#raspberrypi IRC Log

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IRC Log for 2019-02-07

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[0:34] <oldandwise> of the many howto docs on making RPI3B into an AP, so far 'RaspAP' worked perfectly. I haven't tried, 'Kupiki' yet, but any comments?
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[0:35] <oldandwise> there were some nice docs in raspberrypi.org about it.. but i only get half-cooked AP
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[0:39] * BurtyB followed the raspberrypi.org docs then fixed things up
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[0:40] <oldandwise> BurtyB: yeah.. sure can... they all based on same foundation..
[0:40] <oldandwise> hostapd, dnsmasq, ....
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[0:41] <oldandwise> will try to do the same in my RPI0W next....
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[0:49] <BurtyB> yeah, I ignored the dnsmasq parts as I'm familiar with dhcpd tho
[0:52] <DanielTheFox> I'm more about dnsmasq
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[7:32] <helpwithBT> howdy!
[7:32] <helpwithBT> is this an active channel?
[7:32] <mlelstv> only passive-active
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[7:33] <helpwithBT> works for me
[7:34] <helpwithBT> I was wondering if maybe somebody here would be able to give me some insight. I wrote a simple bluetooth python application for my Pi 3 b+, and when i connect using the app BlueTerm on my android phone it works fine! however, following many many different tutorials for building my own app, it just WILL not connect. i am currently using MIT App Inventor 2 and ive used the exact code from tutorial, and the code it provides for t
[7:35] <helpwithBT> "unable to connect. is the device turned on?"
[7:35] <helpwithBT> and like I said, if i connect with Blueterm, it works no issues
[7:36] <helpwithBT> any ideas at all? the app is finding the pi in the list of devices, and it attempts to pair... it just fails and I dont know why. if theres more info I can provide let me know
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[8:59] <Ben64> anyone have a link to arrow, digikey, mouser for gpio female header for pcb
[8:59] <Ben64> searching the sites hasn't worked so far
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[9:14] <Ben64> https://www.digikey.com/product-detail/en/sullins-connector-solutions/SFH11-PBPC-D20-ST-BK/S9200-ND/1990093
[9:15] <Ben64> digikey had the best search
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[9:17] <shiftplusone> that notch thingy is not going to be an issue for you?
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[9:19] <Ben64> nah
[9:19] <Ben64> it's like $0.2 more for a non notched version
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[9:19] <Ben64> crap, forgot the 1x8 headers
[9:19] <Ben64> :(
[9:21] <Ben64> arrow has free shipping but horrible search
[9:24] <shiftplusone> where are you located?
[9:26] <Ben64> california
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[9:30] <shiftplusone> ah alright
[9:30] <shiftplusone> was asking since digikey might not be a good option outside of US
[9:30] <immibis> digikey seems fine in NZ, apart from the silly export control thing
[9:31] <shiftplusone> allied and newark might be worth looking at... unless I'm thinking of Canada.
[9:31] <immibis> (they just ask you what you're using the parts for)
[9:31] <shiftplusone> immibis: yeah, I was ordering just some generic parts just to have, things like resistors, caps and so on. And they wanted to know what it's for =/
[9:32] <immibis> I don't know if they ever even read it.
[9:32] <shiftplusone> yeah
[9:32] <immibis> just put "stocking up home electronics lab" or something
[9:32] <immibis> seems like almost anything will do
[9:32] <shiftplusone> because they came back and told me what I wrote wasn't enough
[9:32] <shiftplusone> but in NZ, wouldn't element14 be cheaper when shipping is taken into account?
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[9:37] <Ben64> so hopefully all this stuff fits together
[9:37] <Ben64> never made a board before
[9:38] <shiftplusone> whatcha making?
[9:39] <Ben64> rfid control for devices
[9:39] <Ben64> been wiring everything up by hand, a board will make it waaay simpler
[9:40] <Ben64> connects pi, rfid board, regulator board, and relay all together
[9:42] <shiftplusone> Should be fine
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[9:46] <Ben64> https://imgur.com/a/jyGwvIF
[9:46] <Ben64> like so
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[9:51] <shiftplusone> ah, so an actual pcb. Thought you'd go with something like vera/stripboard to start with. Is that made with fritzing or something?
