#raspberrypi IRC Log

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IRC Log for 2019-01-25

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[0:00] <Voop> cheap ~$10 screens exist
[0:01] <Voop> some chinese backup cameras can interface with the pi and be powered by 5v
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[0:01] <Voop> backup camera displays*
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[0:09] <akk> That sounds useful. I've seen 3.5" screens down around $20, occasionally lower with a hot sale, but haven't seen anything at $10 (and am not finding much now, probably not searching for the right keywords).
[0:10] <Syliss> amazon has some for 10-20 but their actual refresh rate and what not are hit or miss
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[0:18] <stevest> akk: https://www.banggood.com/35-inch-TFT-LCD-Touch-Screen-Protective-Case-Touch-Pen-Kit-For-Raspberry-Pi-3B3B2B-p-1391232.html
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[0:19] <akk> That looks like a good deal. I got a similar 3.5" screen recently. I'm not finding anything about these larger backup camera screens, though.
[0:20] <akk> Mine was about that price but didn't come with a case.
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[0:24] * BurtyB wonders what a backup camera display is?
[0:24] <rpifan> hello
[0:25] <Syliss> lol banggood
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[0:35] <Syliss> BurtyB: its normally an lcd with a composite in adapter instead of spi/hdmi
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[1:34] <akk> BurtyB: Like to install in a car's dashboard for a camera that shows what's behind the car.
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[1:53] <BurtyB> akk, ah, I was thinking the other kind of backup lol
[1:53] <akk> BurtyB: Perfectly reasonable. Like that old monitor I keep in a closet in case my regular one burns out. :)
[1:54] <Voop> i peeled the polarization layer off my spare monitor
[1:54] <Voop> now i can only use it with goofy glasses on
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[2:36] <caoliver> Goofy glasses: https://i.ebayimg.com/images/g/YzwAAOSwwq1avtpw/s-l300.jpg
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[3:20] <ASB2> Hello o/
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[5:02] <willc> I wonder why they skipped password3
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[5:13] <password4> passwords3 is not to be talked about
[5:13] <password4> he is inpure
[5:14] <password4> only base 2 passwords are pure
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[6:30] <Phischi> hm, anyone using something different than NTFS or EXT3/4 on memory (SD/USB) to reduce wear?
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[9:22] <ASB2> Im confused. What is the difference between manually changing wpa_supplicant.conf and using rapsi-config to add a network
[9:22] <ASB2> Removing a network from the conf file and adding a new one made my pi not connect to wifi at all. The only thing that would make it work was adding the network through raspi-config
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[9:28] <BurtyB> ASB2, you possibly missed some of the config in there?
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[9:42] <ASB2> Yep i did. Underscores and dashes are very different things
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[10:02] <alkisg> I run `debsums -s`, it finds issues. I reinstall the packages, it's clean. I reboot, rerun debsums, it finds different issues!
[10:02] <alkisg> The sd card is new, what should I suspect? Undervoltage? Broken ext4 file system even though it's clean in fsck -f?
[10:02] <alkisg> Btw, "reboot" in an xterm does call "sync" before rebooting, right?
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[10:08] <shiftplusone> what files are modified?
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[10:08] <shiftplusone> and yes, reboot should call sync
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[10:18] <alkisg> shiftplusone: example: debsums: changed file /opt/Wolfram/WolframEngine/11.3/SystemFiles/Fonts/TrueType/Lato-Light.ttf (from wolfram-engine package)
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[10:19] <shiftplusone> ah alright. I was hoping maybe it was files which are expected to change. What card is this? Do you get any undervoltage warnings?
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[10:20] <alkisg> No undervoltage warnings in dmesg. It's a new kingston 16gb card
[10:21] <alkisg> https://www.e-shop.gr/kingston-sdcs-16gb-canvas-select-16gb-micro-sdhc-uhs-i-class-10-sd-adapter-p-PER.345461
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[10:21] <shiftplusone> I'd suspect the card is fake or just doesn't handle random access well, but honestly I have no idea.
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[10:22] <alkisg> I'll try reformatting the whole file system... I'm afraid of ext4 fs regressions in recent kernels :/
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[13:48] <ShorTie> with a 3b+ booted from usb, is the green led suppose to blink rapidily ??
