#raspberrypi IRC Log

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IRC Log for 2019-02-23

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[0:01] <rttncw> hi - maybe someone can help me out. i am only able to access tty1, 3 and 5. my cli freezes when i try to access 2, 4 or 6.
[0:01] <rttncw> any ideas?
[0:01] <DanielTheFox> rttncw: using a 3.5" screen?
[0:01] <DanielTheFox> the RPi appears to have two framebuffers running
[0:01] <rttncw> yeah
[0:01] <rttncw> exactly, 3,5"
[0:01] <DanielTheFox> and the kernel has assigned the tty's alternatively
[0:01] <DanielTheFox> it happened to me too
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[0:02] <DanielTheFox> do you ever use external HDMI/composite video output?
[0:02] <rttncw> i used it before i attached the 3,5"
[0:02] <DanielTheFox> ok, but gonna use them now?
[0:02] <rttncw> no, only the 3,5"
[0:02] <DanielTheFox> ok
[0:02] <DanielTheFox> I don't remember the exact command
[0:02] <DanielTheFox> con2fbmap
[0:02] <DanielTheFox> lemme check
[0:03] <rttncw> take your time and thanks alot in advance :)
[0:03] <DanielTheFox> yep
[0:03] <DanielTheFox> con2fbmap 2 1
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[0:03] <DanielTheFox> execute it as root
[0:03] <DanielTheFox> and now look at your brand-new working tty2
[0:04] <rttncw> may i kiss your eyes sir?
[0:04] <rttncw> :D
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[0:04] <DanielTheFox> not yet
[0:04] <DanielTheFox> in your file /etc/rc.local
[0:04] <DanielTheFox> (edit it as root with your favorite text editor)
[0:04] <DanielTheFox> at the end of the file
[0:04] <DanielTheFox> put the following lines:
[0:04] <DanielTheFox> con2fbmap 2 1
[0:04] <DanielTheFox> con2fbmap 4 1
[0:05] <DanielTheFox> con2fbmap 6 1
[0:05] <DanielTheFox> (now save and exit, reboot, and enjoy)
[0:05] <rttncw> roger
[0:05] <rttncw> i salute you, sir!
[0:05] <rttncw> :D thank you SO MUCH.
[0:05] <DanielTheFox> did it work?
[0:05] <DanielTheFox> test before saying thanks
[0:06] <davr0s> aanyone here used VNC (rpi <-> ipad)
[0:06] <DanielTheFox> davr0s: I don't use the built-in Raspbian VNC
[0:06] <DanielTheFox> I wonder if it counts
[0:06] <DanielTheFox> I use tightvnc
[0:06] <rttncw> the lines - i put them in _before_ exit 0
[0:06] <rttncw> right?
[0:06] <davr0s> thanks, that helps, "try something else.."
[0:06] <DanielTheFox> (not encrypted, but much lighther)
[0:06] <davr0s> i have just tried the inbuilt thing
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[0:07] <DanielTheFox> rttncw: lemme check what happens...
[0:07] <davr0s> could you just comment on the experience "tryig to use an ipad as an rpi monitor"
[0:07] <davr0s> good/bad/meh
[0:07] <DanielTheFox> rttncw: yes, before exit 0
[0:07] <rttncw> allright
[0:07] <DanielTheFox> it's alright, I put them there too
[0:07] <rttncw> brb.
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[0:08] <DanielTheFox> davr0s: I haven't used cellphone/tablet as VNC client
[0:08] <davr0s> ok just VNC -> PC i guess ?
[0:08] <DanielTheFox> and I haven't used built-in VNC over the internet, so I can't complain about bandwidth requirements
[0:09] <DanielTheFox> I use tightvnc because it's much lighter
[0:09] <rttncw> \o/ works like a charm!!!
[0:09] <DanielTheFox> but it's insecure, depending on your paranoia, you may want to stuff it in a SSH connection
[0:09] <DanielTheFox> rttncw: nice :D
[0:10] <davr0s> oh i can assume it's insecure and only use it for tasks i'm ok with being public lol
[0:10] <DanielTheFox> davr0s: yeah
[0:10] <DanielTheFox> it's not encrypted
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[0:10] <DanielTheFox> I think the RPi uses TigerVNC, which IS encrypted
[0:10] <DanielTheFox> (TLS-encrypted I think)
[0:11] <davr0s> I will give some context.
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[0:12] <davr0s> actually that wil be too convoluted
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[0:13] <DanielTheFox> yap
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[0:13] <DanielTheFox> tightvnc works well even on dial-up speeds (tested)
[0:15] <davr0s> oh awesome it works
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[0:25] <rttncw> DanielTheFox: i was looking around on message boards, asked two buddies who work with debian and own rPi´s themselves, two hours... hahaha. should have checked IRC earlier :D good lesson.
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[0:31] <norwood67> hey, does anyone know where you can buy more then one raspberry pi zero w at a time?
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[0:32] <rttncw> how many do you need?
[0:33] <norwood67> 10 at the moment but if the testing goes well, i'll going to buy 200
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[0:33] <norwood67> to a 1000 this year
[0:34] <rttncw> tried three shops, all of them show me only 1 per customer... :/
[0:34] <rttncw> maybe amazon?