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[9:58] <Ben64> kicad
[9:58] <Ben64> not sure what vera/stripboard is
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[10:01] <immibis> it's like a breadboard but it's a PCB
[10:01] <immibis> they make a zillion holes, and connect them together in lines
[10:02] <immibis> Ben64: like this: https://www.amazon.com/Busboard-ST2-Traditional-Stripboard-Prototyping/dp/B00LLQFRAU
[10:02] <Ben64> ah ok
[10:02] <immibis> they are good for making things a bit more permanent than breadboards
[10:02] <Ben64> well i know everything works together, was just a mess of wire
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[10:02] <Ben64> i'm just worried about everything physically fitting
[10:03] <Ben64> even though i went through the hassle of making 3d models for stuff
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[10:05] <immibis> shiftplusone: dunno, but the all have free shipping over a certain amount
[10:05] <shiftplusone> kicad? I guess the diagonal regulator (or whatever it is) you've got on there made me think it was fritzing.
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[10:07] <Ben64> does fritzing do diagonal?
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[10:08] <Ben64> i rotated it a bit so it'd clear the screw block when bent down
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[10:16] <shiftplusone> I think in fritzing, if you place a trace between two points, it will just connect them directly rather than trying to stick to horizontal and vertical lines and since it's popular with beginners you get a lot of boards with randrom traces going everywher.e
[10:17] <shiftplusone> http://farm5.static.flickr.com/4077/4783529788_476c0639eb_b.jpg
[10:18] <shiftplusone> http://forum.fritzing.org/uploads/default/original/1X/17bdd0ee853544f2585f013bfa1a4fada9a04c06.png
[10:18] <shiftplusone> and so on
[10:20] <Ben64> whoa
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[10:29] <gordonDrogon> wooo, Fritzing :)
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[10:30] <gordonDrogon> whos board is that?
[10:32] <gordonDrogon> Ben64, is that your board?
[10:33] <gordonDrogon> oh well, whoever's board that is, I can lend a few moments to get it fixed up as I use Fritzing a lot, however I'm now going to be offline for a few hours, so ping me if you like.
[10:33] <Ben64> my board was posted higher up
[10:33] <immibis> shiftplusone: reminds me of old hand-drawn PCBs
[10:34] <iKarith> shiftplusone: Congrats to everyone on the new retail shop :)
[10:34] <shiftplusone> gordonDrogon: that was just me typing 'fritzing pcb' in google image search and most of them are like that.
[10:34] <Ben64> gordonDrogon: http://ben64.com/pcb/board.png
[10:35] <shiftplusone> iKarith: heh, thanks. Seems to have made BBC news.
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[10:35] <iKarith> shiftplusone: I saw it via twit
[10:35] <Ben64> i think mine looks better than those fritzing examples :)
[10:35] <iKarith> To which I replied as only I would… https://twitter.com/RasppleII/status/1093442582355406849
[10:36] <shiftplusone> heh
[10:36] <shiftplusone> Lots of comments about it ripping off apple >.>
[10:36] <Ben64> maybe if they started selling em for $350
[10:37] <iKarith> Okay, correction, as only I (and like 1/3 of other nerds) would…
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[10:39] <iKarith> shiftplusone: I meant to ask you some time ago if you or anyone else still does much cross-compiling or emulation at this point. I gave some passing look at qemu which I guess has something that sort of pretends to be Pi modes now, but didn't follow up on it
[10:40] <shiftplusone> I rarely cross-compile, since we have an arm build server. I use qemu, but only in user, not system mode.
[10:41] <iKarith> If I'm going to do what I really want to do here, I need about two more Pis, and to boot them off a remote image if possible. Since I don't necessarily need the result to be especially fast, that might help. Or not, I don't know how complete the qemu emulation is
[10:41] <shiftplusone> what are you planning?
