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IRC Log for 2019-02-13

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[0:00] <indomitable> Tenkawa, ahhh icy hell
[0:00] <indomitable> :)
[0:00] <RcHaCk> snowing here also
[0:00] <Tenkawa> indomitable: yep
[0:00] <indomitable> RcHaCk, you don't count
[0:00] <RcHaCk> why
[0:00] <indomitable> you voted for duterte
[0:00] <indomitable> I'm onto you
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[0:00] <Tenkawa> indomitable: I moved up here from the south where all we got was ice thinking I was getting out of that mess 25 years ago
[0:00] <RcHaCk> iam not phillipino
[0:01] <RcHaCk> how can i vote for him
[0:01] <Tenkawa> I never saw snow till I got up here.. just ice
[0:01] <indomitable> I don't know how you did it, but I don't approve
[0:01] <Tenkawa> ice is bad....
[0:01] <indomitable> Tenkawa, no, ice with snow on top is bad
[0:01] <indomitable> ice is acceptable
[0:01] <indomitable> you can look at the ice and go "oh that's definitely slippery"
[0:02] <Tenkawa> well yeah thats worse
[0:02] <indomitable> you cannot do that to snow-covered ice
[0:02] <Tenkawa> black ice doesnt need snow
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[0:02] <Tenkawa> just the right lighting
[0:02] <Tenkawa> or lack of
[0:02] <Tenkawa> that was the problems on our roads
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[0:03] <indomitable> Tenkawa, black ice is black which is weird on an ordinarily grey street
[0:03] <Tenkawa> right now I have a swamp for a backyard
[0:03] <indomitable> mmm delicious swamps
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[0:03] <d0rm0us3> can we say frog-legs for dinner?
[0:03] <Tenkawa> I grew up in a swamp... not fun
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[0:04] <Tenkawa> not sure I ever tried frog-legs
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[0:05] <Tenkawa> I had plenty of shrimp and such though
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[0:55] <nine_9> hello there guys :) i would like to make a dual boot disk with hardware swtich to choose which system to boot, but i couldn't find anything on the internet, i know about berryboot and maybe i could script it but i have the impression it's a bit bloated for a bootloader
[0:56] <indomitable> why would you dual boot
[0:56] <indomitable> :(
[0:56] <nine_9> because i want to run two different OSs
[0:56] <nine_9> distros
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[0:57] <indomitable> get more sd cards
[0:57] <stiv> get more Pis
[0:57] <dTal> if they're both Linux systems, you could do something above the bootloader layer, around the time the OS gets mounted
[0:58] <dTal> I've hacked systems into booting into chroots before with that sort of thing, wouldn't be too hard to make it check a GPIO to decide
[0:59] <nine_9> but i don't want to keep changing cards that's the whole point of what i'm trying to do... dTal: exactly! do you have any ideas though if a bootloader would allow me to use a different rpi hw config for different OSs?
[0:59] <nine_9> i think there could be a hacky way to do that, like updating the config file and cycling
[0:59] <dTal> how do you mean, different hw config
[0:59] <nine_9> dunno if berryboot supports that
[1:00] <nine_9> dTal: well the config rpi uses
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[1:04] <Phischi> just wondering, if I put /tmp in the RAM.... do I need to care anymore about SD-writes?
[1:05] <Phischi> would be cool if I could define files that change often but don't need to be stored on SD or USB all the time....
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[1:46] <akk> You need more than /tmp for that, like /var.
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[1:48] <friendofafriend> Yep, good ol' tmpfs. ;)
[1:48] <friendofafriend> And maybe back up the tmpfs to your SD card with a cron job every so often.
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[1:54] <Bray90820_> Is the raspberry pi 3b powerful enough to run bluray rips
[1:55] <DanielTheFox> only if they've been ripped to h264
[1:55] <DanielTheFox> otherwise, nope
[1:56] <Bray90820_> Ripped to MKav then converted to H.264 with ffmpeg
[1:56] <Bray90820_> *MKV
[1:57] <DanielTheFox> ok
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[1:57] <Bray90820_> Wvat about 1080p/4k youtube
[2:01] <friendofafriend> Try VLC for that.
[2:01] <friendofafriend> You can just run vlc "http://youtube.com/watch?v=letterspaghetti"
[2:07] <DanielTheFox> Bray90820_: 4k is questionable
[2:07] <DanielTheFox> 1080p is doable, but only 30fps (or below)
[2:07] <DanielTheFox> 60fps is questionable too
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[2:07] <friendofafriend> Yep, VLC recently included OpenMAX hardware accelerated decoding. So yippie there.
[2:07] <DanielTheFox> hopefully your TV screen is 4k to make 4k content worthwile
[2:08] <friendofafriend> If you're you're looking for 4K hardware accelerated decoding, you'd have to look elsewhere. I think there's some SBCs that do it.
[2:08] <friendofafriend> Yeah, looks like RK3399 boards will do it.
[2:09] <DanielTheFox> and there are some small horrible set-top boxes called "TV boxes" that are Android smartphones that need to be connected to a TV
[2:09] <DanielTheFox> some can do 4k
[2:09] <DanielTheFox> some don't
[2:09] <friendofafriend> Horrible if you use them as-is, I agree.
[2:11] <DanielTheFox> my dad quickly noticed (as he cracked open one, then screwed back together) that they're fairly similar to the RPi, except the arrangment
[2:11] <DanielTheFox> but functionally, they're fairly similar
[2:11] <friendofafriend> I saw some cat running GNURadio on one of those set-top boxes. Agreed, you're way better off getting an SBC in the first place.
[2:11] <DanielTheFox> (just that a Pi lacks internal persisten storage and is slower)
[2:12] <friendofafriend> But if you were to find one in the dumpster, take it home.
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[2:12] <DanielTheFox> I think they'd be nice single-board devices if they were openly documented to reflash them and run some more libre OS such as Debian
[2:13] <friendofafriend> DanielTheFox: To be sure, I'm not talking about anything less than doing exactly that. :)
[2:13] <DanielTheFox> do-do you flash them?
[2:13] <DanielTheFox> ours is super chinese
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[2:13] <DanielTheFox> it just reads X96
[2:14] <DanielTheFox> and I've had bad experiences with generic names on chinese devices
[2:14] <DanielTheFox> externally similar, internally they're completely different each other
[2:14] <friendofafriend> Oh yeah, that one is very much a target.
[2:14] <DanielTheFox> hopefully they're either standarized or they're even documented
[2:15] <DanielTheFox> so I could buy one at underprice (sometimes they're even cheaper than the RPi 3B+) and flash Debian on it
[2:15] <friendofafriend> I see most of them are Amlogic-based. I'll bet dollars-to-doughnuts that you're clever enough to get UART on one.
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[2:16] <friendofafriend> And from there, it's something like Armbian and you're off to the races! :)
[2:16] <DanielTheFox> on the other hand, I don't really expect anything regarding reliability :)
[2:16] <DanielTheFox> they're hyper chinese devices after all
[2:16] <friendofafriend> Sure, but most of the Raspis are, also.
[2:16] <DanielTheFox> I'd trust my life more to a Pi :>
[2:16] <DanielTheFox> but yeah
[2:17] <DanielTheFox> I'd use them as crappy as they are
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[2:17] <DanielTheFox> then read some documentation to find out what they are
[2:17] <DanielTheFox> and reflash them
[2:17] <DanielTheFox> hopefully I'll be able to run them like a RPi
[2:17] <DanielTheFox> (and reserve the RPi for more specialized tasks)
[2:18] <friendofafriend> Not to go too far off, but there's some notes about Linux on the x96 here. https://gist.github.com/probonopd/d4f0a3c7105b8378bc10eebe7f2d7de9
[2:19] <DanielTheFox> cool, gonna fire the GUI up and read that site
[2:19] <friendofafriend> As for supporting the tuners sometimes built-in to devices like that? Anyone's guess.
