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IRC Log for 2019-02-18

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[0:08] <MacGalempsy> good evening, I am curious if anyone has options for a round cable for the PiCam? I see flat and the HDMI connector, but I just want round
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[0:13] <Khaytsus> You only get 15cm or so on the cable, not sure why you'd need something round
[0:15] <surrealpie> i flashed raspbian on usb with: "dd if=<file>.img of=/dev/sdc bs=4M", i want to boot from usb flash, without sdcard but so far the pi doesn't seem to boot
[0:15] <DanielTheFox> not all USBs are made equal
[0:16] <DanielTheFox> hopefully you're using a 3B+ or you burned the correct OTP bit on the 3B
[0:16] <surrealpie> yes
[0:16] <surrealpie> 3B+
[0:16] <BurtyB> Khaytsus, where "or so" can be meters
[0:17] <DanielTheFox> and yes, you'll find more troubles if using a USB3 stick
[0:17] <DanielTheFox> slight incompatibilities with Pi's firmware
[0:17] <DanielTheFox> you're more likely to succeed with a plain USB2 flash stick
[0:17] <surrealpie> i have ext4 filesystem on usb flash
[0:18] <surrealpie> should i reformat to fat32
[0:18] <DanielTheFox> the first partition is FAT32?
[0:18] <DanielTheFox> it has to be
[0:18] <DanielTheFox> the second onwards can be anything, as they'll be initially ignored by the firmware
[0:18] <surrealpie> yeah, first is fat32
[0:18] <DanielTheFox> and it'll be software's duty to play with them
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[0:19] <DanielTheFox> ok
[0:19] <DanielTheFox> either way
[0:19] <surrealpie> basically im looking for HDMI output to see if it's booted, is there a better way
[0:19] <DanielTheFox> using wired ethernet?
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[0:20] <surrealpie> good idea lol
[0:20] <DanielTheFox> surrealpie, before you do it
[0:21] <DanielTheFox> cover your Pi with your hand
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[0:21] <DanielTheFox> and watch it closely
[0:21] <DanielTheFox> the Ethernet port has two LEDs
[0:21] <DanielTheFox> when the computer just booted, both LEDs are on, but very dim
[0:22] <DanielTheFox> once some initialization happens, the LEDs should go off (wire is not connected) or the proper 100/1000Mbps LED will turn on if there's a working wire
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[0:23] <surrealpie> ok i power cycled the board and it boots now, getting HDMI
[0:23] <MacGalempsy> I would like a round cable, so it can be in a hidden mount
[0:23] <surrealpie> that's random man
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[0:24] <surrealpie> ls
[0:24] <surrealpie> oh lol that was meant for the pi
[0:24] <surrealpie> xD
[0:25] <DanielTheFox> it happens to me
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[0:25] <DanielTheFox> sometimes I put Linux commands onto IRC
[0:25] <DanielTheFox> more often it's cd, ls and df -h
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[0:26] * DanielTheFox toasts toastintheshell
[0:26] <toastintheshell> DanielTheFox: salut!
[0:27] <DanielTheFox> how are you?
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[0:27] <toastintheshell> great, little sore, just got back from snowboarding!
[0:27] <DanielTheFox> I'm uploading a lot of data onto a VPS :)
[0:28] <toastintheshell> raspi .img.gz files I hope
[0:28] <DanielTheFox> nope, just backups from my computers
[0:28] <DanielTheFox> the Pi is already backed up :)
[0:30] <toastintheshell> I'm loving this new pitop latptop case, got a 3b+ in there, gonna squeeze as many more in as I can fit
[0:30] <toastintheshell> just need to figure out how to network them all without creating a wifi storm
[0:31] <surrealpie> i was powering the pi from a laptop usb port
[0:31] <surrealpie> no wonder my laptop cant source 2.5A duh
[0:31] <toastintheshell> DanielTheFox: what vps are you using? I need to get some cloud
[0:32] <DanielTheFox> many, but currently dumping stuff to AWS
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[0:33] <toastintheshell> have you tried linode?
[0:33] <DanielTheFox> nop
[0:33] <Khaytsus> You have the bandwidth for backups to the cloud?
[0:34] <DanielTheFox> not really
[0:34] <DanielTheFox> horrible 1 MB/s
[0:35] <DanielTheFox> the VPS is 70 times faster
[0:35] <Khaytsus> Yeah, I don't back anything up to the cloud like that.. pictures etc yeah
[0:35] <DanielTheFox> on the other hand, storage is very cheap
[0:36] <Khaytsus> all my Linux machines back themselves up locally for retriving changed/deleted data, and daily backed up to the server.. so the data on each is on 3 disks generally
[0:37] <DanielTheFox> yes, another caveat against me, my main 500 GB HDD recently filled up
[0:37] <Khaytsus> the pi's aren't backed up that way, but they are just a basic rsync I do periodically
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[1:21] <Wafficus> can anyone help me with port forwarding my minecraft server on my raspberry pi?
[1:23] <Wafficus> / buffer 2
[1:24] <friendofafriend> Wafficus: Lots of ways. Can you login to your router?
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[1:25] <Wafficus> yes
[1:26] <Wafficus> so the issue I'm having is that I have the ip of the pi in the router's port forwarding settings
[1:26] <Wafficus> and opened up the ports as suggested via a minecraft for raspberry pi guide
[1:27] <friendofafriend> Okie doke. That's port 25565 TCP, right?
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[1:28] <Wafficus> start port: 19132
[1:28] <Wafficus> end port 25565
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[1:28] <Wafficus> that's what I have for "TCP & UDP"
[1:29] <friendofafriend> That's odd, all the information I see just forwards port 25565.
[1:29] <leftyfb> you shouldn't have to forward that many ports
[1:29] <Wafficus> ok so just that number should be the start and end port number?
[1:29] <Wafficus> that would be okay to leave one of them blank?
[1:29] <friendofafriend> It sounds like you're forwarding a range, and not a port.
[1:29] <Wafficus> because they have a "start port" and end port field
[1:30] <leftyfb> put 25565 for both
[1:30] <Wafficus> well they have the range option, but I'm not sure if I could leave either blank
[1:30] <Wafficus> gotcha will try that
[1:30] <friendofafriend> Right, and even better, if there's some place where you can forward a single port and not a range in your router, that would be best.
[1:30] <Wafficus> I did start port and end port 25565
[1:31] <Wafficus> I mean theoretically I can probably leave the end port blank
[1:31] <Wafficus> but I'll try both for now as 25565
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[1:34] <faLUCE> Hello. I have two wifi network interfaces on my raspberry. the first one is the embedded one, the second one is an usb dongle (used as a hotspot). I see "wlan0" and "wlan1", but how can I know which one is the hotspot and which one is the client?
