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IRC Log for 2019-01-18

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[0:02] <\\Mr_C\\> for the terminal?
[0:04] <BurtyB> mophie, with a compute module iirc
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[0:05] <mophie> BurtyB: thanks, I just now found a thread where someone came to the same conclusion :-(
[0:06] <mophie> \\Mr_C\\: not for getty, rather one UART talking to a GPS module and the other talking to a more custom thing
[0:08] <mophie> This is for a mobile, battery-powered application, so I'm avoiding USB in both cases because (A) I'm trying to reduce power consumption and (B) I, uh, already have 4 other USB things and don't want to add a hub.
[0:08] <mophie> Yes, I know, (A) and (B) are pretty much in direct contradiction with each other but oh well haha.
[0:08] <BurtyB> you can get i2c/spi to uart ic
[0:09] <mophie> ahh, yeah that might be the way to go
[0:11] <mophie> Oh, I also have the Sensor HAT on there so I need to make sure at least if I use i2c that I don't interfere with that.
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[0:11] <mophie> I've got this thing all decked out! And I'm not a hardware person but I'm brave.
[0:12] <mophie> Sorry if your heads just exploded haha.
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[0:18] <mophie> Oops, "Sense HAT", not "Sensor HAT"
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[0:25] <mauz555> hello, I'm trying to run a chromium fullscreen from a X session, I can't get the view to be fullscreen
[0:25] <mauz555> Xserver display a window with small margins on top and left, any idea ?
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[0:54] <nagchampa> i've been looking for a list of software that's included in the "Raspbian Stretch with desktop and recommended software" download
[0:54] <nagchampa> anyone know where that might be?
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[1:00] <akk> mauz555: Tried F11 maybe? I can't try it here; chromium stopped working for me, "No usable sandbox!" But F11 is what does fullscreen in firefox.
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[1:14] <nagchampa> nevermind it looks like the software differences are listed in the release notes
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[1:40] <mawk> is the rpi ready for linux 5.0 yet ?
[1:40] <mawk> I compiled it and it mostly seems to work excepted for the wifi chip
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[1:40] <mawk> it's complaining about the absence of the CLM blobs (for regulatory stuff)
[1:41] <mawk> so the wifi chip won't associate to my AP
[1:41] <mawk> I found a set of patches from the chip manufacturer, I guess you guys already applied a part of them ? how should I do this
[1:41] <Snert_> have you booted from a stock image and seen the wireless work?
[1:42] <Snert_> good and a bad side by side can be pretty telling.
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[1:51] <mawk> yes Snert_
[1:51] <mawk> before upgrading to 5.0 wireless was fine
[1:52] <mawk> I downloaded the officiel cypress firmware package and it seems to accept the firmwares, the patches would have been already applied in the rpi linux repo
[1:52] <mawk> now it's just complaining about not being able to find regulatory.db
[1:53] <mawk> it says "[ 22.691193] platform regulatory.0: Direct firmware load for regulatory.db failed with error -2"
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[1:55] <mawk> crda says "Failed to set regulatory domain: -7" when I try to set it to FR
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[1:59] <mawk> I can scan for APs but not connect
[1:59] <mawk> it says "<3>CTRL-EVENT-ASSOC-REJECT bssid=00:00:00:00:00:00 status_code=16"
[1:59] <Snert_> have you backed down to open wireless instead of any password protection.
[1:59] <mawk> ok seems like a very shitty coincidence
[2:00] <mawk> my other devices can't connect to the AP either
[2:00] <mawk> so the rpi is very probably fine
[2:00] <mawk> strange that it happens at the very same time I mess with wifi firmware
[2:00] <mawk> a god is playing with my nerves
[2:00] <Snert_> sure sounds like something in the access point setup
[2:00] <Snert_> on the ap side I mean.
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[2:25] <mophie> Remember, Linux 5.0 is just a renamed 4.21. Linus himself said there's nothing different, it was merely and arbitrarily "time" to go to 5.x, and 4.21 was the unlucky (or lucky) version to be promoted.
[2:26] <mophie> In other words... the changes from 4.20 --> 5.0 are on par with 4.19 --> 4.20.
[2:30] <d0rm0us3> If true then the iso's would be same exact size, and sha256sums would be identical yes?
[2:31] <d0rm0us3> nm...
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[2:38] <mophie> iso's???
[2:38] <mophie> that joke is over my head I guess
[2:39] <CoJaBo> If the version number is different, obviously at least the hash is gonna be different too lol
[2:39] <mophie> CoJaBo: it was either a joke or some mild trolling, at least I'm hoping it was one of the two
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[3:09] <pi0> trying to figure out how to create a green screen photo booth
[3:09] <pi0> any github or suggestions
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[3:15] <stivs> git something green and some 2x4s
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[3:49] <pi0> 2x4's?
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[3:53] <stiv> pieces of wood 2"x4" x 6-8ft long. used for constructing booths. for background removal, something like imagemagick would work
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[4:26] <graud> hi all, I am doing a raspbian lite headless install. I have the blank `ssh` file in /boot, but my pi shows "My IP address is `<ipv6 address>`. My router shows it has an ipv4 address. But port 22 is refused
[4:26] <graud> Any ideas?