[2:20] <friendofafriend> Bah, GUIs. wget "https://gist.githubusercontent.com/probonopd/d4f0a3c7105b8378bc10eebe7f2d7de9/raw/3ce8d86e5a8cb9eb61b6d7f68b91e34de926e9d7/x96.md" -O - | less
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[2:28] <RcHaCk> ohh good
[2:28] <RcHaCk> on the topic
[2:29] <RcHaCk> for some ready git clone and wget never seem to work
[2:29] <RcHaCk> any reason for this ?
[2:29] <RcHaCk> unable to resolve host address
[2:29] <RcHaCk> says this every time
[2:30] <DanielTheFox> edit the file /etc/resolv.conf
[2:31] <DanielTheFox> put nameserver 8.8.8.8 in the file
[2:31] <DanielTheFox> save
[2:31] <DanielTheFox> and try again
[2:31] <RcHaCk> there is already name server
[2:31] <DanielTheFox> check if it works
[2:31] <RcHaCk> nameserver 192.168.1.1
[2:32] <DanielTheFox> does 192.168.1.1 DNS server works?
[2:32] <RcHaCk> not sure
[2:32] <RcHaCk> but the pi has internet connect
[2:32] <RcHaCk> iam connect right now via ssh
[2:32] <DanielTheFox> ping 8.8.8.8
[2:33] <DanielTheFox> does this work?
[2:33] <RcHaCk> yes
[2:33] <DanielTheFox> ok
[2:33] <DanielTheFox> change the nameserver to 8.8.8.8
[2:33] <DanielTheFox> and see if it resolves
[2:34] <RcHaCk> nope
[2:34] <RcHaCk> its just faster failing now
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[2:37] <friendofafriend> RcHaCk: What error are you getting when it fails?
[2:37] <RcHaCk> same one
[2:37] <friendofafriend> As what?
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[2:39] <RcHaCk> so i need the networks dns server ip in there ?
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[2:42] <RcHaCk> ?
[2:43] <RcHaCk> Could not resolve host: github.com
[2:44] <RcHaCk> does that for everything
[2:44] <DanielTheFox> what can prevent DNS from working? :/
[2:44] <DanielTheFox> ping works
[2:44] <DanielTheFox> but DNS doesn't
[2:44] <RcHaCk> well
[2:44] <RcHaCk> its techically 2 routers deep on the network
[2:44] <RcHaCk> router then to a router in switch mode
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[2:45] <DanielTheFox> this ISP here has 7 routers between consumer and bare internet
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[2:45] <RcHaCk> so why doesnt dns work then
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[2:45] <RcHaCk> internet works
[2:45] <DanielTheFox> hmm
[2:45] <DanielTheFox> I dunno
[2:45] <RcHaCk> just when i try to download any files with git clone or wget or curl it fails to resolve host
[2:46] <RcHaCk> doesnt matter the url
[2:46] <RcHaCk> yet the url works
[2:46] <RcHaCk> because i can goto it on my computer
[2:48] <DanielTheFox> hmm, so confirmed, it's on the software side
[2:48] <DanielTheFox> LAN works, ping to internet works
[2:48] <Reedy> What DNS server is your computer user?
[2:48] <RcHaCk> not sure
[2:48] <Reedy> *using
[2:48] <RcHaCk> how do i check
[2:48] <Reedy> What OS are you running?
[2:48] <DanielTheFox> nslookup
[2:48] <RcHaCk> rasbian
[2:48] <Reedy> on your desktop?
[2:48] <DanielTheFox> no, on the computer with internet
[2:48] <DanielTheFox> :>
[2:48] <RcHaCk> no
[2:48] <RcHaCk> console
[2:49] <RcHaCk> the pi is remote
[2:49] <RcHaCk> not in front of me
[2:49] <Reedy> but on the same network?
[2:50] <RcHaCk> no
[2:50] <Reedy> [18:45:40] <RcHaCk> yet the url works
[2:50] <Reedy> [18:45:48] <RcHaCk> because i can goto it on my computer
[2:50] <Reedy> So these comments are irrelevant
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[2:50] <RcHaCk> yes but when i was on the network itself i checked on the other computer also
[2:51] <RcHaCk> the links work
[2:51] <DanielTheFox> RcHaCk, traceroute 8.8.8.8
[2:51] <DanielTheFox> (on the Pi)
[2:51] <RcHaCk> its these 64.x.x.x ips
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[2:52] <RcHaCk> its similar to my homes dns server ips
[2:52] <DanielTheFox> wait, 64?
[2:52] <RcHaCk> the ip starts with 64
[2:53] <RcHaCk> my home network that has same ISP uses 64 dns server ip
[2:53] <DanielTheFox> how many routers between Pi and bare internet?
[2:53] <RcHaCk> 2
[2:53] <DanielTheFox> ok
[2:53] <RcHaCk> should i use this ip for name server ?
[2:53] <DanielTheFox> the first router should not start with 64
[2:53] <RcHaCk> no
[2:53] <RcHaCk> the dns server
[2:53] <Reedy> Well, it could, depending on your network setup ;)
[2:54] <DanielTheFox> since it's a public addressable/routeable IP for a private system, it can confuse some systems
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[2:54] <RcHaCk> nope
[2:54] <RcHaCk> still nothing
[2:54] <DanielTheFox> hmm
[2:55] <DanielTheFox> RcHaCk, did you run the traceroute command?
[2:55] <RcHaCk> yes
[2:55] <DanielTheFox> did it reach 8.8.8.8?
[2:55] <DanielTheFox> or it went asterisks * * * before doing so?
[2:55] <DanielTheFox> (and never reaching 8.8.8.8)
[2:55] <RcHaCk> yes
[2:56] <DanielTheFox> oh, so well, internet works
[2:56] <RcHaCk> ya well apt-get works fine
[2:56] <RcHaCk> git clone did work once
[2:57] <RcHaCk> but then just stopped working
[2:57] <DanielTheFox> hmm
[2:57] <RcHaCk> wget doesnt work
[2:57] <RcHaCk> curl doesnt work
[2:57] <DanielTheFox> check again nameserver
[2:57] <RcHaCk> all just keep saying cant reslove host
[2:57] <DanielTheFox> cat /etc/resolv.conf
[2:58] <RcHaCk> nameserver to 8.8.8.8
[2:58] <RcHaCk> ya
[2:58] <DanielTheFox> ok
[2:58] <DanielTheFox> I found this possibility
[2:58] <DanielTheFox> https://raspberrypi.stackexchange.com/questions/64556/problem-with-dns
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[3:00] <RcHaCk> doesnt work
[3:00] <DanielTheFox> hrm...
[3:00] <DanielTheFox> after that, I think I'm not able to find further solutions to DNS failure
[3:00] <DanielTheFox> hopefully there's somebody with more experience in that matter, idling here or just reading from up above
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[3:03] <DanielTheFox> off to bed, bye
[3:03] <RcHaCk> oh
[3:03] <friendofafriend> Later, DanielTheFox.
[3:03] <RcHaCk> fixed
[3:03] <RcHaCk> i reboot and tryed again
[3:03] <DanielTheFox> RcHaCk, what was? :)
[3:04] <RcHaCk> remote: Enumerating objects: 72, done.
[3:04] <RcHaCk> remote: Total 72 (delta 0), reused 0 (delta 0), pack-reused 72
[3:04] <RcHaCk> Unpacking objects: 100% (72/72), done.
[3:04] <DanielTheFox> haha, rebooting is the solution for everything
[3:04] <DanielTheFox> anyway
[3:04] <RcHaCk> thanks for the hep
[3:04] <RcHaCk> help
[3:04] <DanielTheFox> bye, and see ya tomorrow
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[3:13] <Phischi> DanielTheFox: any idea what software to use for DigitalSignage (showing videos and websites mainly) aside from Screenly-OS?
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[3:13] <Phischi> (or OSE)
[3:13] <Phischi> something with a useable backend that does not need a onlineconnection to run
[3:14] <d0rm0us3> windows media center ;}
[3:14] <friendofafriend> mplayer -fixed-vo -loop 0 file.mp4 ?
[3:15] <Khaytsus> friendofafriend: No more soviet national anthems? :D
[3:15] <d0rm0us3> What you're describing Phischi isn't really 'Digital Signage'
[3:15] <Phischi> d0rm0us3: why?