[1:35] <r3> unplug the dongle and look again?
[1:35] <faLUCE> I need that the embedded one connects to internet, while the usb dongle acts as hotspot.
[1:35] <Wafficus> yeah its still giving me connection time out issues when my brother tries logging in
[1:35] <Wafficus> anything I can do or i HAVE to follow a static ip guide for the pi?
[1:35] <faLUCE> do I have to hardlink wlan0 to what?
[1:36] <friendofafriend> faLUCE: You'd check by MAC address, because MAC never changes.
[1:36] <friendofafriend> And you can set which device is which permanently by udev.
[1:36] <grkblood13> are the raspbian repos down right now?
[1:37] <faLUCE> friendofafriend: but in this way I have to create a link with the MAC, and it changes when I change the raspberry
[1:37] <friendofafriend> No, the MAC does not change.
[1:37] <faLUCE> (I mean, if I use the same sd on another raspberry)
[1:37] <friendofafriend> Oh, sure. Well, the MAC of the dongle will not change.
[1:37] <faLUCE> but I can use another dongle on another raspberry
[1:37] <friendofafriend> So you can simple link the MAC of the dongle to wlan1.
[1:38] <friendofafriend> simply**
[1:38] <faLUCE> I wonder if is there a more elegant solution
[1:38] <friendofafriend> faLUCE: That's pretty elegant, as solutions go. It's just a udev rule.
[1:39] <faLUCE> but there should be a better way than discovering the mac
[1:39] <faLUCE> I don't want to configure the rule at each installation of my system
[1:39] <friendofafriend> If you're just swapping a card around, you'd only set a rule for the wireless dongle.
[1:40] <faLUCE> friendofafriend: I have tons of rules to set
[1:40] <friendofafriend> There's some discussion of it here, in the forums. https://www.raspberrypi.org/forums/viewtopic.php?t=110229
[1:40] <Wafficus> hey so I made a static ip address for the pi now
[1:40] <faLUCE> I don't want to add another one
[1:40] <Wafficus> its the same as my internal ip address when I SSH into it
[1:40] <Wafficus> should it be okay for my minecraft server?
[1:40] <Wafficus> I have: interface eth0
[1:40] <Wafficus> static ip_address=(ip address of what I ssh into the pi itself)
[1:40] <friendofafriend> Wafficus: Right, port forwarding will work with a static address or DHCP lease.
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[1:41] <Wafficus> ok so it should be good to go if my router has this static ip as well?
[1:41] <friendofafriend> If you're still having problems, you could also use the tool miniupnpc (sudo apt-get install miniupnpc).
[1:42] <friendofafriend> Wafficus: And then you can simple "upnpc -r 25565 TCP". You don't even have to be root.
[1:42] <friendofafriend> Geez, simply**, again.
[1:42] <Wafficus> gotcha, bookmarked the page just in case
[1:43] <Wafficus> getting close, feels fun so far ^_^
[1:43] <Wafficus> if it doesn't work, well at least it works on my lan so far, super pumped to make this online soon this week
[1:43] <friendofafriend> Bookmarked what page, Wafficus?
[1:43] <Wafficus> the page about miniupnpc
[1:43] <friendofafriend> Oh sure, it's a neat tool
[1:43] <Wafficus> looks like a good tool for a newbie like me
[1:44] <friendofafriend> Chances are your router is running uPnP, it's usually on by default.
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[1:45] <Wafficus> hmm good to know
[1:45] <Wafficus> its a Technicolor router from Spectrum that they gave us
[1:45] <Wafficus> so that's probably the issue where its like, no matter how many tweaks on the port forwarding settings that I do, it might not be able to do this
[1:46] <friendofafriend> Not being able to open ports breaks lots of stuff, so there's a good chance you can get it working just fine.
[1:46] <Wafficus> I'll keep you updated
[1:46] <friendofafriend> If you need to test that a port is open on your router, you might try using this. http://www.ipv6scanner.com/cgi-bin/main.py
[1:46] <Wafficus> I tried 25565 as just the starting port, but the GUI requires a starting and end port too
[1:46] <Wafficus> so its just set to 25565 for the time being
[1:47] * friendofafriend still suspects there's single port forwarding somewhere in the UI, not a range.
[1:47] <Wafficus> its the only parts on the port forwarding available
[1:47] <Wafficus> I wish it were just one too
[1:48] <Wafficus> I tried that port tester
[1:48] <Wafficus> it recognizes 25565 for minecraft but says its filtered
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[1:48] <Wafficus> Filtered is defined on the right to say: Filtered: the port is blocked by firewall or other network obstacle
[1:49] <Wafficus> :/
[1:49] <Wafficus> dang
[1:50] <Wafficus> friendofafriend: is there anything else I can do even with the static ip enabled on the pi?
[1:50] <Wafficus> my bro tried connecting again, same timed out connection issue
[1:56] <Wafficus> how do I determine the domain_name_servers variable?
[1:57] <Wafficus> on the guide it says that its the ip adress of my DNS (IP Address of my router)
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[1:59] <friendofafriend> Wafficus: I'd try that upnpc command.
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[1:59] <friendofafriend> And if you want a domain name, you'd have to either register for one, or get a free dynamic DNS name through a service like no-ip.com.
[2:00] <Wafficus> I don't want a domain name
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[2:00] <Wafficus> just want to get this server up and running tbh
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[2:01] <Wafficus> is that all that is about though, just registering a domain name too?
[2:01] <friendofafriend> Then try running upnpc, tbh.
[2:01] <Wafficus> ok I'll try it another time thanks
[2:01] <Wafficus> well wait
[2:01] <Wafficus> can you help me identify just that one variable?
[2:01] <Wafficus> it would be super helpful to at least try
[2:01] <friendofafriend> Just what one variable.
[2:01] <Wafficus> https://www.modmypi.com/blog/how-to-give-your-raspberry-pi-a-static-ip-address-update
[2:02] <Wafficus> the "domain_name_servers" variable in this guide
[2:02] <friendofafriend> That's for your DNS servers, it should be set to your router's IP address. Probably something like 192.168.1.1
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[2:03] <friendofafriend> The address that you're browsing to for your router's administrative interface.
[2:03] <Khaytsus> What does any of this have to do with a pi
[2:04] <Wafficus> yeah I have it set to 192.168.0.1
[2:04] <Wafficus> Khaytsus: its port forwarding a minecraft server on a Pi
[2:04] <Wafficus> its relatd
[2:04] <Wafficus> *related
[2:04] <Khaytsus> It is not related to a pi in any way, shape, or form.