[4:30] <friendofafriend> Are you on a Linux system, graud?
[4:30] <graud> My laptop is macOS
[4:31] <larsks> graud: if your pi is headless, how are you seeing the "my ip address is..." line?
[4:31] <graud> i did plug it into hdmi. I just didn't want to go through the install with a keyboard and mouse
[4:32] <graud> so i guess it isn't truly headless
[4:32] <friendofafriend> As root, you can echo "net.ipv6.conf.all.disable_ipv6 = 1" >> /etc/sysctl.conf ; sysctl -p
[4:32] <larsks> I was going to say if you have a screen, you could attach a keyboard and see if you can figure out why it's not working.
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[4:33] <graud> friendofafriend: on my mac? When I mount the sd card?
[4:33] <larsks> I think he means by logging into the pi.
[4:34] <friendofafriend> graud: It would be easier, probably to just add ipv6.disable=1 to /boot/cmdline.txt
[4:34] <larsks> But I'm not sure that you need to disable ipv6. I would be surprised if that is the problem.
[4:34] <friendofafriend> It's in the same place you put that empty file named "ssh".
[4:34] <larsks> But who knows, I've been surprised before.
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[4:40] <graud> That gives the pi an ipv4 address! Now I am getting authentication failures...
[4:40] <larsks> I am surprised!
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[4:40] <larsks> If it's a fresh raspbian install you should be able to connect as user "pi" with password "raspberry".
[4:41] <graud> ssh -o PreferredAuthentications=password -o PubkeyAuthentication=no pi@192.....
[4:41] <graud> something up with my ssh config I gues.s..
[4:41] <graud> It is fresh
[4:42] <graud> Thanks!
[4:42] <moonstroller25> Hi.. Where are some good directions to set static ip address for etho for cable connection?
[4:42] <friendofafriend> Very welcome, graud.
[4:42] <friendofafriend> moonstroller25: The best way is to give the Raspberry Pi a static lease in your DHCP server.
[4:42] <larsks> moonstroller25: you can do this: https://www.raspberrypi.org/learning/networking-lessons/rpi-static-ip-address/
[4:43] <moonstroller25> Thanks. I'll take a look.
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[5:12] <moonstroller25> If I don't change the dhcpcd.conf file, it comes up with the ip address 169.254.18.229
[5:12] <moonstroller25> . Where does it get this ip address?
[5:13] <moonstroller25> Is it generated or fixed by some file?
[5:13] <friendofafriend> It's called an APIPA address.
[5:13] <moonstroller25> I'm sorry. I'm connecting two pi's together via the cable.
[5:14] <friendofafriend> It's for when a DHCP client can't get an IP from a DHCP server, sort of a placeholder.
[5:14] <moonstroller25> Can I alter it?
[5:14] <friendofafriend> You can set the address to static.
[5:15] <moonstroller25> I tried using the dhcpcd.conf file.
[5:16] <friendofafriend> moonstroller25: That is to say, you edited the dhcpcd.conf file and specified an interface, and then a series of "static" options, like "static ip_address=192.168.0.10/24" ?
[5:17] <moonstroller25> Yes... using directions at: https://www.raspberrypi.org/learning/networking-lessons/rpi-static-ip-address/
[5:17] <moonstroller25> I gave it the address 192.168.0.2
[5:17] <moonstroller25> The default address in the directions.
[5:18] <moonstroller25> My router is 192.168.0.1
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[5:19] <moonstroller25> If I could edit the APIPA address in a file I'd be good to go.
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[5:23] <friendofafriend> moonstroller25: Can you paste your /etc/dhcpcd.conf file to a paste site like http://paste.debian.net ?
[5:23] <moonstroller25> Sure.
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[5:25] <moonstroller25> Ok... pasted file......
[5:27] <friendofafriend> moonstroller25: And you'll want to provide the link.
[5:27] <moonstroller25> Working on that. :)
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[5:35] <moonstroller25> Ok.... posted file as mrmoon
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[5:36] <moonstroller25> Sorry.... Link is: paste.debian.net/1061180
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[5:42] <moonstroller25> It would still be nice to know how a pi generates it's private address in order to couple with another pi via a cable.
[5:42] <moonstroller25> I guess I could use nmap but that could take a while. :)
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[5:56] <moonstroller25> Success.... tcpdump saves the day just run tcpdump on one computer and disconnect then connect the cable, while running tcpdump on one computer. You can get the headless pi's address that way.
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[6:19] <friendofafriend> Glad to hear it worked out for you, moonstroller25. Way to go!
[6:20] <moonstroller25> Still, I need to know the enter workings of the pi and how it allocates IP addreses... still looking.
[6:20] <friendofafriend> How it allocates IPs, you're talking about the APIPA address you're getting? Yes?