[3:15] <friendofafriend> Khaytsus: Only until the "neighbors" beat on the walls.
[3:16] <Khaytsus> blyat
[3:16] <RcHaCk> anyone know anything about rfid ?
[3:16] <friendofafriend> RcHaCk: Enough to open my apartment door. What's up?
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[3:16] <RcHaCk> trying to read cards
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[3:16] <Khaytsus> Same here, enought to open friendofafriend's door
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[3:16] <RcHaCk> but not sure where the information is
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[3:16] <Khaytsus> RcHaCk: You have a reader?
[3:16] <Phischi> d0rm0us3: it should show stats of a bunch of sensors using Graphana.... and in between show videos. Sounds like what BurgerKing does here, too.
[3:16] <RcHaCk> yes
[3:17] <Phischi> depsite they just show prices :P
[3:17] <RcHaCk> mfrc522
[3:17] <friendofafriend> I'd probably use ImageMagick for those sensors to be displayed.
[3:18] <Phischi> nah, stuff is stored in a DB, the website pulls onload the latest data. That works fine.
[3:18] <Phischi> Screenly does what I need, BUT: you can't set daily/weekly playlists.... it only accepts fixed dates as start and end.... annoying.
[3:18] <d0rm0us3> Going to have pages that explain what the sensors mean?
[3:19] <friendofafriend> Phischi: Check out a program called "pageres-cli", it'll take a screenshot of that webpage for you.
[3:19] <Phischi> d0rm0us3: weatherdata and stuff, fancy day/week-curves
[3:19] <d0rm0us3> Do you need to schedule content?
[3:19] <Phischi> d0rm0us3: yeah
[3:19] <Phischi> friendofafriend: no. It must be noob-friendly.
[3:19] <RcHaCk> friendofafriend what code you using to read the cards ?
[3:19] <d0rm0us3> Ok.. Digital Signage it is.
[3:20] <friendofafriend> RcHaCk: The information will be whereever the program puts it.
[3:20] <RcHaCk> ?
[3:20] <friendofafriend> Phischi: You need a better noob.
[3:20] <d0rm0us3> http://tinyurl.com/y3ot3cag
[3:20] <friendofafriend> RcHaCk: I'm reading cards with an Arduino.
[3:20] <Phischi> friendofafriend: the usecase can't be changed.
[3:21] <RcHaCk> with what code ?
[3:21] <Phischi> d0rm0us3: cool. All run on a Pi3?
[3:22] <friendofafriend> RcHaCk: There's oodles of RFID reader code for the Arduino out there.
[3:22] <friendofafriend> RcHaCk: And you'll get the data from the serial port.
[3:22] <Phischi> d0rm0us3: I had so much hope for info-beamer, especially since it is used at the Chaos Computer Congress... BUT: no offline-use (or atleast no fancy webbackend)
[3:22] <friendofafriend> From there you can log it with any number of tools, or run a script to act when new data is read. Is that your usecase?
[3:23] <RcHaCk> yes but what code you using for it
[3:24] <friendofafriend> You'd want to use this, https://github.com/miguelbalboa/rfid
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[3:24] <friendofafriend> And there's a super-happy Instructable for your enjoyment, here. https://pimylifeup.com/raspberry-pi-rfid-rc522/
[3:25] <RcHaCk> ahh i need work that will work for PI
[3:25] <RcHaCk> thats the issue iam having
[3:26] <friendofafriend> That work will work for the Pi.
[3:26] <RcHaCk> ive tryed like many different codes
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[3:29] <RcHaCk> how do i use this ?
[3:30] <friendofafriend> RcHaCk: Connect the reader as shown, enable SPI with raspi-config, close the repo, run the program. Enjoy output.
[3:30] <RcHaCk> ya i already have spi turned on
[3:31] <RcHaCk> ya how do i run it
[3:31] <friendofafriend> Did you see the tutorial? It's not tough.
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[3:32] <RcHaCk> there is a tutorial ?
[3:32] <RcHaCk> where ?
[3:32] <friendofafriend> https://pimylifeup.com/raspberry-pi-rfid-rc522/
[3:32] <RcHaCk> ya its already hooked up
[3:32] <RcHaCk> spi is enabled
[3:32] <Phischi> d0rm0us3: nothing that works offline and/or on a Pi
[3:32] <RcHaCk> iam talking about this code
[3:34] <friendofafriend> Yo, "sudo apt-get install python2.7-dev; cd ; git clone https://github.com/lthiery/SPI-Py.git ; cd ~/SPI-Py ; sudo python setup.py install ; cd ; git clone https://github.com/pimylifeup/MFRC522-python.git ; cd ~/MFRC522-python"
[3:35] <RcHaCk> ya i already tryed that one
[3:35] <RcHaCk> doesnt work
[3:35] <friendofafriend> And then a "sudo python Read.py".
[3:35] <friendofafriend> If it fails, you'll want to provide the error message.
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[3:37] <RcHaCk> that one doesnt give any erro
[3:37] <RcHaCk> just doesnt work
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[3:37] <RcHaCk> ive yet to find a single python script for the rfid that works without errors
[3:38] <friendofafriend> Did you write the script as described?
[3:38] <RcHaCk> ive tryed atleast a half dosen of them
[3:38] <friendofafriend> It's all there in the tutorial. If you can't get it working, maybe try with your Arduino. There's lots of easy code to get it working on that.
[3:39] <d0rm0us3> Phischi, UCView
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[3:39] <RcHaCk> i dont have a arudino
[3:39] <RcHaCk> i have a pi
[3:39] <d0rm0us3> Phischi: https://elinux.org/RPi_Projects/Digital_Signage
[3:40] <friendofafriend> RcHaCk: Neat-o. Can you post your Read.py script to http://paste.debian.net ?
[3:41] <Phischi> d0rm0us3: gonna check! :)
[3:41] <RcHaCk> which one ?
[3:41] <RcHaCk> i have 10 of them
[3:42] <RcHaCk> they all just read a sector or two and then throw tons of authicate errors
[3:42] <friendofafriend> The one in ~/MFRC522-Python/ .
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[3:43] <RcHaCk> i have many different versions
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[3:44] <friendofafriend> RcHaCk: https://paste.debian.net/plain/1067534
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[3:45] <RcHaCk> thats a tiny script
[3:45] <friendofafriend> Better yet: wget "https://paste.debian.net/plain/1067534" -O ~/MFRC522-Python/Read.py ; sudo python ~/MFRC-522-Python/Read.py
[3:45] <friendofafriend> Rather: wget "https://paste.debian.net/plain/1067534" -O ~/MFRC522-Python/Read.py ; sudo python ~/MFRC522-Python/Read.py
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[3:49] <RcHaCk> AUTH ERROR!!
[3:49] <RcHaCk> AUTH ERROR(status2reg & 0x08) != 0
[3:50] <RcHaCk> this is basically what they all do
[3:51] <friendofafriend> So, before that error message, you get something like "Card detected", right?
[3:51] <RcHaCk> no
[3:52] <RcHaCk> AUTH ERROR!!
[3:52] <RcHaCk> AUTH ERROR(status2reg & 0x08) != 0
[3:53] <RcHaCk> thats after MFRC522-python $ sudo python Read.py and tap card
[3:53] <Phischi> d0rm0us3: ucview looks good... need to check how it works with the local setup. Thanks :)
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[3:54] <d0rm0us3> https://www.binaryemotions.com/digital-signage/raspberry-digital-signage/
[3:56] <d0rm0us3> I'd be looking for one that could be managed remotely...
[3:56] <friendofafriend> RcHaCk: "cd ; git clone https://github.com/mikicaivosevic/MFRC522-python ; cd MFRC522-python ; sudo python ./Read.py"
[3:56] <RcHaCk> lol i have that one also
[3:56] <friendofafriend> lol, and what error do you get?
[3:57] <RcHaCk> basically the same
[3:58] <RcHaCk> Authentication error
[3:58] <friendofafriend> RcHaCk: Sounds like your reader is working fine, and your tags are something different than what the code expects.
[3:58] <friendofafriend> You might find some markings on the tags themselves that would tell you the type.