[0:34] <immibis> have you tried something else, like an ESP8266 module?
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[0:35] <norwood67> yeah, that is what found
[0:35] <norwood67> need a full OS, does ESP8266 have one?
[0:35] <immibis> it seems like people are always complaining about shortages of raspberry pis
[0:35] <immibis> no I don't think so
[0:37] <norwood67> on amazon, they all come with extra stuff. i just want the board, i can add other stuff as needed and the cheapest is$20. Ebay also, i just want a bare board like Adafruit but they only sell one at a time
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[0:39] <drewbert> What can anybody tell me about uv4l. Who are its creators?
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[0:44] <norwood67> i wonder if tariffs have slowed the imports
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[0:46] <immibis> doubt it
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[5:27] <RoBo_V> can anyone suggest me music stream webplayer that can be installed on top of raspbian.
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[5:39] <larsks> RoBo_V: I dunno, maybe MPD? https://www.musicpd.org/
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[6:04] <toastintheshell> I forgot I did have a preconfigured osmc image with the amazon prime app, seems to work like a charm after updating
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[6:10] <toastintheshell> raspex, includes both netflix and amazon, widevine codec thingy didn't take long to update, only problem I had was getting it to connect to my wireless network
[6:13] <toastintheshell> still working on that, though it works fine on wired ethernet, just doesn't seem to authenticate properly, not sure what's going on with that (I'm pretty handy with networking, though my router is a real finnicky PITAPOS)
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[6:20] <RoBo_V> larsks: Alright I will try it. Thanks!
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[6:28] <toastintheshell> RoBo_V: no problem! I have been so frustrated by netflix and amazon lately trying to make it work on any raspi image (even Android and Windows10 on arm couldn't be made to work as far as I could tell)
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[6:30] <toastintheshell> I want to pay you money to view your content, do you not like money? I think the last time I pirated something was probably almost back in the good 'ol days of napster, but I was real close to that point.
[6:31] <RoBo_V> haha lol
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[6:37] <toastintheshell> I'm especially peaved considering the whole time there seems to have been this arm version of widevine (the decoder thingamabob [codec?] that broke netflix/amazon for rpi), but only available for chromeos... so the fix some saintly Kodi addon hackers devised involves downloading an entire 2gb chromeOS recovery image, extracting widevine, and inserting it into Kodi.
[6:39] <bltzfsck> like whittling a spoon out of a stick
[6:40] <toastintheshell> Feels to me kind of like if I bought a ticket to see a movie, then when I go in they say "oh, you drive a Honda? I'm afraid you're going to have to enter the theater through the ventilation system with all the other Honda drivers"
[6:41] <toastintheshell> good luck in the talent portion of the entry process!
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[6:54] <bltzfsck> toastintheshell: so you can't make google-chrome serve prime video with an rpi?
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[7:09] <RoBo_V> Pi's localhost 127.0.0.1 and its local IP not linked, how can I fix it.
[7:12] <toastintheshell> bltzfsck: there is no chrome for raspi, or any arm-based chrome available, EXCEPT for chromeOS
[7:15] <toastintheshell> and there is no path to getting chromeOS official running on a raspberry pi currently as far as I've read (and I've been looking into it a fair ammount considering the VOD services issues I've been trying to solve)
[7:19] <toastintheshell> chrome's open source red-headed stepchild *chromium* is available, and works quite well in my experience (I'd switch to firefox if it performed nearly as well), but there was no way to get widevine installed on it (possibly until extremely recently? I've literally *just* installed a package called chromium-widevine that I've never seen before)
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[7:21] <toastintheshell> RoBo_V: what exactly do you mean by 'local ip' and 'not linked'
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[7:22] <RoBo_V> I mean when I run server it starts on 127.0.0.1 and when I try to open it on local network (not on same machne) I try pi's local ip and it doesnt work.
[7:22] <RoBo_V> so I thought they have to be linked.
[7:22] <immibis> your server should start on 0.0.0.0 or the local network IP
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[7:24] <toastintheshell> yeah what immibis, It seems more likely you're just not serving to networks outside of localhost
[7:24] <RoBo_V> I see, How to fix that.
[7:24] <bltzfsck> yeah, i was happy using chromium until i wanted prime movies and had to run a separate desktop over the hdmi port
[7:24] <toastintheshell> I would imagine that would be within the server config itself, rather than a general networking issue
[7:25] <bltzfsck> with google-chrome
[7:25] <toastintheshell> bltzfsck: 'had to run a separate desktop over the hdmi port'...huh?
[7:25] <RoBo_V> toastintheshell: Ah alright, I though there might be global setting that I should refer to rather than tweaking every server config.
[7:26] <toastintheshell> RoBo_V: what server is it?
[7:26] <bltzfsck> yeah, second monitor, except it's the teevee
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[7:26] <bltzfsck> wouldnt work fast enough with chromecast, so i just plugged it straight into the television
[7:27] <RoBo_V> mopidy - altering its config file now.
[7:27] <bltzfsck> finally got my dern amazon prime movies
[7:28] <toastintheshell> RoBo_V: did you find any config options that sound like they might be relevant?
