#raspberrypi IRC Log

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IRC Log for 2019-02-02

Timestamps are in GMT/BST.

[0:01] * Arcaelyx (~Arcaelyx@cpe-184-152-1-126.nyc.res.rr.com) Quit (Read error: Connection reset by peer)
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[1:23] <DanielTheFox> thanks developers for the overscan feature
[1:25] <DanielTheFox> turns out that some very cheap/bad HDMI TVs (either given by our government randomly to poor people or just extremely cheap ones) actually have overscan when you put HDMI stuff on them
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[1:56] <jakes> hi folks
[1:56] <DanielTheFox> hello
[1:57] <jakes> getting a lot of weirdness running oVPN on my FreeNAS. how does it faire on a RasPi?
[1:57] <jakes> wondering re AES hardware support
[1:58] <DanielTheFox> the CPU can't do AES encryption on its own
[1:58] <DanielTheFox> nevertheless, you can write software libraries that do it for you
[1:58] <DanielTheFox> or ask the GPU to do so
[1:59] <DanielTheFox> 700 MHz ought to be enough for anybody
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[2:00] <jakes> was wondering if there wasn't a stable implementation already available. seems an obvious use-case
[2:00] <jakes> stuff I've LMGTFY relating to the topic are a few years old
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[2:01] <DanielTheFox> unfortunately I'm not even sure of how AES works, further than knowing it's encryption
[2:01] <jakes> AES may be a red herring/goosechase. just general hardware support
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[2:04] * DanielTheFox is also too old-school to use OpenVPN, he uses unencrypted PPTP networks mostly for simple and compatible tunneling
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[2:30] <Khaytsus> pptp sucks though
[2:32] <DanielTheFox> not to be used in production environments
[2:32] <DanielTheFox> but mine is not a production environment
[2:32] <DanielTheFox> and it doesn't even reach the public internet
[2:32] <Khaytsus> I used it eons ago.. meh
[2:33] <Khaytsus> I used to use openswan and that kind of interchangably before WPA
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[3:02] <DanielTheFox> Khaytsus: horrible footage of my horrible workplace: http://www.danielthefox.com/mp4/workplace.mp4
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[3:07] <DanielTheFox> it's night, my lightbulbs are two incandescent 75W about four metres up, my best camera is a goddamn Nintendo 3DS, my pulse is far from remarkable or even useful
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[11:08] <gordonDrogon> when not using openVpn, I use vtun - which is lightweight and fast - however it needs access to the tun/tap devices which sometimes aren't present on remote VPS type servers.
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[12:10] <Fulgen> Is there a way I can rotate the Pi's HDMI screen output with xrandr or similar? I want to be able to rotate my screen from landscape to portrait mode while booted, so display_rotate is not an option
[12:11] <Fulgen> I tried xrandr --output default --rotate left, but it says "output default cannot use rotation "left" reflection "none""
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[12:17] <gordonDrogon> I've never tried rotation, however I use ARandR - which is a GUI version of xrandr when I'm playing with dual-screen on my desktop - it might be easier to use?
[12:18] <gordonDrogon> then again, just tried it - no rotation options for my desktop system.
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[12:20] <celSKE> hi all, anyone had experience with interfacing an arduino with a rpi over serial UART?
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[12:27] <Habbie> celSKE, i'm sure many people do - just ask your question
[12:29] <celSKE> i'm writing values from the arduino to the rpi, i can see the values on the rpi however the values do not update with the latest; thinking it may be a timing issue, the py script requires to be restarted before reading the updated values..
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[12:29] <Fulgen> hm, more googling indicates rotating from xrandr isn't possible :/
[12:32] <gordonDrogon> celSKE, use serial or direct to the on-board 3.3v uartt?
[12:33] <celSKE> direct via gpio pins
[12:33] <Fulgen> rip GPIO pin
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[12:34] <gordonDrogon> ok - well arduino 5v, Pi 3.3v, however maybe you're coping with that.
[12:35] <gordonDrogon> also - the Pi uart has a small input buffer, so maybe this is overflowing and you're losing data.
[12:35] <gordonDrogon> I strongly recommend using a usb serial adapter then you can power the arduino too.
[12:35] <Fulgen> gordonDrogon: can't you power the arduino from Pi's 5V Pin?
[12:36] <gordonDrogon> sure-, but if you use a usb serial line, then it just happens by magic.