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[3:59] <friendofafriend> I'm using some EM4100 tags here.
[3:59] <RcHaCk> EM4100 tags?
[3:59] <friendofafriend> https://www.itead.cc/em4100-125khz-rfid-card.html
[4:00] <friendofafriend> Also these. https://www.itead.cc/em4100-125khz-rfid-key-tag.html
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[4:00] <RcHaCk> ive tryed the card that came with it and my own credit cards
[4:00] <Phischi> d0rm0us3: no, it has no internet-connection at the place it is used.
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[4:00] <Phischi> hence the content must be stored on the Pi locally, too
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[4:02] <d0rm0us3> Has a LAN doesn't it?
[4:02] <Phischi> too bad Chromium can't use GPU-acceleration on the Pi... Canvas-animations in Graphana look great
[4:02] <Phischi> d0rm0us3: nope. It connects to a second Pi over Wifi, that's all. No outside connection.
[4:03] <d0rm0us3> wifi equ wlan
[4:03] <Phischi> yeah.
[4:03] <d0rm0us3> So you can set it up so that they can manage.
[4:03] <Phischi> it's still offline.
[4:03] <d0rm0us3> Or you..
[4:03] <d0rm0us3> Yep.
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[4:04] <d0rm0us3> You can bring in updates on new cards ;)
[4:04] <d0rm0us3> Offer that as a 'service' :)
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[4:08] <Phischi> nhm?
[4:08] <Phischi> hm?
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[9:26] <g_zuh> I'm having trouble finding information on configuring xserver-xorg-input-joystick for raspbian stretch
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[9:30] <friendofafriend> g_zuh: What are you trying to do
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[9:32] <g_zuh> i need to remap some buttons to use the joystick as a mouse
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[9:34] <g_zuh> i think I was mostly thrown off by the config files being in /usr/share I may be on the right path now
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[9:37] <friendofafriend> "xinput get-button-map" and "xinput set-button-map" ?
[9:38] <g_zuh> friendofafriend: thanks!
[9:42] <friendofafriend> Very welcome! Good luck to you.
[9:44] <g_zuh> friendofafriend: Do you have any advice on discovering the joystick device? I have a gpio joystick (waveshare gamehat)
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[9:49] <toastintheshell> I'm testing out the pitop laptop right now
[9:49] <toastintheshell> pretty snazzy
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[9:53] <toastintheshell> feels solid, everything seems to be working well, monitor looks pretty good, keyboard has a surprisingly nice feel to it, although the key placement of Enter, backslash and this weird extra >< key where left shift should be take some getting used to
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[9:58] <toastintheshell> I love that there's plenty of room inside for electronics project stuff, I'm probably going to throw another pi3b+ in there for miscellaneous stuff, along with maybe like 4 more pi 0/0Ws to play with cluster projects
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[10:02] <toastintheshell> cli-only version of raspbian seems to be playing nicely with the peripherals so far, although I'm not sure how it will do with stuff like suspend/sleep/battery management, etc., haven't had time to test anything like that yet
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[10:07] <toastintheshell> one thing is to make sure you get the replacement thermal pad if you plan to use a 3b+ or any model other than the 3b, since the processors range in height enough to make the special heat sink/gpio interface dealy not fit properly (I just took the thermal pad off, will either get the replacement pad if I can find it, or just throw some thermal paste in there)
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[10:07] <toastintheshell> hopefully it doesn't overheat in the meantime
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[10:11] <toastintheshell> hm, i3wm works reasonably well, although i3status doesn't seem happy with something (just displays an error message)
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[10:12] <toastintheshell> works fine on all the other raspis I've used it on, so that's interesting
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[10:19] <toastintheshell> anybody know if there's a any way to network 2 piBs together through the gpio pins? like as though they each had an extra eth port?
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[10:24] <immibis> there's probably something you can do with SLIP
[10:24] <immibis> IP over UART
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[10:26] <immibis> if you can set up the UART (looks non-trivial) you can connect the RX and TX lines to each other (RX of each pi to TX of the other) and grounds of course, and then figure out how SLIP works, you could get them to network like that
[10:27] <immibis> you could also write your own system using any other pins
[10:27] <immibis> by using "tun" or "tap" network devices, which let you simulate a network adapter with your program, and then your program would send the packets over the GPIO to the program on the other pi...
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[10:30] <Plasmoduck> howdy
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[10:35] <toastintheshell> immibis: that sounds relatively straightforward, do you think there would be a way for me to make it show up as a standard network interface, or would i have to bend over backward to get that set up?
[10:36] <immibis> SLIP interfaces are standard interfaces, so are TUN/TAP (but for that idea you'll have to write a bunch of code yourself)
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[10:40] <toastintheshell> hm, I'll definitely have to try that
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[10:41] <immibis> i'll point out that USB ethernet adapters are also a thing
[10:41] <toastintheshell> would be awesome to reduce the space needed for a second network port
[10:43] <toastintheshell> immibis: well my reasoning is mainly to reduce space taken by the interface, also considering using the same methodology for pi0s
[10:43] <immibis> hopefully you don't need super fast networking because a typical UART speed is 115200 bits per second
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[10:45] <toastintheshell> immibis: what about soldering directly into the usb lines?
[10:45] <immibis> what would you solder there?
[10:45] <toastintheshell> well you can use a usb->eth adapter right?
[10:46] <immibis> would you take the circuit board out of the adapter and solder it on with some jumper wires?
[10:46] <toastintheshell> so wouldn't there theoretically be some way to use the usb interface to wire in an eth adapter, then back to usb on the other side?
[10:46] <immibis> you can try I suppose. might mess up the integrity of your USB signal. or it might not
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[10:47] <immibis> sure, you'd just be plugging it in, but bypassing the plug to save space
[10:48] <toastintheshell> yeah, I mean, or if there's a way to use usb directly as a p2p connection that's probably be better
[10:50] <toastintheshell> what I want is primarily ssh access, although xserver over ssh would be ideal for some things, possibly vnc as well, so speed would be kind of important, and making it available to linux as a network device would be necessary for all that as far as i know
[10:53] <immibis> Maybe you could find the chips they use in USB ethernet adapters, and wire two of them back-to-back
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[10:54] <toastintheshell> I'll probably just use wifi until I can get something set up, although the problem with that is once I get potentially dozens in a very compact cluster, I'll have a ton of noise in my wireless signal (I'd imagine)
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[10:56] <toastintheshell> immibis: yeah that's pretty much what I was thinking, although it seems a bit silly to wire an adapter to convert the signal, then another one to convert it right back, seems like there should be some way for usb to do it all in software
[10:57] <toastintheshell> although I'm willing to use whatever gives me the fastest connection
[10:58] <Plasmoduck> toastintheshell what program are you trying to run?
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[11:00] <toastintheshell> Plasmoduck: mostly ssh, ideally ssh with occasional xserver forwarding, and ideally with the option to transfer vnc or other remote desktop clients
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[11:00] <Plasmoduck> Why don't you just use ethernet and a switch?
[11:01] <toastintheshell> Plasmoduck: physical space limitations for this project (jamming multiple pis into a laptop chasis)
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[11:02] <immibis> good point, why does it have to be a SECOND network port?
[11:02] <immibis> can't you attach more stuff to the first port
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[11:04] <immibis> also i'm wondering what kind of weird laptop actually has multiple computers inside it
[11:04] <immibis> that's generally not how I expect a laptop to be :P
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[11:09] <toastintheshell> immibis: I'm screwing with my new pitop laptop: https://accounts.pi-top.com/products/pi-top/
[11:10] <toastintheshell> I'm pretty impressed with it so far
[11:11] <toastintheshell> want to play with some cluster computing projects I have in mind with it
[11:11] <immibis> that is cool
[11:11] <immibis> of course you won't get 8 hour battery life if you put a bunch more stuff in it
[11:11] <toastintheshell> ideally jam as many pis as I can fit in here
[11:12] <immibis> but you don't want an ethernet switch
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[11:12] <toastintheshell> immibis: lol, yeah a secondary battery and cooling are all part of the space limitations I'm working with
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[11:13] <immibis> if space > functionality then sure, use SLIP over the UART
[11:14] <toastintheshell> immibis: I will definitely look into that, thanks for the ideas
[11:14] <immibis> another idea that might end up a bit smaller than an ethernet switch, is using a bunch of relays to simulate plugging and unplugging cables into the main pi, controlled by its GPIO. then you'd only be able to talk to one at a time
[11:14] <immibis> the SPI interface can apparently run up to 125Mbps, subject to cable limitations (I don't think you'll get 125Mbps), which is faster than UART speeds. you could rig something custom based on SPI
[11:15] <toastintheshell> that sounds promising
[11:16] <toastintheshell> that's another good idea
[11:17] <toastintheshell> thanks immibis you've been super helpful, I'd better get to sleep, got work in a couple hours, lol
[11:17] <BurtyB> iirc the pi doesn't have a spi slave driver
[11:18] <pksato> WiFi?