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[10:44] <iKarith> At this point I'm going to have to start all over again from scratch working with pi-gen, and I still need to produce both x86-64 and armv6+hf OS images… I'm trying to make the process of building and testing them as fast as possible. Ideally I'd like to automate some of the testing.
[10:45] <iKarith> If I automate the testing a bit, I can start it and walk away, it's a 35 minute build process on my Core i7-3770 machine, a little slower on my i5-4460
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[10:45] <shiftplusone> ah, I have a few ideas brewing to do something similar, but don't have the time to actually implement it.
[10:47] <iKarith> I didn't have time to understand what to implement. Too many other issues a bit higher priority. We need a DKMS package to build an appletalk module (and divert the Debian-provided one on Debian systems), and DKMS + kernel-package isn't something I've quite wrapped my head around yet.
[10:48] <iKarith> Debian's netatalk is almost where I need it now in sid, and I can make like changes in stretch.
[10:48] <iKarith> Mostly Debian doesn't install some headers I need.
[10:49] <iKarith> The other problem I've got on my plate is Java-related. *sigh*
[10:49] * iKarith stabs java.
[10:50] <shiftplusone> Here's the setup: pi zero fetches the latest image, acts as a mass storage device and powers on an attached pi which boots off the image. Once start.elf is loaded, the zero quickly switched to composite device (mass storage + serial + ethernet). Then we can run a testsuite to make sure the essentials work. A quick set of tests can be done using qemu-arm-static without having to boot an actual pi, but I want to do a full test to have
[10:50] <shiftplusone> confidence that all nightly images are shippable.
[10:50] <shiftplusone> in raspbian, dkms packages work if you install raspberrypi-kernel-headers first
[10:51] <shiftplusone> (and if they build against the kernel... most debian dkms packages target older kernel versions so fail to build)
[10:52] <iKarith> In my case, I'm literally extracting the appletalk module from a current kernel and building it without MacIP so we can use macipgw with it.
[10:54] <iKarith> Ivan's scripts for doing all of this were undocumented, brute force, and fragile, so I'm trying to do it all right.
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[10:55] <shiftplusone> It shouldn't be particularly tricky. Convert it to an our of tree module (the kernel has documentation on that), add your patch, copy dkms magic from an existing debian package and you should be set.
[10:56] <iKarith> It's easier than that actually, there's not much of a patch really
[10:57] <iKarith> Config option. Debian turns it on, we need it off. And Raspbian doesn't provide an appletalk module at all, so we don't even have to divert there.
[10:57] <iKarith> It's mostly just me spending time to read the documentation.
[10:57] <iKarith> But I'm glad to know the process is not supposed to be complex.
[10:59] <shiftplusone> https://www.kernel.org/doc/Documentation/kbuild/modules.txt
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[11:00] <iKarith> My OTHER problem … is that a Java "server" requires a GUI for some stupid reason (and rxtx, which is a disaster in itself), and Ivan "solved" this problem by running it with xvfb-run. Problem solved? Well no, because this server needs to be told to reread a symlink at times, and rather than sending it SIGHUP or something, we kill it and restart. Only it's java, so it doesn't fully shut down before the
[11:00] <iKarith> new instance is started up. Thus xfvb-run never shuts down the xvfb (especially on the armv6 machines) and blithely starts another one…
[11:01] <iKarith> I need to just create one xfvb service (easy enough) and leave it running.
[11:01] <shiftplusone> you lost me at "java"
[11:01] <iKarith> Yeah, me too
[11:02] <iKarith> Unfortunately, it's the only implementation that currently exists, the upstream dev says any problems with the code on Linux can be fixed "by the a2cloud guys" (that's me, myself, and I at this point), and frankly I'd just as soon replace the whole flaming mess with a nice bit of python.
[11:05] <iKarith> Literally this Raspple II stuff is some nice wrappers around netatalk/samba and some tools to unpack/install old Apple archives on one side, and some very 7-bit-friendly UNIX shell tools and ADTPro on the other. And right now I've got problems with both that require lots of research to solve.