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[7:29] <RoBo_V> toastintheshell: Yes I got it and changed the ip.
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[7:32] <toastintheshell> so you were able to access it locally from the server machine, but not on the network initially? what was the config change that made it work?
[7:33] <RoBo_V> It was starting server at 127.0.0.1 - I changed that to pi local IP. All good now.
[7:34] <toastintheshell> makes sense, glad it was that simple
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[7:36] <pokmo> hi
[7:37] <pokmo> USB webcams are slow on the rpi. But is the CPU much utilised when a USB webcam is connected?
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[7:38] <toastintheshell> pokmo: not sure about USB webcams, do you know, or can you find out if it is using h.264 encoding?
[7:38] <pokmo> toastintheshell i believe it's not
[7:38] <pokmo> it's a cheap webcam
[7:38] <toastintheshell> also, which rpi type is it?
[7:39] <pokmo> 3 Model B+
[7:39] <toastintheshell> a lot of cheap webcams use h.264, what's the model?
[7:39] <pokmo> it's one of those ps3 eye
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[7:41] <pokmo> but what's actually causing the slowness with USB webcams?
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[7:44] <toastintheshell> pokmo: one factor is lack of usb3 support (if the device supports usb3)
[7:45] <pokmo> toastintheshell but webcams shouldn't need that much bandwidth
[7:45] <toastintheshell> you could try changing your rpi config to allocate more memory to the gpu and see if that makes a difference
[7:46] <toastintheshell> from what I'm reading there seems to be a lot more data coming out of the ps3eye than standard 2audio+1video
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[7:47] <toastintheshell> seems like it's uncompressed video by default?
[7:47] <pokmo> i've read that USB webcams are inherently slow on the rpi because it uses the CPU for encoding/decoding
[7:48] <pokmo> whereas rpi cameras that use the CSI interface use the GPU
[7:49] <toastintheshell> you're saying if it's coming through the usb interface it must be handled entirely by the cpu?
[7:50] <toastintheshell> if something like that is the case, can you try allocating more memory to the cpu?
[7:51] <pokmo> toastintheshell hmm looks like it
[7:51] <toastintheshell> also, I read something about the ability to switch the ps3eye output to jpeg encoding rather than uncompressed, I'd imagine that would help
[7:51] <pokmo> right
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[7:55] <toastintheshell> what resolution is it outputting? in my experience, rpi video applications that run slow at 1080p have huge performance gains in 720p (which might be slightly noticable, but I'll take a smooth softer picture over a crisp choppy laggy video any day)
[7:58] <toastintheshell> so unless fine detail is really important (e.g. performance gaming or any application where fine detail is crucial)
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[8:04] <pokmo> toastintheshell it's just 640x480
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[8:18] <toastintheshell> ohdamn, I'd think that'd be rather easy, although uncompressed 640x480 requires a whole lot pixel-by-pixel information that's heavy on the cpu, do you have the ability to switch to jpeg encoding?
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[9:02] <toastintheshell> apt-get upgrade in osmc gives me "Running apt-get upgrade on your system can cause adverse effects on your system. User apt-get dist-upgrade, which is the proper way to administer a Debian/Ubuntu system."
[9:03] <toastintheshell> who exactly do these osmc developers think they are telling me how to raise my nix?
[9:10] <toastintheshell> what are you my dad?
[9:13] <toastintheshell> in seriousness though, why would they say that exactly? doesn't seem to me like that view is shared by most of the major distros. I've also seen other distros make suggestions about better ways to do things like apt upgrades, but none that flat-out refused to perform the action and scold you for even suggesting it
[9:19] <toastintheshell> I gave my sister-in-law a new 3B+ today loaded with a bunch of cool stuff, trying to get her into more computery things, and of course in the first 5 minutes chromium completely freezes in gmail (only 1-tab open), no other user programs running.
[9:20] <toastintheshell> I'd really like to know what the best possible browsing experience on the rpi would be
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[9:43] <toastintheshell> like there's got to be a best cpu/gpu ram allocation setting for chromium browsing. I'd imagine disabling js by default and only enabling it when absolutely necessary should speed things up quite a bit. I think getting zram configured on the system should also help, since the lions share of the issues seem to come from too much ram usage. Alternatively to that, I'd think a large swap file should help,
[9:43] <toastintheshell> especially if it's running on the fastest possible storage medium. USB2 is no speed racer, but a good SSD over USB2 is roughly twice that of a microSD card from what I hear. I was also wondering how much/many ram/resources I could save by serving a browser in X directly without any wm (xserver over network to another pi that would provide the wm). Theoretically one machine not having to run a wm while
[9:43] <toastintheshell> dealing with running the browser should be faster, and the other machine not having the browser overhead while running the wm should be faster... only question is how much of the gains does the added network overhead cancel out?
