowd to laugh
[23:54] * Khaytsus throws an apple core at hodapp
[23:54] <hodapp> owwww
[23:55] <Khaytsus> gordonDrogon: i didn't even mention M$ or W*ndows this time :/
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