[11:05] <iKarith> Eventually I'd like to automate image building and testing though. :D
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[11:07] <iKarith> Figuring out how to better do 7 bit terminal stuff in the modern utf-8 world would be nice, but it's a lower priority right now.
[11:09] <iKarith> Are you guys using one of those fancy high core count ARM servers for building? :D
[11:10] <iKarith> I drooled over a couple of webpages for those, but I'm not sure yet the intended customer for the things. Not until costs come down a little on them.
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[11:13] <shiftplusone> nuh, those thunderx ones are aarch64-only
[11:13] <Habbie> yes
[11:13] <Habbie> very annoying
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[11:14] <shiftplusone> We've got the next step down I could find - https://b2b.gigabyte.com/ARM-Server/R120-P30-rev-100
[11:16] <shiftplusone> Only place I could find that actually has them: https://www.scan.co.uk/products/gigabyte-r120-p30-single-socket-1u-rackmount-armv8-24ghz-pcie-30-8x-ddr3-slots-ecc-unbuffered-2x-10g
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[12:20] <kiero> hi, is it possible to have volumio playing music from NAS server and also FM Radio?
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[12:21] <Habbie> kiero, there is no FM hardware in the pi
[12:22] <kiero> Habbie: yes I know, but there are 3rd party parts
[12:22] <Habbie> alright, just checking :)
[12:24] <kiero> I only found fm transmitter tutorials for Pi
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[12:25] <pksato> kiero: more easy to have a portable FM radio. :)
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[12:25] <kiero> pksato: what do you mean?
[12:26] <pksato> search for TEA5767 FM Stereo Radio Module
[12:27] <pksato> or RDA5807M
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[12:28] <kiero> ok, thanks
[12:28] <kiero> but what did you mean by "more easy to have a portable FM radio"?
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[13:02] <mlelstv> for arm servers you could look at scaleway or even AWS.
[13:02] <mlelstv> might be more interesting than buying it now.
[13:02] <Habbie> packet.net is nice too
[13:03] <shiftplusone> scaleway is aarch64 only as well. I'm sure they use those same thunderx processors
[13:03] <shiftplusone> haven't tried packet.net
[13:03] <Habbie> oh yes
[13:03] <Habbie> sorry
[13:04] <Habbie> i have a packet.net box and that is were i found out thunderx is useless for raspbian building
[13:04] <Habbie> but they might have other brands too
[13:05] <shiftplusone> https://www.packet.com/cloud/servers/ says thunderx
[13:07] <mlelstv> our arm32 builders are Jetson TK1
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[16:40] <DanielTheFox> wait, does AWS has ARM servers?
[16:40] <DanielTheFox> I didn't even know that
[16:41] <hodapp> they do?
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[16:41] <DanielTheFox> 09:35:04 <mlelstv> [06:02:07] for arm servers you could look at scaleway or even AWS.
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[16:41] <schibes> maybe it's an x86 server running ARM in libvirt
[16:42] <DanielTheFox> true, but still
[16:42] <DanielTheFox> ARM-able servers!
[16:42] <schibes> makes sense if you are a dev porting code to ARM
[16:42] <schibes> and need something close by to test builds on
[16:42] <hodapp> some of us would rather have the right to bare ARMs though
[16:43] <hodapp> none of this VM nonsense
[16:43] * schibes groans
[16:43] <DanielTheFox> yeah, AWS is not really all about baremetal server stuff
[16:43] <DanielTheFox> get another provider :/
[16:43] <hodapp> schibes: thanks, I'll be here all night
[16:43] <DanielTheFox> on the other hand, they have fairly good servers
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[16:43] <DanielTheFox> even if virtualized
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[16:44] <schibes> well they have those i3.metal instaces now which are $$$$$. I'll pass
[16:45] <mlelstv> AWS has arm servers nowadays
[16:45] <mlelstv> "Graviton"-CPUs
[16:45] <mlelstv> https://aws.amazon.com/de/blogs/aws/new-ec2-instances-a1-powered-by-arm-based-aws-graviton-processors/
[16:46] <DanielTheFox> further, everybody has cheap baremetal servers anyway-- our computers!