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[9:51] <toastintheshell> I'd love to find another browser, or more extension that could speed up the browsing experience (e.g. noscript...), but every other browser I've tried seems to be complete garbage at rendering pages to the point of being unusable on the modern web. luakit is a really cool and super fast one with much closer-to-acceptable rendering, but it appears to be unmaintained since 2 years ago, and so likely pretty
[9:51] <toastintheshell> insecure. midori/dillo/dwb are all in a sad state and not much better on resources than chromium, and firefox seems way slower/more prone to run-away memory usage
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[10:32] <seek^126> well, thank you toastintheshell for sharing all that info :)
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[10:37] <Snert> toastintheshell, they're 14yo children therefore they know everything
[10:39] <danst> just use raspberry as a thin client
[10:39] <danst> wtf dude
[10:39] <danst> I prefer nomachine
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[11:24] <mlelstv> modern browsers need gigabytes of ram.
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[12:58] <lapideviridi> Morning. I have a raspberry pi connected to a software radio with ethernet, while I am communicating with the pi trough wifi. Just noticed that the pi does not have any internet connection. Pinging 8.8.8.8 gives me a "Network is unreachable" error. Interfaces: https://paste.ubuntu.com/p/jTttbjzWzG/ Raspbian GNU/Linux 9.6 (stretch)
[12:58] <lapideviridi> To clarify, I can connect fine trough ssh on the local network, but it doesn't have internet connection
[12:58] <lapideviridi> Any suggestions?
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[13:02] <pksato> lapideviridi: you set default gateway on RPi?
[13:03] <pksato> if using a static ip.
[13:05] <lapideviridi> pksato, probably not. That determines which gateway to be used for internet connection?
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[13:10] <lapideviridi> pksato, ip route add default via 192.168.43.1 did the trick for me. Seems it is only temporary, though. Should I remove the gateway-line from my interfaces file?
[13:13] <lapideviridi> Seems that the gateway line in interfaces sets the default gateway, while I only need to assign the address
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[13:17] <BurtyB> lapideviridi, if you're using raspbian you should most likely be reading the warning at the top of the file and configuring it in /etc/dhcpcd.conf
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[17:11] <taza> So does the RPi4 already have designed mitigations for that problem where you feed the 3 spec within USB power and it whines about undervoltage?
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[17:11] <taza> s/spec within/within spec/
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[17:17] <taza> (In case someone doesn't know yet, the Pi will complain about undervoltage while being provided plenty of power by a high-end supply because it's not working within the spec of the connection standard it uses)
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[17:20] <Habbie> taza, there is no rpi4
[17:21] <taza> Is it too much to ask for people to read context?
[17:22] <Habbie> i read everything that you typed
[17:23] <taza> There is no RPi4; there probably will be a RPi4.
[17:23] <Habbie> sure
[17:23] <Habbie> and absolutely nothing about it is known
[17:23] <taza> ... you know absolutely nothing, you mean.
[17:23] <Habbie> nothing has been announced or published
[17:23] <Habbie> there might be a few people that know
[17:23] <Habbie> but they are not telling
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[17:24] <taza> To you.
[17:24] <Habbie> ok, bye
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[20:14] <friendofafriend> Howdy, Klaus_Dieter.
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[22:11] <DanielTheFox> friendofafriend, hello
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[22:15] <friendofafriend> Howdy, DanielTheFox! Having fun with rpitx?
[22:16] <DanielTheFox> yep
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[22:16] <DanielTheFox> had problems guessing out how to use it
[22:16] <DanielTheFox> and I can't emit AM
[22:16] <DanielTheFox> but, for FM radio, it works like a charm
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[22:19] <friendofafriend> AM can be tricky. You might play with system-bus-radio. https://github.com/fulldecent/system-bus-radio
[22:20] <friendofafriend> Do you still have a CRT? http://www.erikyyy.de/tempest/
[22:20] <DanielTheFox> I'm gonna try channel3
[22:20] <DanielTheFox> let's see what quality comes out there
[22:20] <friendofafriend> Channel3 is for the ESP8266.
[22:20] <DanielTheFox> hrm
[22:20] <DanielTheFox> not like rpitx?
[22:21] <DanielTheFox> w/e
[22:21] <friendofafriend> It is like rpitx, just for the ESP8266.
[22:21] <friendofafriend> And pretty good for transmitting on less than $1US.
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[22:24] <DanielTheFox> heh
[22:24] <DanielTheFox> friendofafriend, do you have radio receiving equipment?
[22:24] <DanielTheFox> (for the Pi=
[22:24] <DanielTheFox> )
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[22:31] <friendofafriend> Yes, I am using RTL-SDR dongles on each Pi, and some CC1101L transceivers.
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[22:33] <DanielTheFox> are these dongles expensive?
[22:33] <DanielTheFox> also, can you receive AM/FM radio from these?
[22:33] <friendofafriend> Not very, about $7 each.
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[22:34] <friendofafriend> You can receive FM. The dongles you can buy now will tune from 25MHz to 1766MHz.
[22:35] <friendofafriend> There is technically FM radio available on the BCM43438 chip in the Pi3.
[22:35] <friendofafriend> It's just there was no pad for it, and I think the PCB would need another layer to break out that function.
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[22:36] <ekiro> how do i get a fresh rapbian lite build to have access to the latest 18.04 ubuntu packages?
[22:36] <friendofafriend> ekiro: By running Ubuntu.
[22:37] <ekiro> if i install a fresh copy of ubuntu on my pi, how do i get the raspbian tools?
[22:38] <friendofafriend> ekiro: Are you talking about raspi-config?
