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IRC Log for 2019-01-29

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[0:33] <phinxy> tommy``: Do you want the image displayed on the framebuffer or drawn on the terminal with actual characters?
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[0:45] <friendofafriend> tommy``: Probably "fbi" or this. https://www.nongnu.org/fbi-improved/
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[1:06] <fling> I don't have 'sensors' command but how do I check temperatures?
[1:06] <fling> sshd banner shows them somehow
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[1:07] <fling> Or is it coming from a profile?
[1:07] * fling checking
[1:08] <fling> Temperature........: CPU: 56°C/132°F GPU: 56°C/132°F
[1:08] <fling> Is this fine?
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[1:28] <WereSquirrel> That's a perfectly fine temp. You don't need to worry much about your pi catching fire in general because it'll throttle itself to keep heat under control
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[1:35] <ebarch> fling: the Pi doesn't even begin throttling until 80C. As long as you're below that, there's no performance degradation
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[2:40] <fling> ebarch: ok, thanks.
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[2:40] <fling> What psu is requiered for 3 model A+?
[2:41] <fling> 2.5A too?
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[2:52] <stiv> you can never be too rich or have too many amps
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[3:00] <fling> stiv: I wanted to use 3 model A+ for capturing long H264 videos from c920 webcam with a battery.
[3:01] <fling> stiv: I've see power consumption comparison and model A looks fine
[3:01] <fling> But then I tried model B+ and turned out I need 2.5A psu :P
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[3:10] <anthonysalamanca> holy fuck my pi just caught fire
[3:11] <anthonysalamanca> i fished it out of storage (i was using my pi zero but needed a 3b for a class I'm taking), plugged it in, and it just caught fire
[3:15] <leftyfb> anthonysalamanca: no need for the language
[3:16] <anthonysalamanca> sorry, it's fixated in my vocabulary from the samuel l jackson method of curing stuttering
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[3:27] <Khaytsus> Neat.
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[3:27] <Khaytsus> Maybe you plugged into a bone headed 12V USB receptical which seems to be increasingly common?
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[3:32] <stiv> executed the Halt & Catch Fire opcode, eh?
[3:32] <friendofafriend> Talk about flashing new firmware.
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[3:46] <Crenn-NAS> stiv: I didn't even know ARM had that instruction!
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[4:28] <xoxo> hi hi
[4:29] <xoxo> is there a RPI solution for my problem... https://www.globalsources.com/gsol/I/E-paper-display/p/sm/1165138322.htm#1165138322 <- i want to get android running on this thing, i need to it display PDFs for sheet musi
[4:29] <xoxo> music*
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[5:58] <fling> What is the name of the nes game platformer where you race to the right underwater? :P
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[6:15] <Lartza> fling, Exclusively underwater? :S
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[6:19] <fling> Lartza: yes
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[6:30] <xoxo> hey lartza, fling, any idea if there is a simple solution wtih rpi and a eINK display? i wanna make a music tablature device
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[6:36] <uriah> xoxo: not really
[6:36] <uriah> not for "big" eink screens
[6:36] <xoxo> uriah: 13.3"" is considered big?
[6:36] <uriah> yes
[6:36] <uriah> for eink
[6:36] <xoxo> uriah: what about 10"
[6:37] <uriah> largest you'll find for pi is 7", maybe
[6:37] <xoxo> k
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[6:37] <uriah> and refresh rate will be very slow
[6:38] <Lartza> waveshare has a 7.5" one
[6:38] <Lartza> actually 9.7 too
[6:38] <uriah> oh? I haven't looked in a while
[6:38] <Lartza> https://www.waveshare.com/9.7inch-e-Paper-HAT.htm
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[6:38] <xoxo> https://www.globalsources.com/gsol/I/E-paper-display/p/sm/1165138322.htm#1165138322 <- i want to get android running on this thing, i need to it display PDFs for sheet musi
[6:39] <Lartza> What does that display and android have anything to do with an rpi?
[6:39] <xoxo> i thought with RPI i could install a device to that display running android?
[6:39] <uriah> Full refresh time: <1s
[6:39] <uriah> nice that's less bad than before
[6:40] <Lartza> Why Android?
[6:40] <Lartza> Why that display?
[6:40] <xoxo> Lartza: thats the biggest eINK i could find
[6:40] <xoxo> Lartza: And I figured android would be a quick way to display PDF files
[6:40] <uriah> ...