[12:36] <Fulgen> ah
[12:36] <gordonDrogon> and you never need to touch the Pi's gpio pins at all.
[12:36] <celSKE> i'm using an alamode board - mounts directly onto the rpi
[12:38] <gordonDrogon> ok. I'm not familiar with it.
[12:38] <celSKE> if i only utilise one value and adequate delays it seems fine - maybe the buffer is overloaded
[12:38] <gordonDrogon> however it's likely the Pi uart dropping data.
[12:38] <celSKE> i'll dig a little deeper, thanks
[12:38] <gordonDrogon> any reason to not use the Pi GPIO directly than use an Arduino? Just curious about the application..
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[12:39] <celSKE> tbh purely out of interest of using an arduino type board, never used one before, thought it'd be a nice little project with a few complexities
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[12:40] <gordonDrogon> ok
[12:41] <gordonDrogon> https://www.seeedstudio.com/Alamode-Arduino-Compatible-Raspberry-Pi-Plate-p-1285.html
[12:41] <gordonDrogon> that one?
[12:42] <celSKE> yeah corret
[12:42] <gordonDrogon> costs the same as a Pi :-)
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[12:47] <celSKE> :)
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[13:50] <celSKE> figured out that as soon as I put any delay in the python code retrieving the data on the serial link, it holds the last values and won't refresh :S
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[13:58] <gordonDrogon> is this a Pi3?
[13:59] <gordonDrogon> I stopped using the on-board serial due to the swap to the 2nd serial device as the other was now used for the bluetooth thing.
[13:59] <gordonDrogon> and from what I understand there are issue with it losing data at higher speeds - so you might want to crank the speed down if it's possible - 4800 baud?
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[14:01] <celSKE> yeah pi3, currently using 9600
[14:02] <gordonDrogon> could you write something in C - so maybe a bit faster to suck the data out?
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[16:48] <mlelstv> the second serial device isn't that bad.
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[17:47] <Fulgen> trying out vc4, however, with both kms and fake kms, Xorg segfaults at startup: https://termbin.com/k6hj any ideas how I can get this fixed? mesa is installed
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[17:51] <Fulgen> it's a Raspberr Pi 3B running the arm7h Arch Linux ARM image
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[18:09] <Fulgen> starting X with sudo Xorg doesn't crash though, but any other way (xdm, startxfce4) does
[18:09] <DanielTheFox> cheese appears to give segfaults here too
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[18:11] <Fulgen> cheese?
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[18:18] <DanielTheFox> some program that supposedly allows you to take photos with a webcam
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[18:20] <Fulgen> ah
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[18:30] <aos> hi everyone I have a question
[18:30] <DanielTheFox> ask it
[18:30] <aos> i've set up my pi to act as a web server. I forwarded 80 and 443 to the pi
[18:31] <aos> i'm a little hesitant about that tho
[18:31] <DanielTheFox> why?
[18:31] <aos> is there anything i can do security-wise to make sure it's safe?
[18:31] <DanielTheFox> make sure of two things
[18:31] <DanielTheFox> 1. Forward only the ports you need
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[18:32] <DanielTheFox> 2. Check everything that runs on the only ports you have there
[18:32] <DanielTheFox> so they don't have security holes themselves
[18:32] <DanielTheFox> this is critical if you have server-side scripting
[18:32] <aos> Yeah right now i've only set up nginx to host a static site, but I plan on extending it to be a reverse proxy
[18:33] <DanielTheFox> ok, then it's alright
[18:33] <aos> for other services
[18:33] <DanielTheFox> will you use remote SSH?
[18:33] <DanielTheFox> or only gonna work with it physically?