[16:46] <mlelstv> your own computer is always cheaper, but only over some time.
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[16:47] <DanielTheFox> with everything, including free support (ourselves), physical access to the servers and varying cost! (more CPU used == expensive power bill)
[16:47] <hodapp> there are still some huge benefits to having something in a datacenter
[16:47] <schibes> mlelstv: oh nice, will have to try one of those out. 2.5 cents an hour for the tiniest one, works out to like $15/month
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[16:47] <hodapp> like the stupid-fast pipes datacenters can have for cheap
[16:48] <mlelstv> I was told that scaleway is cheaper.
[16:49] <mlelstv> https://www.scaleway.com/virtual-cloud-servers/#anchor_arm
[16:49] <DanielTheFox> on the other hand, we have comparatively slow internet access and unreliable setups
[16:49] <DanielTheFox> and only one public IP address (unless you have PPPoA/PPPoE and can hack their secret login to have more /dynamic/ IP addresses)
[16:50] <mlelstv> AWS is more flexible.
[16:50] <DanielTheFox> (I'm a fortunate guy with access (not mine tho) to a PPPoA line, which has dynamic IP, if you log in multiple times, you get multiple public IPv4 addresses)
[16:50] <DanielTheFox> AWS is incredibly flexible, yes
[16:51] <mlelstv> running your own server in a data center is about 1 cent per CPU hour.
[16:51] <DanielTheFox> if you only need 30 minutes of hyper-powerful c4.large server, you only pay for that
[16:51] <DanielTheFox> I think it was 5 cents for that time? ($0.10/hour for c4.large)
[16:52] <mlelstv> yes, cloud is more expensive. Mr Bezos wants to become rich.
[16:52] <schibes> "become"?
[16:52] <mlelstv> if you run your own operations, you can get it at 1 cent.
[16:53] <DanielTheFox> unfortunately there are no suitable datacenters in my whole country
[16:53] <Khaytsus> Why would you need it to be in your country?
[16:53] <DanielTheFox> bandwidth is fairly expensive and the rent price is insane
[16:53] <mlelstv> it's more about buying, not renting :)
[16:54] <DanielTheFox> Khaytsus: closer to drive to
[16:54] <Khaytsus> If you're needing to drive to a place, YDIW
[16:54] <DanielTheFox> and somewhat-lower latency for clients in my same country?
[16:55] <Khaytsus> What is it you're wanting to do? Why not just a vps?
[16:55] <DanielTheFox> not really, just keeping the chatter going on
[16:55] <DanielTheFox> maybe I should build my own datacenter with some RPi 3B+?
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[16:56] <Khaytsus> That seems asinine and insane.
[16:56] <DanielTheFox> everything is eventually insane
[16:56] <schibes> I don't know about a whole datacenter but you can build some pretty interesting compute clusters with enough Pi 3B's
[16:57] <Khaytsus> Or those Pi CM's
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[16:57] <Khaytsus> And a backbone
[16:58] <Khaytsus> Or ya know, build a real server that can host a thousand times more things.
[16:59] <schibes> they wouldn't make Pi CMs if there wasn't some real world use for them
[17:01] <Khaytsus> I suppose one could argue if someone demands a private server of their own with no shared resources and it doesn't have to be particularly performant, they would fit
[17:03] <DanielTheFox> unfortunately, unlike the Jurassic Park guy, I'm more worried about costs
[17:03] <Khaytsus> Well, there it is
[17:03] <DanielTheFox> even if that ends in lower performance
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[17:05] <DanielTheFox> and of course, a Pi is fairly low-cost (the word "cheap" appears to mean worse things than intended), hopefully interesting things can be done with that
[17:05] <DanielTheFox> just walk off modern browsers and gaming and you're fine
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[17:25] <DanielTheFox> whoa whoa!