[6:40] <Lartza> You can get a 32" one https://shopkits.eink.com/product/eps-c07-32inch/ :P
[6:41] <xoxo> shit
[6:41] <xoxo> i didnt know that
[6:41] <Lartza> Probably didn't need to
[6:41] <uriah> wow look at the price
[6:42] <Lartza> You do also know you need to order ten from globalsources?
[6:42] <Lartza> And they probably cost a fair bit per piece
[6:42] <uriah> ouch
[6:42] <Lartza> a 13" screen is like 200-400 dollars
[6:42] <Lartza> afaik
[6:43] <toastintheshell> but then you'll be able to wallpaper your entire house with eink
[6:43] <xoxo> https://shopkits.eink.com/product/13-3˝-epaper-display-es133ut2/
[6:43] <Lartza> Ebay has some for 500$ and 1200$
[6:43] <xoxo> how easy would it be to get PDFs loaded on that thing?
[6:43] <Lartza> You don't load anything to the display
[6:43] <Lartza> You just open pdfs on your pi...
[6:43] <xoxo> yea i meant this, how easy is it to cnonect that to a pi
[6:44] <Lartza> I'd get the waveshare one personally, but hacking is always possible https://www.raspberrypi.org/blog/using-e-ink-raspberry-pi/
[6:44] <Lartza> Even the waveshare is 170USD
[6:44] <xoxo> which waveshare
[6:44] <xoxo> the 9.7in?
[6:44] <Lartza> 3" jump for double the price sounds steep
[6:44] <Lartza> Yes
[6:45] <xoxo> Lartza: im new to this as u can tell... can raspery pi run android?
[6:45] <Lartza> For around 40$ it can afaik
[6:45] <xoxo> sweet
[6:46] <Lartza> Not sure why you want Android though...
[6:46] <Lartza> It's a mobile phone OS for touch devices
[6:46] <xoxo> so all the working pieces from here: https://www.waveshare.com/9.7inch-e-Paper-HAT.htm can easily be transferred to this: https://shopkits.eink.com/product/13-3˝-epaper-display-es133ut2/
[6:46] <xoxo> Lartza: what would be your solution to read PDF files on a RPI device?
[6:46] <Lartza> No idea, and you can probably buy controllers totally separately
[6:47] <Lartza> What do you mean? Any pdf reader
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[6:47] <xoxo> what OS?
[6:47] <Lartza> Linux of course
[6:47] <xoxo> oh!
[6:47] <xoxo> that's fine.
[6:47] <xoxo> linux is koo
[6:47] <Lartza> emteria is actually 19€ not 40$ https://emteria.com/
[6:48] <Lartza> But I see no reason for Android, and you probably can't get an e-ink display working on Android...
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[6:49] <Lartza> Hmm actually getting just the IC for the waveshare might not be possible, and might not even work
[6:49] <Lartza> But you really want a datasheet for the eink.com one to figure out how to use it
[6:50] <Lartza> Why e-ink and not a... display btw? :S
[6:50] <xoxo> e-ink looks so cool
[6:50] <Lartza> I mean sure but you also want big...
[6:51] <xoxo> yeah.. i mean, i could use my 4K TV for big
[6:51] <xoxo> but id rather have modest and e ink proprotions :p
[6:51] <Lartza> That's kind of hard to mount on a music stand ;)
[6:52] <xoxo> haha
[6:52] <Lartza> Right but a 32" display is going to cost you less than a 10" e-ink
[6:52] <xoxo> ya
[6:52] <xoxo> https://shopkits.eink.com/product/ice-driving-board/ <- is suggested by https://shopkits.eink.com/product/13-3˝-epaper-display-es133ut2/
[6:52] <Lartza> I'm not saying e-ink is bad just, you should consider all options
[6:52] <xoxo> i presume that is my only way of getting linux on this thing?
[6:54] <Lartza> That... might be wat you want but looks comples too
[6:54] <Lartza> It doesn't seem to IC the e-ink as a display and I am not sure what you use to program it?
[6:54] <Lartza> Oh, a Windows PC
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[6:54] <xoxo> oh wow
[6:54] <xoxo> Lartza: that thing runs windows?
[6:54] <Lartza> ...
[6:55] <Lartza> nothing runs Windows
[6:55] <Lartza> That is a controller to drive the display
[6:55] <xoxo> what about a Windows PC then?
[6:55] <Lartza> Your display isn't going to run Android or Linux
[6:55] <Lartza> You use a Windows PC to control the board
[6:55] <xoxo> so your saying, that board connects to a windows pc
[6:55] <Lartza> Yes
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[6:56] <Lartza> They only really describe how you update the firmware but
[6:56] <xoxo> damn where can i find a paper thin windows pc?
