#raspberrypi IRC Log

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IRC Log for 2019-02-19

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[0:07] <MikeRL> Hmm. How come half the time I boot up Raspbian, BT and Wifi dpn't work? I'm on the 3B+.
[0:08] <MikeRL> *don't
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[0:21] <friendofafriend> MikeRL: Strange problem, check dmesg. Maybe put it on a paste site.
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[0:23] <MikeRL> friendofafriend, thanks. I will do so. I'll Google the location of dmesg on Raspbian.
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[0:24] <MikeRL> friendofafriend, it actually happens quite a lot to me, so I ought to be able to reproduce it easily.
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[0:25] <friendofafriend> MikeRL: Just type "sudo dmesg".
[0:25] <MikeRL> friendofafriend, Thanks. It's that simple, huh? Had no clue.
[0:26] <MikeRL> I'll check it out asap.
[0:27] <friendofafriend> You're real welcome. Linux tends to be more simple than it seems.
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[0:32] <MikeRL> https://del.dog/woqulekuxa.coffeescript
[0:32] <MikeRL> There's the log for the adapters not loading. I wonder why they are not loading. Note that I that I boot to RetroPie.
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[0:36] <friendofafriend> Seems to be loading wireless fine, by lines 260, 264, 265.
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[0:39] <MikeRL> That's strange. The GUI shown no adapters found.
[0:39] <friendofafriend> Are you doing a proper shutdown?
[0:40] <MikeRL> Through the GUI yes.
[0:40] <MikeRL> I am configured to start emulationstation at boot.
[0:40] <MikeRL> I then switch virtual terminals and do a startx.
[0:41] <MikeRL> Maybe it's out of memory or something.
[0:41] <MikeRL> But it does not seem slow.
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[0:43] <friendofafriend> I'd probably inquire in #retropie. Maybe test if you have the same problem with Raspbian.
[0:44] <friendofafriend> You could try an "iw list" from the command line.
[0:45] <MikeRL> I actually have RetroPie installed on top of Raspbian. But that sounds like the place to check. Maybe it's causing the problem?
[0:46] <friendofafriend> If you weren't having these problems before installing RetroPie, I certainly would.
[0:46] <friendofafriend> Do you get output from "iw list"
[0:46] <friendofafriend> ?**
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[0:46] <MikeRL> Sure. Give me a sec.
[0:47] <MikeRL> https://del.dog/ufunuqanoc.pl
[0:48] <friendofafriend> Looks like a happy device.
[0:48] <friendofafriend> Do you get output from "iwconfig"?
[0:48] <MikeRL> Yeah I've since rebooted it.
[0:48] <MikeRL> I am posting from it.
[0:49] <MikeRL> Should I grab the output next time it bugs out?
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[0:53] <friendofafriend> MikeRL: At least you know what it looks like when things are working, you can investigate when things aren't.
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[0:56] <MikeRL> Yeah.
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[0:56] <MikeRL> Thanks for the help.
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[0:58] <friendofafriend> Welcome, anytime.
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[1:21] <_unreal_> hello
[1:21] <_unreal_> does any one know of an RPI hat that breaks out all of the GPIO's and boosts them to TTL from 3.3v
[1:21] <_unreal_> ?
[1:21] <_unreal_> buffer
[1:22] <HighInBC> no but it would not be that complicated
[1:23] <HighInBC> I have used a 74HCT245 for that before
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[1:25] <HighInBC> gives you 8 ports
[1:26] <HighInBC> I don't know of one premade, but I have never looked
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[1:31] <_unreal_> HighInBC, i'm in a bit of a bind I thinik?
[1:32] <HighInBC> there are plenty of level shifter boards, not necessarily hats though
[1:32] <_unreal_> I have a tinkerboard not a PI but same formfactor.... I purchased a PROTONEER cnc hat but
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[1:32] <_unreal_> I now just heard that the bluetooth has to be disabled for that hat to work?