[18:33] <DanielTheFox> (or locally)
[18:33] <aos> So I set that up already, i opened some random high port and mapped it to the pi's 22
[18:33] <DanielTheFox> ok
[18:34] <aos> DanielTheFox: thanks a lot :)
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[18:34] <DanielTheFox> for lazy people: you only need to keep your software updated and put strong passwords (and disable/delete default pi account), and even if your SSH is on port 22, it'll be still unvoidable
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[18:35] <DanielTheFox> for paranoic people: do not use numbers that reference "22" (some people put 2022, 8022, 22022, 22000), and disable password auth, so you forcefully need the keys
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[18:37] <aos> Yeah i'm paranoid lol... disabled passwords, only allowed keys, and the port is some super high random number
[18:38] <aos> disabling passwords makes it somewhat of a pain for creating new users but it's worth it
[18:38] <DanielTheFox> the paranoid approach is better for production servers
[18:38] <DanielTheFox> regular home servers and VPS can harmlessly use the lazy approach and still get with it
[18:39] <DanielTheFox> again, keep your software updated and use strong but easy passwords
[18:39] <DanielTheFox> some xkcd comic made a joke about it, where easy-to-memorize long passwords were far safer than short cryptic passwords
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[19:21] <Lartza> I mean port changing helps nothing
[19:21] <Lartza> I run with keys only, but on 22
[19:21] <Lartza> semi-production though
[19:21] <Lartza> Port scanning your server takes no time at all, running something else than 22 just reduces some logspam
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[19:27] <gordonDrogon> once upon a time I used to run a small hosting company with 100's of servers and virtual servers out there... moving ssh, while security via obscurity reduced the ssh attacks to zero. Like in years of doing this, no-one ever probed anything other than the usual ports. not saying this is perfect, but maybe no-one thought I was valuable enough :-|
[19:27] <CoJaBo> gordonDrogon: Depends on your attack scenario
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[19:28] <CoJaBo> gordonDrogon: Changing port will eliminate basically 100% of skid attacks, since they can scan far more servers by sticking only to 22
[19:28] <CoJaBo> But if you have a targetted attack, they will scan every port
[19:29] <gordonDrogon> I'm fully aware of this, however - maybe I just got lucky...
[19:29] <CoJaBo> Not having stupid passwords would also eliminate 100% of skid attacks, so the benefit is mostly in (drastically) reduced logspam
[19:29] <gordonDrogon> not having passwords ...
[19:29] <CoJaBo> gordonDrogon: Targetted attacks are exceedingly rare, so that's probably why lol
[19:30] <CoJaBo> gordonDrogon: Place I work gets a couple a month, but they have far more than hundreds of sites (I once shut down over a million domains lol)
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[19:31] <gordonDrogon> yea, statistics ...
[19:31] <CoJaBo> Political sites tend to get a lot of action tho; the hub of a revolution that made primetime news was hosted with us
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[19:32] <gordonDrogon> oops :)
[19:32] <CoJaBo> That was pretty much under constant assault, DDoS attacks pretty much continuously overlapping lol
[19:32] <CoJaBo> It never got hacked tho =D
[19:34] <gordonDrogon> I had a couple of ddos attacks - other than sipvicious, there were a few forums where people would get colourful and a script kiddie would have a go.
[19:36] <CoJaBo> Skids gonna skid
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[19:37] <CoJaBo> gordonDrogon: We actually got to run counter-attacks a couple of times; wasn't particularly successful, but we managed to crash quite a few badly-coded bots
[19:37] <CoJaBo> It's amusing to watch the logs.. Deploy counter-measure, and the requests start coming in slower, and slower, and then silence..
[19:38] <gordonDrogon> nice.
[19:38] <gordonDrogon> sipvicious was a baddie when I did a lot of VoIP. it would go on for days and days and days ...
[19:39] <gordonDrogon> easy to block as it would come from one IP address, but client sites who paid for their bandwidth would be crippled.
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[19:39] <CoJaBo> I also once out-skid'd a skid. That one was particularly fun :P
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[19:40] <gordonDrogon> I don't miss not running the ISP stuff.
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[19:42] <CoJaBo> gordonDrogon: One of the most amusing countermeasures I deployed was on one of their really basic hosting sites
[19:42] <CoJaBo> gordonDrogon: It was mostly just file hosting, but would allow simple HTML only pages
[19:43] <CoJaBo> We kept getting stupid amounts of skid shells tho, which were creating too much account spam, so I modified the upload handler to detect most common shells, and if detected, redirect the user to the FBI Cybercrime Homepage
[19:43] <CoJaBo> =D
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[19:47] <gordonDrogon> I did nice one for a VoIP sales company that wouldn't go away - I hairpinned their call to their own 0800 (free) number when the system recognised one of their own numbers.
[19:47] <gordonDrogon> even then, it took them a week to stop calling.