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[13:53] <ShorTie> like too fast to count, pause, repeat....
[13:54] <gordonDrogon> booted or booting ?
[13:56] <gordonDrogon> if it's booted and you can login, then you can cat /sys/class/leds/led0/trigger
[13:56] <ShorTie> after it is booted, just sitting there
[13:56] <gordonDrogon> to see what it's reflecting the state of...
[13:59] <Khaytsus> Is it working or not
[13:59] * gordonDrogon guesses it's working fine, but just having weird LED behaviour..
[14:00] <ShorTie> input panic mmc1 maybe ??
[14:00] <Khaytsus> Those are words.
[14:00] <ShorTie> seems to be workin all right
[14:00] <ShorTie> oh, that twas in /sys/class/leds/led0/trigger
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[14:01] <gordonDrogon> one of the things in trigger will have [] round it - that indicates the current trigger...
[14:01] <Khaytsus> Do you have this on a monitor? If so, do you see any power warnings? Google seems to indicate that might be a low power symptom.
[14:01] <gordonDrogon> poewr led is red though.
[14:02] <Khaytsus> I know.
[14:02] <ShorTie> ok, it's [mmc0]
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[14:02] <Khaytsus> So that's disk access
[14:02] <Khaytsus> mmc0 would be the sdcard though right?
[14:02] <gordonDrogon> maybe the kernel just want to keep accessing the SD card and if it's not plugged in then it's throwing a wobbly.
[14:02] <gordonDrogon> just change it to heatbeat :)
[14:03] <gordonDrogon> * heartbeat
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[14:09] <ShorTie> cmdline.txt has/had mmcblk0 in it
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[14:10] <ShorTie> instead of sda
[14:11] * ShorTie Thinkz give it 5 to reboot, lol
[14:12] <ShorTie> maybe
[14:13] <ShorTie> still the same, oh well
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[14:15] <ShorTie> but of course that doesn't change it in the initramfs, so it might not of done much either
[14:16] <Khaytsus> if it's that big a deal, just disable the led on boot heh
[14:16] <Khaytsus> I only have one pi I can even see here personally.. the rest of them are scattered in places
[14:17] <ShorTie> booting from usb about doubles the boot time it seems
[14:17] <Khaytsus> That'd depend on the USB drive I'd think
[14:18] <Khaytsus> I have a few USB drives around here that are all marked the same, USB 2.0 or whatnot, but some of them are slow as USB 1
[14:18] <Khaytsus> I have thee USB 3;s, two of them are USB 2 speed.
[14:18] <ShorTie> ya, could be a factor
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[14:19] <Khaytsus> USB 1/2/3 is a spec not a speed, so a device could say it's "USB 3" and run at USB 1 speeds.
[14:20] <Khaytsus> Linux and lsusb (-t? I forget) is great to identify what speed your ports and devices are at. Of course if a port is slow, it won't show the device as being any faster)
[14:20] <Khaytsus> I don't........think
[14:20] <ShorTie> i twas just wondering if install worked using usb as the drive anyways
[14:21] <ShorTie> but i need tweek the install to get the cmdline right in the initramfs
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[14:29] <BurtyB> ShorTie, "dtoverlay=sdtweak,poll_once=on" should stop it from regularly trying to probe the missing SD card too
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[14:57] <ShorTie> BurtyB, where would that go ??
[15:03] <BurtyB> ShorTie, /boot/config.txt
[15:07] <ShorTie> �k�� ��K��
[15:07] <ShorTie> Thankz .. :)~
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[15:12] <password4> is the RPI HAT specification sufficient for stacking pis?
[15:12] <password4> ie , how would the flash identification work?
[15:12] <Habbie> password4, stacking them in what way?
[15:13] <BurtyB> if it follows the HAT spec there is no stacking
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[15:14] <BurtyB> (unless you're RPi then you just use a different I2C address - as with the PoE HAT)
[15:14] <password4> Hobby, one ontop the toher
[15:14] <password4> BurtyB, ?
[15:14] <password4> if i am RPi?
[15:16] <password4> i mane more than one hat
[15:16] <password4> upto 10
[15:16] <password4> :D
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[15:17] <BurtyB> password4, RPi as in the raspberry pi foundation or whichever one it is :)
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[15:18] <password4> why do they stack hats and not others?