[11:18] <toastintheshell> goodnight all, I'll be back tommorrow!
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[13:22] <becks`> hi, would a raspberry pi 3 in terms of CPU be considered an up- or downgrade compared to this device? https://www.pcengines.ch/apu1c4.htm
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[13:24] <gordonDrogon> it really depends on what you want to do.
[13:24] <indomitable> I mean cpu-wise it's inferior
[13:24] <indomitable> (the device you linked)
[13:24] <indomitable> but for everything else that device seems better
[13:25] <indomitable> also, size is a point
[13:25] <gordonDrogon> it's hard to tell just from the cpu - that has a x86 cpu - Pi is ARM - each have their benefits.
[13:25] <gordonDrogon> I've used the Alix boarsd in the past - found them very fast and reliable.
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[13:27] <gordonDrogon> the PC engines boards are also more expensive, but they make great little routers, voip boxes - that's what I used them for.
[13:28] <becks`> thanks a lot guys =)
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[13:29] <gordonDrogon> what do you plan using it for?
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[13:32] <becks`> gordonDrogon as web/email-server and just trying things out
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[13:40] <gordonDrogon> ok. well the Pi is a cheaper starting point, but IO is more limited than the PC engines boards.
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[13:53] <Lartza> becks`, email-server at home? Bless you for optimism
[13:54] <becks`> haha yeah, that's how the internet meant to be ;D
[13:54] <Lartza> Residential IP addresses are blacklisted by default
[13:55] <Lartza> And ISP's actively block mail
[13:55] <DanielTheFox> the internet also meant to have all sorts of traffic and nobody looking in between, spying
[13:55] <DanielTheFox> which is probably the reason all protocols were unencrypted first
[13:56] <DanielTheFox> (and, well, that the machines were 486 or below, they could have had some notable overhead if dealing with encryption)
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[13:56] <Lartza> I was just gonna say, how are you gonna encrypt anything on 80's CPUs :P
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[13:57] <Lartza> I'm sure people thought about it
[13:57] <Lartza> At least to some degree
[13:57] <DanielTheFox> it's not impossible
[13:57] * Encrypt all the things \o/
[13:57] <DanielTheFox> a 486 is far more powerful than a Commodore 64
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[13:57] <DanielTheFox> slowdown your Pi to 20 MHz
[13:57] <DanielTheFox> and (if possible) disable multithreading
[13:58] <DanielTheFox> *multicore
[13:58] <DanielTheFox> and try to use links2 and ssh
[13:58] <DanielTheFox> a GUI would be unusable at that speed, yes
[13:58] <Lartza> maxcpus=1 kernel parameter :)
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[13:58] <DanielTheFox> ...but hopefully if you were able to underclock to 20MHz, you probably know how to use Linux
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[13:59] <DanielTheFox> (bash, command-line stuff)
[13:59] * Lartza can but is not bored enough to start doing that :-D
[13:59] <DanielTheFox> I'll do so for you, don't worry :D
[13:59] <DanielTheFox> if possible, I'll record the results with a camera
[14:00] <Lartza> I can set virtualbox to a 1% execution cap
[14:00] <Lartza> That's 1% of a i7-3770k
[14:00] <Lartza> ;)
[14:00] <Lartza> All my vm's are gui though
[14:00] <DanielTheFox> still faster than a 486DX2-66
[14:00] <DanielTheFox> a i7 is incredibly fast
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[14:00] <Lartza> Definitely, even with a single core
[14:00] <DanielTheFox> yup
[14:00] <Lartza> what is it
[14:01] <Lartza> 37MHz at öeast
[14:01] <Lartza> *least
[14:01] <Lartza> And that's just raw clockspeed, other stuff matters too
[14:01] <DanielTheFox> (besides, I'm using mostly pre-2010 computers, and the Pi which isn't even moar powerful than 'em)
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[14:01] <Khaytsus> If we're going back to 486, we can't be having 512M of ram, no sir. Need to resrict it to 8 or 16m
[14:01] <DanielTheFox> Lartza: take in mind video speed, SSE instruction set
[14:01] <Lartza> This is my lovaley 2013 with upgrades beast :3
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[14:01] <Lartza> *lovely
[14:01] <DanielTheFox> yeah
[14:02] <Lartza> That hopefully won't break because I am poor
[14:02] <DanielTheFox> glad you had the money for it
[14:02] <Lartza> Yeah I did back then ;D
[14:02] <DanielTheFox> I'm stuck forever in Pentium 4 era
[14:02] <DanielTheFox> :P
[14:02] * friendofafriend presses the Turbo button.
[14:02] <Khaytsus> Pentium 4 was awful
[14:02] <Khaytsus> 3 was even better
[14:02] <DanielTheFox> it heats like crazy
[14:02] <Lartza> I upgraded from Pentium 4 > some thing between > 3770k
[14:02] <DanielTheFox> fan is high-pitch
[14:03] <Lartza> It was an Acer OEM PC so the CPU didn't really interest me, it was what it was
[14:03] <DanielTheFox> and the board is capped to 1066MHz, so I can't put 1333MHz stuff here
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[14:03] <DanielTheFox> this is a ThinkCentre
[14:03] <DanielTheFox> so not far away
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[14:03] <DanielTheFox> we're mostly OEM PC guys
[14:03] <Lartza> Pentium 4 was OEM too yeah but can't remember... possibly Fujitsu
[14:04] <Lartza> I played minecraft on that thing, friend hosted the server though
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[14:04] <Lartza> Also Linux instead of Windows, Java ran better and overall lighter system
[14:04] <DanielTheFox> (plus, gaming PC stuff here is incredibly expensive and it's only sold in places where you enter with clock and pants and you leave without underwear and where's the clock and the phone
[14:05] <Lartza> I'm in Finland so 24% VAT and import costs :(
[14:05] <Lartza> On top of the VAT that is, importer needs a cut of course
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[14:06] <DanielTheFox> so I'm stuck in Pentium 4 era
[14:06] <DanielTheFox> ...or maybe able to get a Core 2 Duo
[14:06] <Lartza> Cheapest RTX 2080 Ti is only 1245€ ;)
[14:06] <DanielTheFox> just hoping one core of a C2D 2.66GHz is faster than the whole P4 at 2.8GHz
[14:07] <DanielTheFox> regardless, it'll heat less and cause less fan annoyance
[14:07] <Lartza> It... might be
[14:07] <Lartza> Hmm maybe not with those clocks
[14:07] <DanielTheFox> boring
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[14:08] <DanielTheFox> don't think about gaming stuff
[14:08] <DanielTheFox> PSU is miniATX 200W
[14:08] <Lartza> The highly non-trusthworthy userbenchmark.com shows 86% single-core increase
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[14:08] <Lartza> E8400 @ 3GHz wwould get you over the 100% mark
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[14:08] <DanielTheFox> and the PCI/PCIe-x1 riser appears to claim that you shouldn't pass more than 10W through it
[14:09] <DanielTheFox> so, well, only network cards, modems and early SVGA video cards on it
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[14:11] <DanielTheFox> Lartza: so the borderline here is 100W (max power), FSB up to 1066MHz, socket LGA775
[14:11] <Lartza> Hehe
[14:11] <Lartza> I mean my CPU can run with 100W, video card certainly not :P
[14:12] <DanielTheFox> avoid the Pentium D
[14:12] <DanielTheFox> Lartza: I mean, the CPU you can stuff there
[14:12] <DanielTheFox> :P
[14:12] <DanielTheFox> C2D fits there, it's supposedly 65W
[14:12] <DanielTheFox> C2Q consumes notably more
[14:13] <Lartza> E6600 shows a total system load of 156W in at least one test
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[14:13] <DanielTheFox> yup, so keep away it
[14:14] <DanielTheFox> again, I prefer the C2D, up to 2.66GHz (which is known to work with this motherboard)
[14:14] <DanielTheFox> I'm rejectful to spend money on stuff that won't work
[14:15] <DanielTheFox> there are faster clock speeds with FSB at 1066MHz, but I haven't seen people using them with this mobo
[14:15] <Khaytsus> This is the saddest conest ver
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[14:15] <DanielTheFox> on the other hand
[14:16] <Lartza> E6600 is a c2d...