[6:57] <Lartza> Hrm the waveshare one has windows instructions too for it for some reason
[6:57] <Lartza> oh nvm
[6:57] <Lartza> There's code to show BMP on it from RPi
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[6:58] <xoxo> are you reading the manual
[6:59] <Lartza> waveshare wiki
[6:59] <Lartza> You do know you are going to need an actual display for the RPi too most likely?
[6:59] <xoxo> https://shopkits.eink.com/product/13-3˝-epaper-display-es133ut2/ <- im gonna get that one
[6:59] <Lartza> Since it's not like you can use the e-ink one to navigate your files
[7:00] <xoxo> is that not also a touch screen?
[7:00] <Lartza> Of course not...
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[7:00] <Lartza> And it can't display data so fast that you can navigate it
[7:00] <Lartza> It takes almost a second to draw the screen
[7:00] <xoxo> oh
[7:01] <xoxo> https://www.globalsources.com/gsol/I/E-paper-display/p/sm/1165138322.htm#1165138322
[7:01] <xoxo> what about that thing?
[7:01] <Lartza> That's not a touch screen
[7:01] <xoxo> the screenshot has a stylus in it :p
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[7:02] <Lartza> The product images usually don't mean much
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[7:03] <Lartza> It would help if the product description made sense though...
[7:03] <Lartza> Also it's not like you can magically also get touch working on the rpi
[7:04] <Lartza> You can't really get a rpi e-ink touch display
[7:04] <xoxo> 13.3˝ ePaper Display <- is that one not touch screen?
[7:04] <xoxo> Lartza: if kindle can do it, why cant rpi!
[7:04] <Lartza> ...
[7:04] <Lartza> Because they engineered it?
[7:04] <xoxo> i see
[7:05] <Lartza> Buy a touch panel, an e-ink panel, spend electrical engineering time to wire everything up, spend sofware engineering time to write drivers
[7:05] <Lartza> Done
[7:05] <xoxo> you suggest i entwine a ink panel and a touch panel
[7:05] <Lartza> So I mean nothing is impossible... but you are comparing a finished product to something that's... you piecing stuff together
[7:06] <Lartza> No
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[7:07] <Lartza> I suggest you get a touchscreen
[7:07] <xoxo> it seems you don't care for my creative interests :p
[7:08] <Lartza> You can get an e-ink display and show BMP images on it or you can get a touch screen and use it as a touch screen
[7:08] <Lartza> That's just the reality
[7:09] <Lartza> And you'll need a display or terminal access to use the e-ink
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[9:02] <tommy``> phinxy yes image on framebuffer
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[9:02] <tommy``> friendofafriend, i will check that thanks!
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[9:06] <friendofafriend> Always welcome, fbi is a neat tool. ;)
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[14:53] <McDonaldsWiFi> how hard is it to configure httpd to hand out ips to only one interface?
[14:53] <McDonaldsWiFi> for instance, my wlan0 will be conencted to an AP, and my wlan1 will be an AP
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[14:57] <BurtyB> PublicWiFi, I assume you mean dhcpd and not httpd? if so you just tell it what range to announce in the config file and assuming you have the network setup properly (with different subnets on the interfaces) it will announce on the interface for that subnet
[14:57] <PublicWiFi> yeah im an idiot sry
[14:57] <PublicWiFi> its super early
[14:57] <PublicWiFi> lol
[14:57] <PublicWiFi> ahh awesome so i can choose the subnet, perfect
[14:57] <PublicWiFi> ty
[14:57] <PublicWiFi> helpful as always ^^
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[15:07] <EdwardIII> the offical raspberrypi monitor came, super slick setup
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[15:07] <EdwardIII> although the usb cable that pihut suggest to power it is too short to work with a rpi A+
[15:08] <EdwardIII> i should email them about that
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[15:11] <shiftplusone> official monitor? the touchscreen display or what?
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[15:24] <EdwardIII> i put the raspbian desktop distro into my sdcard. when the pi starts it shows a "Welcome ot the rpi desktop" nicely rendered logo, then drops down into terminal, no X env or anything that i can see. is this normal?
[15:26] <EdwardIII> shiftplusone: yeah the touchscreen display
[15:27] <shiftplusone> EdwardIII: which image did you download?