[2:04] <friendofafriend> Tangentially, to be fair.
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[2:06] <Wafficus> still no dice
[2:06] <Wafficus> dang
[2:07] <friendofafriend> You could paste "sudo apt-get install miniupnpc ; upnpc -r 25565 TCP" into your terminal.
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[2:09] <Wafficus> then what do I run
[2:09] <Wafficus> the only reason I ask cause one look at the page and I was a little intimidated :/
[2:11] <friendofafriend> Then your port is forwarded. Like magic.
[2:13] <Wafficus> it tries to install it but is 0% working
[2:13] <Wafficus> is this an active project?
[2:14] <friendofafriend> Uh, yes.
[2:14] <Wafficus> it keeps getting stuck on the install
[2:14] <Wafficus> I have zero clue why
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[2:19] * friendofafriend shrugs.
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[3:18] <MikeRL> Does anyone remember how to add znc to crontab? I had to nuke my install because RetroPie went up.
[3:19] <MikeRL> I tried following instructions on the wiki and they didn't work...
[3:20] <MikeRL> I should've written down the commands but didn't for some reason.
[3:20] <MikeRL> I did however write down the local config.
[3:21] <MikeRL> And got the server running.
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[4:41] <nmeal> hi there, i have set up a mail server, but am having trouble with the ports. in NAT virtual server settings it doesn't have port 143 open, but when i run nmap -PS it shows it as open. and the reverse for port 465. https://i.imgur.com/iV9tCrb.png
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[8:18] <danst> hello
[8:18] <danst> I've tried apt-getting linux-image-3.10-3-rpi on stretch on rpi 3 b+
[8:18] <danst> and it doesn't work like that
[8:18] <danst> how do I know why?
[8:18] <danst> I need old kernel to run usbip
[8:19] <danst> and 2013 wheezy doesn't boot
[8:19] <friendofafriend> Gosh, that's an awful old kernel.
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[8:34] <monkian> danst you try wget a version from downloads.raspberrypi.org?
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[9:11] <danst> lmao I don't need old kernel
[9:11] <danst> it's a software error
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[9:19] <monkian> lmao good luck
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[13:34] <ShorTie> Error: Driver 'rtl8192cu' is already registered, aborting...
[13:35] * shiftplusone pops
[13:35] <ShorTie> you know anything about this ?? https://pastebin.com/8uSgy8mg
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[13:37] <shiftplusone> something is trying to load the driver although it's already loaded? modues-load.d or something?
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[13:38] <shiftplusone> or a udev rule? seems to be happening multiple times
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[13:38] <ShorTie> not sure
[13:39] <ShorTie> i can get multiple brcmfmac rules at times is why i'm asking
[13:40] <ShorTie> or listing in the rules file for eudev that is
[13:40] <shiftplusone> are any of the rules calling modprobe or anything like that?
[13:40] <shiftplusone> https://elixir.bootlin.com/linux/latest/source/drivers/base/driver.c#L164
[13:42] <ShorTie> well they all call modprobe, as everything is built as modules
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[13:43] <ShorTie> yes, brcmfmac too...
[13:43] <shiftplusone> the kernel will automatically detect that you have a driver matching a device and load it, there's no need to load it manually.
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[13:44] <ShorTie> i'm only loading vfat and ext4 as modules, the rest kernel/eudev handle
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[13:52] <CubicEarth> On the Pi Zero, the GPIO pins are really just a row of holes... Does anyone know of a solderless clamp / probe of some sort that can hook into such holes for development purposes?
[13:52] <ShorTie> also, the exact same LFS install on x86_64, i don't get the error
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[13:54] <rpjsf> CubicEarth: https://www.amazon.com/dp/B074HVBTZ4/ref=sspa_dk_detail_0?psc=1&pd_rd_i=B074HVBTZ4&pd_rd_w=mj2rY&pf_rd_p=10ebaf99-73de-4f5d-a994-e7f5fc52f86f&pd_rd_wg=ajZ9l&pf_rd_r=VSQ62T1VGB1BS0PMVTCY&pd_rd_r=506183a5-337c-11e9-9bfd-ad0a97d0ca89
[13:55] <rpjsf> CubicEarth: they're left as bare holes to allow you to either solder something like I just linked (normally referred to as "headers") which you can then hook jumpers to like these: https://www.amazon.com/GenBasic-Solderless-Dupont-Compatible-Breadboard-Prototyping/dp/B077NH83CJ/ref=asc_df_B077NH83CJ/?tag=hyprod-20&linkCode=df0&hvadid=309750549985&hvpos=1o3&hvnetw=g&hvrand=6805860374932044206&hvpone=&hvptwo=&hvqmt=&hvdev=c&hvdv
[13:55] <rpjsf> cmdl=&hvlocint=&hvlocphy=9032339&hvtargid=pla-567322001486&psc=1
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[13:56] <BurtyB> CubicEarth, there are hammer headers (pimoroni iirc)
[13:57] <CubicEarth> rpjsf: thanks. I do know about the header pins... I was more wondering about a spring loaded "hook" of sorts
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[13:57] <ShorTie> why not just a bread board and dupot wires ??
[13:57] <ShorTie> purf board, if you need both rows
[13:57] <rpjsf> CubicEarth: yup I'm pretty sure those are out there too, definitely doable. the "hole" idea of leaving the holes is to give you flexibility :)
[13:58] <ShorTie> nop, cut cost
[13:58] <ShorTie> what cha want for 5 bucks ??
[13:58] <BurtyB> CubicEarth, for HAT testing/programming I use https://www.kickstarter.com/projects/1250664710/pcb-quick-connect-clip-40-pin-raspberry-pi-compati not sure if they're selling them now tho
[13:59] <CubicEarth> What about these? - https://www.amazon.com/Elenco-TL-21-Minigrabber-Test-Lead/dp/B0002JJU50?ref_=fsclp_pl_dp_2
[14:00] <ShorTie> Cool, big cloths pin with a bunch of pins
[14:00] <rpjsf> CubicEarth: yeah those work well for instrumenting test points via an oscilloscope or multimeter, but they're not great for even semi-permanent solutions as any movement of the overall rig tends to cause them to fall off
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[14:00] <CubicEarth> BurtyB: That's the idea, but perhaps a bit overkill :)
[14:00] <BurtyB> depends what you want it for ;)
[14:01] <CubicEarth> rpjsf: I would solder when its time.