[14:16] <DanielTheFox> the Pi 3B+ using all four cores and staying at either 1.4 or 1.2 GHz is between my netbook (with Atom N270) and the Pentium 4 at 2.8GHz
[14:19] <DanielTheFox> otherwise, you can suggest me which miniATX PSU exists that is more powerful (although I prefer an efficient one over a hyper powerful one)
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[14:20] <fred__tv_> Hi, what network manager is running in latest raspbian ?
[14:20] <Lartza> do you mean micro atx?
[14:20] <DanielTheFox> Lartza: it has similar connectors to ATX, but physically smaller
[14:21] <Lartza> yeah but m is for micro not mini :P
[14:21] <DanielTheFox> probably then?
[14:21] <Lartza> there's micro ATX and mini ITX
[14:21] <DanielTheFox> ok
[14:21] <DanielTheFox> ok, then micro ATX
[14:21] <DanielTheFox> :P
[14:21] <shiftplusone> fred__tv_: dhcpcd
[14:21] <Lartza> Except I don't think ITX is used for PSU sizes
[14:21] <Lartza> SFX and TFX are though
[14:21] <DanielTheFox> the whole computer is two DVD drives high
[14:21] <fred__tv_> Thanks
[14:22] <DanielTheFox> basically, almost the same height as an old-school full-height 5.25" diskette drive
[14:23] <Lartza> I mean sfx is 126x65x101mm or something
[14:23] <Lartza> *125
[14:23] <DanielTheFox> shiftplusone: what should be disabled in order to let ifupdown /etc/network/interfaces network manager to take over the Pi? (from the default Raspbian configuration)
[14:24] <Lartza> And you easily find those at least up to 450W
[14:24] <shiftplusone> DanielTheFox: it's configured not to run if ifupdown is configured, but you can also run systemctl disable dhcpcd
[14:24] <DanielTheFox> and any caveat regarding wlan?
[14:25] <shiftplusone> the desktop applet won't work and you'll need to make sure you configure ifupdown to run wpa_supplicant.
[14:25] <DanielTheFox> ok
[14:25] <DanielTheFox> no worries
[14:26] <DanielTheFox> I'm kinda more used to ifupdown :D
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[14:26] <friendofafriend> You called?
[14:27] <DanielTheFox> friendofafriend: yes
[14:27] <DanielTheFox> the phone is doing those angry beeps reminding us you forgot to hang the phone
[14:28] <friendofafriend> I like when it goes from normal hang up the phone to YOU BETTER HANG UP THE PHONE AND I MEAN IT!
[14:29] <friendofafriend> Are you rocking DMS-100 switches there?
[14:29] <DanielTheFox> no :(
[14:30] <DanielTheFox> fairly expensive, no phone lines here (but I should really set a PBX local phone "provider" here at home)
[14:30] <DanielTheFox> and getting some phones
[14:30] <friendofafriend> And start running service to your neighbors, maybe. Gosh.
[14:30] <DanielTheFox> kinda
[14:31] <DanielTheFox> so we can talk across rooms
[14:31] <friendofafriend> Become the phone company, DanielTheFox.
[14:31] <DanielTheFox> :P
[14:31] <DanielTheFox> that requires some investment
[14:32] <DanielTheFox> the town has no phone lines, so if I happen to earn lots of money (somehow, let's discuss that later) I should give phone lines and phones (all analog) in this town, and start charging super cheap 5 USD/month
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[14:33] <Plasmoduck> DanielTheFox where do you live?
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[14:33] <DanielTheFox> small rural town in Mexico, fairly close to Guatemala (I can reach over there with a bicycle)
[14:34] <DanielTheFox> no paved streets
[14:35] <RoyK> but hey - internet access :)
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[14:35] <DanielTheFox> yes
[14:35] <DanielTheFox> terrestrial antennas are magic
[14:35] <DanielTheFox> bringing the signal from a city 40 km. away, without having to dig wires
[14:36] <RoyK> what bandwidth are you getting from that?
[14:36] <DanielTheFox> what we paid for
[14:36] <DanielTheFox> 1 MB/s symmetric
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[14:36] <RoyK> not a lot…
[14:36] <DanielTheFox> indeed
[14:36] * RoyK has 300Mbps symmetric
[14:36] <DanielTheFox> but we're the fastest ones in the town :)
[14:36] <Lartza> I mean that's 10mbps in th emiddle of nowhere?
[14:37] <Lartza> :)
[14:37] <Lartza> I would have expected less
[14:37] <DanielTheFox> like, most users here use cellphones
[14:37] <DanielTheFox> and the ISP cap semi-public antennas (meant for cellphones, replacing non-existent 3G signal) to 100 KB/s symmetric
[14:37] <DanielTheFox> with airport-like hotspots where the AP is unencrypted
[14:38] <DanielTheFox> but you still have to put your password in an HTML page
[14:38] <Lartza> No symmetry here in wired, 100/10mbps VDSL2
[14:38] <Lartza> 100/100 LTE though
[14:39] <DanielTheFox> my grandma there in the city has 10/2
[14:39] <Lartza> Which is worse than your antenna?
[14:39] <DanielTheFox> yes, but she paid way less
[14:40] <Lartza> Just to be sure you actually meant MB
[14:40] <Lartza> Ah yeah probably
[14:40] <DanielTheFox> and has an actual phone line
[14:40] <DanielTheFox> we don't
[14:40] <DanielTheFox> she has VDSL
[14:40] <Lartza> I pay 5.7$ for my 100/10
[14:40] <Lartza> :P
[14:40] <DanielTheFox> the nice thing about her line is that she has an actual public IP address (we don't)
[14:41] <DanielTheFox> and if you hack their PPP credentials (which are all the same in the town, generic, burned in the routers themselves' firmware) and put the router as VDSL->PPPoE bridge, you can get as many IP addresses as you want
[14:41] <DanielTheFox> public IPv4
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[14:42] <fred__tv_> why ssh connection refused after switched to static ip address ?
[14:42] <RoyK> DanielTheFox: any ipv6 there?
[14:45] <RoyK> DanielTheFox: have people down there seen the use of 3d printers?
[14:45] <DanielTheFox> of course only on TV
[14:46] <Snert> fred__tv_, edit your .ssh.known_hosts file. Remove the old key for your old address before the change.
[14:46] * RoyK only has two
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[14:46] <Snert> fred__tv_, .ssh/known_hosts file.
[14:46] <DanielTheFox> as most of us mostly care chicken (cheap lowcost meat, highly versatile food), the town has less than 2k persons
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[14:47] <DanielTheFox> I don't think there's anybody else into techy stuff
[14:47] <DanielTheFox> if I find one, I'll tell him about IRC and we'll chat 'round the place
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[14:48] <RoyK> I'd guess the kids would love a 3d printer in such a village :)
[14:48] <DanielTheFox> they loved the Walkman I brought once
[14:48] <DanielTheFox> :P
[14:48] <DanielTheFox> (a cassette Walkman, you might be guessing)
[14:48] <RoyK> yeah - I guessed so
[14:49] <RoyK> we may be kicking out an old 3d printer from work soon
[14:49] <RoyK> perhaps we can just ship it down there
[14:49] <DanielTheFox> am I the only who imagines the whole text block on IRC collapsing due to a small column of text holding it up?