[1:32] <_unreal_> i'm not sure if thats true or not?
[1:33] <HighInBC> these work but you just have to wire it https://www.ebay.ca/itm/5Set-4-Channel-Bi-Directional-Logic-Level-Shifter-Converter-3-3V-5V-for-Arduino/183597017754
[1:33] <_unreal_> HighInBC, https://forum.protoneer.co.nz/viewtopic.php?f=22&t=7161
[1:34] <_unreal_> HighInBC, :) I have a hand full of those...
[1:34] <_unreal_> I was hopping to be lazy
[1:34] <_unreal_> HighInBC, https://www.kickstarter.com/projects/land-boards/ultimate-i-o-hat-for-the-raspberry-pi
[1:35] <HighInBC> looks solids
[1:35] <HighInBC> kickstarter, a place full of wonderful things that you can't buy
[1:35] <HighInBC> this one you can
[1:35] <HighInBC> rare
[1:35] <_unreal_> HighInBC, the protoneer link talks about having to disable bluetooth
[1:35] <_unreal_> ya....
[1:36] <HighInBC> I don't know anything about that
[1:36] <_unreal_> though its not giving enough I/O's at 5v
[1:36] <_unreal_> only 16bit
[1:36] <_unreal_> I need 18bit
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[1:37] <_unreal_> HighInBC, well this is what I'm looking at.... I would like to use the GPIO's like a parallel port so I can run linuxcnc on my board
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[1:37] <_unreal_> not really 100% sure yet how to go about doing this. Other then my board and the RPI are 99% identical out side of cpu/mem specs
[1:37] <HighInBC> right... I am not sure a pi is up to that task in terms of real time response
[1:38] <_unreal_> I have an ASUS tinkerboard
[1:38] <HighInBC> oh
[1:38] <HighInBC> I thought a rpi
[1:38] <_unreal_> my board can use pi gear
[1:38] <_unreal_> :)
[1:38] <HighInBC> ahhhhh
[1:38] <HighInBC> I hooked an arduino up to mine
[1:38] <_unreal_> 99% same formfactor
[1:39] <_unreal_> ya I got the tinker because its preformance blows rpi out of the water BUT tinker has a crippling power problem...
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[1:40] <_unreal_> I'm going nuts right now becaues I cant find my programmer. I have a lot of drone/quad copter gear. and one of the things I have is an adjustable power supply that you can program the output. I want to up the output voltage to about 5.4v to overcome the boards power problem where it fails to boot on low voltage.
[1:41] <HighInBC> cnc is more about real time performance than overall performance. even a little 8 bit microcontroller can manage it, it has the advantage of not having an OS eating up cycles at the wrong moment
[1:41] <_unreal_> ya tell me about it
[1:41] <_unreal_> I use to run my old cnc machine using an old 486 dos laptop
[1:42] <_unreal_> 486 66mhz running turbocnc never skipped a beat
[1:42] <_unreal_> part of the reason for my choice I figure its specs are so much higher it should do a good job.
[1:42] <HighInBC> I made essentially this: http://images.highinbc.com/GRBL_Nano_to_DB25.png
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[1:43] <_unreal_> ya thats exactly what that progoneer hat is
[1:43] <HighInBC> an arduino attached to a parallel port which plugs right into the CNC, which presents as a usb serial port and accepts GRBL
[1:43] <HighInBC> nice
[1:44] <_unreal_> My problem is that non of the grbl programs will except my pendent
[1:44] <HighInBC> how do they even work?
[1:45] <_unreal_> I have a whbo4b-6
[1:45] <HighInBC> are they a bunch of individual signals or are they a data stream
[1:45] <_unreal_> google that
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[1:49] <_unreal_> HighInBC, ?