[14:01] <rpjsf> CubicEarth: if what BurtyB posted is a bit overkill, what about something like this? https://www.adafruit.com/product/2028
[14:01] <rpjsf> CubicEarth: gotcha! then yeah if this is just for the prototyping phase, something like that plus a breadboard to hook up your external components is really all you'd need
[14:02] <ShorTie> just some dupot wires and a piece of foam would work for testing
[14:03] <CubicEarth> ShorTie: I have those wires, but I'm not sure how they make a good connection into the "holes"... usually they fit into a receptacle with spring
[14:04] <rpjsf> CubicEarth: yeah that's what you need those headers for
[14:04] <CubicEarth> rpjsf: I'll order me some of those test clips then... I really should have some anyway
[14:04] <rpjsf> you have to solder them in
[14:04] <rpjsf> CubicEarth: like in this image: https://cdn-shop.adafruit.com/970x728/3708-00.jpg
[14:05] <ShorTie> true, that is where the angle dangle of how you push them in comes into play
[14:05] <Khaytsus> ( ͡° ͜ʖ ͡°)
[14:06] <ShorTie> don't go just straight down .. :/~
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[14:07] <Khaytsus> Yeah you wanna finger out waht's going on first
[14:07] <ShorTie> or add a filler, like a tooth pick
[14:07] <rpjsf> please do not add toothpicks into those pin holes :)
[14:07] <ShorTie> why not ??
[14:08] <ShorTie> rather a straight pin ??
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[14:10] <ShorTie> those headers really don't need soldered in if you have some
[14:11] <ShorTie> just bend the pins to hold the board, but soldering nicer
[14:11] <CubicEarth> Thanks for the all the suggestions
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[14:12] <rpjsf> CubicEarth: you're welcome, best of luck!
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[14:15] <Khaytsus> I should eventually order a little bulk pack of headers from somewhere.. seems like every time I get a pi I eventaully want a header, and I almost always get pi zw's anymore
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[14:18] <rpjsf> Khaytsus: yup I did that awhile back, ordered a huge pack of multicolored single-row headers. it has come in extremely handy, especially as I've started ordering other modules online (ESP8266s mainly)
[14:19] <Khaytsus> rpjsf: heh I guess the colored ones in some bulk are as cheap as the individual black ones eh?
[14:19] <Khaytsus> I have one kit here that has a nice colored header that's numbered... heh...
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[14:20] <rpjsf> Khaytsus: oh yeah they were as cheap as can be! the quality is definitely lacking compared to the black ones you get from Adafruit as part of kits though, so I must've found the cheapest reseller there is :)
[14:20] <ShorTie> got a old 40 pin hard drive cable ??
[14:20] <Khaytsus> Well... I'd say most times you're not replugging the things frequently, as long as they're straight and have a reasonable coating
[14:20] <ShorTie> they give you wires
[14:21] <rpjsf> ShorTie: I wish! who knew that, years after throwing so many of those away, I'd want them again :)
[14:21] <Khaytsus> ShorTie: I still have some SCSI 1 cables around for god knows why
[14:21] <Khaytsus> At least I used to..
[14:21] <rpjsf> Khaytsus: yup very true, so for what they are I'm more than happy with them
[14:21] <ShorTie> NOT 80 conductor wired 1's, MUST BE the old 40
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[14:21] <Khaytsus> Hmm, what were 40... MFM?
[14:22] <ShorTie> or ploppy if you don't need all 40
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[14:22] <ShorTie> s/ploppy/floppy/
[14:23] <ShorTie> the 80's got things shorted out the black part, not good for pi
[14:24] <Khaytsus> INteresting, I didn't know that. ground lines tied together?
[14:24] <ShorTie> sumfin, never l00ked it up
[14:25] <Khaytsus> I had SCSI 1 on my Amiga in the day... I know you had terminator packs at the end of the connectors, but didn't realize the connectors themselves were not just straight pin through
[14:25] <ShorTie> you can take them apart, pull the bar and put back together
[14:25] <ShorTie> but that's alot of work, lol.
[14:25] <Khaytsus> Sure, I used to do that all the time.. always made my own cables
[14:26] <Khaytsus> I had a little alignment tool and jyou just pressed downthen capped it, easy
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[14:26] <Khaytsus> Well... not sure I did it for scsi.. can't reacll. I did it for PATA.
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[14:27] <ShorTie> when they made the switch from jumpers to the cable is most likely when it happened
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[14:28] <ShorTie> old ide drives you had to set a jumper on them to select the drive it twas
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[14:28] <Khaytsus> That was on the drive itself iirc
[14:29] <ShorTie> Yuppers ... :)
[14:29] <Khaytsus> I still had a IDE drive in my previous server box... maybe 3 years ago.. heh
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[16:37] <jakeSays> so i'm using a pi to simulate an embedded device for development. i have a 4" hdmi screen on it. i want to write directly to the frame buffer - how do i switch the screen to "graphics mode"? all i have is the terminal.
[16:37] <Plasmoduck> ctrl+alt+F7
[16:38] <Khaytsus> I have no idea what he's wanting but clearly neither do you Plasmoduck
[16:39] <Plasmoduck> I know ctrl+alt+F7 takes you from the terminal to the XServer (graphics mode)/
[16:39] <jakeSays> Plasmoduck: it didn't work
[16:39] <jakeSays> but i'm not running x
[16:39] <Plasmoduck> jakeSays: what graphics mode are you talking about then?
[16:40] <Plasmoduck> X is graphics mode
[16:40] <rpjsf> jakeSays: have you tried running `sudo raspi-config` and enabling X graphics from there?
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[16:41] <Khaytsus> jakeSays: what graphics are you expecting anyway.... You have something which supports framebuffer?
[16:41] <jakeSays> actually, this should just work. it should just overwrite the console text
[16:41] <Khaytsus> If so, it should just work
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[16:41] <jakeSays> right
[16:41] <jakeSays> ok cool.
[16:41] <jakeSays> not enough caffeine.
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[16:57] <DanielTheFox> if only friendofafriend was still here
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[17:57] <Wafficus> can anyone help me please understand why ping won't work on my pi?
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[17:57] <Wafficus> I tried to assign a static ip yesterday with the dhcp config file if that helps
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[18:01] <larsks> Wafficus: are you able to connect to your pi at all (e.g., do you mean "ping doesn't work but everything else does" or do you mean "I am unable to connect to my pi")?
[18:01] <Wafficus> well
[18:01] <Wafficus> I'm ssh'd into the Pi right
[18:02] <Wafficus> so I'm attempting to "ping www.google.com" just to see if things are working
[18:02] <Wafficus> no response
[18:02] <Wafficus> the reason I note this is that I tried to sudo apt install miniupnpc in order to help myself get this done quicker
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[18:02] <Wafficus> and even sudo apt install does nothing
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[18:03] <larsks> So, when you try to ping www.google.com, is name lookup working correctly?