[14:49] <DanielTheFox> physics apply even where they shouldn't :)
[14:50] <fred__tv_> Snert: cannot find that file...
[14:50] <DanielTheFox> .ssh/known_hosts
[14:51] <DanielTheFox> ^ fred__tv_:
[14:51] <DanielTheFox> the one up there has a small typo :)
[14:51] <Snert> https://serverfault.com/questions/29262/how-to-manage-my-ssh-known-hosts-file
[14:51] <Snert> it's googalicious :)
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[14:52] <DanielTheFox> RoyK: if you were gonna ship stuff here, I'd appreciate more a Pi Zero W (or actually a box full of random working models of Pi, with the size and cost (whatever is less) of said 3D printer you were gonna give :P
[14:53] <leftyfb> fred__tv_: when you changed to a static ip, was it a different ip or new ip?
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[14:53] <DanielTheFox> a 3D printer is fancy, a bunch of RPi-s are useful :)
[14:53] <fred__tv_> same subnet, different ip
[14:53] <leftyfb> fred__tv_: then ssh to the new ip
[14:54] <RoyK> DanielTheFox: what's the average wages there, monthly?
[14:54] <DanielTheFox> uhh
[14:54] <fred__tv_> it gives me connection refused
[14:54] <leftyfb> fred__tv_: then you either didn't set the ip properly or there's a duplicate ip on the network
[14:54] <DanielTheFox> lawn mowers (using machete) appear to earn 100 MXN a day (up to 4 hours under such heavy work)
[14:55] <leftyfb> fred__tv_: or maybe the pi requires you to restart the ssh daemon when changing the ip address in order to bind to the new ip.
[14:55] <DanielTheFox> albañil (low-grade house builders) are 400 MXN the day (up to 6-8 hours, YMMV)
[14:55] <DanielTheFox> self-employed chicken carers of course vary a lot
[14:56] <DanielTheFox> minimum legal wage is 80 MXN for 8 work hours
[14:56] <DanielTheFox> ...or actually 100 MXN nowadays?
[14:56] <DanielTheFox> the new president changed so much things, I'm no longer sure
[14:56] <DanielTheFox> for easy math, 1 USD = 20 MXN
[14:56] <fred__tv_> service ssh restart fix the problem, weird, as after modify dhcpdc.conf I have rebooted pi....
[14:57] <RoyK> DanielTheFox: obviously, that makes it a wee bit difficult to get electronics, even from china
[14:57] <RoyK> DanielTheFox: I live in Norway…
[14:57] <DanielTheFox> that, and shipping doesn't reach here
[14:57] <DanielTheFox> you must ask them to store in the office there
[14:58] <DanielTheFox> and drive to the city and grab them
[14:58] <DanielTheFox> not an horrible worry, the city is 1 hour away, and you don't go specifically for that
[14:58] <RoyK> if you have a car…
[14:58] <DanielTheFox> we do
[14:58] <DanielTheFox> the same car since 18 years ago
[14:58] <DanielTheFox> very well cared, it doesn't smoke nor does weird noises
[14:59] <fred__tv_> none, still after rebooting pi , it refuse ssh until I restart ssh very strange
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[14:59] <RoyK> I don't, but then, there's public transport in OSlo
[14:59] <friendofafriend> Excellent job keeping the car going!
[14:59] <DanielTheFox> there are "combi" here that, for a low price, can carry you from one place to another in the same route
[15:00] <DanielTheFox> undersized buses, you know
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[15:00] <DanielTheFox> full-size bus wouldn't be able to use the paved road here, the state of the road is questionable as there has not been any official maintenance since it was built over 22 years ago
[15:01] <DanielTheFox> if you dodge the holes on the road, you're fine
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[15:04] <fred__tv_> leftyfb: what a noob, ssh server is not enabled by default at boot..... few years I played with pi no more.....
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[15:21] <Plasmoduck> Hi friendofafriend
[15:21] <indomitable> fred__tv_, huh?
[15:22] <indomitable> fred__tv_, in modern pis you set this in the config for rpi
[15:22] <fred__tv_> just ran raspi-config and enabled...
[15:24] <Snert> if you get the ugly message about keys changing you'll need to delete .ssh/known_hosts
[15:24] <Snert> or edit out the line about your old ip addy.
[15:24] <Snert> this will happen in your travels.
[15:25] <Plasmoduck> DanielTheFox have you ever been to Baja?
[15:25] <Plasmoduck> I want to go riding a dirt bike down there, looks like fun.
[15:25] <friendofafriend> Howdy, Plasmoduck! How goes the OpenWRT?
[15:25] <fred__tv_> Snert: already happened times ago..... now was just SSH not running...
[15:27] <Plasmoduck> friendofafriend yeah, good, except I can't get my VPN to work with it. I used this page since it's the provider I use, but it won't work (I think cause my setup is different, cause I am connected to internet via wifi and sharing that via ethernet to my other devices. https://support.goldenfrog.com/hc/en-us/articles/360005016091-VyprVPN-OpenVPN-Setup-for-OpenWRT
[15:27] <Plasmoduck> friendofafriend is you take a look at the link, can you see anything I have to change / do differently to get it working with my setup?
[15:27] <friendofafriend> Yeah, I read over that. Was there anything telling in the logs?
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[15:28] <Plasmoduck> Not
[15:28] <hodapp> hrmph. I had my VPN set up in OpenWrt - but then ran into problems because a few specific sites, like Netflix, don't like them
[15:28] <hodapp> and I didn't bother yet to set up whitelists that bypass the VPN
[15:28] <friendofafriend> Plasmoduck: Might want to launch openvpn directly from the command line.
[15:29] <Plasmoduck> Nope, it says in Network > Interfaces (for VPN tun0 Error: Network device is not present)
[15:29] <Plasmoduck> So something isn't configured correctly
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[15:32] <friendofafriend> Right, so a smart way to get some more information about what's wrong is to ssh into OpenWRT and execute openvpn directly.
[15:33] <friendofafriend> Chances are, you'll get an error message that leads you pretty close to the problem.
[15:34] <janco> hey
[15:34] <friendofafriend> Howdy, janco.
[15:34] <janco> due an accident last night the RX pin of my rpi is broken
[15:35] <janco> so I guess I also can't use the bluetooth anymore, can I?
[15:36] <friendofafriend> The RX pin? What RX pin, for UART?
[15:36] <janco> yes, on the gpio/header
[15:36] <friendofafriend> Bluetooth isn't related.
[15:36] <janco> Well it is right? bluetooth is also using uart ?
[15:36] <janco> or am I completely wrong now
[15:37] <friendofafriend> Nope, Bluetooth is built into the wifi chip.
[15:37] <janco> By default, on Raspberry Pis equipped with the wireless/Bluetooth module (Raspberry Pi 3 and Raspberry Pi Zero W), the PL011 UART is connected to the Bluetooth module, while the mini UART is used as the primary UART and will have a Linux console on it. On all other models, the PL011 is used as the primary UART.
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[15:37] <janco> ah; so there are 2 uart modules
[15:38] <gordonDrogon> yes
[15:38] <gordonDrogon> even so, breaking a pin off won't affect internal use.
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[15:38] <gordonDrogon> just make it slightly inconvenient to use the external one ..
[15:38] <fred__tv_> Any advice to install/setup xorg on a pi with Elegoo 3.5" monitor ?
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[15:39] <janco> gordonDrogon: well not exactly breaking a pin off
[15:39] <janco> that wouldn't be a problem
[15:39] <janco> but it isn't working anymore; internally
[15:40] <janco> And I'm not sure what the cause is :/
[15:41] <n0a110w> savage
[15:41] <janco> well a series of events happend..
[15:41] * friendofafriend imagines a mushroom cloud.