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[19:47] <CoJaBo> lol
[19:48] <CoJaBo> gordonDrogon: I've also screwed with phone scammers a lot
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[19:49] <CoJaBo> gordonDrogon: I did the thing where I try to convince them I'm their tech support, their phone is broken and the call went to me instead of a victim
[19:49] <CoJaBo> gordonDrogon: I've thus far gotten 2 to fall for it =D
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[19:50] <DanielTheFox> CoJaBo: I did the same
[19:50] <DanielTheFox> except there were PHP shells being uploaded
[19:51] <DanielTheFox> my server can do PHP but it's disabled where regular users can write files
[19:51] <DanielTheFox> and thus, if they try to run that, they get redirected to FBI homepage
[19:51] <CoJaBo> =D
[19:51] <gordonDrogon> https://unicorn.drogon.net/you-are-not-the-next-caller.mp3
[19:52] <CoJaBo> DanielTheFox: This one didn't even have PHP installed; the annoying bit was the shell would just upload as plain HTML, so they'd keep creating new accounts over and over again trying to find a "working" shell
[19:52] <CoJaBo> The redirect discoraged this :P
[19:52] <DanielTheFox> lol, yeah
[19:53] <CoJaBo> I then got one who freaked out
[19:53] <CoJaBo> I happened to spot him in the logs about half an hour into frantically trying to delete the shell he'd uploaded
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[19:53] <CoJaBo> But every attempt at doing this would just kick him back to the FBI Cybercrime Homapage
[19:54] <CoJaBo> DanielTheFox: He started like, copying parameters or something from the URL of nother site he had a shell on, trying to do it manually I guess.. But he pasted in that URL without clearing the address bar. So I saw it on my logs......
[19:55] <CoJaBo> I cracked his password, it was "Adminer"
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[19:55] <CoJaBo> Literally just googled the MD5 hash lol
[19:55] <DanielTheFox> and so you hacked him back
[19:55] <DanielTheFox> :P
[19:55] <gordonDrogon> that would be slightly illegal in the UK where I am, however...
[19:56] <CoJaBo> Yep. Logged into his other shell..... and redirected it to the FBI Cybercrime Homepage.
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[19:56] <CoJaBo> Legality be damned, it was funny when he hit that ONCE and stopped ALL activity
[19:57] <CoJaBo> I like to imagine he went full-on Mr Robot, smashed open his PC and microwaved every component thinking the FBI was hot on his tail
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[19:58] <DanielTheFox> glad I at least attempted to learn how hardware works
[19:58] <DanielTheFox> even if it was true, it'd be easy to guess out that a magnet onto the hard disk drive is enough
[19:59] <DanielTheFox> that would require reinstalling the whole OS, but no worries
[19:59] <Fulgen> and nuke every single file
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[19:59] <CoJaBo> The magnets thing is overblown
[19:59] <CoJaBo> Stick a floppy disk to a fridge with a magnet, and see if you can read it afterwards
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[20:00] <DanielTheFox> it can't erase it just right there on the moment
[20:00] <DanielTheFox> it actually requires the magnet being close for more time
[20:00] <DanielTheFox> maybe a whole day?
[20:00] <DanielTheFox> but you don't even need the magnet
[20:01] <CoJaBo> It..... won't work, but that's only because the disk was bad before the magnet :P
[20:01] <CoJaBo> i If you find a working disk, the magnet won't hurt it no matter how long you leave it there
[20:02] <CoJaBo> DanielTheFox: you need something stronger than a standard fridge magnet, else it'll do nothing at all
[20:02] <DanielTheFox> obviously a fridge magnet won't work
[20:03] <DanielTheFox> hopefully you have better magnets
[20:03] <DanielTheFox> such as a car speaker magnet
[20:03] <DanielTheFox> or any large speaker magnet
[20:03] <CoJaBo> Neodymium might work for a floppy. Good luck removing it from the fridge tho :P
[20:04] * DanielTheFox is against using magnets on fridges altogether
[20:04] <CoJaBo> Not all speaker magnets are neodymium tho; I've used disks stored next to speakers, they work fine
[20:06] <CoJaBo> HDDs are even heartier; there's a Big neodymium magnet right there at the edge of the patters
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[20:07] <DanielTheFox> now that I've learned that RPi's are awesome
[20:07] <DanielTheFox> I want more and more o' them
[20:07] <DanielTheFox> particularly, I want a Pi Zero W
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[20:07] <DanielTheFox> for a portable wireless access point or something portable
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[20:09] <CoJaBo> I like that the pi will crash if you take a pic of it :P
[20:10] <Fulgen> *Pi2
[20:10] <gordonDrogon> I have some 40-year old 5.25" floppys that are working just fine ...
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[20:10] <gordonDrogon> fears of their demise are often overestimated :)
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[20:16] <gordonDrogon> (however, before someone says it; yes, I have backups!)