[15:27] <shiftplusone> ah, you said desktop
[15:27] <shiftplusone> no, that's not normal for the raspbian or raspbian-full images.
[15:29] <EdwardIII> the sdcard i'm using is pretty large, not sure if that could cause problems
[15:29] <shiftplusone> no, that's fine.
[15:29] <EdwardIII> when i do df -h it doesn't look right. i think the root fs is mounted read-only (i can't write to /home/pi as pi with that error)
[15:29] <EdwardIII> and df -h only shows 3.1G
[15:30] <EdwardIII> whereas the sdcard is around 32 or 64G
[15:30] <shiftplusone> anything interesting in 'sudo journalctl' ?
[15:31] <EdwardIII> i used balenaEtcher and 2018-11-13-raspbian-stretch.zip
[15:32] <EdwardIII> hrm lots of errors where it can't start (looks like because it can't write to /tmp/), can't seem to scroll up
[15:33] <EdwardIII> and can't figure out how to do a pipe on this stupid reduced-size keyboard so can't send it to vim either
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[15:34] <gordonDrogon> try the key to the left of the z key.
[15:34] <gordonDrogon> it's usually \ and |
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[15:34] <shiftplusone> On sensible keyboards, it's shift.
[15:34] <EdwardIII> this keyboard doesn't have a key to the left of the z key
[15:34] <EdwardIII> well it does, it's got shfit and ctrl
[15:35] <EdwardIII> maybe i should just try reflashing the sdcard and start again?
[15:35] <shiftplusone> yes
[15:35] <EdwardIII> ok, will do
[15:35] * gordonDrogon looks at his keysonic (mini keyboard) ... to the left of the space bar is \ and |
[15:35] <shiftplusone> is your power supply decent?
[15:37] <EdwardIII> shiftplusone: Output: DC 5V --- 5A (MAX)
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[15:37] <EdwardIII> gordonDrogon: it's one of these: https://www.amazon.co.uk/dp/B01ABUJ2KM/ref=asc_df_B01ABUJ2KM58142109/?tag=googshopuk-21&creative=22146&creativeASIN=B01ABUJ2KM&linkCode=df0&hvadid=310855849579&hvpos=1o1&hvnetw=g&hvrand=9282201691280845153&hvpone=&hvptwo=&hvqmt=&hvdev=c&hvdvcmdl=&hvlocint=&hvlocphy=1007033&hvtargid=pla-546476617106
[15:37] <shiftplusone> certainly beefy enough if it's not lying. If that's fine and the cable you're using is good too, that's strange
[15:38] <EdwardIII> maybe the sdcard is bust?
[15:38] <EdwardIII> anyway lemme reflash
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[15:38] <shiftplusone> above the enter?
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[15:38] <EdwardIII> maybe i should use the proper guide too rather than just using etcher & the zip?
[15:38] <gordonDrogon> EdwardIII, wow. above enter.
[15:38] <shiftplusone> etcher and the zip are fine
[15:38] <EdwardIII> gordonDrogon: doesn't work with UK key mapping
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[15:39] <EdwardIII> it's not end-of-the-world stuff, i can figure it out at some point :)
[15:39] <gordonDrogon> ok
[15:39] <gordonDrogon> looks like a nice little keyboard though.
[15:39] <shiftplusone> right alt + tilde
[15:39] <EdwardIII> yeah it's cute, knock-off cherry MX switches
[15:40] <EdwardIII> shiftplusone: that works!
[15:40] <BurtyB> durty US layout tho
[15:40] <EdwardIII> well, shift+fn+escape/tilde
[15:41] <EdwardIII> very ergonomic heh
[15:41] <shiftplusone> yay
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[15:45] <EdwardIII> found an interesting looking error: "failed to load /etc/fstab: structure needs cleaning"
[15:46] <EdwardIII> hrm if i try and access /etc/fstab as root i get "Permission denied"
[15:46] <shiftplusone> maybe check the shasum of the downloaded .zip. Did you also let etcher verify it after flashing?
[15:46] <EdwardIII> with vi. that's not good
[15:46] <EdwardIII> yeah i let etcher verify
[15:47] <EdwardIII> i'm going to redownload and reflash nwo
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[16:14] <EdwardIII> yeah same deal
[16:14] <EdwardIII> maybe the sdcard is bust?
[16:16] <gordonDrogon> wouldn't be the first time ...
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[16:18] <EdwardIII> when i run `fsck` it says comm fsck: deleted inode referenced: 972
[16:18] <gordonDrogon> are you running fsck on a live Pi?