[18:03] <Khaytsus> Oh joy, it's ##networking in here again today
[18:04] <Wafficus> its weird, so probably I screwed up the networking
[18:04] <Wafficus> its not working at all
[18:04] <Wafficus> Khaytsus: well, would #networking be able to help me out too?
[18:04] <Wafficus> just wondering cause this IS pi related thanks
[18:04] <Wafficus> larsks: no, its not doing anything, which leads me to believe I probably didn't follow the static ip on the raspberry pi guide right
[18:05] <larsks> Well, maybe. How were you able to ssh into it?
[18:05] <Jusii> try ping 8.8.8.8 so you can rule out dns problem
[18:06] <Khaytsus> ..probably not
[18:06] <Khaytsus> But it's still the right channel
[18:06] <Jusii> then if you can ssh into pi, but outbound traffick isn't working, most likely gw/subnet
[18:06] <Wafficus> I just ssh into it using a bash alias that pretty much just ssh's into it: ssh pi@(pi's ip address"
[18:06] <larsks> Wafficus: is that the static address you assigned?
[18:06] <Khaytsus> Or he just hasn't set up a dns server giht
[18:06] <larsks> Because if it is, that obviously worked correctly.
[18:07] <larsks> Your problem could be a routing issue, or it could be a dns issue. We can help you diagnose both.
[18:07] <Wafficus> yes that ssh ip is the same as the static ip
[18:07] <larsks> Okay. So, what is the output of running 'ip route' on your pi?
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[18:07] <Wafficus> I'll try that right now
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[18:07] <larsks> (use a pastebin, don't post in channel)
[18:08] <Wafficus> *i'm running tmux so I have the pi ssh in the bottom panel of this session
[18:10] <Wafficus> I can't use a pastebin from the pi because of hte network issues, I tried using cat iproute.txt | nc termbin.com 9999
[18:10] <Wafficus> I'll use it via browser in a sec to get you that info instead
[18:11] <Wafficus> https://pastebin.com/6mVd526Y
[18:11] <larsks> Okay, that looks fine. Mostly I was curious if you had a default route configured. Are you able to ping the gateway (192.168.0.1)?
[18:11] <larsks> And if the answer to that is "yes", are you able to follow Jusii's suggestion and ping 8.8.8.8?
[18:12] <Wafficus> yes I can ping that
[18:13] <Wafficus> I was able to ping the gateway, and the 8.8.8.8
[18:13] <larsks> Great. What does /etc/resolv.conf look like on your pi?
[18:13] <larsks> (we've established that you have outbound network connectivity, so it's *probably* a dns issue)
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[18:14] <Wafficus> https://pastebin.com/ZhAK8ieC
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[18:15] <larsks> That also seems reasonable, assuming that your gateway provides dns service, which is pretty typical. When you try to 'ping www.google.com', what exactly is the output?
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[18:17] <Wafficus> it just waits without a response
[18:17] <Wafficus> *waiting for the error message
[18:18] <larsks> It would really help if you could paste the exact output, because I am trying to figure out of dns lookups are working. It sounds like the answer is probably "yes", but your answer there doesn't provide sufficient information.
[18:19] <Wafficus> ping: www.google.com: Temporary failure in name resolution
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[18:20] <larsks> Okay. That's more informative.
[18:20] <Wafficus> yeah I know, I was just waiting
[18:20] <Wafficus> bear wit hme
[18:20] <Wafficus> when I do *asterisks, its what I'm currently doing
[18:20] <larsks> Is 192.168.0.1 the same nameserver used by other devices on your network (e.g., whatever you're using to connect to the pi)?
[18:20] <Wafficus> I think so, i'm not quite sure
[18:21] <Wafficus> I think that's my router's ip
[18:21] <Wafficus> like when you want to login to change settings
[18:21] <larsks> Yes, it is.
[18:22] <larsks> Actually, here's an interest test we can do: replace /etc/resolv.conf with 'nameserver 8.8.8.8', and then retry your ping.
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[18:23] <Wafficus> ping works now
[18:23] <Wafficus> with that change
[18:23] <larsks> Interesting. That means for some reason, your pi wasn't get dns replies from your router.
[18:24] <larsks> *getting
[18:24] <Wafficus> so on the router's port forwarding page
[18:24] <Wafficus> I have the ip of the pi
[18:24] <Wafficus> and the port for minecraft aka 25565
[18:24] <DanielTheFox> IP Pi
[18:24] <larsks> Right, that should be fine.
[18:24] <Wafficus> ok gotcha
[18:24] <Khaytsus> Or he's manually set the ip staticially and didn't use dhcp
[18:25] <larsks> That shouldn't prevent dns, though.
[18:25] <Khaytsus> And has been wasting everyones time with the solution given to him yesterday
[18:25] <Wafficus> Khaytsus: yes that's what I did, I have a static ip of the raspberry pi currently
[18:25] <Khaytsus> larsks: Sure it would; he didn't set the dns right
[18:25] <DanielTheFox> Wafficus, set with ifupdown?
[18:25] <Khaytsus> He just made up some random thing instead of using dhcp
[18:25] <larsks> Khaytsus: but we just checked, and it looked okay.
[18:25] <DanielTheFox> or how did you put that?
[18:25] <Khaytsus> larsks: except it's not. I bet if he looked his dns server is something else, like on any of his computers, phone, etc
[18:25] <Wafficus> Khaytsus: well I'm having trouble following the multiple guides on how to set up a static ip in the first place
[18:25] <DanielTheFox> Khaytsus, since when it's a crime to use static IP? :)
[18:26] <Khaytsus> You don't need a static IP. Your IP still remain static once it's set as long as it remains online.
[18:26] <larsks> Wafficus: the device you're using to connect to your pi, is it a linux/mac/windows system?
[18:26] <Khaytsus> DanielTheFox: When you're too clueless to actually set it up
[18:26] <Wafficus> I'm currently using a Lubuntu laptop
[18:26] <larsks> Wafficus: what is /etc/resolv.conf on your laptop?
[18:26] <DanielTheFox> Khaytsus, oh, then yes :P
[18:26] <Wafficus> Khaytsus: hey man, don't be mean, I'm just a newbie looking for some help
[18:26] <Wafficus> if not, then I'll keep trying on my own
[18:26] <DanielTheFox> my machines here are mostly static IP, but well crafted so that they're working with no flaw
[18:26] <larsks> Wafficus: ignore the noise; I'm happy to help out.