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[20:23] <DanielTheFox> horror
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[20:23] <DanielTheFox> Pi Zero W comes out of the UK, 10 USD
[20:24] <DanielTheFox> price here in Mexico, 25 USD
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[20:24] <DanielTheFox> I could have expected 15 USD
[20:24] <gordonDrogon> think yourself lucky you're not in Brazil ...
[20:25] <DanielTheFox> yeah
[20:25] <DanielTheFox> the most expensive model is the one with the least overhead
[20:25] <gordonDrogon> I heard it's much worse there..
[20:25] <DanielTheFox> :P
[20:25] <DanielTheFox> like
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[20:25] <DanielTheFox> I bought mine, 45 USD
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[20:25] <DanielTheFox> just 10 USD over the official price given by the fundation
[20:26] <gordonDrogon> so home on holiday to the UK and take home a suitcase full :)
[20:27] <DanielTheFox> yeah
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[20:27] <DanielTheFox> customized shipping will be *a little* more expensive tho
[20:27] <DanielTheFox> since shipping includes a whole family :>
[20:27] <DanielTheFox> round-trip
[20:28] <gordonDrogon> well... :)
[20:28] <DanielTheFox> I should steal a bank and buy bulk from the USA
[20:28] <DanielTheFox> hopefully the prices are less insane there for the smaller models
[20:28] <gordonDrogon> or just drive to the USA?
[20:29] <DanielTheFox> can't
[20:29] <gordonDrogon> Hm.
[20:29] <DanielTheFox> I'm actually a few dozen miles to Guatemala
[20:29] <DanielTheFox> :P
[20:29] <gordonDrogon> I can't visualise that - don't know the geography there too well - but I guess very far south?
[20:29] <DanielTheFox> that, and the uber expensive visitor visas
[20:29] <DanielTheFox> gordonDrogon: quite
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[20:30] <gordonDrogon> ok
[20:30] <DanielTheFox> it's more like being canadian and having to cross north-south USA to get in Mexico
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[20:30] <DanielTheFox> shipping from USA is rather expensive, it's actually more expensive (although faster) than from China
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[20:30] <gordonDrogon> ah righ - I just pulled up a map. bigger than I thought.
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[20:31] <gordonDrogon> closest I've been in Costa Rica.
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[20:55] <puff> Good evening, I'm setting up raspbian on a microSD card, using ubuntu linux for my desktop machine. When I did this previously, two partitions showed up, boot and rootfs. Now I'm only seeing boot.
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[20:56] <puff> Maybe it has to be booted up in a pi before rootfs shows up?
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[20:56] <puff> Also, I'm setting this up for use in a pi 3b but what I have handy is a pi zero w, if I boot it up for the first time in the pi zero w, will that cause any problems when I later put it in the pi 3b?
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[20:57] <Khaytsus> puff: it takes about a minute or so, max
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[20:59] <gordonDrogon> puff, if you'fe just used dd then eject the SD and plug it in to your linux system again to see both partitions.
[21:00] <Khaytsus> That too... not going to see the new partitions
[21:01] <BurtyB> puff, might be worth checking their docs if you haven't already as some need different images for the different hardware versions (if they support them at all)
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[21:01] <hodapp> I thought Linux had forced re-read of the partition table for, like, 10+ years now o_O
[21:01] <Khaytsus> not with like dd.....
[21:01] <Khaytsus> fdisk etc, yeah
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[21:03] <hodapp> Khaytsus: btw, you ever see my question days ago about boards that could accomodate clusters of compute modules?
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[21:03] <hodapp> Khaytsus: you'd mentioned them and I was curious if you meant ones that were commercially out there
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[21:03] <hodapp> versus just one-off hobby projects
[21:03] <Khaytsus> hodapp: It was just an idle curiousity
[21:03] <uriah> I think that would be a cool DIY project
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[21:04] <hodapp> Khaytsus: ah, nothing in production then?
[21:04] <hodapp> uriah: some folks have DIYed it. I guess fabbing a board wouldn't be that expensive but you'd have to contend with what sort of interconnect you'd want
[21:04] <Khaytsus> Oh, I saw a few... someone commented it on it immeidately after actually, one that holds like.. 16 of those CM boards
[21:04] <uriah> I ideally would want a 100x cm3+_lite cluster... but $$$
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[21:05] <uriah> hodapp: yeah board design would be key, and I wonder how hard it would be to solder on 100 sodimm slots
[21:05] <hodapp> uriah: yeahhhhh I'd pay somebody to do that
[21:06] <uriah> well who?