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[16:19] <stiv> that sounds exciting!
[16:19] <EdwardIII> gordonDrogon: yeah
[16:20] <gordonDrogon> ok. that's not a good thing to do. it wil lgive errors. actually fsck would normally refuse to run on a mounted filesystem.
[16:20] <EdwardIII> i think it's only mounted RO though
[16:20] <gordonDrogon> it is possible, if .. ok.
[16:20] <gordonDrogon> but that's not normally the case on a Pi - it's hard to get into single user mode with root not mounted.
[16:21] <EdwardIII> hmm, dmesg shows "Under-voltage detected"
[16:22] <gordonDrogon> Hm.
[16:22] <gordonDrogon> that's a good way to end up with sd card corruption.
[16:22] <EdwardIII> so maybe it is a power problem after all?
[16:22] <gordonDrogon> it's a good finger to point...
[16:22] <ShorTie> try 'grep power /var/log'
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[16:23] <EdwardIII> ShorTie: no results for grep -ri power /var/log/*
[16:23] <EdwardIII> i guess i should address this issue before anything else
[16:24] <gordonDrogon> good move.
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[16:26] <EdwardIII> what should i be aiming for for the A+ and touchscreen?
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[16:27] <EdwardIII> https://raspberrypi.stackexchange.com/questions/57077/official-raspberry-pi-7-inch-display-power-consumption based on this post 5A should be more than enough right? maybe this anker charger is, i dunno, crap?
[16:28] <EdwardIII> or maybe the usb cable from the psu thing to my pi can't carry it properly?
[16:28] <gordonDrogon> usb cables...
[16:28] <BurtyB> possibly both are a problem ;)
[16:28] <gordonDrogon> chargers are often not the same as power supplies..
[16:29] <gordonDrogon> odd as that may seem - proper power supplies are designed to maintain voltage until full load - chargers often don't.
[16:29] <EdwardIII> it does describe itself as a 'usb charging station'
[16:29] <shiftplusone> Does that charger have multiple usb ports or just one?
[16:29] <EdwardIII> multiple
[16:29] <EdwardIII> 5 ports
[16:29] <gordonDrogon> and most battery packs/phones don't ealyl care if the voltage is a little low as they're conditioning the voltage for the batterys anyway.
[16:30] <gordonDrogon> yes - to charge usb devices, not to power computers...
[16:30] <shiftplusone> so that's 5A total, not necessarily from a single port.
[16:30] <EdwardIII> yeah
[16:30] <EdwardIII> ok then, i'll pause this until i get the proper power supply
[16:31] <shiftplusone> if it's 5A for 5 ports, it could be designed or 1A per port. But then you'd see undervoltage warnings when you ran journalctl, which you didn't?
[16:31] <EdwardIII> just a quick query: when you say corrupting the sdcard, do you mean corrupting the FS? or the actual physical card?
[16:31] <gordonDrogon> often both.
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[16:31] <EdwardIII> shiftplusone: journalctl was really hard to read - but when i rebooted and looked in dmesg on a fresh boot i could see power warnings (typed up there ^)
[16:31] <gordonDrogon> the sd card can need pulses of high current when writing.
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[16:32] <gordonDrogon> that's often when chargers can't cope.
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[16:33] <shiftplusone> oh right yeah, you're not getting anywhere with undervoltage warnings.
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[16:35] <DanielTheFox> is it safe to short two output pins on the GPIO?
[16:35] <EdwardIII> plus i imagine the touchscreen pulls a fair amount of power
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[16:37] <shiftplusone> DanielTheFox: what happens to the current when one pin is high and another is low?
[16:38] <DanielTheFox> hmm
[16:38] <d0rm0us3> Say bye bye to pi
[16:38] <DanielTheFox> in NMOS (not the case here), the low signal would be far stronger than the high signal, pulling it down
[16:38] <DanielTheFox> in CMOS and PMOS, it'd cause some kind of short
[16:39] <DanielTheFox> nevertheless, a short
[16:39] <Khaytsus> Isn't this why you're supposed to put a resistor inline for pulldowns?
[16:40] <DanielTheFox> ok, now that i know this is unsafe for my computer
[16:40] <DanielTheFox> how do I ensure that some specific pins (namely 37 and 39) are set as inputs during boot?
[16:40] <DanielTheFox> (or 38 and 40, actually)
[16:40] <DanielTheFox> 39 is always GND)
[16:41] <shiftplusone> There's a way to do that, but I'd recommend making your application initialize the pins appropriately and making sure your circuitry can handle things until that happens.