[18:27] <Wafficus> hey pm me then, can't stand that kind of negative stuff tbh. I can get it on #linux but not here
[18:30] <hodapp> um, yeah, it's a bit unnecessary here.
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[18:33] <sinned6915> is there a tool to display the status of all the gpio pins ?
[18:33] <larsks> sinned6915: "gpio readall" if you've installed wiringpi.
[18:33] <DanielTheFox> gpio readall
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[18:33] <DanielTheFox> (need to invoke it each time you want to read it, but otherwise, fine)
[18:34] <sinned6915> thank you
[18:36] <sinned6915> ok, maybe i am not doing this right... i need some coaching
[18:36] <sinned6915> i am using octoprint with PSU control.
[18:37] <sinned6915> it is set to control the PSO off/on with GPIO pin 23
[18:37] <sinned6915> sorry scratch that
[18:37] <sinned6915> GPIO pin 12
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[18:38] <gordonDrogon> gpio -g mode 12 out ; gpio -g write 12 1
[18:38] <gordonDrogon> but make sure you get the right pin numbers. wiringPi & the gpio commands supports 3 different formats.
[18:38] <sinned6915> with the printer off, i issue gpio read 12 and get a 0 returned
[18:39] <sinned6915> with the printer on, gpio read also returns a 0
[18:39] <gordonDrogon> that's a wiringPi pin number.
[18:39] <gordonDrogon> try gpio -g read 12
[18:39] <gordonDrogon> the -g says use native bcm_gpio pin numbers.
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[18:42] <gordonDrogon> does that help?
[18:42] <sinned6915> honestly, no. i am not trying to be difficult
[18:42] <sinned6915> when i do gpio readall, i get a table
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[18:43] <gordonDrogon> indeed.
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[18:43] <gordonDrogon> that's what it does.
[18:43] <sinned6915> the only change i see when i turn the pso off/on is Physical pin 12 , V changes from 1 to 0
[18:44] <gordonDrogon> right, so use: gpio -1 read 1
[18:44] <gordonDrogon> right, so use: gpio -1 read 12
[18:44] <gordonDrogon> the -1 flag says to use physical pins.
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[18:44] <sinned6915> is there a diff type option for comparing states?
[18:44] <gordonDrogon> So: Physical pin 12 is bcm_gpio pin 18 is wiringPi pin 2.
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[18:45] <gordonDrogon> no - because wiringPi is designed to be used by experienced programmers. however if you can write a few lines of bash script, you can read the output of the gpio command.
[18:45] <sinned6915> ok, my end goal here is to try and figure out the pin state with the psu on, so i can write a script to kill power to the printer in case of emergency
[18:46] <sinned6915> i had this happen to me - https://i.imgur.com/t47Mpoj.png
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[18:46] <sinned6915> marlin didnt catch it
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[18:46] <sinned6915> i am hoping that octoprint temp failsafe will catch it, but it needs a script to run
[18:46] <gordonDrogon> I know nothing about octoprint/marlin, but I never NEVER leave my lasercutter unattended.
[18:47] <sinned6915> i was standing next toit when it happened
[18:47] <gordonDrogon> good job then :)
[18:47] <sinned6915> those spikes are me cutting power trying to stop it
[18:47] <sinned6915> i am totally stymied and belittled by how simple this sould be and how hard it is
[18:48] <sinned6915> i am using this atx breakout hat - https://github.com/Kunsi/rpi-atx-lcd-breakout
[18:48] <sinned6915> "Switching the PSU on and off using GPIO pin 12"
[18:49] <sinned6915> so i should be seeing a change comparing the output of gpio -1 read 12 right?
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[18:49] <gordonDrogon> it depends on how it's been designed.
[18:49] <gordonDrogon> however for an ATX PSU, you need to pull the power pin to 0v to turn it on.
[18:50] <gordonDrogon> so try: gpio -1 mode 12 out ; gpio -1 write 12 1
[18:50] <gordonDrogon> and see if that turns it off or on.
[18:50] <sinned6915> ok, toggling the power shows change in gpio -1 read 12
[18:50] <gordonDrogon> then try: gpio -1 write 12 0
[18:50] <sinned6915> the 0 works
[18:51] <gordonDrogon> to turn it off?
[18:51] <sinned6915> 0 turns it on. 1 turns it off
[18:51] <gordonDrogon> ah, right.
[18:51] <gordonDrogon> that's what I expected. the ATX PSU connector needs it pulled to 0v to turn it on.
[18:51] <sinned6915> ok, so my script is simplly that line then?
[18:51] <sinned6915> gpio -1 mode 12 out ; gpio -1 write 12 0
[18:51] <gordonDrogon> you need 2 commands - one is the mode out, the other is the write 0
[18:51] <gordonDrogon> yup.
[18:51] <sinned6915> ok,
[18:52] <gordonDrogon> you jsut need to work out how to run that script at 'emergency' time.
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[18:52] <sinned6915> i am hopign that this will work - https://github.com/google/OctoPrint-TemperatureFailsafe
[18:53] <gordonDrogon> so make sure you put that in an executable script
[18:53] <sinned6915> my only other unknown is how to execute and permissions
[18:53] <gordonDrogon> line 1: #!/bin/bash
[18:53] <gordonDrogon> line 2: that command
[18:53] <sinned6915> chmod a+x
[18:53] <gordonDrogon> then chmod +x scriptname
[18:53] <sinned6915> does the user matter?
[18:54] <gordonDrogon> no
[18:54] <gordonDrogon> the gpio command runs as root.
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[18:57] <sinned6915> ok. that works
[18:58] <sinned6915> now to come up with a way to 'test' it that is non destructive!
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[18:58] <sinned6915> that all happened when i mistakenly put in a 12V heater on 24V . it fried the mosfet. mosfet would not shut off
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[18:59] <sinned6915> gordonDrogon: THANK YOU!
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[19:06] <gordonDrogon> well hopefully it's more safe now...
[19:06] <gordonDrogon> can you test without putting any filament in and doing a print?
[19:06] <gordonDrogon> then change the temperature threshhold to something very low...
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[19:12] <akk> Where's the right place to file bugs on raspbian.raspberrypi.org/raspbian packages? I tried filing a bug at github.com/RPi-Distro/repo and was told that's only for archive.raspberrypi.org packages.
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[19:13] <shiftplusone> akk: that's the sdr package?
[19:14] <akk> shiftplusone: gqrx-sdr
[19:14] <shiftplusone> I think you're just out of luck. The packages comes from Debian and they're not going to pull the latest version into stable.
[19:14] <akk> The one in the repo dumps core on startup, but gqrx.dk has a package that works.