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[21:06] <uriah> are there pcb fabs that offer soldering that kind of stuff?
[21:06] <hodapp> yeah, including little small-run stuff. I've used them
[21:07] <d0rm0us3> https://www.4pcb.com/landing-page-1.html?gclid=EAIaIQobChMI86Ta4Oyd4AIV4P_jBx1bqACUEAAYASAAEgJtZfD_BwE
[21:07] <uriah> afaik you get a pcb printed and the rest is your problem :-/
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[21:07] <uriah> hmm, cool then.
[21:07] <hodapp> sure, plenty of places do just the PCB
[21:08] <uriah> cool d0rm0us3 ty
[21:08] <d0rm0us3> you are quite welcome
[21:08] <hodapp> I used circuithub for one board of this sort
[21:08] <hodapp> years back though
[21:09] <uriah> cool
[21:09] <uriah> I think my next pi purchase will be the development kit
[21:09] <uriah> for cm3+
[21:10] <uriah> if I have not too much trouble with this, I'll then try designing a board etc
[21:10] <hodapp> have you ever done PCB design before?
[21:11] <uriah> nope
[21:11] <puff> gordonDrogon: I used etcher.
[21:11] <puff> gordonDrogon: I unplugged the microSD card and replugged it, boot partition showed up but not rootfs.
[21:11] <gordonDrogon> puff, ok. no idea. I don't use etcher. dd is a few letters less to type..
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[21:12] <uriah> hodapp: but rpi foundation have docs for certain purposes
[21:12] <uriah> I can calculate and fill in the blanks
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[21:13] <hodapp> uriah: they do but this tends to be guidelines for people who have already done PCB design and need to know some specifics of some parts they use
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[21:14] <puff> gordonDrogon: Thanks. sudo fdisk -l shows /dev/sde1, 43.9M, W95 FAT32 (LBA) and /dev/sde2, 4.9G, Linux.
[21:15] <puff> gordonDrogon: /dev/sde is 29.7 GiB which is about the right size for that microSD card.
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[21:15] <uriah> hodapp: ok :) well ... it can be a long-term learning effort for me then
[21:15] <puff> Okay, and *now* rootfs magically shows up in thunar. I wonder if it was the fdisk command.
[21:15] <uriah> hodapp: I mean I'm patient and open to learning new stuff *sometimes* ... when I'm not stuck compiling
[21:17] <uriah> so maybe someday
[21:17] <gordonDrogon> puff, stick it in the Pi and boot it then..
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[22:57] <aos> anyone with some networking experience around?
[22:57] <DanielTheFox> somewhat me?
[22:57] <DanielTheFox> (but mostly physical networks, not really VPN)
[22:58] <aos> it's basic stuff, but i'm running into some hurdles =[
[22:58] <DanielTheFox> ok, what's the problem
[22:59] <aos> i setup an nginx server on the pi but I can't seem to reach it from outside the local network
[22:59] <aos> I forwarded 80 and 443 to the pi from the router
[22:59] <DanielTheFox> how do you know you forwarded it correctly to the Pi?
[22:59] <aos> Hmm... how do I go about testing that?
[23:00] <aos> I know my ssh forward works
[23:00] <DanielTheFox> ok
[23:00] <DanielTheFox> so SSH works...
[23:00] <DanielTheFox> but nginx doesn't
[23:00] <DanielTheFox> ok, we discard a DHCP messup
[23:00] <aos> Nope, but if i do a `curl localhost` from inside the network i get the default nginx page
[23:01] <aos> so i know nginx is working locally
[23:01] <aos> I thought maybe my isp is blocking inbound 80 and 443
[23:01] <DanielTheFox> aos: never
[23:01] <aos> so i tried forwarding port 8080 to the pi's 80
[23:01] <DanielTheFox> instead, try pinging from another computer (in the LAN) to the web server
[23:01] <DanielTheFox> say
[23:02] <DanielTheFox> if the Pi is 192.168.2.4, ping 192.168.2.4
[23:02] <DanielTheFox> (from another computer)
[23:02] <DanielTheFox> localhost should NOT work like that unless you're doing it on the Pi itself
[23:02] <aos> oh
[23:02] <aos> Yeah I am
[23:02] <DanielTheFox> (otherwise you're accessing that computer's nginx web server)
[23:02] <aos> sorry
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[23:03] <aos> Shoulda been specific
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[23:03] <DanielTheFox> aos: anyway
[23:04] <DanielTheFox> open a browser from any computer in the LAN and type in the URL bar the local Pi's IP address
[23:04] <DanielTheFox> does it work?