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[16:42] <DanielTheFox> so that it won't cause a short if the computer wakes up with a jumper between 39 and 40 or 37 and 38
[16:42] <DanielTheFox> my program indeed initializes the ports properly, yes
[16:42] <DanielTheFox> i already know it works
[16:42] <DanielTheFox> and I didn't fry anything in the way
[16:42] <shiftplusone> limit the current with resistors
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[16:43] <shiftplusone> There's also this https://www.raspberrypi.org/documentation/configuration/pin-configuration.md, but there's a period of time before this kicks in.
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[16:44] <DanielTheFox> for shorting pins 39 and 40 it was easy: I set GPIO21 as input with pull-up resistor enabled, and 39 is always GND, thus, if I short these two, GND will quickly pull 40 down and return reliable information
[16:44] <DanielTheFox> 37 and 38 required an extra step: both are GPIO pins, no problem
[16:44] <DanielTheFox> one is set as output and it's throwing a LOW signal
[16:44] <DanielTheFox> the other is again an input pin, with the internal pull-up enable
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[16:45] <DanielTheFox> some old-school electronics teacher told me to prefer pull-up and drive-low since it has less chances of messing things around and it's more efficient
[16:46] <DanielTheFox> it's definitely true for NMOS, but I don't know how CMOS works (I just know that it's mostly compatible with NMOS, but not entirely)
[16:48] <DanielTheFox> does CMOS still uses open-drain collectors?
[16:52] <gordonDrogon> the Pi can sink as much current as it can source.
[16:52] <gordonDrogon> (on a gpio pin)
[16:52] <DanielTheFox> ok
[16:53] <gordonDrogon> the Pi 1B was almost protected if/when you shorted a gpio pin because the 3.3v power supply was current limited, so it would simply reboot the pi, so pins would them revert to inputs, however I'd really not like to try that on later Pi's ...
[16:54] <DanielTheFox> "so pins would them revert to inputs"
[16:54] <gordonDrogon> yes.
[16:54] <DanielTheFox> that's useful information
[16:54] <DanielTheFox> so they wake up on a "safe" configuration :D
[16:54] <gordonDrogon> however in more modern kernels with the device tree, they can subsequently revert to outputs.
[16:54] <DanielTheFox> true
[16:55] <gordonDrogon> and I'm not sure at what point during boot it happens, pre, during or after kernel load/run
[16:55] <DanielTheFox> luckily, for my exact configuration, after a reboot, only some pins (the ones necessary for the 3.5" GPIO screen) are set to outputs
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[16:56] <DanielTheFox> the pins I'm gonna short are not even remotely used for that, and are inputs
[16:56] <DanielTheFox> sudo gpio readall
[16:56] <gordonDrogon> if it's a HAT then it will contain an eeprom that gets merged into the device tree.
[16:56] <gordonDrogon> DanielTheFox, DO NOT sudo the gpio command.
[16:56] <DanielTheFox> why
[16:56] <gordonDrogon> because I designed it so that you don't have to.
[16:56] <DanielTheFox> oh, what why?
[16:56] <gordonDrogon> and it's a very bad habit to get into.
[16:56] <DanielTheFox> sorry mister
[16:56] <DanielTheFox> ;)
[16:57] <DanielTheFox> ok
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[16:58] <DanielTheFox> so the screen is not even connected
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[16:59] <DanielTheFox> it'll work if I conenct it, the drivers are ready
[16:59] <gordonDrogon> so why do you need to short 2 pins?
[16:59] <DanielTheFox> the RPi sometimes works as a router
[16:59] <DanielTheFox> input ethernet, output natted wireless
[16:59] <DanielTheFox> (I don't have proper routers anyway :) )
[17:00] <gordonDrogon> so you are using it as a switch that you can read at boot time?
[17:00] <DanielTheFox> yup
[17:00] <DanielTheFox> or actually, during rc.local (lazy mode)
[17:00] <gordonDrogon> so you just need one pin and connect that to the 0v line rather than another gpio line.
[17:00] <DanielTheFox> yes
[17:00] <gordonDrogon> then set the internal pull-up and read the pin.
[17:00] <DanielTheFox> the other pins were a proof-of-concept
[17:00] <DanielTheFox> I'm not gonna use them now
[17:00] <gordonDrogon> if you read 1, switch open, read 0, switch closed.