[22:38] <ekiro> yes sir
[22:38] <friendofafriend> I would take a look here. https://wiki.ubuntu.com/ARM/RaspberryPi
[22:38] <ekiro> thx
[22:38] <friendofafriend> There is a repo that contains raspi-config, but it's just a script that can be downloaded.
[22:38] <ekiro> is raspi-config the only thing that comes with rasbian?
[22:38] <ekiro> there is no other difference?
[22:39] <friendofafriend> No, it's the kernel, there's some other software. But that Ubuntu Raspberry Pi install should have all of it.
[22:39] <ekiro> cool
[22:39] <ekiro> ill try it thx
[22:40] <ekiro> the raspberry 3+ pi is ARMHF right?
[22:40] <friendofafriend> No problem. Check out https://github.com/RPi-Distro/raspi-config if you need the script.
[22:40] <friendofafriend> Yes, ARMHF.
[22:40] <ekiro> thx
[22:40] <ekiro> ill try it and see what happens
[22:41] <friendofafriend> Always welcome, good luck to you.
[22:42] <DanielTheFox> friendofafriend, system-bus-radio
[22:42] <DanielTheFox> it works fair enough
[22:44] <friendofafriend> Cool! It's neat for exfiltrating data over an "airgap".
[22:44] <DanielTheFox> I still like rpitx tho
[22:44] <DanielTheFox> I tested it for walkie-talkies as receivers
[22:44] <DanielTheFox> it has some small deffects related to some inaccuracies on the sender side
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[22:45] <friendofafriend> Hey, that's excellent! Do you have AM mode on your walkie talkies, or were you using a normal radio?
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[22:45] <DanielTheFox> FRS/GMRS frequencies
[22:45] <DanielTheFox> FRS and GMRS work on super tight and narrow bands
[22:46] <DanielTheFox> so the RPi is not really precise enough to emit stuff there
[22:46] <friendofafriend> Yep, they're "NFM", as they say. You should be able to transmit to them.
[22:46] <DanielTheFox> yep
[22:46] <DanielTheFox> but how do I do that? :)
[22:46] <DanielTheFox> I used the regular pifmrds executable
[22:46] <DanielTheFox> and it requires me reduce the volume to 1% original value
[22:47] <DanielTheFox> and trial-and-error on 463.X and 467.X bands
[22:47] <DanielTheFox> and putting receiver walkie-talkie on scanner mode
[22:47] <friendofafriend> Oh, that's transmitting "WFM" (wide FM).
[22:47] <DanielTheFox> yes
[22:47] <DanielTheFox> once I found what frequency matched with the walkie-talkie
[22:47] <DanielTheFox> it sounded "well"
[22:48] <DanielTheFox> some filter on the walkie-talkie brings quality very low, like analog telephone :)
[22:48] <DanielTheFox> friendofafriend, however, how do I send narrow FM from the rpitx programs? :)
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[22:49] <friendofafriend> Check over here. https://github.com/ha7ilm/rpitx-app-note
[22:49] <friendofafriend> For microphone to NFM, they're using: arecord -c1 -r48000 -D plughw:CARD=Device,DEV=0 -fS16_LE - | csdr convert_i16_f | csdr gain_ff 7000 | csdr convert_f_samplerf 20833 | sudo rpitx -i- -m RF -f 28400
[22:50] <DanielTheFox> ook
[22:51] <DanielTheFox> I'm gonna have to implement a script for that :)
[22:51] <ekiro> is it possible to mount the .img file on the SD card inside the RPi that hosts the linux OS i am using?
[22:52] <friendofafriend> ekiro: mkdir /tmp/loop ; sudo mount -o loop ./imagefile.img /tmp/loop
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[22:52] <friendofafriend> DanielTheFox: You may need to mess with that "28400" part to get the right frequency for your walkie-talkies.
[22:52] <DanielTheFox> yap
[22:52] <DanielTheFox> I'm gonna test later on
[22:53] <friendofafriend> For sure! Then your Raspi will have a voice! ;)
[22:53] <DanielTheFox> kinda I prefer that easier pifmrds thingie
[22:53] <DanielTheFox> maybe I'll have to implement similar program onto script for NFM
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[22:54] <friendofafriend> That's really good for transmitting to a normal AM/FM radio that expects WFM.
[22:54] <DanielTheFox> yap
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[22:59] <DanielTheFox> friendofafriend, do you have radio-sending equipment for the RPi? (dedicated ones)
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[23:00] <friendofafriend> Yes, but nothing SDR. The FL2K-SDR hack only works well with USB3. I'm using a CC1101L for transmitting data.
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[23:01] <DanielTheFox> heh
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[23:01] <DanielTheFox> what frequencies?
[23:01] <friendofafriend> I'd like to try one of those RFM69.
[23:01] <DanielTheFox> (the radio-senders)
[23:02] <friendofafriend> The CC1101L only transmits around 315MHz and 433MHz. There's a high frequency version that was a little more expensive, that does 915MHz.
[23:02] <friendofafriend> But that's not the "L", I think it's the "H".
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[23:04] <friendofafriend> I was building some access points, and I wanted a way for them to chatter out-of-band if the wired network went down.