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[23:12] <aos> DanielTheFox: so it looks like I do hit the default page from within the network
[23:12] <aos> But from a different computer
[23:12] <aos> So nginx is working correctly
[23:17] <DanielTheFox> ok
[23:17] <DanielTheFox> hmm, what else could be wrong...
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[23:18] <aos> Could the ISP be blocking inbound port 80?
[23:18] <DanielTheFox> it's probable
[23:18] <DanielTheFox> many asshole ISPs block port 80
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[23:18] <aos> How do I test that? forward a random router port to the Pi's port 80?
[23:18] <DanielTheFox> (sorry for my word choice, but that's pretty much my feeling about port blockers)
[23:19] <DanielTheFox> aos: yes
[23:19] <DanielTheFox> say...
[23:19] <DanielTheFox> 10080
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[23:19] <DanielTheFox> if it works, you'll know why :)
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[23:20] <aos> Alrighty
[23:20] <aos> Moment of truth
[23:20] <aos> Nooooo
[23:20] <aos> It works
[23:21] <DanielTheFox> nuuuuuuuu
[23:21] <DanielTheFox> horror!
[23:21] <DanielTheFox> plain horror before our eyes!
[23:21] <aos> a great sadness =[
[23:21] <aos> maybe the router has some firewall settings on... lemme dig in there
[23:22] <DanielTheFox> that's a last resource, yes
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[23:22] <DanielTheFox> as a very last resource, ask the ISP tech support (or find out in their FAQ or contract license, if any) if port 80 works
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[23:25] <DanielTheFox> hmm
[23:26] <DanielTheFox> if I connect the Pi Zero W to a computer (attempting to use its gadget mode), do I connect the miniUSB side to the POWER port or the OTG port?
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[23:28] <uriah> DanielTheFox: i don't quite know but in the past designs the power port was strictly for power. uncertain about the pi0w though
[23:28] <DanielTheFox> ok
[23:28] <DanielTheFox> hence why I asked
[23:29] <DanielTheFox> I don't have a pi0 to test
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[23:29] <DanielTheFox> yet I still want to know
[23:29] <DanielTheFox> lol
[23:29] <DanielTheFox> I'm seeing aos' test website
[23:29] <DanielTheFox> on the port 10080 I suggested him
[23:30] <DanielTheFox> :P
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[23:30] <DanielTheFox> aos: rebooted your router? :)
[23:30] <DanielTheFox> I can see your test website
[23:30] <aos> :D
[23:30] <DanielTheFox> http://ool-182c2a5e.dyn.optonline.net:10080
[23:31] <aos> That's great
[23:31] <aos> That's the test port
[23:31] <DanielTheFox> yeah
[23:31] <aos> Haven't tried with port 80 yet
[23:31] <aos> haven't rebooted the router tho cause other people are using the internet atm
[23:31] <DanielTheFox> I didn't know you were gonna follow my exact port suggestion
[23:31] <aos> lol
[23:31] <DanielTheFox> ok
[23:32] <DanielTheFox> aos: btw, what model of Pi are you using?
[23:32] <aos> 3 B
[23:32] <DanielTheFox> lol, close enough
[23:32] <DanielTheFox> I'm using a 3 B+
[23:32] <aos> Why do u ask
[23:32] <DanielTheFox> as a prank router
[23:32] <aos> prank router?
[23:32] <DanielTheFox> yes
[23:33] <DanielTheFox> it's set to be a wireless access point
[23:33] <aos> oh -- for random people to connect to?