[17:01] <DanielTheFox> yes, I've done that
[17:01] <DanielTheFox> I came here to ask how to ensure that GPIO won't be set as input and high
[17:01] <DanielTheFox> since that'd destroy the Pi
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[17:01] <gordonDrogon> input if gine.
[17:01] <gordonDrogon> *input is fine.
[17:01] <DanielTheFox> handily, pins 39 and 40 can do exactly what you said and what I already did
[17:02] <gordonDrogon> it's output you need to be concerned with.
[17:02] <DanielTheFox> *as output and high
[17:02] <gordonDrogon> yes.
[17:02] <DanielTheFox> sorry, my fingers are chilling now
[17:02] <gordonDrogon> and you have the switch closed. so 3 things to go wrong to break the pi.
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[17:21] <aiyion> Good evening; Today I've been trying to setup my raspberry pi zero (v1.3) to run its linux from a usb msd. I tried to follow these instructions:
[17:22] <aiyion> https://github.com/raspberrypi/documentation/blob/master/hardware/raspberrypi/bootmodes/README.md#special-bootcodebin-only-boot-mode
[17:22] <aiyion> the sd card seems to work at first,
[17:23] <aiyion> the bootloader shows up, but talks about beeing unable to find the second mmcblk... partition.
[17:23] <aiyion> Is there anything else I need to put onto the fat 32 partition of the sd card, but the bootloader.bin?
[17:24] <aiyion> The Pi does find the usb msd, I even swaped if with another one, which does not change anything either.
[17:24] <aiyion> Any ideas?
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[17:26] <DanielTheFox> aiyion: using MBR or GUID? is the second partition primary or logical in an extended partition?
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[17:28] <DanielTheFox> personally, I prefer MBR with all primary partitions
[17:28] <DanielTheFox> except when dealing with MS-DOS (but that's out of scope)
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[17:39] <aiyion> DanielTheFox: actually, there is none yet?
[17:39] <aiyion> i thought the sd card would only hold one fat32 partition, with only the boatloader on it.
[17:39] <DanielTheFox> it is complaining about non-existent partition
[17:39] <DanielTheFox> because there's no second partition
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[17:40] <aiyion> indeed.
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[17:40] <DanielTheFox> there must be a parameter or setting
[17:40] <DanielTheFox> that would allow it to boot stuff
[17:40] <DanielTheFox> dunno?
[17:40] <aiyion> that was what i was thinking :)
[17:40] <aiyion> and came here :D
[17:40] <DanielTheFox> regular raspbian mostly likes having at least two partitions
[17:40] <DanielTheFox> mine has three: /boot, / and /home
[17:41] <DanielTheFox> /home is ext3 in order to attempt to increase SD card's lifetime
[17:41] <aiyion> well, I suppose the usb msd has them later on.
[17:41] <DanielTheFox> maybe it's not finding the USB device?
[17:42] <DanielTheFox> what is "MSD"?
[17:42] <aiyion> for now i put the linux iso on it, like i would to with a regualr sd card
[17:42] <aiyion> mass storage device.
[17:42] <DanielTheFox> ok
[17:42] <aiyion> usb stick / usb harddrive
[17:42] <DanielTheFox> what Pi are you using?
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[17:42] <aiyion> pi zero rev 1.3
[17:42] <DanielTheFox> ok
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[17:43] <aiyion> and it does find the usb device,
[17:43] <DanielTheFox> do you have a cmdline.txt file?
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[17:43] <DanielTheFox> (on the SD card side)
[17:43] <aiyion> no
[17:43] <DanielTheFox> ok
[17:44] <DanielTheFox> then I don't know how that bootloader works :)
[17:44] <aiyion> i thought of that, but could only find parameters to say where the root partition is to find.
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[17:44] <aiyion> And neither do I...
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[17:45] <BurtyB> you'd prob need to alter the PARTUUID= in cmdline.txt and /etc/fstab
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[17:47] <aiyion> You mean It does already read from the usb device;
[17:47] <aiyion> I did not think of that,
[17:47] <aiyion> thank you BurtyB, I will look into it and be right back.
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[17:54] <aiyion> brb, but looks awesome
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[18:04] <aiyion> BurtyB, DanielTheFox: thanks you two, the pi works as intended and now reads from an ssd instead of an sd card.
[18:04] <BurtyB> :)
[18:04] <aiyion> the archlinux on it can now update itself as often as it likes :D
[18:04] <aiyion> Have a nice evening @all
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[22:11] <defsdoor> pi4 info leaks yet ?