[17:26] <DanielTheFox> h264 hardware encoding in the RPi is really fast
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[17:44] <Curi0> why is console over serial port so messed up
[17:45] <Curi0> i can't even scroll up without the whole thing getting corrupted
[17:45] <DanielTheFox> set the correct baud rate
[17:45] <flyback> or your ground wire is *CANUCKED*
[17:45] <Curi0> its 115200
[17:45] <Curi0> i correctly recieve the boot log
[17:45] <flyback> what are you using for console
[17:45] <Curi0> gnu screen
[17:45] <flyback> p[2303, cp210x or ftdi
[17:46] <flyback> eww
[17:46] <Curi0> im using ch341a
[17:46] * flyback uses teraterm or realterm
[17:46] <flyback> yeah I know windows, blah blah bnlah but the best 2 serial programs I found
[17:46] * DanielTheFox uses screen for everything
[17:46] <flyback> pl2303 are real pissy
[17:46] <flyback> at least the older revisions I had in radio shack cables
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[17:47] <flyback> best I had was silicon labs cp210x series but I fried my last two random probing for hidden serial ports on stuff
[17:47] <flyback> usb to ttl serial adaptors
[17:47] <flyback> I am talking about
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[17:48] <flyback> I use them for routers, cable modems, lcd tv's, hard drives (yes some have a serial console off the jumper pins)
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[17:48] <flyback> still haven't got a rpi yet, soon
[17:48] <flyback> defintely want a few 0's for alt comm projects
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[17:49] <flyback> Curi0, ch341a doesn't sound too bad from what I read about them
[17:49] <Curi0> it isn't bad
[17:49] <flyback> just make sure your ground is good and your wires aren't too close to a really noisy point on the board or somethin gelwse
[17:49] <Curi0> i think its something with the pi's software
[17:49] <Curi0> its ontop of my laptop
[17:49] <flyback> I know my pl230x went apeshit if I put my magnifier lamp with a cfl near it
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[17:50] <flyback> anyways I stoppoed by to say if anyone from the foundation etc hangs here
[17:50] <flyback> congrats on the retail store
[17:50] <flyback> you deserve it
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[17:52] <flyback> Curi0, worse comes to worse just dial them both down a notch
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[17:53] <flyback> took me a month to get serial over lan working on this old poweredge I turned into a data recovery box to recover things I lost 20 yrs ago
[17:53] <flyback> I wanted to make it fast but I concluded it wasn't worth the random dropouts etc
[17:53] * BurtyB is still a little confused by a retail store tbh
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[17:56] <flyback> why not
[17:56] <flyback> they started a whole movement
[17:57] <flyback> im also considering a rpi for a irc bnc in house
[17:57] <flyback> cause their power requirements are insanly cheap to get hrs and hrs of battery backup
[17:58] <flyback> rather than go broke trying to keep a normal pc or laptop up for hrs to take messages
[17:58] <Fulgen> flyback: flashing the router with e.g. openWrt and installing a bouncer on it might be an option too :p
[17:59] <flyback> na I don't believe in running other shit on your gateway to the world
[17:59] <flyback> however I got enough old useless routers I could do it on as a 2ndary
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[18:03] <BurtyB> flyback, as someone with a job I find the "highstreet" mostly pointless these days - if I go town after work the only places open are pubs... hmmm beer :)
[18:04] <flyback> well im austistic but I have a IT job but I don't go to towns much
[18:04] <flyback> but i'd still consider visitng that store a lot if they had one here in pa usa
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[18:05] <flyback> radio shack was starting to get into stuff like this but it wss too late for them
[18:06] <akk> I like supporting local stores when feasible. You can get a look at things, get things quickly, maybe even talk to someone and get advice (if you're lucky and it's a good store).
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[18:06] <akk> (For electronics that's not feasible where I am, but I wish it were)
[18:06] <Curi0> it seems like theres some interferance on my uart
[18:06] <Curi0> how could i fix it ?