[1:50] <HighInBC> I am watching tv
[1:50] <HighInBC> you google that :)
[1:51] <_unreal_> I did
[1:51] <_unreal_> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VisK2860pfA
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[3:51] <sinned6915> #!/bin/sh; gpio -1 mode 12 out ; gpio -1 write 12 0
[3:51] <sinned6915> dho, sorry. mouse focus
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[4:13] <st3fann> Hello, any idea why my pi would be able to boot from NOOBS but not any kind of image flashed to the SD card?
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[4:15] <Snert> raspbian from the raspbian website works for me. Just any old kind of image - I have my doubts if that would work.
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[4:17] <sinned6915> i am trying to figure out the 'best' way ton control a cooling fan for my raspi
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[4:17] <sinned6915> i understand the current limitation and using a transistor to work as a realy
[4:18] <sinned6915> what I am having a hard time to evelaute and undertand is the python, scipt, 'node.js' ways of controlling it all
[4:18] <st3fann> Snert: I am trying to install CrankShaft which only comes as an image, that doesnt work. Then I tried the latest raspbian image as a control and that didn't work either. I am flashing via Etcher, tried both mac and PC neither work
[4:18] <st3fann> just shows no signal on the HDMI, but the screen is powered via USB from the PI so it turns on, just no image
[4:18] <sinned6915> which way would created least overhead for cpu ?
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[5:04] <Snert> st3fann, I fry the image using windows...after it verifies I stick the card in my mac and add a file called ssh. That makes the pi an ssh server when it first starts up.
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[5:06] <Snert> maybe if you try that and tell us where that process stops, we can help.
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[5:19] <st3fann> Snert: what software do you use to flash on Windows? and Im guessing raspbian OS?
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[5:20] <Snert> yep. Etcher.
[5:20] <Snert> after it's done you gotta tell windows to get out of the way cuz it doesn't recognize the fresh raspbian card.
[5:21] <st3fann> Ill give that a try tomorrow, getting a bit late here and I don't want to have pent up frustration before bed
[5:21] <Snert> then just kick it out and take it to your mac and do the ssh file thing.
[5:21] <st3fann> just a blank ssh file right? And in the boot partition?
[5:21] <Snert> just like the docs say.
[5:21] <st3fann> perfect, Ill give it a try, thank you!
[5:22] <Snert> a raspbian card shows up just fine on a mac.
[5:22] <Snert> well.... any modern mac.
[5:22] <st3fann> yeah, just the one partition though
[5:25] <Snert> if you get that far then it's known that the raspbian card is good.
[5:25] <Snert> (most likely)
[5:28] <Snert> just make sure your card is big enuff I use a 16gig
[5:28] <Snert> 8 is fine too. I never tried 4
[5:29] <Snert> I save the 4gig cards for my beaglebone black and I don't use them on my various pi
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[5:37] <sinned6915> kinda how i am leaning - https://www.raspberrypi.org/forums/viewtopic.php?t=91889
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[5:40] <toastintheshell> I'm setting up a 2B as a home network router with ipfire, seems to be working pretty well so far, except the whole thing seems to have borked itself after updating
[5:41] <toastintheshell> not sure if it's unfixable, although I just set it up, so I'll probably just reinstall and try the update again anyway
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[5:42] <toastintheshell> I wanted to change some things about initial configuration anyway
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[5:46] <toastintheshell> I have the internet come in through my ISP's router over wifi for now during testing, although I'll probably set up a wired connection at some point, or possibly connect directly to the ISP if I decide to change providers to one that lets you use your own router
[5:48] <toastintheshell> Then it's connected to a switch to distribute to my other machines with eth ports, and it has its own AP for my wireless devices
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[5:49] <toastintheshell> the whole thing's relatively straightforward to set up, if the update breaking everything problem is a fluke I'd definitely recommend trying it out
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[5:50] <toastintheshell> It has a nice little web interface for configuration too, I like it more than most router webUIs I've dealt with
[5:51] <toastintheshell> Anybody know if there's a way to make a pi emulate a cisco device though? cause that'd be great for studying for the CCNA
[5:52] <toastintheshell> Like CiscoIOS on pi would be super handy
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[6:02] <swift110> hey all
[6:03] <toastintheshell> swift110: hi
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[6:18] <swift110> how are you toastintheshell
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[8:06] <petronny> Hi, is the SD0 (pin 22-27) used to talk to the on-board eMMC on RPi CM3?