[6:22] <friendofafriend> An APIPA address is just an address given to clients when getting a DHCP address from a DHCP server has not worked. It's just an address in the 169.254.0.0/16 netblock.
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[6:28] <friendofafriend> moonstroller25: And I'm still interested in what you actually have in "/etc/dhcpcd.conf".
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[6:34] <moonstroller25> friendofafriend goto paste.debian.net/1061180
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[6:35] <moonstroller25> I have the default dhcpcd.conf file.
[6:35] <friendofafriend> So, that's your ifconfig.
[6:35] <friendofafriend> In dhcpcd.conf, you're going to see some stuff commented out.
[6:36] <moonstroller25> Yes I saw that.
[6:36] <friendofafriend> You'll see where it says "Example static IP configuration". That's you.
[6:36] <moonstroller25> Let's say I grab a pi and plug into my main PI with a cable.... it gets allocated an address that I have to discover some how.
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[6:37] <friendofafriend> That's too much work. You seem busy with, y'know, moon stuff.
[6:38] <moonstroller25> Ok so you suggest just setting the address?
[6:38] <friendofafriend> If you remove the "#" at the start of line 41, 42, and 44 in /etc/dhcpcd.conf, that should set your IP address to 192.168.0.10 and your gateway to 192.168.0.1.
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[6:40] <moonstroller25> I'm following you....
[6:40] <friendofafriend> And once you edited that file, you'd just restart dhcpcd with a command like "sudo service dhcpcd restart".
[6:40] <moonstroller25> k
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[6:42] <friendofafriend> Now when you check the IP address of your eth0 interface, it should be 192.168.0.10.
[6:44] <moonstroller25> That is good if I already know the address of the headless pi. I can access it and using nano edit the dhcpcd.conf file then reboot it.
[6:45] <friendofafriend> Yes, or you could set the headless Pi to have a static IP address.
[6:46] <moonstroller25> I want to plug in a randome pi to a cable connected to my master pi. "the hard way" I can use tcpdump to discover the ip address assigned via the private network (hard work -yes) but sometimes I have to do that.
[6:46] <moonstroller25> I mean I just figured out how to discover the address.
[6:46] <friendofafriend> Sure, but you could also dictate to that Pi what its IP address will be using dhcpd.
[6:47] <moonstroller25> If I'm setting up some kind of a net work it would be practical to use the dhcpcd.conf method.
[6:47] <friendofafriend> That is to say, running a DHCP server on one of the Raspberry Pis.
[6:47] <friendofafriend> Even a network of two is a network.
[6:47] <moonstroller25> yes.
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[6:48] <friendofafriend> Lots of fun, these Raspberry Pi machines.
[6:48] <moonstroller25> Is there a way to monitor the application of IP addresses on a network other than a PG like Tcpdump?
[6:48] <moonstroller25> Simple networks.
[6:49] <moonstroller25> Just two pi's. Yes. they are a lot of fun.
[6:50] <moonstroller25> by unplugging and plugging back in the cable, this is what I find with tcpdump: 23:54:35.723892 IP VidCam.local.mdns > 224.0.0.251.mdns: 0*- [0q] 4/0/0 (Cache flush) PTR VidCam.local., (Cache flush) A 169.254.18.229
[6:50] <moonstroller25> the address of the headless pi is: 169.254.18.229
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[6:52] <EdFletcherT137> moonstroller25: the 169.254.0.0/16 range is reserved for link-local addresses, e.g. the address used when no actual network address is available: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Link-local_address
[6:52] <moonstroller25> Late at night here in USA EST. 00:52
[6:53] <friendofafriend> Sure, that's the Raspberry Pi hour.
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[7:01] <moonstroller25> What do you like to do with the Pi's?
[7:03] <EdFletcherT137> I use mine to collect and ferry sensor data from some particulate matter air quality sensors
[7:03] <moonstroller25> Sampling air.
[7:03] <moonstroller25> What do you do with the data?
[7:05] <friendofafriend> It makes him breathe easier.
[7:06] <moonstroller25> Him?
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[7:07] <moonstroller25> Perhaps you could help me with something. I want to change routers on a headless pi so I can update the headless pi via wifi.
[7:08] <EdFletcherT137> moonstroller25: it's mostly just informational - I live in an area prone to wild fires and the resulting air quality degradation that comes with - but also have asthma so it is of a slight health concern too!
[7:08] <EdFletcherT137> moonstroller25: I also have a couple Pi ZW's in our garden monitoring lots of things (soil moisture & temperature, ambient light, humidity, air temp, bar. pressure, VoC air quality)
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[7:09] <moonstroller25> I hope you were not a victim of the california fires. :(
[7:09] <EdFletcherT137> moonstroller25: haven't *quite* yet figured out how to synthesize all that garden data into high-level learnings, but that's next (deep learning ftw! or so they tell me :)
[7:09] <moonstroller25> that all sounds very interesting. I'm working on creating a few pi's to be chatbots. Just learning now.
[7:09] <EdFletcherT137> moonstroller25: not a victim very thankfully, but yes I live in that area. they were literally all around us.