[18:07] <flyback> choke
[18:07] <flyback> choke
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[18:07] <flyback> ask ##electronics also
[18:07] <flyback> mabye shorter wires or shileded
[18:08] <flyback> or build a opto isolator
[18:08] <flyback> I am thinking of doing that cause I am tired of burning out usb uart chips
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[18:09] <flyback> I don't know enough about rf etc to give you the best advice how to make a filter sorry
[18:10] <flyback> work bbl
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[18:14] <Curi0> i have like 15cm
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[19:05] <JC_SoCal> Is anyone able to recommend a case, battery pack and screen (touch or button input, 3.5 inch) combo that works well together? I'm looking to have a small self powered handheld
[19:05] <DanielTheFox> hah, similar what I have
[19:05] <DanielTheFox> but I used a regular powerbank instead
[19:06] <DanielTheFox> and I didn't even use the touch feature, since I lay on linux tty1 and pure USB keyboard
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[20:58] <Arlenx> hi, can someone help please? i need some help to activate the Bluetooth on a raspberry pi 3 B+ ( with Raspbian Stretch Lite installed on it).i want that BLE to function as a scanner so it can Listen to a signal coming from NRF51822 https://www.aliexpress.com/item/2V-3-3V-NRF51822-Bluetooth-4-0-Wireless-Module-for-iBeacon-Base-Station-Intelligent-Control-System/32826502025.html
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[21:13] <friendofafriend> Arlenx: Try "sudo bluetoothctl"
[21:13] <hodapp> Arlenx: is the nRF acting as a beacon?
[21:14] <hodapp> Arlenx: check 'hciconfig' to make sure hci0 is up (may need sudo) and then 'hcitool lescan'
[21:15] <hodapp> what you do from there depends on what you're wanting to do with the nRF
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[21:16] <Arlenx> ok ill try that now...
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[21:19] <Arlenx> hodapp,yep the nRF is a beacon
[21:19] <hodapp> Arlenx: and what are you trying to do with it?
[21:20] <Arlenx> i want the raspberry pi to Listen to that beacon,so when i press the BLE button (nRF ), the raspberry will trigger something with Node-REd
[21:21] <Arlenx> when i type: sudo bluetoothctl . it retun a string that looks like a mac address of the BLE on the raspberry
[21:22] <Arlenx> is it correct?
[21:22] <Arlenx> and this command: sudo hciconfig lescan return: invalid command
[21:24] <hodapp> it's 'hcitool lescan'
[21:24] <Arlenx> it return: Set scan parameters failed: Operation not permitted
[21:24] <Arlenx> oh maybe sudo
[21:25] <hodapp> does hciconfig show that hci0 is up?
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[21:25] <Arlenx> oh, it show me all nearby BLE
[21:26] <hodapp> okay, so you at least know your BLE is working. You should see the nRF show up if you hit the button
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[21:28] <Arlenx> it's already in the list of BLE devices,but it doesn't catch the button click
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[21:30] <Arlenx> hodapp, can i monitor the nRF click event?
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[21:36] <hodapp> Arlenx: either the click is present in some data that it sends out as a beacon, or you must connect to the device in order to get that information
[21:36] <hodapp> you need to figure out which; you can do connections with commandline tools like gatttool or hcitool (see 'lecc') but it's probably much easier to use something like bluepy
[21:38] <Arlenx> hodapp, i've connected to the device from my iPhone and saw UUID, but dunno how to connect it from a raspberry.ill try the tools you've just suggested(at least i know the BLE is working...)
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[21:45] <VladTheImplier> Hey all, I got the situation =.= I control LEDs via a pi zero gpio expander. Via sockets. If ask read a GPIO or issue GPIO High/Low commands in a loop, linux (Raspbian) crashes / locks up. It doesn't matter if it's via my C code or if I use pigs in the shell in a loop. The PC just locks up and that's it. Dead till I pull the plug. I have never seen something like this. Can someone help?
[21:45] <VladTheImplier> *I got quite the situation
[21:47] <VladTheImplier> It seems, if I sleep a certain amount of time, then I can post pone the crash. But it comes at some point. It's as if there is maximum amount of socket commands raspbian can take before crashing...
[21:47] <Habbie> that sounds like you are running out of memory for some reason
[21:47] <Habbie> but if pigs also does it..
[21:47] <Habbie> it's an unlikely problem!