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[15:42] <janco> I was working on a custom pcb; and I knocked something over on my desk. A loose ground wire hit a resistor where was ~8 volts on.. But also a ground wire to that board broke lose at the same time
[15:43] <janco> Most things where working though; but 5 minutes later suddenly the 5v wall power supply to my raspberry pi got a weird sound and smell
[15:43] <janco> and then the power was cut off
[15:43] <janco> so not sure what killed it :/
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[15:46] <gordonDrogon> right, so you've lost some magic smoke...
[15:46] <gordonDrogon> but maybe not all of it? does the Pi boot OK now?
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[16:11] <DanielTheFox> so someone sends commands to Bluetooth module... through a UART?
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[16:25] <hodapp> DanielTheFox: this is fairly common for Bluetooth via the HCI protocol
[16:25] <hodapp> though usually one doesn't use it directly in that manner
[16:26] <DanielTheFox> phew :P
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[16:42] <r3> Khaytsus: you think if I wrung out my [ https://media.digikey.com/Photos/Hakko/MFG_FA-400_up.jpg ] I could then collect all the magic smoke that it has sucked out?
[16:43] <r3> maybe the black market would be interested in just the filter so they could do their own extraction?
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[16:45] * d0rm0us3 uses herbal blends to generate magic smoke
[16:46] <Khaytsus> r3: Creating and collecting the smoke is easy. Re-integrating it back in is where the money is.
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[16:48] <r3> hrm, perhaps some form of reverse solder-sucker that shoots it back into components and quickly seals them? ;)
[16:50] <janco> gordonDrogon: yes the pi did boot fine
[16:50] <janco> and everything works fine
[16:50] <janco> also the other PCB (which has both an attiny and esp12 and some other stuff on it) works fine..
[16:50] <janco> so I'm not sure what caused the issue at all..
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[16:56] <janco> DanielTheFox: it's internally connected to the uart interface of the cpu..
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[17:01] <JacobWrede> hi, I have installed proftpd on my RPI 3 B+. all connection is within the routers network. i can connect to the ftp server only when the client and server are not on the same wifi signal (2,4 or 5ghz). I have also installed a filezilla ftp server on window, and there i does not matter if the client or server is on the same or different wifi signal. Any idea why this could be an issue?
[17:02] <gordonDrogon> are they on the same LAN?
[17:02] <JacobWrede> yep
[17:02] <gordonDrogon> then it ought to work... (famous last words)
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[17:03] <JacobWrede> https://retropie.org.uk/forum/topic/17956/can-t-login-with-filezilla-through-sftp/12 i wound this comment, where they claim the issue is only on 5ghz. However we dont know if their client is on 2,4 or 5
[17:03] <JacobWrede> i found this comment*
[17:03] <gordonDrogon> the wireless frequency should not be an issue here.
[17:04] <gordonDrogon> but if different LANs via a router (or 2) then there can be issues with FTP.
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[17:04] <Khaytsus> Network is all that matters; the connection type is irrelevant.. wifi, wired, 2.4, 5g, etc
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[17:07] <JacobWrede> hmm i just notice one thing. When the client and server is on the same wifi ( in this case 2,4). Then the ftp cliented switched over to use passive mode and then i guess i might have an issue with passive ports not been setup. However its odd that it changes to passive, just beucase its on the same wifi signal
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[17:07] <Khaytsus> Again; _network_ is the only thing that matters.
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[17:09] <Khaytsus> I'm not sure the right channel for sorting out network issues but IMO it is'n't here
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[17:10] <JacobWrede> i can agree to that, but its seems its only when i have a ftp server running on the RPI. Anyway i just wanted to check if it was a known issue and maybe a fix for it :)
[17:11] <Khaytsus> Would not be pi specific at all.
[17:12] <Khaytsus> 2.4 and 5 would be the same if the network is the same.
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[17:18] <gordonDrogon> ie. check IP address and netmask.
[17:18] <gordonDrogon> (and default router/gateway)
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[17:45] <shiftplusone> yikes... booting buster on an old pi 1 is taking forever. SystemD doesn't seem great on a single core processor.
[17:46] <BurtyB> sounds like a perfect time to switch back ;)
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[17:47] <shiftplusone> I wouldn't be against that
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[17:48] <shiftplusone> services are starting to time out rather than starting
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[17:49] <BurtyB> :(
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[19:11] <indomitable> huh, you can put windows 10 on raspberry pis now
[19:11] <indomitable> interesting
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[19:18] <stiv> interesting vs useful?
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[19:19] <gordonDrogon> indomitable, It's Win 10 IoT, and it's been available for a couple of years now.
[19:19] <stiv> ah. thanks gordonDrogon. that is a bit different
[19:20] <indomitable> gordonDrogon, You misunderstand.
[19:20] <indomitable> I'm talking about Windows 10 ARM.
[19:20] <Fulgen> gordonDrogon: some guy managed to run full Windows 10 on the Pi
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[19:20] <Fulgen> slow as hell, but he did it
[19:20] <DanielTheFox> W10 is naturally slow as hell
[19:20] <indomitable> This is rue.
[19:20] <indomitable> true*
[19:20] <gordonDrogon> oh well. can't think why but there you are.
[19:20] <indomitable> So are you though, DanielTheFox, so that seems like a match made in heaven.
[19:20] <indomitable> :P
[19:20] <stiv> when all your memory is taken up by the operating system...
[19:21] <DanielTheFox> minimum computer value requirements, $300
[19:21] <DanielTheFox> recommended $900
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[19:31] <only42> Hi al
[19:31] <only42> all*
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[19:36] <gordonDrogon> good time of day.
[19:36] <DanielTheFox> TOD
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[20:41] <davr0s> whats the story with youtube on a r-pi.. is the video playback in a browser just not as good as a dedicated player.. would it theoretically be possible to make a raspberry pi youtube client application which doesn't run in a browser (searching/browsing videos) .. is there a neat way to do it.i see people talking about just downloading videos to watch standalone
[20:44] <Khaytsus> davr0s: isn't kweb still the recommended best method?
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[20:44] <davr0s> not familiar , let me google
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[20:52] <davr0s> not essential.. i have other devices i can use for youtube. plenty else to do with a pi
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[22:00] <MikeRL> Ugh. I've went through several official Pi disaplys on Amazon and all of them return vertical rainbow lines.
[22:01] <MikeRL> I wonder what that even means? Something bad on the Pi or on the display?
[22:01] <Khaytsus> Been married 9 times? Hell, maybe it's you.
[22:02] <MikeRL> What can cause vertical lines to appear on the dispaly, anyhow?
[22:02] <MikeRL> *display
[22:02] <stevest> Sounds like you ran displayVerticalLines()
[22:02] <Khaytsus> Or didn't connect the cable right
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[22:03] <MikeRL> I wonder if the Pi is broken.... Can't be. I didn't notice anything break.
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[22:36] <gordonDrogon> east check - get another Pi.
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[23:07] <MikeRL> Only thing I can think of is I managed to damage the plastic connector on the Pi itself.
[23:08] <MikeRL> So I ordered a replacement Pi. Not like they're that expensive.
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[23:08] <MikeRL> I can keep the one I have with a broken video cable connected to the tv.
[23:09] <MikeRL> HDMI still works. I need time to deal with electronics or I break them.
[23:09] <MikeRL> Lesson learned. I hope.
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[23:27] * r3 (~r3@ntp/member/r3) Quit (Read error: Connection reset by peer)
[23:28] * TheSin (~TheSin@gateway.bluefalls.ca) Quit (Quit: Client exiting)
[23:29] * saidi (~saidi@unaffiliated/saidi) Quit (Client Quit)
[23:30] * b7219264 (b7219264@gateway/vpn/privateinternetaccess/b7219264) Quit (Read error: Connection reset by peer)
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[23:40] * Silversword (silverswor@gateway/vpn/privateinternetaccess/silversword) Quit (Remote host closed the connection)
[23:41] * MrCrackPotBuilde (~MrCrackPo@161.142.36.32) Quit (Remote host closed the connection)
[23:41] * CyberManifest (~CyberMani@r74-192-56-238.vctrcmta01.vctatx.tl.dh.suddenlink.net) has joined #raspberrypi
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[23:49] * tesseract (~tesseract@49.105.136.77.rev.sfr.net) Quit (Quit: Leaving)
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