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[8:07] <petronny> Should I leave them as default and not to use them as I/O pins?
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[10:19] <hungrywolf> I'm trying to mount raspberry pi via nfs on my fedora
[10:19] <hungrywolf> It keeps mounting as read only file system
[10:19] <hungrywolf> I've tried remount, trying many styles of /etc/exports and mount command
[10:19] <hungrywolf> but no luck
[10:20] <hungrywolf> I've tried using google but none of the solutions I've looked at fix my problem
[10:20] <hungrywolf> can someone help me
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[11:26] <ztane> hi. anyone using ubuntu mate? lately had a problem when the sdcard is corrupted after *any* powerout, but on boot the root is already mounted read-write when the rescue shell comes up and of course it cannot be fscked
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[11:33] <BurtyB> ztane, no idea about ubuntu but you can probably "mount -o remount,ro /" it to allow fsck to run
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[11:34] <ztane> BurtyB: good idea but remounting didn't work, and neither does fsck like readonly disks
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[11:34] <ztane> would need to somehow make the root into a readonly filesystem all the time really...
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[12:02] <Ad0> was the 2nd uart emulated and shared with BT? or is it a "real" uart?
[12:03] <Ad0> that is hardware uart and not software :)
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[12:09] <BurtyB> Ad0, there are 2 hardware uarts of differing quality https://www.raspberrypi.org/documentation/configuration/uart.md
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[12:38] <Ad0> thanks BurtyB
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[13:13] <davr0s> anyone around?
[13:14] <davr0s> anyone here used a tablet as a screen for an rpi.. i guess VNC is the common approach,
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[13:14] <davr0s> is there a way to do it directly.. (rpi->USB->tablet .. tablet functioning as a USB monitor effectively..)
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[15:09] <nine_9> hi guys. is it possible to somehow get the hdmi 'timings' being used by the rpi, or maybe find out the timings for a hdmi mode? i thought vcgenmd could do that but apparently it can't and i really need that info
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[19:35] <korryd> I'm interested in building a wifi extender (not an ethernet to wifi bridge). Can anyone point me to some useful information?
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[19:37] <DanielTheFox> korryd: I don't remember the sources, but I've "done" that
[19:38] <DanielTheFox> the thing is, the Pi cannot bridge like that
[19:38] <DanielTheFox> it can only NAT between these
[19:38] <korryd> apologies for the naive question, but is that a problem?
[19:39] <DanielTheFox> korryd: for just internet access, nope
[19:39] <Habbie> there is no official protocol for extending wifi
[19:39] <Habbie> so it either involves secretly keeping a lot of IP state
[19:39] <DanielTheFox> some implement so-called WDS, but nothing is standard
[19:39] <Habbie> or doing it with one of the unofficial protocols assuming your primary AP also supports one
[19:39] <DanielTheFox> 802.11 doesn't provide any facility for bridging between two access points
[19:39] <Habbie> DanielTheFox, WDS doesn't even mean a lot - there's a 3 tuple and 4 tuple variant i recall and you have to be lucky about two devices being compatible
[19:40] <Habbie> indeed
[19:40] <DanielTheFox> it was meant to bridge between wired and wireless
[19:40] <DanielTheFox> (which is happening right now at my home)
[19:40] <korryd> sounds like I need to learn more before I tackle this
[19:41] <DanielTheFox> I had to learn how LAN worked and how to put a DHCP server before making this private LAN at my room
[19:41] <DanielTheFox> my netbook grabs internet from WiFi and throws it away already NATted, through wired interface
[19:41] <DanielTheFox> so non-WiFi computers can use internet
[19:42] <DanielTheFox> but it gets better! it turned out that I use a lot the internal network, and then cellphones can't directly access the machines in the LAN
[19:42] <DanielTheFox> so I put a semi-broken router that just made my already-made LAN available as WLAN
[19:42] <DanielTheFox> and it's working like a charm
[19:44] <ali1234> why didn't you just bridge the interfaces?