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[19:15] <shiftplusone> They provide prebuilt binaries, which isn't how debian packages work. It would need to be built from source and everything on the site says it's experimental, so again... debian aren't going to take an experimental package and say it's good to go in stable.
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[19:16] <akk> Certainly debian isn't, but given that this crashes specifically on pi, why is it in the raspbian repos at all?
[19:16] <akk> If they aren't willing to use the source from gqrx.dk it would save people time if they'd just remove the package.
[19:16] <shiftplusone> Because Raspbian is a straight rebuild of Debian for armv6. Whether a package works or not is another question, as long as it builds.
[19:17] <shiftplusone> But like I said on the issue, if you, or somebody else, wants to do the work, I'm happy to add it to the archive.raspberrypi.org repo. It just needs to be a proper debian source package.
[19:18] <shiftplusone> Or, you could try your luck here https://bugs.launchpad.net/raspbian
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[19:19] <akk> Okay, maybe I'll look into figuring out the difference between the current broken source and the working source. Thanks.
[19:19] <akk> What's the difference between https://bugs.launchpad.net/raspbian and github.com/RPi-Distro/repo?
[19:20] <akk> Archive is meant to be a straight copy of debian, and the one on launchpad can have changes?
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[19:22] <shiftplusone> archive.raspberrypi.org is the Raspberry Pi Foundation repo. It's things like drivers, UI mods and other tweaks. archive.raspbian.org (where raspbian.raspberrypi.org points) is the base repo for Raspbian itself.
[19:23] <shiftplusone> raspberrypi.org is managed by Raspberry Pi and issues are tracked on the github repo. raspbian.org is not managed by Raspberry Pi, it's a community project- their bug tracker is on launchpad.
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[19:28] <akk> I see. And then the raspbian project, tracked on launchpad, can update packages in the raspbian.raspberrypi.org repos?
[19:30] <akk> (but not the archive.raspberrypi repos because that's from the foundation)
[19:30] <shiftplusone> yes raspbian.raspberrypi.org points to archive.raspbian.org. They have direct control over it.
[19:30] <shiftplusone> yeah, you've got it. It's a bit confusing to figure out who's responsible for what.
[19:30] <akk> Great, thanks, I understand much better now. I was always confused about that.
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[19:32] <shiftplusone> np
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[20:07] <tommy``> anyone knows about that? https://www.instagram.com/p/BuBjWYXlgTK/
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[20:12] <gordonDrogon> I saw it earlier on some other site. just a Pi inside a fanct 3D printed box. nothing special..
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[20:17] <Khaytsus> Do you get a teeny stylus to type?
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[20:27] <gordonDrogon> https://www.raspberrypi.org/blog/build-commodore-pet-model-8032/
[20:28] <gordonDrogon> https://commodorepetmini.com/
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[20:31] <tommy``> how many cool stuff like this exists gordonDrogon?
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[20:31] <tommy``> this is very detailed and stylish object
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[20:34] <gordonDrogon> very many cool stuff. your imagination is the limit.
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[20:43] <Wafficus> hi there, back again with a raspberry pi issue for minecraft port forwarding, can anyone help me figure out what this error is from my brother trying to login to my raspberry pi minecraft server: Failed to connect to the server io.netty.channel.AbstractChannel$AnnotatedConnectException: Connection timed out: no further information
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[20:43] <friendofafriend> Wafficus: Sounds like it failed to connect.
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[20:45] <friendofafriend> And it looks like your port 25565 still isn't open.
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[20:46] <Wafficus> hmm gotcha
[20:46] <friendofafriend> Try upnpc?
[20:46] <Wafficus> I did however get help to fix that dhcpc.config file this morning
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[20:46] <Wafficus> I didn't try it yet
[20:46] <Wafficus> what do I need to do again with that tool?
[20:47] <Wafficus> just run it?
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[20:47] <Wafficus> I got the Pi to be able to ping again, so I should be able to sudo apt install it this time
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[20:47] <friendofafriend> 20:07 < friendofafriend> You could paste "sudo apt-get install miniupnpc ; upnpc -r 25565 TCP" into your terminal.
[20:48] <tommy``> heya friendofafriend ;)
[20:48] <friendofafriend> Howdy, tommy``! How goes the Retropie?
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[20:49] <Beroas> Hi, i'm using raspbian and i would like to access the web with an umts module. Ifconfig output is wlan0 and usb0. usb0 is my umts module. I want to have wlan0 up to connect to my local network by ssh and access the web with usb0. Is there a way to make this happen?
[20:49] <Wafficus> so it displayed a bunch of info
[20:49] <Wafficus> should I give you a pastebin of what it did?
[20:49] <friendofafriend> Wafficus: Sure.
[20:50] <Wafficus> https://pastebin.com/PbTFWh51
[20:50] <friendofafriend> Wafficus: And it's done.
[20:51] <Wafficus> so that should be good at that point?
[20:51] <Wafficus> Can I show you my dchpcp.conf file just to be sure?
[20:51] <friendofafriend> Yep, port 25565 is being forwarded from your external IP to your Pi.
[20:52] <tommy``> friendofafriend now my retropie is off and I have not played long with my bartop because I would like to do something cool but I do not know how to make it more nerd
[20:52] <friendofafriend> Beroas: Is the usb0 device your default route?
[20:52] <DanielTheFox> friendofafriend, http://www.danielthefox.com/warm-silicon/005.htm
[20:52] <DanielTheFox> (unrelated)
[20:53] <friendofafriend> DanielTheFox: Oh lol. :3
[20:53] <Wafficus> make the bartop into a V100 terminal
[20:53] <Wafficus> VT100 *
[20:53] <Wafficus> that sounds nerd and cool to me imo
[20:54] <DanielTheFox> and this... http://www.danielthefox.com/warm-silicon/007.htm
[20:54] <gordonDrogon> DanielTheFox, this is worth a watch: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7TXEZ4tP06c
[20:55] <friendofafriend> Wafficus: Sure, you can show your dhcpcd.conf file, if you want.
[20:56] <Beroas> friendofafriend well i don't know. How can i check which interface is default for the connection to the web?
[20:56] <friendofafriend> Beroas: With the "route" command.
[20:57] <tommy``> Wafficus, yes but my bartop is much bigger than VT100
[20:57] <tommy``> :D
[20:57] <Beroas> can i post output here?
[20:57] <tommy``> paste it on some paste
[20:58] <friendofafriend> I like http://paste.debian.net
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[20:58] <Wafficus> https://termbin.com/ctpg
[20:58] <Beroas> https://paste.debian.net/plain/1068784
[20:59] <Beroas> it seems like both interfaces are default right?