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[15:19] <BurtyB> password4, hmmm "do as i say not as i do" is about all I can come up with
[15:20] <password4> well
[15:20] <password4> eh
[15:20] <password4> ok
[15:20] <password4> well the issue i have is with the eeprom
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[15:26] <gordonDrogon> just buy 10 Pi's.
[15:27] <gordonDrogon> one HAT on each..
[15:27] <Habbie> it's not even clear to me password4 wants a HAT
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[15:30] <password4> gordonDrogon, nah
[15:30] <password4> would rather retrofit an rp to have 200 io pins
[15:31] <gordonDrogon> that's been done, however what is your application?
[15:31] <Habbie> password4, what problem are you trying to solve?
[15:32] <password4> industrial io :D
[15:33] <password4> doing things that is not meant for an rpi
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[15:34] <password4> well using an rpi is not debatable
[15:35] <password4> and stacking them neither
[15:35] <password4> the guy signing my paycheck said so :D
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[15:36] <Habbie> you keep saying 'stacking them' but it's very unclear what you mean by that
[15:36] <password4> habby
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[15:36] <password4> you know when you have an rpi on the table?
[15:36] <Habbie> yes
[15:36] <password4> and you plug a hat onto it ? connecting to the 40 pin headear
[15:37] <Habbie> yes
[15:37] <password4> now imagine plugging another hat onto said hat
[15:37] <password4> so each hat has a male to female header
[15:37] <ShorTie> as long as the io lines are not common, stack away
[15:37] <Habbie> password4, yes
[15:38] <BurtyB> ShorTie, which they would be if it's a spec following HAT
[15:40] <password4> well the boards I'm desiging will talk on I2C
[15:40] <BurtyB> password4, so don't follow the HAT spec (no eeprom or only one) and just stack them
[15:42] <password4> i might ad multiple eeproms , but add an additional smd header that disables additional ones
[15:42] <password4> or some crazy shit like that
[15:42] <password4> :P
[15:47] <password4> but then alignment will be an issue
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[15:52] <gordonDrogon> you can connect up to 8 x mcp23017's to a Pi and a further 16 x mcp12s17's - that's trivial and would give you 24 * 16 = 384 digital IO pins.
[15:53] <gordonDrogon> you can connect a lot more mcp23s17s (SPI) just needs a line or 2 more code.
[15:53] <gordonDrogon> the big issue is wiring. connecting 100's of wires up.
[15:54] <BurtyB> and there's also i2c multiplexters if you want more :)
[15:55] <gordonDrogon> it's easier to use a 2nd Pi on Ethernet. (BTDT)
[15:55] <gordonDrogon> especially if there is distance involved..
[15:56] <gordonDrogon> wiringPi supports digitalWrite/etc. on remote network Pis ... other gpio libraries are available...
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[15:58] <password2> whoops, i run out of bandwidth
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[16:00] <McDonaldsWiFi> you guys think there will ever be a risc-v pi?
[16:01] <McDonaldsWiFi> that'd be pretty dope
[16:02] <korryd> https://riscv.org/2019/01/ab-open-article-cru-raspberry-pi-goes-risc-v-new-foss-business-model-kicon-2019-and-more/
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[16:05] <McDonaldsWiFi> oh this is promising
[16:05] <shiftplusone> that article is just speculation
[16:05] <McDonaldsWiFi> it kind of fights the spirit of pi though
[16:05] <McDonaldsWiFi> itll be cheapter than licensing ARM
[16:05] <McDonaldsWiFi> cheaper*
[16:05] <McDonaldsWiFi> fits teh spirit** man i can't ype today
[16:07] <McDonaldsWiFi> HiFiveUnleashed is $1000 dollars, phew
[16:07] <McDonaldsWiFi> itll get better over time though
[16:08] <hodapp> bluespec is a RISC-V specialist?
[16:09] <hodapp> McDonaldsWiFi: there is also https://www.eetimes.com/document.asp?doc_id=1334087&page_number=1
[16:10] <McDonaldsWiFi> ooooo
[16:10] <McDonaldsWiFi> Wonder how much legacy code is in their source
[16:10] <gordonDrogon> given that the Pi foundation work/have worked with broadcom who license the arm thing, I suspect that cost isn't an issue ...