[19:44] <DanielTheFox> because dad's router has MAC whitelist
[19:44] <DanielTheFox> and, well, if I want to put more devices, I really need the NAT
[19:44] <Habbie> ali1234, you cannot 'just' bridge ethernet and wifi
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[19:45] <DanielTheFox> since that way, every device behind that NAT will connect to the NAT, and the NAT will handle everything now and then
[19:45] <DanielTheFox> for the router, everything is made by my netbook
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[19:46] <ali1234> Habbie: of course you can
[19:46] <DanielTheFox> you can, yes
[19:46] <DanielTheFox> but again, if I bridge, all the devices will connect transparently to the AP
[19:46] <DanielTheFox> which is not allowed
[19:46] <Habbie> oh, that just passes through the MAC?
[19:46] <Habbie> subject to primary AP MAC whitelisting?
[19:47] <ali1234> yes
[19:47] <DanielTheFox> yes
[19:47] <Habbie> ah yes, that would work
[19:47] <Habbie> except not for DanielTheFox
[19:47] <ali1234> it passes through all packets including ARP
[19:47] <DanielTheFox> the NAT is necessary in my usecase
[19:47] <DanielTheFox> (also, I like having a private high-speed LAN here)
[19:47] <ali1234> yes it won't work if you have MAC filtering in effect unless you add every ethernet device to the whilelist
[19:47] <DanielTheFox> yap
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[20:42] <Wafficus> how do i monitor connections that ate being made to my raspberry pi?
[20:42] <Wafficus> *are
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[20:43] <friendofafriend> You could try iptraf.
[20:43] <friendofafriend> netstat will show you established connections.
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[20:45] <friendofafriend> And if you're just looking for an updating list of users on a certain port... say, 25565... You could do a: watch -n 3 'netstat -a | grep 25565'
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[20:48] <Wafficus> cool thanks!
[20:48] <friendofafriend> Very welcome, Wafficus.
[20:48] <Wafficus> just wanted to make sure i dont get unwarranted access to the Pi ha
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[20:50] <friendofafriend> When you run a service on the Internet, everyone can have a try at it.
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[21:49] <NeoThermic> So yeah, if you're thinking about trying the Win10 proper builds on a rPi, do yourself a favour and seek out a decent A2 microSD; the speed difference is huge
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[21:51] <friendofafriend> NeoThermic: Tried booting from USB?
[21:52] <NeoThermic> the A2 is faster than even my best USB3 stick :P
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[21:53] * DanielTheFox has a U1 microSD card
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[21:57] <indomitable> NeoThermic, is a2 better than a1?
[21:57] <NeoThermic> massively
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[21:57] <indomitable> how much more expensive is it
[21:57] <NeoThermic> not overly much more
[21:58] <indomitable> NeoThermic, you lie
[22:00] <NeoThermic> currently on amazon UK, the A2 Sandisk extreme 64GB is £17.67, and the A1 version of the same card is £26.55
[22:00] <indomitable> I only buy 32 gb ones for rpis
[22:00] <indomitable> no need for more
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[22:00] <indomitable> you can't get a2 less than 64
[22:00] * DanielTheFox has 32 GB for his 3B+
[22:00] <indomitable> meaning you can never have a good price comparison :p
[22:01] <indomitable> DanielTheFox, A2?