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[23:05] <DanielTheFox> that's what I want too
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[23:05] <DanielTheFox> are they RX/TX?
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[23:06] <friendofafriend> Yes, they RX and TX. Check out https://github.com/f4exb/picc1101 for code.
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[23:06] <friendofafriend> I've seen some PCBs that turn a CC1101L into a hat, kinda.
[23:07] <DanielTheFox> coool
[23:07] <DanielTheFox> could you send me two? :P
[23:07] * DanielTheFox runz
[23:07] <friendofafriend> Shipping would cost more by a long shot. https://salmg.net/2017/09/20/cc1101-transceiver-raspberry-pi/
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[23:08] <friendofafriend> But you can get rpitx to transmit and a CC1101 to receive the transmission.
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[23:11] <DanielTheFox> friendofafriend, hopefully I can get some money and buy it here, and wait until it arrives. Shame I can't buy bulk RPi 0w (it's often labeled to only one per visit)
[23:11] <friendofafriend> DanielTheFox: Yes, the shipping will kill you on those one-per-order Zeroes.
[23:12] <DanielTheFox> hopefully I can buy more expensive stuff that I'd want
[23:12] <friendofafriend> If you send a mail to a reseller, they may make an exception for you. Just don't tell anyone if they do. ;)
[23:12] <DanielTheFox> hmm
[23:12] <DanielTheFox> haha
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[23:12] <DanielTheFox> better trying regular methods
[23:12] <DanielTheFox> >.>
[23:12] <DanielTheFox> <.<
[23:12] * DanielTheFox lies
[23:12] <DanielTheFox> w/e
[23:13] <DanielTheFox> will the Pi 3A+ allow gadget mode too?
[23:13] <DanielTheFox> it lacks ethernet and has only one port, but the only USB port isn't OTG
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[23:14] <friendofafriend> Looks like most CC1101Ls are $2.50US plus the same amount for shipping.
[23:14] <DanielTheFox> heh
[23:15] <friendofafriend> But if I were paying $5, I would pay $7 for an RTL-SDR first. You can do a lot more.
[23:15] <DanielTheFox> heh
[23:15] <DanielTheFox> I should actually buy about $30 on stuff on the same order
[23:15] <friendofafriend> I'll bet there's very interesting radio communications near you.
[23:15] <DanielTheFox> and hopefully paying only one shipping
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[23:16] <DanielTheFox> ...aaand not really, the maker scene is nearly zero :)
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[23:16] <friendofafriend> Oh, near the border? And with UHF SATCOM pirates around? I bet you would have lots to listen to.
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[23:17] <DanielTheFox> near the... south border
[23:17] <friendofafriend> Here's a fellow listening to UHF satcom pirates with a RTL-SDR. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=T-Ls12UmXxM
[23:17] <DanielTheFox> but probably yes
[23:17] <DanielTheFox> maybe there might be even government transmissions :)
[23:18] <friendofafriend> Absolutely, and with an SDR you can even demodulate digital radios. It's like buying a $300 scanner radio for $7.
[23:18] <friendofafriend> https://www.radiohobbyist.org/blog/mypics/satcommap.jpg
[23:18] <DanielTheFox> heh
[23:22] <DanielTheFox> friendofafriend, do you have a Pi A+?
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[23:24] <friendofafriend> Oh heavens, no. They seem pretty neat, though.
[23:25] <DanielTheFox> hmm
[23:25] <DanielTheFox> so the only ones USB gadget-capable that we're sure they work are the Zero, Zero W and Zero WH
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[23:28] <taza> Any good way to test a power bank with a RPi?
[23:28] <taza> Preferably the B+.
[23:28] <friendofafriend> taza: When you say "test", what do you mean?
[23:28] <taza> I mean plugging the RPi in, and letting it drain the bank, and seeing how much capacity it has left
[23:29] <DanielTheFox> taza, ...just plug the big USB side to the power bank, the small "micro" end to the RPi
[23:29] <DanielTheFox> ah, ok
[23:29] <friendofafriend> That's an OK test, but load of the Raspi makes a big difference.
[23:29] <rcx1000> hey
[23:29] <friendofafriend> Hello, rcx1000.
[23:29] <DanielTheFox> hello rcx1000
[23:30] <rcx1000> anyone know if raspbian did a update ?
[23:30] <rcx1000> last night my pi was on
[23:30] <rcx1000> and it auto rebooted and started doing a update i think
[23:30] <friendofafriend> rcx1000: Raspbian doesn't update without you asking.
[23:30] <rcx1000> but doesnt seem to be working
[23:30] <rcx1000> its just in a loop
[23:31] <rcx1000> thats what i thought but it seemed to auto reboot and doing some sort of update
[23:31] <friendofafriend> Nope, Raspbian isn't auto-updating or auto-rebooting.
[23:31] <rcx1000> then why is mine
[23:31] <rcx1000> its now just stuck in a loop
[23:31] <taza> friendofafriend I was wondering if anyone had already made a tool that did it for me, preferably tracking how long it ran at 100% before it ran out of power.
[23:32] <friendofafriend> Could be a problem with your power supply. Might be a problem with your SD card.
[23:32] <DanielTheFox> rcx1000, what is it doing?