[7:10] <EdFletcherT137> moonstroller25: I absolutely love the Pi. I've been in computing for 20+ years and it is without doubt my favorite single compute platform ever.
[7:10] <moonstroller25> Is the air as bad as they imply?
[7:10] <EdFletcherT137> moonstroller25: during the fires, yes. it was the worst in the world during the Camp Fire.
[7:10] <moonstroller25> Terrible.
[7:10] <EdFletcherT137> moonstroller25: Beijing ain't got nothin' on us :)
[7:10] <EdFletcherT137> moonstroller25: yeah, it was
[7:11] <moonstroller25> I started computing in 78 mostly bare metal. Interfacing things to computers.
[7:11] <moonstroller25> I'm pretty burnt out now.
[7:11] <EdFletcherT137> moonstroller25: this is the sensor I use, it's very neat and extremely easy to integrate (I2C & SPI, woo!) https://www.sensirion.com/en/environmental-sensors/particulate-matter-sensors-pm25/
[7:11] <EdFletcherT137> moonstroller25: I was burnt out for a very long time. then I stopped drinking and found the fun again.
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[7:12] <EdFletcherT137> (don't mean to be a bummer. point is, the Pi is a wonderful hobby and it helped me find my passion again! thank you little computer)
[7:12] <moonstroller25> Yes..... drinking is not a problemf or me... I was hit by a mortar round in Vietnam.... Built in China, delivered courtesy of the people of north Vietnam.
[7:13] <moonstroller25> constand pain.. low level but always there.
[7:13] <EdFletcherT137> moonstroller25: sorry to hear it. we all have our challenges! the key is to find ways to face them and keep moving forward. makes the day easier.
[7:13] <moonstroller25> yes, the Raspberry pi has sprung a new life around me. :)
[7:13] <EdFletcherT137> love to hear it! /fistbump
[7:13] <moonstroller25> <>
[7:14] <moonstroller25> I'm really into communication. I belive a free style creative network can be created with small computers that do most of the work around a home and yard.
[7:15] <moonstroller25> It can be accomplished by restyling the home and yard more than complicated programming.
[7:15] <moonstroller25> Just simple machines doing a lot of work.
[7:15] <EdFletcherT137> our little helpers! totally
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[7:16] <moonstroller25> I'm in North Georgia but raised in Florida. I started with computers in college in 1978. I've been imprisioned by technology ever since.
[7:17] <EdFletcherT137> my next big goal would be to take a step into the mechanical realm: find some solenoids, motors, servos etc. to let my Pis manipulate the physical world
[7:17] <moonstroller25> cool. We should stay in touch. rexrino@moonstroller.com Facebook John Ray.
[7:18] <moonstroller25> I'm replacing my garage door componetes with a Pi.... I want to use the Headlights to deliver a signal to a photo detector and open the doors.
[7:18] <moonstroller25> Alsom replace my thermostats.
[7:19] <moonstroller25> My son in Orlando has replaced a lot of stuff with wifi tech.
[7:20] <moonstroller25> Time to get back to work........ Later.
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[8:28] <Nothing_> any experiences or interesting use cases of berryboot ?
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[9:20] <kivutar> the last time I tried it, they were using their own kernel
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[9:32] <nojimon> hi everyone
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[9:34] <nojimon> i really need some help-can someone please past me a link to a guide wiki or other that will teach me to alter the retropi /boot/config.txt file so that i can make my pi3b output signal to hdmi resolution=1360x768
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[9:35] <nojimon> its been a week now and i cant get my pi to display anything but a blackscreen unless i alter config file to enable hdmi safe mode
[9:35] <nojimon> (pi3B
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[9:36] <nojimon> i have a samsung plasma (oldish now) 55" PS50C451
[9:37] <nojimon> SORRY I MADE A MISTAKE MY SCREEN IS DISPLAYING 1024X768 @ 75hz
[9:39] <nojimon> and if it matters it has this thing called anynet+ which i can turn on or off (neither seems to make a diff-still no picture for the pi3B)
[9:40] <nojimon> verified image and very much bootable if hdmi safemode is uncommented
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[9:52] <nojimon> anyone awake atm
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[9:55] <Jck_true> nojimon: https://www.raspberrypi.org/documentation/configuration/config-txt/video.md ? As in that?
[9:55] <Jck_true> HDMI safe is equivalent to those settings. Then you can try changing one by one
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[9:58] <Jck_true> nojimon: Replace the hdmi_safe that you know works with the above snippet. Then slowly try and remove things until you perhaps find whatever your TV has issues with (sound/resolution/CEC etc)
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[10:00] <nojimon> rofl i was literally just reading this page https://imgur.com/a/MztERqS
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[10:00] <nojimon> thanks for the link mate
[10:01] <nojimon> i do appreciate it
[10:03] <nojimon> are there any limitations imposed by permanently enabling hdmi_safe=1 ; im so tired of trying different combos for such a long time
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[10:15] <Jck_true> nojimon: No HDMI sound. Low resolution. No CEC commands. If you can live without that depends on your usecase
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[11:37] <guido_rokepo> Hi, it's not exactly what you asked, but I added /opt/vc/bin/tvservice -e "DMT 39" to /etc/rc.local to obtain what you need
[11:37] <guido_rokepo> on https://elinux.org/RPi_Configuration you can find all modes available
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[12:28] <\\Mr_C\\> any news on when the next software releases will be?