[23:33] <DanielTheFox> and its SSID reads "INTERNET_GRATIS" (spanish for "FREE_INTERNET")
[23:33] <DanielTheFox> yes
[23:33] <aos> lmao
[23:34] <DanielTheFox> it has a small set of prank sites
[23:34] <DanielTheFox> that show up when the user wants to use non-HTTPS google, facebook or youtube
[23:34] <DanielTheFox> https is hard to spoof this way, so I just let those timeout
[23:34] <DanielTheFox> the best part is that it HAS internet access
[23:34] <DanielTheFox> but it requires some technical measures
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[23:35] <aos> hahaha that sounds like a fun project
[23:35] <DanielTheFox> to my knowledge, nobody in my town (yet) is tech-savvy enough to change the DNS server
[23:35] <DanielTheFox> which would ruin the whole prank
[23:36] <aos> wait so they get on your pi's wifi
[23:36] <DanielTheFox> yes
[23:36] <DanielTheFox> they connect to the Pi
[23:36] <aos> but when they try to access http:// it redirects them to some prank sites
[23:36] <DanielTheFox> yes
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[23:36] <DanielTheFox> actually, it just redirects google, facebook and youtube
[23:36] <aos> how do you go about doing that?
[23:36] <DanielTheFox> and it silently blocks WhatsApp
[23:36] <DanielTheFox> aos: DNS poisoning
[23:37] <DanielTheFox> I lie those cellphones about what DNS records point to
[23:37] <DanielTheFox> affected sites point to the Pi itself
[23:37] <DanielTheFox> instead of going to the actual IP addresses they should go to
[23:38] <DanielTheFox> Wikipedia, for instance, isn't blocked
[23:38] <DanielTheFox> since, more than just pranking people around, I discourage them from "misusing" internet through facebook or youtube
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[23:39] <aos> DanielTheFox: that sounds like a lot of fun to implement
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[23:39] <aos> So since the dns is "cached", does that mean when they disconnect from your network and reconnect to another it uses the same entries?
[23:39] <DanielTheFox> nope
[23:40] <DanielTheFox> Android cellphones are smart enough to flush their cache when they change networks
[23:40] <aos> Awww lol
[23:40] <aos> tho that might be a bit malicious at that point
[23:40] <DanielTheFox> but there are lots of dumb people hungry for free internet
[23:41] <DanielTheFox> actively looking for free internet stuff
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[23:42] <DanielTheFox> DNS poisoning and fake WiFi access points can be used for malicious purposes
[23:42] <DanielTheFox> quite not anymore since https, but it still has its uses
[23:42] <aos> Yeah i can totally imagine
[23:43] <aos> Part of the reason why I want to set up a VPN on the pi
[23:43] <DanielTheFox> since I'm not that evil, I just want to prank random freeloaders around
[23:44] <DanielTheFox> also, they'll leave user agents around the place
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[23:45] <DanielTheFox> Android web user agents often leave information such as phone brand and model, OS version and that stuff
[23:45] <DanielTheFox> so it'll also be kind of a survey of that kind
[23:45] <uriah> too bad solar needs to be pretty big for such rigs... coulda battery powered it and left/hidden it somewhere
[23:46] <uriah> too noticeable
[23:46] <DanielTheFox> my Pi is being powered with a regular cellphone emergency powerbank
[23:46] <DanielTheFox> I'll be happy if it lasts 10 hours
[23:46] <aos> DanielTheFox: I think that would be fun to collect logs on these things and just survey your local area
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[23:47] <aos> Not that this information is really of any value to you but hey
[23:47] <uriah> ah nice. but it would be nice to have some way of timing on -> procedure -> off -> wait -> repeat
[23:47] <DanielTheFox> aos: indeed
[23:47] <uriah> so it lasts longer and can be charged via solar reliably
[23:47] <DanielTheFox> there was a SleepyPi HAT for that, IIRC
[23:48] <uriah> cool
[23:48] <uriah> includes rtc?
[23:48] <DanielTheFox> yes
[23:48] <uriah> neat... dual rtc
[23:48] <uriah> (gps module)
[23:50] <uriah> unless sleepypi requires ttyAMA0
[23:50] <DanielTheFox> I haven't used it, so I can't say how that works from experience
[23:50] <uriah> or whatever uart points to
[23:50] <uriah> ok
[23:53] <DanielTheFox> aos: I actually want a Pi Zero W for that
[23:54] <DanielTheFox> instead of using the 3 B+
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[23:54] <DanielTheFox> the Zero W would be left for that purpose for extended amounts of time
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[23:54] <DanielTheFox> the 3 B+ is mostly also a personal computer
[23:55] <DanielTheFox> I coded some small program to detect if the very last two GPIO pins are being shorted with a jumper
[23:55] <DanielTheFox> if they are not connected, the computer starts as usual, like a personal computer
[23:56] <DanielTheFox> if they're shorted (the jumper is there), the computer will turn both LEDs off (for hiding it anywhere) and put itself in access point and NAT mode
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