[23:32] <DanielTheFox> (do you have a screen to see what is it doing?)
[23:32] <rcx1000> flooding the screen with failed connection of some sort
[23:32] <rcx1000> but starts off saying its already using latest version of zmap and stuff
[23:33] <DanielTheFox> hrmmmm
[23:33] <rcx1000> then goes into a loop of lost connection
[23:33] <DanielTheFox> is the Pi facing the internet? (being a server of some sort?)
[23:33] <rcx1000> rc.local[378]
[23:33] <rcx1000> yes its connected
[23:33] <rcx1000> but does the same with the cable disconnected also
[23:33] <DanielTheFox> well
[23:33] <friendofafriend> taza: white true; do uptime > ~/uptime_test; sleep 120; done
[23:33] <DanielTheFox> what's in rc.local ?
[23:33] <rcx1000> literally just rebooted itself yesterday
[23:34] <rcx1000> no
[23:34] <rcx1000> clie
[23:34] <rcx1000> clue
[23:34] <rcx1000> the pi was just on last night
[23:34] <rcx1000> i didnt touch it
[23:34] <DanielTheFox> (pull the SD card, mount it accordingly on SD-capable computer, read /etc/rc.local)
[23:34] <rcx1000> then it auto rebooted
[23:34] <rcx1000> did it get hacked ?
[23:34] <taza> friendofafriend certainly an answer, but not really a good answer
[23:34] <DanielTheFox> rcx1000, that's what I'm suspecting
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[23:34] <friendofafriend> taza: I'm sorry, it's not?
[23:35] <friendofafriend> There was a typo: while true; do uptime > ~/uptime_test; sleep 120; done
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[23:35] <DanielTheFox> if you left the default pi account and didn't change the raspberry password and you left it being public-facing SSH server, then yes, it might have been hacked
[23:35] <taza> Well that doesn't make the entire idea less bad?
[23:35] <friendofafriend> taza: What gives you the impression that's a bad idea?
[23:36] <DanielTheFox> taza, simply let it run
[23:36] <friendofafriend> Running a battery bank flat without proper shutdown is a bad idea, also. It's bad ideas all 'round. Belly up to the bad idea bar.
[23:36] <taza> Did they ever track down what causes SD corruption? In addition, I need to set up a task with SSH to run it at 100%.
[23:36] <DanielTheFox> don't change the settings
[23:37] <DanielTheFox> and, well
[23:37] <friendofafriend> Try the program "stress".
[23:37] <ekiro> I decided to install ubuntu 18.04 on my pi though a bootable USB flash drive. the pi has a USB attached SATA and SD card. I am flashing the USB Flash drive right now. I assume once it is done I just plugin the USB flash drive and start the install process, correct?
[23:37] <taza> ...
[23:37] <DanielTheFox> according to many experiences (including mine), not all SD cards are made equal
[23:37] <DanielTheFox> some (like mine, 32GB U1 Kingston) stand improper shutdown with no bad sequel beyond having to do fsck on boot
[23:38] <taza> Uh, friendofafriend, I know what you're talking about, there's just a harder way to set it up that'd work better.
[23:38] <DanielTheFox> some do aggressive internal caching? some don't stand a single improper shutdown
[23:38] <DanielTheFox> and become too corrupted to be saved by fsck
[23:38] <DanielTheFox> (requiring re-imaging)
[23:38] <friendofafriend> taza: Then do it that way? It's a one liner, it'll tell you how long the machine was up within 2min.
[23:39] <taza> That's why I was asking if anyone knew of someone having done it already
[23:39] <taza> DanielTheFox I'd really rather not run a full OS at all doing things like this.
[23:39] <DanielTheFox> taza, true
[23:39] <DanielTheFox> but I sometimes do tests
[23:39] <friendofafriend> taza: I'm not sure exactly what you're after, if you're just looking for a "harder" and "better" way.
[23:39] <DanielTheFox> and notice /how/ much effort should I put on preventing that
[23:40] <DanielTheFox> personally, I prefer doing as little effort as possible
[23:40] <friendofafriend> That will provide you the information you seek. If you have another computer up, you could just run that command remotely.
[23:40] <DanielTheFox> (this is what is generally called "lazy")
[23:40] <friendofafriend> Lazy is a virtue.
[23:40] <DanielTheFox> you do hard things to do easy things later on
[23:40] <taza> friendofafriend I was asking if anyone knows of a ready solution, really
[23:40] <DanielTheFox> break your head once, relax now and then, forever
[23:40] <taza> [00:31] <taza> friendofafriend I was wondering if anyone had already made a tool that did it for me, preferably tracking how long it ran at 100% before it ran out of power.
[23:40] <friendofafriend> taza: Gave you one. One liner. Ready solution. Easy.
[23:40] <taza> As I said ten minutes ago
[23:41] <taza> You gave me a garbage solution in a condescending tone and won't let it go.
[23:41] <friendofafriend> Run stress, run the one liner. You'll have a file with the results after the Pi dies.
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[23:41] <taza> I can implement it myself, I'd just rather not repeat work other people have already done.
[23:41] <friendofafriend> And if you read text on a screen in a condescending tone, you should get mental help.