[12:28] <\\Mr_C\\> thought they did them once a month or something
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[12:42] <ShorTie> like what are you looking for ??
[12:42] <ShorTie> no set time frame that i know of
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[12:51] <\\Mr_C\\> okay
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[12:52] <mrec> hmm is spi on the raspberry pi in full speed (>100mhz) reliable?
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[13:39] <Akel> hi
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[15:55] <non> not being funny here but raspian does have a gui right cuz im stuck in bash even when i enter the default pi raspberry
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[15:58] <non> lsccd
[15:59] <Khaytsus> non: Did you install raspbian lite?
[15:59] <non> i really hope not how do i check uname -a
[15:59] <Khaytsus> Look at the image you put on your sdcard?
[15:59] <Khaytsus> it'd be right in the name
[16:00] <Khaytsus> https://www.raspberrypi.org/downloads/raspbian/
[16:00] <Khaytsus> On that page it says "with desktop, with desktop, minimal image"
[16:02] <non> o bloody hell i did lmao
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[16:03] <non> o well at least i can get it to boot perfectly
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[16:03] <Khaytsus> I don't use anythin but light but that's just my uses ;)
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[16:06] <non> what do you do with your pi ive only got one thing lined up so far would love some ideas
[16:09] <Jck_true> non: Home server, Electronics projects, Retro gaming, media center
[16:12] <non> Jck_true, ive always wondered why anyone would wna make a homeserver what is the objective there the payoff or the motivation
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[16:13] <non> i am not fully versed niaive
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[16:13] <Jck_true> non: For learning. And for hosting stuff in house
[16:13] <non> okay
[16:13] <Jck_true> I run Gogs (Which is basically Github) you can run yourself)
[16:14] <non> what kind of learning are you hacking your network or learning to improve security or something
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[16:15] <non> when you say hosting you mean sharing yeah
[16:15] <Jck_true> Configuring stuff - etc
[16:15] <non> got ya so learning about networking
[16:16] <non> are you a programmer
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[16:17] <Jck_true> Not just networking. Last weekend I set up continous integration - So every code change is automatically compiled, tested, etc etc
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[16:18] <Jck_true> I study to be an electronic engineer. Starting my bachelor next monday
[16:18] <non> im going to have to google that but sounds cool if its what im guessing
[16:18] <non> nice i wish u erery success
[16:18] <non> v
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[16:23] <Khaytsus> non: home automation, ip camera, ham radio controller, gps tracker, ham radi oother thing.. none of them are a gui
[16:23] <Khaytsus> I have a desktop for gui stuff....
[16:24] <non> sweet thanks
[16:25] <non> my first thing was a retropi
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[16:25] <Khaytsus> Cute, but I'd just run that on the desktop
[16:25] <non> and it was a mission to get the pi3b to show on my tv omg so so so anoying
[16:25] <non> me to
[16:26] <non> but i needed a project and im a noob
[16:27] <non> i want to build a password cracker with kali or a script that can be done right
[16:27] <Khaytsus> that's not a job fo ra pi
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[16:28] <Khaytsus> That needs lot of resources to run with any speed
[16:28] <non> yeah i just thort of that re graphics cards rofl
[16:28] <non> big graphics cards
[16:28] <non> lmao
[16:28] <non> oopa
[16:28] <Khaytsus> I've never used of using gpu for passwords, but I don't keep up with that sort of nonsense
[16:29] <non> im no pro i just read stuff
[16:29] <Khaytsus> Nobody who uses kali is a pro, it's a distro for pen test wannaes
[16:29] <Khaytsus> wannabes
[16:29] <non> lol
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[16:38] <non> lols so what do pros use programs that they write themselfs from scratch
[16:39] <non> what os do you use
[16:39] <non> for your server and for your desktop
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[17:33] <BCMM> non: there's a big difference between writing everything from scratch and knowing how to type "apt install"
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[17:38] <Tenkawa> Anyone using the PiUART and can give any commentary on it vs the cable to pin approach?
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[17:39] <Tenkawa> it looks really useful (will have one tonight however wanted to know if there were any gotchas)
[17:42] <swift110> hey all
[17:42] <Tenkawa> hi
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[17:46] <Tenkawa> I'll bbl.. time for lunch
[17:49] <swift110> oh ok Tenkawa
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[18:18] <tjohin> for anyone starting on the pi I serfor anyone starting on the Pi I seriously recomend taking a look at Berryboot. It's great for testing different systems and for backing up configurations.
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[20:21] <Encrypt> Hello everyone!
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[20:21] <Encrypt> I've just received my TV Hat for the RPi
[20:22] <Encrypt> Do you know whether the metal plug at the end was supposed to be included?