[21:48] <VladTheImplier> I don't. I don't buffer anything. There is no memory leak. It's so bizzare
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[22:05] <toastintheshell> VladTheImplier: could it be the sdcard? have you tried this code on a fresh card?
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[22:06] <Prestige> I think I'm misunderstanding the docs, can the 3B+ only be booted from a microSD ootb? I don't have an SD card writer, just curious if I absolutely need to get one
[22:07] <VladTheImplier> toastintheshell: No, the PiZero is used as an USB GPIO expander. no SD cards involved.
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[22:13] <shauno> Prestige: the 3b will only boot from microsd ootb, the 3b+ will do pxe & usb too. but a card reader will save you much screaming down the line
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[22:15] <Prestige> Will the 3b+ will be unable to write to the sd card? I could boot from usb and use the pi to install an os to the sd card, if possible shauno
[22:15] <Prestige> s/will be/be
[22:16] <friendofafriend> Prestige: You can boot from USB on the Raspi 3B+.
[22:16] <Prestige> Thanks, I'll try doing that and using the pi to install to the sd card
[22:17] <friendofafriend> Read over this. https://www.raspberrypi.org/documentation/hardware/raspberrypi/bootmodes/msd.md
[22:17] <Prestige> Awesome, was looking for a while on how to do this. Thanks again
[22:17] <friendofafriend> The 3+ can boot from USB straight from the factory. The Pi 2B and 3 have to be booted once from SD card.
[22:17] <friendofafriend> You're welcome, Prestige. Good luck.
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[22:29] <toastintheshell> I'd just buy a usb card reader if I were you Prestige, it's just something that comes in handy so often, and they're dirt cheap
[22:30] <Prestige> If I can write to it from the pi I shouldn't have any trouble
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[22:33] <toastintheshell> you'll be fine with that most likely
[22:34] <toastintheshell> Only thing I'm wondering is if some distros built with older pis in mind would not like to boot from usb for whatever reason
[22:35] <toastintheshell> obviously if you stick with raspbian you won't have to worry
[22:35] <Bitweasil> I've not found USB booting to be as reliable as SD card booting.
[22:36] <Bitweasil> Just toss an old scrap SD card in for boot.
[22:36] <toastintheshell> Bitweasil: I haven't actually tried usb booting yet, what sort of issues are you running into?
[22:37] <Bitweasil> If the USB device doesn't initialize fast enough, the Pi won't find it.
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[22:38] <toastintheshell> did you find any difference between hardware? I'd imagine an ssd with external power would have less trouble than a cheapo usb stick drawing power from the pi
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[22:44] <toastintheshell> Bitweasil: did you try it with a full external ssd?
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[22:45] <DanielTheFox> hah
[22:45] <Prestige> I have a few usbs and an external hdd, will have to see what works out
[22:46] <Prestige> but I'm assuming it will work
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[22:46] <DanielTheFox> make sure you have a nice power supply if you're gonna use a HDD
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[22:55] <Bitweasil> toastintheshell, I tried it with a USB stick and a USB-to-mSata adapter I had laying around, couldn't get it working on a 3, used the old SD cards I have laying around.
[22:56] <Bitweasil> It wasn't worth the effort to spend much time on TBH.
[22:56] <Bitweasil> I have a bunch of old 4/8GB microSD cards.
[22:56] <Bitweasil> I just put /boot on them.
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[23:02] <toastintheshell> Bitweasil: /boot on a card with the rest on an external ssd sounds like the best bet then
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[23:02] <toastintheshell> but there are rpi-special-built external ssds, I wonder if you'd have better luck with those
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[23:09] <Bitweasil> I'm sure they'd work, but they're more expensive than the cheap adapters that work fine.
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[23:18] <shauno> I got one that was meant for the pi, and it didn't do well at all
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[23:21] <shauno> I had https://www.amazon.co.uk/dp/B07LF3Q6X3/ (although the same thing exists under many names). it wouldn't boot from usb with my keyboard attached. weirdness, and useless for my uses (but otherwise built like a tank)
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