[23:41] <taza> Yes, because that's not an inappropriate tone in itself.
[23:42] <DanielTheFox> taza, alternatively, just put a cron.d job that writes a file "The Pi has been up x minutes"
[23:42] <DanielTheFox> then sync
[23:42] <friendofafriend> It must be dismal to think everyone is mocking you, taza.
[23:42] <friendofafriend> The problem with a cron job is that it will run on boot and clobber the results.
[23:42] <taza> [00:41] <friendofafriend> And if you read text on a screen in a condescending tone, you should get mental help.
[23:42] <DanielTheFox> it'd be easier if you append the output
[23:42] <DanielTheFox> :P
[23:42] <DanielTheFox> >> is magic
[23:43] <taza> Is this an appropriate way to behave, especially after ten minutes of yammering on about a bad answer?
[23:43] <friendofafriend> taza: The answer is fine, you're not right in your head. I hope you get help. Try the command above. You're not "writing" anything.
[23:43] <taza> Anyway, I didn't come here to get annoyed, so, uh, ignore list time.
[23:43] <DanielTheFox> taza, if we were aware about our answers being bad, we wouldn't even say them
[23:43] <friendofafriend> qq gb2hugbox.
[23:43] <DanielTheFox> we said so because they were right on hour heads
[23:43] <DanielTheFox> +our
[23:43] <DanielTheFox> *our
[23:44] <taza> DanielTheFox and that's why I asked for ready-made existing solutions that someone put more than five minutes of thought into
[23:44] <friendofafriend> lol, five minutes for a bash one-liner, eh? ;)
[23:44] <DanielTheFox> 5 minutes is not quite a "short" time
[23:44] <taza> Having the Pi boot directly into a 100% run mode that does nothing but tracks uptime takes a bit more effort to write but gets much easier results.
[23:44] <taza> Okay fine five seconds.
[23:45] <DanielTheFox> if you are sitting in front of a big dish with fried fish and you were told not to eat it until five minutes later, doing nothing during those five minutes, they'd be the longest 5 minutes ever in your life
[23:45] <taza> Nah.
[23:46] <DanielTheFox> or if you were in a roller coaster, that'd be longest minute ever
[23:46] <taza> And not the least because I can't stand fish.
[23:46] <DanielTheFox> I do
[23:46] <taza> Ever had an upper gastroscopy?
[23:46] <DanielTheFox> but just as not all SD cards are made equal, not everybody in the world is made equal
[23:46] <DanielTheFox> I don't remember having anything that ended in -scopy
[23:46] <taza> Oh you'd remember
[23:47] <DanielTheFox> actually, I don't remember being in an hospital ever in my life at all
[23:47] <taza> Takes about five minutes. Inevitably involves retching and a whole lot of discomfort.
[23:47] <DanielTheFox> ok
[23:47] <DanielTheFox> nonetheless, 5 minutes are long
[23:47] <DanielTheFox> it's 300 seconds
[23:47] <taza> Eh, not really still.
[23:48] <taza> But then I've been awake and without food for months at a time.
[23:48] <DanielTheFox> 300 seconds latency would be very long
[23:48] <DanielTheFox> 300 seconds for writing a whole program is not
[23:48] <DanielTheFox> why? it's the same 300 seconds
[23:48] <taza> Not aiming for a NASA job huh
[23:49] <DanielTheFox> given that my specific Pi is currently running at 800 MHz
[23:49] <DanielTheFox> each seconds is roughly 800 million cycles each second
[23:49] <DanielTheFox> and now multiply that by 300
[23:49] <DanielTheFox> it's a huge wait for a CPU
[23:50] <taza> Actually the CPU doesn't care.
[23:50] <taza> It's an inanimate object.
[23:50] <DanielTheFox> ...ok, that's my problem then
[23:50] <DanielTheFox> :)
[23:50] <DanielTheFox> I care about inanimate objects as if they were alive and listening to me
[23:51] <taza> Well they probably are if they're connected to the internet and have microphones.
[23:51] <DanielTheFox> (which is the reason I try to be as nice and easy for electronic devices as possible)
[23:51] <DanielTheFox> (and i get slightly upset when someone says the RPi is barely useless)
[23:52] <DanielTheFox> (as if someone said my 20-year old house is useless just because it can't be rebuilt more often)
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[23:53] <DanielTheFox> friendofafriend, either way
[23:53] <taza> DanielTheFox also my current solution is to have a light sensor on a device fully powered, and a known load off a light going from the power bank
[23:53] <taza> Because it's what I already have.
[23:53] <DanielTheFox> my super simple programs about running the Pi headless took about 1 hour for planning overall, and 15 minutes of writing code, overall again
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[23:54] <DanielTheFox> 1 hour of reading wiringPi docs, understanding how the thing works and how to make it do what I want, understanding what the pins do and how to make them useful by me
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[23:55] <DanielTheFox> and 15 minutes of writing all the programs overall
[23:55] <DanielTheFox> not exactly long, but you get what you spend :)
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[23:56] <taza> Listen I've spent hours troubleshooting a broken wire.
[23:57] <taza> I sure didn't get my time's worth that time.
[23:58] <taza> The answer was an intermittent connection btw.
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