[20:22] <Encrypt> Hum... apparently yes
[20:23] <Encrypt> (T.T)
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[20:40] <swift110> hey Encrypt
[20:40] <Encrypt> Hi swift110 :)
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[20:41] <Encrypt> I'm so sad :(
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[21:20] <Elisah> hi everybody, I have tried to set up samba on my debian pc and am now trying to access a share from windows using net use m: \\<ip>\<sharename> /user:<linuxuser> and then typing the password, but I keep getting system error 5: access denied... any idea what I am doing wrong? thanks!
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[21:22] <Tenkawa> Elisah: its probably thinking your domain\user is wrong
[21:22] <friendofafriend> Elisah: What does this have to do with the Raspberry Pi?
[21:22] <Tenkawa> domain/workgroup
[21:22] <Tenkawa> although #samba might be better place to ask
[21:23] <Elisah> Tenkawa: in /etc/samba/smb.conf I named the workgroup WORKGROUP, I guessed this was ok... how do I fix it? I've asked it in #samba as well
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[21:23] <Elisah> friendofafriend: I once set it up on a Raspberry Pi (also debian) where it worked, now on my PC it doesn't, that's why I returned here
[21:25] <Tenkawa> raspbian != debian
[21:26] <Tenkawa> it is a modified distribution
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[21:26] <Elisah> I know that, but nearly 95% of the configuration that worked on my Raspberry Pi(s) could be copied and reused on my Debian machines
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[21:26] <Tenkawa> i think they are all close enough but I'm just saying you have to be careful
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[21:27] <Elisah> thanks for the heads pu
[21:27] <Elisah> *up
[21:27] <Tenkawa> making that statement in certain channels ...
[21:27] <Tenkawa> np
[21:28] <Tenkawa> I just want my new toy for my pi
[21:28] <Tenkawa> before our blizzard gets here
[21:28] <Elisah> new toy? now I'm curious :)
[21:28] <Tenkawa> new console board.. PiUart
[21:29] <Tenkawa> thats what I'm going to use it for anyway
[21:29] <Tenkawa> my cable broke
[21:29] <Tenkawa> and this looks like a much better solution for me anyway
[21:30] <Elisah> nice... I'm still working out the schematics for my mini Zero Pi cluster
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[21:30] <Tenkawa> oh
[21:30] <Tenkawa> you need to look at this
[21:30] <Tenkawa> I have one of these
[21:31] <Tenkawa> pimoroni cluster hat
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[21:33] <Elisah> I just Googled it, nice! but for me it's more of an exercise in electronics (just started) as well as a first dabble in clustering
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[21:33] <Tenkawa> ahhh..
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[21:33] <Elisah> step 1: blink LED, step 2: cluster, step 3: rule world, that sort of thing
[21:33] <Tenkawa> I've spent almost 40 years in electronics
[21:34] <hodapp> step 4: ????, step 5: post to Slashdot about your Beowulf cluster
[21:34] <Elisah> something like that hodapp lol
[21:34] <tjohin> PiUART for me ssh still rules
[21:34] <hodapp> step 6: spend the next 5 days lecturing people on what 'Beowulf cluster' means and why it was significant in the '90s
[21:34] <Tenkawa> haahaa
[21:35] <Tenkawa> tjohin: I still connect in too many areas where the network is isolated
[21:35] <Elisah> I'm a software developer turned sysadmin, started out with arduinos etc a year ago but want to learn the basics of electronics as well
[21:35] * Tenkawa still remembers when Slashdot started
[21:35] <tjohin> serial connection of course is a nice addon
[21:35] <Elisah> in Soviet Russia, Slashdot remembers YOU!
[21:36] <tjohin> console is great no matter how you get it
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[21:36] <friendofafriend> "Natalie Portman, naked and petrified."
[21:36] <Tenkawa> I was doing X.25 back in the day
[21:37] <Elisah> anyway, it looks like there's not much action in #samba... I'm going back to trial and much, much error...
[21:37] <Elisah> thanks for the advice Tenkawa!
[21:37] <Tenkawa> Elisah: read logs
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[21:37] <Tenkawa> doh i was going to tell him to increase verbosity
[21:38] <tjohin> lol i was about to say.. cat /var/log/syslog | grep ... is your friend
[21:39] <Tenkawa> ugggh ... our low is suppose to be -7 F here tomorrow with heavy snow
[21:39] <Tenkawa> oh how fun
[21:40] <hodapp> where's here?
[21:40] <Tenkawa> midwest us
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[21:41] <hodapp> oh, I'm in Cincinnati
[21:41] <hodapp> just came from NYC
[21:41] <Tenkawa> hodapp: yeah I'm only about 2 hours from you then
[21:41] <Tenkawa> Columbus area
[21:41] <hodapp> eep, -7 F in c-bus?
[21:42] <Tenkawa> on Sunday
[21:42] <Tenkawa> thats the forecast
[21:42] <hodapp> maybe cinci will get something similar, bleh
[21:42] <Tenkawa> Chicago's really suppose to be get hit hard
[21:42] <Tenkawa> snow and wind
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[21:49] <Tenkawa> tjohin: did I read right you have a PiUART?