[22:11] <DanielTheFox> why?
[22:11] <DanielTheFox> every model is so neat
[22:12] <DanielTheFox> each has its own userbase
[22:12] <Habbie> defsdoor, no
[22:12] <DanielTheFox> and usecase
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[22:41] <Snert_> I just hope they never drop the onboard hardwire enet.
[22:41] <Snert_> and adapt the board for native poe - jumper selectable mebbe.
[22:41] <Habbie> that seems niche
[22:41] <Habbie> they already made it easy to add poe in a hat on the pi3
[22:41] <Habbie> but, predictions are close to useless
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[22:42] <Snert_> I have several of the navolabs poe boards - best choice so far.
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[22:42] <Snert_> but it needs to be native.
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[22:43] <Snert_> even if they won't do poe I think it's a mistake to lose the hardwire network
[22:44] <Habbie> why?
[22:44] <Snert_> in a word - reliability
[22:45] <Habbie> i don't see how a hat couldn't do the same
[22:45] <Habbie> or something with a robust usb plug
[22:45] <Snert_> being not subject to the foibles of 802.11 wireless.
[22:45] <Habbie> like that, sure
[22:45] <Habbie> i always prefer wired over wireless
[22:45] <Habbie> that doesn't mean the pi has to do it out of the box
[22:46] <Snert_> maybe a base pi and a pi with benefits.
[22:46] <Habbie> maybe
[22:46] <Habbie> again, speculation is pretty useless :)
[22:47] <Snert_> yes it is, given the adherence to cost
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[22:52] <DanielTheFox> and I keep telling to myself that for 45 USD (what I paid for it, actually) was an amazing price for such a small and capable computer
[22:52] <DanielTheFox> s/for//
[22:53] <DanielTheFox> err, nothing
[22:53] <Snert_> I love them.
[22:54] <Snert_> I have Beaglehate now because they dropped the onboard enet
[22:54] <Snert_> switching over.
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[22:54] <Tenkawa> each board has its own purpose
[22:54] <Snert_> indeed.
[22:56] <Tenkawa> I had a really powerful FriendlyElec board.. problem was it melted a transistor two days after I bought it just sitting idle
[22:56] <Tenkawa> so you never know whats going to happen
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[22:57] <DanielTheFox> considering I own a questionable heatplant called "Lenovo Thinkcentre", it's no surprise I look at the Pi and glance and squee at its size as if it was a kitty
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[23:32] <DanielTheFox> gordonDrogon: http://www.danielthefox.com/mp4/pintest.mp4
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[23:37] <DanielTheFox> at least my 3DS has microphone
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[23:45] <gordonDrogon> why are you using sudo to read pins?
[23:46] <DanielTheFox> wiringPi
[23:46] <DanielTheFox> it's not a script: it's a C program!
[23:46] <gordonDrogon> and?
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[23:46] <gordonDrogon> wiringPi doesn't need sudo to read pins.
[23:46] <DanielTheFox> and apparently wiringPi mostly demands me to use sudo
[23:46] <gordonDrogon> no, it doesn't.
[23:47] <DanielTheFox> ok
[23:47] <DanielTheFox> recent update?
[23:47] <gordonDrogon> I changed it a few years back.
[23:47] <gordonDrogon> when the /dev/gpiomem thing came out - all you need sudo for now is PWM
[23:47] <gordonDrogon> as long as you are in the gpio group it will work for you. it will tell you if you need to use sudo.
[23:49] <DanielTheFox> oh
[23:49] <DanielTheFox> ok
[23:49] <DanielTheFox> I was not in the gpio group
[23:49] <DanielTheFox> :P
[23:49] <DanielTheFox> I put myself in all the groups the user pu was
[23:49] <DanielTheFox> *pi
[23:49] <gordonDrogon> ok. good idea.
[23:50] <DanielTheFox> in order to attempt to solve some audio problem
[23:50] <DanielTheFox> it was about a week ago
[23:50] <gordonDrogon> and thanks for using wiringPi :-)
[23:50] <DanielTheFox> nice timing :P
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[23:50] <DanielTheFox> thanks for a fancy and easy to use library then :D
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[23:51] <gordonDrogon> and on that note, I'm off to bed..
[23:51] <gordonDrogon> Zzz
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[23:51] <DanielTheFox> ok, good night
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[23:57] <ali1234> yes, of course
[23:57] <ali1234> oops wrong window
[23:58] <DanielTheFox> scream on the other window, please

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