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[16:11] <McDonaldsWiFi> broadcom is known for their black boxes
[16:11] <McDonaldsWiFi> having open source computer would make me a lot happier
[16:11] <McDonaldsWiFi> i'd be willing to use a pi level computer as a daily driver for that reason
[16:12] <McDonaldsWiFi> does ARM have a management engine like intel?
[16:13] <hodapp> yeah, Intel has like 45 of them
[16:13] <hodapp> 57 of which have been hacked
[16:13] <gordonDrogon> if you pay them for one, they'll make it ...
[16:14] <McDonaldsWiFi> reminds me of the Librem laptop
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[16:14] <McDonaldsWiFi> they've been working on killing IME
[16:14] <McDonaldsWiFi> they've got it to barebones now, almost all the telemetry is broken
[16:15] <McDonaldsWiFi> they found more they can nuke but it starts disabling hardware, like NICs
[16:15] <hodapp> is it Richard M. Stallman Approved(tm)?
[16:15] <gordonDrogon> has anyone found evidence that the IME phones home yet?
[16:16] <McDonaldsWiFi> laptop might be.. its probably close
[16:16] <McDonaldsWiFi> their librem phone isn't because the modem chips are all closed source
[16:16] <McDonaldsWiFi> but htey have basically isolated it as much as they can in software
[16:17] <McDonaldsWiFi> i dunno, guess wireshark would pick that uup yeah?
[16:18] <hodapp> afaik, the concern isn't so much 'phoning home' as that it's susceptible to a lot of outside network access that can't really be audited as well
[16:18] <shiftplusone> You can push the barrier to what you consider open source all the way to the tools used to synthesise the silicon. It's all a bit absurd and has very little bearing on the practical aspects of computing. Seems like people want a warm glow of standing for something more than actually truly caring about open source.
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[16:19] <hodapp> shiftplusone: yeah, except for cases that some of us are professionals dealing with systems that are more than just toys to play with but have actual impacts on people's lives in varying capacities, and being able to effectively audit and verify what is going on is tantamount
[16:20] <hodapp> shiftplusone: and then what's actually absurd is pretending like it's responsible to blatantly ignore black boxes in hardware
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[16:21] <shiftplusone> Not ignore them. Recognize they're there. Applaud steps which take us away from them even. Just don't rabidly attack every company that has them and spread unfounded conspiracy theories about them. I'm not saying you're doing that, just that there's too much of that going on.
[16:21] <McDonaldsWiFi> yeah black boxes are a no-no if you truly care about security
[16:22] <McDonaldsWiFi> but they are in everything we use pretty mcuh :(
[16:22] <hodapp> shiftplusone: so maybe meet them halfway by not spreading unfounded conspiracy theories about people's motives in open source
[16:22] <fs31> Hey guys. I'm doing some study in the brcmfmac driver using my Raspberry Pi 3b+ and I trying to understand why it gives you a multi-queue variable when you call brcmf_sdio_bus_gettxq
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[16:27] <shiftplusone> heh, well played. But if somebody is going to say raspberry pi is not open source because it requires a blob to boot, while they consider another platform with similar blobs burned into the silicon as open source, then they're clearly not being genuine. That's where the absurdity kicks in for me. We have blobs on sd cards, on hard drives, on GPUs on network cards, switches and everywhere in between, but for whatever reason, having a
[16:27] <shiftplusone> binary file on an sd card is a step too far.
[16:27] <hodapp> shiftplusone: what platform that is reliant on binary blobs is widely considered "open source" by the same people?
[16:29] <shiftplusone> All the recommended ones here? https://wiki.debian.org/CheapServerBoxHardware?action=show&redirect=FreedomBox%2FTargetedHardware
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[16:30] <shiftplusone> that OLinuXino A20 LIME2 does look close though
[16:30] <Khaytsus> shiftplusone: I wonder if RMS uses a fridge.
[16:31] <Khaytsus> any digital watch, ever
[16:31] <Khaytsus> etc
[16:31] <shiftplusone> I guess the argument would be that there haven't been cases of your fridge spying on you
[16:31] <Khaytsus> But your fridge runs proprietary code, blobs, stuff you can't control or see or build.