[21:49] <Tenkawa> anything to watch out for?
[21:49] <Tenkawa> (if you did)
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[22:08] <ldz27> hi, the pi zero w has only two usb ports. i am using a usb hub. the first (power) usb slot is connected with power, the second one with usb hub. but pi zero recognize only the first input in the hub. any idea?
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[22:09] <friendofafriend> ldz27: You'll have to explain yourself further.
[22:09] <friendofafriend> ldz27: So, you're providing power to the Raspberry Pi Zero by its micro-USB port.
[22:10] <friendofafriend> And you're connecting the USB hub's data port to your Zero's USB data micro-USB.
[22:10] <friendofafriend> Is that correct?
[22:11] <ldz27> friendofafriend: (1.usb ), (2.usb hub)<-connected->(2.1usb hub, 2.2usb hub, 2.3usb hub, 2.4usb hub) <= somethin like that. 2. works, 2.1 works, but 2.2, 2.3, 2.4 don't work. so, i can use either mouse or keyboard, not both.
[22:12] <friendofafriend> Is this a powered hub, ldz27?
[22:12] <ldz27> yes, I am providing power to the Raspberry Pi zero by its micro-usb port (the 1.usb)
[22:12] <ldz27> friendofafriend: the hub works well on my pc. it is a snappy slim usb hub speedlink
[22:12] <friendofafriend> Right, but is the hub externally powered?
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[22:14] <ldz27> friendofafriend: no, it is not. only idirect through the power micro usb. but the hub was placed inside "usb" slot, not inside the "pwr" slot
[22:14] <friendofafriend> ldz27: Right. You'll need a powered hub.
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[22:15] <friendofafriend> The problems you are experiencing are because the Raspberry Pi Zero is not able to power the hub, and all the peripherals plugged into it.
[22:15] <ldz27> friendofafriend: too little power?
[22:15] <ldz27> oh, bad :(
[22:15] <ldz27> ok
[22:15] <friendofafriend> You can work around this a couple ways.
[22:16] <friendofafriend> You can use a power-data USB splitter between the Pi and hub, and provide additional power to the hub from another source.
[22:16] <friendofafriend> You can probably also backfeed power into the USB hub with an A-to-A cable and power supply.
[22:17] <friendofafriend> (But I wouldn't recommend doing that.)
[22:17] <friendofafriend> The splitter cable looks something like this. https://www.amazon.com/HIGHROCK-Enhancer-Female-Charge-Extension/dp/B00NIGO4NM
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[22:18] <friendofafriend> Where you would go Raspi Zero -> OTG Adapter -> Black USB A connector -> Hub.
[22:18] <friendofafriend> And then plug the red A connector into a power source.
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[22:20] <friendofafriend> You may already have a USB cable that splits power and data if you have an external hard disk drive that required more power than the port could provide.
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[22:22] <ldz27> friendofafriend: thanks. do you think I can backfeed my existing speedlink hub with a A-to-A cable?
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[22:23] <friendofafriend> ldz27: So, here's an alternative.
[22:24] <friendofafriend> You could plug your USB hub into the power source.
[22:24] <friendofafriend> You could plug a USB-to-microUSB into the hub, and connect that to power.
[22:24] <friendofafriend> And then connect from the USB port on the Pi into the data port on the USB hub.
[22:24] <friendofafriend> So power source -> hub -> Pi.
[22:24] <Tenkawa> decided to pick up two of those serial boards just in case
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[22:52] <ldz27> friendofafriend: thx :). I have to do some shopping. Actually I do not have the right cabling.
[22:53] <friendofafriend> ldz27: OK, did that trick not work?
[22:53] <friendofafriend> Power -> Hub -> USB-to-micro-USB -> Pi Power ?
[22:54] <friendofafriend> And then just connecting USB data on the Pi to the hub?
[22:56] <ldz27> friendofafriend: I cannot do the trick because I cannot connect usb data (micro usb) on the pi with usb slot on the hub (normal usb). micro usb (raspberypi) <-- micro usb - female adapter --> <-- missing A - A usb cable --> normal usb slot (hub)
[22:57] <friendofafriend> Oh, you need an OTG adapter?
[22:59] <friendofafriend> I only had 90 degree angled OTG adapters, so I had to use a razor blade to cut the end piece off.
[23:00] <ldz27> friendofafriend: ah, sorry my statment was bullshit. of course I can do pi <-- micro usb - usb --> hub slot, and hub <-- usb - power-->
[23:00] <ldz27> friendofafriend: my mistake. I will try this
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[23:01] <friendofafriend> Awesome! Hey, let us know if it gets you fixed up. :)
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[23:06] <ldz27> friendofafriend: the r pi boots directly, without pwr connected. i don't think it is good
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[23:17] <friendofafriend> So, you can provide power through the data port, also.
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[23:17] <friendofafriend> ldz27: It's very common, and not really anything to worry about.