[22:01] <DanielTheFox> of course not
[22:01] <DanielTheFox> it's U1
[22:01] <indomitable> U1 isn't good
[22:01] <indomitable> lol
[22:01] <NeoThermic> indomitable, my words were not lies, you changed the conditions of the question after asking it :P
[22:01] <DanielTheFox> indomitable: it was 5 USD when I got it, you know :D
[22:01] <indomitable> NeoThermic, They're lies now!
[22:01] <indomitable> Post-truth society, etc.
[22:02] <NeoThermic> heh
[22:02] <indomitable> NeoThermic, I might have gotten one of these if they were available in 32 GB
[22:02] <NeoThermic> they might make 32GB ones at some point
[22:03] <indomitable> doubt it
[22:03] <indomitable> it'll be 32 TB ones by then
[22:03] <indomitable> lol
[22:03] <NeoThermic> but yeah, I snagged two of them when they were on discount yesterday for £13 each
[22:03] <indomitable> great, you can send me one
[22:03] <indomitable> ;)
[22:03] <indomitable> anyway
[22:03] <NeoThermic> sure, £17 + postage pls? ;)
[22:03] <indomitable> wanting to run W10 on your rpi is cancerous and indicative of mental illness
[22:04] <NeoThermic> oh, I qualify for that for sure
[22:04] <NeoThermic> I mean, I always run windows on hardware it wasn't designed for
[22:04] <indomitable> cancer?
[22:04] <NeoThermic> no, the mental illness part :D
[22:05] * DanielTheFox doesn't appear to like modern Windows :3
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[22:05] <friendofafriend> Got no love for Windows, but it's run on non-x86 platforms, historically.
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[22:09] <indomitable> friendofafriend, wat
[22:10] <friendofafriend> indomitable: WinNT ran on PowerPC, for example.
[22:10] <indomitable> friendofafriend, what a terrible mistake
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[22:10] <DanielTheFox> it ran on MIPS trashware
[22:10] <friendofafriend> And on the DEC Alpha, too.
[22:10] * DanielTheFox prefers RISC
[22:13] <friendofafriend> There are some Tegra-based Surface tablets, too.
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[22:17] <DanielTheFox> friendofafriend: two sides run
[22:17] <DanielTheFox> one that does boring server stuff
[22:17] <DanielTheFox> and one that lazies around with server stuff
[22:22] <DanielTheFox> now, there's another weird thing
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[22:27] <phinxy> What is faster? USB2 hard disk writing or trough ethernet ?
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[22:28] <indomitable> phinxy, lol
[22:30] <phinxy> lol
[22:30] <phinxy> I acknowledge your laughs
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[22:35] <neredsenvy> Can anyone recommend a decent vibration sensor. I want to make a hand tap board (game where you have 5-8 touch sensitive plates and you train your reflexes).
[22:36] <neredsenvy> Or maybe a durable button the plate would be 15x15cm
[22:36] <Tenkawa> neredsenvy: I thought adafruit made one that was a combo with leds and a few other sensors
[22:36] <Tenkawa> it was one of their hats
[22:37] <Tenkawa> I wish i still had the link handy
[22:37] <Tenkawa> it was at our local microcenter
[22:38] <Tenkawa> had all kinds of neat sensors and inputs on it
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[22:42] <neredsenvy> One concern I have vibration sensor might pick vibrations from other plates. Maybe a button would work better but I can't find any wider buttons : /
[22:42] <Tenkawa> nod
[22:43] <akk> How wide do the buttons need to be? I've seen little "Simon" game type 3x3 button arrays.
[22:43] <akk> I think those are maybe 2" wide per button.
[22:44] <akk> That's maybe too small for a fast reaction-time game.
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[22:46] <DanielTheFox> friendofafriend: VBlank each 40 scanlines, lasting each 15 scanlines, ignoring VSYNC and other clocks
[22:46] <DanielTheFox> sounds fun, isn't it?
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[22:51] <neredsenvy> Something the size of a palm
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