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[21:00] <DanielTheFox> ooooOoOo, easy as pie
[21:00] <Wafficus> friendofafriend: pasted the conf file if you need it
[21:00] <Wafficus> he's still getting the same error btw
[21:01] <Wafficus> *my brother
[21:01] <friendofafriend> Wafficus: Run netstat on your Pi, find out if 25565 is listening.
[21:02] <friendofafriend> Beroas: It looks like the default route through usb0 already has the higher priority. Have you browsed to a site that shows you your IP?
[21:03] <friendofafriend> You can also Google for "What is my IP".
[21:03] <Wafficus> netstat results: https://termbin.com/n3mg
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[21:03] <Wafficus> not sure how to decipher some of this :/
[21:04] <friendofafriend> Wafficus: Drat, sorry. You'd need a "netstat -na".
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[21:04] * Khaytsus grumbles
[21:04] <friendofafriend> We won't get listening ports, otherwise.
[21:04] <friendofafriend> Khaytsus: Imma get your belly.
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[21:05] <Wafficus> https://termbin.com/p0jq
[21:05] * Armand flicks Khaytsus' ear!
[21:05] <Wafficus> ^ latest pastebin with netstat -na
[21:05] * DanielTheFox updates his hand drawing API, adding the calls CopyVectorFromMemory and RotateVectorInMemory
[21:05] <friendofafriend> Wafficus: You have no service listening on port 25565.
[21:06] <Khaytsus> I'm suer there are minecraft irc channels.......
[21:06] <friendofafriend> Wafficus: Where is your server running?
[21:06] * DanielTheFox limits vector size to 8 steps or 256 bytes
[21:06] <Wafficus> Khaytsus: no one has any idea on how to help me with this on the #minecraft one though
[21:06] <Khaytsus> Why would we
[21:06] <Armand> Khaytsus: EEEEWWWW
[21:06] <Khaytsus> Has nothing to do with a pi
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[21:06] <Wafficus> Khaytsus: Its a frigging PI with port forwarding
[21:06] <Wafficus> the whole thing is Pi related
[21:06] <Khaytsus> Has nothing to do with a pi
[21:06] <Khaytsus> Has nothing to do with a pi
[21:06] <Wafficus> whatever troll
[21:06] <Wafficus> anyway
[21:06] <Armand> Wafficus: Ok, troll.
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[21:07] <friendofafriend> Khaytsus is not a troll, unless he's playing a *really* long game.
[21:07] <Khaytsus> Days in here on how to set up a minecraft server.. meh
[21:07] <Wafficus> friendofafriend: the server is running on the pi itself
[21:07] <DanielTheFox> it's more about networking
[21:07] <friendofafriend> Wafficus: It's not listening on any port.
[21:07] <DanielTheFox> :)
[21:07] <Khaytsus> friendofafriend: I am not, I just _loathe_ when people are intentionally in the wrong channel and know it
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[21:08] <friendofafriend> Wafficus: You need to check that your server is actually running, maybe using something like "ps xau".
[21:09] <friendofafriend> Khaytsus: You'd think there'd just be some distro that you could write to a card, and Minecraft server comes out.
[21:09] <Wafficus> what's weird is that I'm able to connect locally via my desktop comp just fine
[21:09] <Armand> Yup.. networking.
[21:09] <Khaytsus> Yep, earlier we taught him do not assign random values to his network device
[21:09] <Khaytsus> Now we're teaching him now to run a minecraft server
[21:09] <Khaytsus> #networking or #linux
[21:10] <Armand> #notapithing
[21:10] <Khaytsus> Anywho
[21:11] * Armand bearhugs Khaytsus!
[21:14] <Beroas> friendofafriend yes i check @ whatismyip and after checking my ip i used sudo /sbin/ifconfig usb0 down and checked again... ip has not changed
[21:15] <Wafficus> it is Pi related
[21:15] <DanielTheFox> but not Pi specific
[21:15] <Wafficus> if I was running this server on an old laptop, yes I'd agree with you
[21:16] <Wafficus> but this minecraft variant IS pi specific
[21:16] <Wafficus> especially spigot
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[21:16] <Armand> Software != device
[21:17] <friendofafriend> Beroas: Something like "sudo route del default gw dev wlan0".
[21:17] <friendofafriend> Then the default gateway through wlan0 is removed. You'll still be able to access your WLAN, and you'll have no other route but through usb0.
[21:19] <friendofafriend> (And that route will return if your restart the Pi.)
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[21:23] <ali1234> doesn't minecraft pi literally come bundled with raspbian?
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[21:24] <DanielTheFox> almost, but nope
[21:26] <ali1234> ah, it's not installed by default
[21:27] <ali1234> still is an officially supported foundation offering though, so there is no question that it is on topic
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[21:28] <Armand> No, it isn't.
[21:29] <ali1234> why?
[21:29] <ali1234> and who are you to decide that?
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[21:30] <Armand> I am the Alpha and the Omega.
[21:32] <friendofafriend> I... thought it was "Zulu".
[21:33] <Armand> that too
[21:34] <Armand> I am literally the entire alphabet.
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[21:36] <friendofafriend> But what about that eñe thing they have in Spanish? And umlauts? Do you support Unicode?
[21:37] <Armand> No.
[21:37] <friendofafriend> That's cool. I never liked Unicode anyhow.
[21:38] <Armand> lulz
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[21:41] * stiv doesn't understand why people just don't speak English like everyone else.
[21:41] <Armand> uwotm8 ?
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[21:45] <hodapp> u wot m8*
[21:45] <hodapp> ugh kids these days write so sloppily
[21:46] * DanielTheFox doesn't :)
[21:47] <DanielTheFox> or at least I don't use such cryptic keypress combinations :)
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[21:47] <Armand> hodapp: u wanna figt? outside, bruv.. 1v1 me, irl!
[21:47] <Armand> :P
[21:48] * DanielTheFox hopefully translated it correctly inside his head
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[21:49] <Armand> I have no idea.. I really can't maintain that level of stupid.
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[21:50] <friendofafriend> "Would you like a hug? Let's go outside, so others won't see. Just us two. No Internet."
[21:50] <hodapp> I'd not risk the dust on my worst pair of pantaloons to play at fisticuffs with this poltroon coward.
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[21:51] <Armand> Hahahaa
[21:51] <DanielTheFox> hahaha
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[23:34] <MikeRL> I got thinking. It must take a ton of work to get Raspbian optimized for such a basic hardware set.
[23:34] <MikeRL> I wonder how many packages have to be optimized, and how long it takes.
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[23:45] <gordonDrogon> for the most part they were all just compiled as per the usual Debian methods for a different processor.
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