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[23:24] <friendofafriend> ldz27: But I was saying to go from your power supply into your hub, so your hub is connected directly to power.
[23:25] <friendofafriend> Oh, drat, yeah. I see how that would be problem now. Nevermind.
[23:25] <friendofafriend> I guess you end up backfeeding somewhere.
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[23:25] <friendofafriend> You could probably go USB power supply -> A-to-A cable -> hub
[23:26] <friendofafriend> And then just plug the data part of the USB hub into the data connector on the Pi. It would probably feed power and let you use USB.
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[23:28] <ldz27> friendofafriend: explain me please the problem. I have created the connection but the key/mouse don't work. I have exchange the original power adapter with my mobile adapter (5v, 2a) because with the current setup i cannot work with micro usb power because the hub doesn't have this.
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[23:34] <friendofafriend> So, you could probably use one power supply for the Pi, and backfeed power into the hub with your other power supply.
[23:35] <friendofafriend> Attaching the Pi to one power supply, and the hub to another by A-to-A cable.
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[23:35] <ldz27> friendofafriend: my setup: https://postimg.cc/RqH5x5mv
[23:36] <ldz27> friendofafriend: yes, that was my first idea
[23:36] <ldz27> so, I need to buy a-a cable
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[23:37] <friendofafriend> You may be able to just power everything with one power supply.
[23:37] <friendofafriend> Just feeding power into the hub by A-to-A cable.
[23:38] <ldz27> but I am still not sure if an a-to-a cable can backfeed power into the hub through usb slot. I think a slot can not influance another slots. I think it is only possible for dedicated power slots (for power hubs). but I am not sure
[23:39] <friendofafriend> There's a pretty good chance power will backfeed.
[23:39] <friendofafriend> In that case, you can just plug into the USB connector on the Pi Zero, and not the PWR connector.
[23:40] <friendofafriend> You don't need to use the PWR connector on the Pi at all.
[23:40] <Encrypt> Hey friendofafriend :)
[23:40] <friendofafriend> Howdy, Encrypt! How goes things?
[23:40] <friendofafriend> PiVPN and PiHole, right?
[23:40] <Encrypt> Doing good :)
[23:40] <friendofafriend> Glad to hear. ;)
[23:40] <Encrypt> I received my TV Hat
[23:41] <Encrypt> The MCX connector is missing :/
[23:41] <Encrypt> I wrote to the support team of the supplier
[23:41] <friendofafriend> Huh, that's odd. It's MCX?
[23:41] <Encrypt> The micro-coax connector that you put at the end of the TV Hat
[23:41] <friendofafriend> Oh, yeah. MCX to Beling-Lee.
[23:42] <Encrypt> It was supposed to come with the hat itself but it didn't
[23:42] <ldz27> friendofafriend: ok, thank you. I will try this another time, actually a-a cable missing. alternative I will look for power hubs or power data-splitter.
[23:42] <Encrypt> Also, I'm still working on my home automation project. Things are better and better :P
[23:42] <Encrypt> I can now pilot two LEDs from my phone, ah ah
[23:43] <Encrypt> I'll soon create the PCB to pilot the heaters, that will be more useful :P
[23:43] <Encrypt> A Raspberry Pi 1 B is used as a controller
[23:43] <friendofafriend> ldz27: Check out https://github.com/superjamie/lazyweb/wiki/Raspberry-Pi-Power
[23:43] <Encrypt> I've had it for years, it really lasts! :P
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[23:44] <friendofafriend> ldz27: I've never tried using the max_usb_current=1 option in config.txt on the Zero. Maybe it would work for powering one more device on the hub? Not sure.
[23:44] <friendofafriend> Encrypt: Hey, that's great news!
[23:45] <Encrypt> Yep :)
[23:45] <friendofafriend> Sounds like you're on your way to turning your house into Star Trek! ;)
[23:45] <Encrypt> Well... not really, ah ah :D
[23:45] <friendofafriend> Closer than you might think, I bet. :)
[23:45] <Encrypt> x)
[23:50] <ldz27> friendofafriend: I am not sure about pi zero electricity consumption (300 mA?), but my hub needs 500 mA
[23:51] <ldz27> *I mean about pi zero usb electricity output
[23:52] <friendofafriend> ldz27: There's some good information about the Raspi and power, there! And it's good to know you can increase USB output current with a config.txt option. I'm just not sure if that works on the Zero.
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[23:55] <ldz27> but the 500 mA for hub seems to be value under stress. my keyboard needs only 48mA and I don't think the mouse consumes more. so, maybe the problem is related to system settings?
[23:56] <Lartza> iirc on the zero the usb power output is directly tied to the input
[23:57] <Lartza> and not fused to 1.2(1.6?) like on the big pi's
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[23:58] <friendofafriend> Fiddlesticks, Lartza. It is just backfeeding into the USB port that's unfused, or even through PWR?
[23:59] <Lartza> PWR?
[23:59] <friendofafriend> Yeah, PWR versus USB on the Pi Zero.

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