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[16:33] <hodapp> sort of depends on the fridge.
[16:33] <shiftplusone> Maybe we should make a list of FreedomFridges
[16:33] <hodapp> plenty of fridges, and other appliances, run nothing more complicated than closed-loop feedback.
[16:34] <McDonaldsWiFi> in the case of most IoT, it's mostly a security risk because of the unmaintained firmware
[16:35] <Khaytsus> My point is some people just obsess about blobs, yet pretty much anything electronic has some blobs in some sort. Even if they're very simple.
[16:35] <Khaytsus> McDonaldsWiFi: the S in IoT stands for Security.
[16:35] <McDonaldsWiFi> yeah that's true
[16:35] <shiftplusone> Where are the schematics and cad files (in an open format that an open source cad package can read)
[16:35] <McDonaldsWiFi> Khaytsus: haa I see what you did there
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[16:36] <hodapp> Khaytsus: and in general, people still are careful with electronics, proportional to how much said electronics have access to sensitive information and how much they are responsible for controlling things that matter
[16:37] <shiftplusone> anyway... back to figuring out why dhcpcd in buster doesn't pick up ethernet link status changes if the pi is booted with the cable plugged in.
[16:37] <Khaytsus> heh
[16:37] <hodapp> and unsurprisingly, "if anything can happen, then anything can happen!", while tautologically true, is rarely a threat model that people actually examine. This isn't some sort of hypocrisy.
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[16:38] <hodapp> and so "well if this thing that you can't see directly could happen, then you're a hypocrite for NOT caring about this other thing you can't see directly!" is rarely evidence of a double standard.
[16:40] <hodapp> which is why, for instance, a processor deployed in a capacity of directly handling billions of transactions and countless amounts of personal data receives a bit more scrutiny than my garage door opener.
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[16:42] <pyfgcr> Khaytsus: according to rms: "When we insist that the software in a computing device must be free, we can overlook preinstalled firmware that will never be upgraded, because it makes no difference to the user that it's a program rather than a circuit."
[16:42] <shiftplusone> What's your take on companies protecting their IP by relying on blobs? Should they be doing something else instead of do you think they can do whatever they want and somebody else can come along and disrupt their business model (like riscv)?
[16:43] <pyfgcr> taken from here:
[16:43] <pyfgcr> https://www.gnu.org/philosophy/android-and-users-freedom.html
[16:43] <shiftplusone> *...instead or...
[16:46] <hodapp> it remains to be seen how much things like RISC-V or MIPS (if that article is to be believed) actually disrupts their business model
[16:48] <hodapp> and whether we'll see a similar thing as to what happened when an entity like Google started making all kinds of things open-source, and it commoditized entire markets by anchoring the expected price at $0
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[16:52] <shiftplusone> Whether that happens or not, do you think companies that use black boxes today are acting unethically (regardless of the reason for the black box) and if so, what would be the solution?
[16:52] <shiftplusone> (this isn't leading up to a gotcha or anything, I'm just curious about your perspective, since you seem reasonable)
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[16:54] <McDonaldsWiFi> i dont think closed source is unethical by nature
[16:54] <McDonaldsWiFi> BUT it is easier to do unethical things with it
[16:54] <McDonaldsWiFi> SO, if you are 100% concerned with security above all, then avoiding them is the natural solution
[16:54] <McDonaldsWiFi> like with intel, somoene discovered their IME
[16:55] <McDonaldsWiFi> they didn't tell anyone it was there
[16:55] <McDonaldsWiFi> or what it does
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[17:02] <hodapp> yeah, I don't know that I consider it on its own unethical, but it is something that greatly aids unethical behaviors (misrepresentation of what something does, privacy violations, security risks, harassment/lawsuits against those with a legitimate need to reverse-engineer or break security, violation of IP of others)
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[17:07] <shiftplusone> is it up to individuals to vote with their wallet and engineers to push back against black boxes in their companies where possible, or is there something that should be done at a legislative level? What's the ideal world?
[17:08] <hodapp> sure, if you want people with fatter wallets to get waaaaaaaay more votes
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