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IRC Log for 2019-03-01

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[0:23] <Bitweasil> magic_ninja, as long as you absolutely don't transmit into it, you can transmit from a 3.3V device to a 5V device, usually.
[0:24] <Bitweasil> Just be absolutely sure that the 5V device can't put 5V on the signal lines for the Pi.
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[2:01] <jmft2> Hi, is it possible to get apt to install packages to an external drive rather than the SD card, which is filling up?
[2:02] <DanielTheFox> none easily doable without having to reinstall the whole system
[2:02] <DanielTheFox> is that external drive permanently connected?
[2:02] <jmft2> Yep
[2:03] <jmft2> Can you do something like
[2:03] <jmft2> mv /usr /media/external
[2:03] <jmft2> rm -r /usr
[2:03] <jmft2> mkdir /usr
[2:03] <jmft2> mount /media/external/usr /usr
[2:03] <DanielTheFox> you can copy the root directory to that drive (except /home), then set that drive as the root dir
[2:03] <DanielTheFox> so you'll have /home and / in separate drives
[2:05] <jmft2> Why would I want that?
[2:05] <_unreal_> sup
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[2:23] <aZz7eCh> Habbie, I went and bought some 5k ones soon as the shops opened just now. No diff same thing. Dropped it to a 1k resistor and now i have FAR less false triggers. how low a resistor can I go safely in order to try and keep it UP? i really want to just plow the 3v3 pin straight into it without a resistor at all at this stage
[2:24] <DanielTheFox> what kind of interference you have nearby?
[2:24] <aZz7eCh> well... at this stage, NONE. there is a 240v RCD in line before the USB power pack tho
[2:25] <DanielTheFox> large nearby electricity suckers can emit interference
[2:25] <DanielTheFox> but that line shouldn't cause interference that bad
[2:25] <DanielTheFox> then what's going on?
[2:25] <aZz7eCh> i'm only having false readings/floating once i plug in the cables that run to the actual buttons on the machines which is 2-3 feet
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[2:25] <DanielTheFox> oh, wait
[2:25] <aZz7eCh> theyre either dragging the V out too far and its reading as low, OR, the cables are acting as antenna
[2:26] <aZz7eCh> dropping 10k resistors on my pullups down to 1k, has helped a bunch ... but still unacceptable amounts
[2:27] <DanielTheFox> what are the buttons connected to?
[2:27] <aZz7eCh> huh?
[2:27] <aZz7eCh> the gpios
[2:27] <aZz7eCh> what
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[2:30] <aZz7eCh> https://snag.gy/sAMFpq.jpg
[2:30] <aZz7eCh> this is how i have the wiring
[2:30] <aZz7eCh> the 10k's are only 1k's now tho
[2:31] <aZz7eCh> and .... i only have the first circuit in play (VEND) and a test script for diagnosis at this stage. everything else depicted is unplugged at this stage
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[2:32] <aZz7eCh> ((will two 1k res in parallel give me 0.5k ? ))
[2:33] <aZz7eCh> else another run to the hsop
[2:34] <dTal> yes
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[2:35] <aZz7eCh> thanks
[2:50] <aZz7eCh> holy crapoly
[2:50] <aZz7eCh> after how many days of this
[2:50] <aZz7eCh> okay so ... dropping all the way to 0.5k resistor
[2:50] <aZz7eCh> has just about completely ended the false triggers
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[2:53] <aZz7eCh> is this of any consequence to the life of my pi's tho
[2:54] <aZz7eCh> i mean its 3v3 to 3v3gpio so should never be any harm withOUT resistors at all, right ?
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[2:55] <aZz7eCh> if its this easily triggering low then adding ground will always send it low surely
[3:00] <ali1234> the spec for rpi gpio is 16mA per pin and 51mA combined
[3:01] <ali1234> 1k resistor = 3.3mA
[3:01] <ali1234> so it is within spec
[3:02] <aZz7eCh> well
[3:02] <aZz7eCh> i'm about to put 180ohm res on these lines because i cant get them to stay high any other way
[3:02] <ali1234> did you check the built in pull ups?
[3:03] <aZz7eCh> they behave exactly the same as the 10k cricuit i started with 2 days ago
[3:03] <aZz7eCh> they are why i am trying external ones
[3:03] <artok> built-in pullups are 10k anyways
[3:03] <artok> or something like that
[3:03] <aZz7eCh> okay well ... its too much
[3:04] <aZz7eCh> i've told the code not to pull them up
[3:04] <artok> well in your application yes
[3:04] <aZz7eCh> and trying to do the circuit myself
[3:04] <artok> cables
[3:04] <aZz7eCh> see link above
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[3:04] <ali1234> it isn't clear to me what your diagram represents
[3:05] <aZz7eCh> https://snag.gy/TyzjrS.jpg it represents my acutally wiring see here
[3:06] <artok> ..part of it
[3:06] <artok> but still, yeah =)
[3:06] <ali1234> why do some parts have resistors and others dont?
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[3:07] <ali1234> why do some go directly to ground?
[3:07] <aZz7eCh> o0
[3:07] <aZz7eCh> the hell are you looking at
[3:07] <ali1234> https://snag.gy/sAMFpq.jpg
[3:07] <aZz7eCh> i only see one line back to ground bro
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[3:07] <ali1234> oh i see
[3:08] <ali1234> you are sending ground out over wires and then returning it
[3:08] <aZz7eCh> yep
[3:08] <aZz7eCh> the control "buttons" are ... 1 momentary push button for stop, 1 microswitch from a coin/token accpetor for vend, and the other two circuits are float switches.
[3:09] <aZz7eCh> as i said before tho - i only have the vend line in play atm
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[3:10] <ali1234> you should put the pull up resistors as close to the pi as possible
[3:11] <aZz7eCh> they're a normal distance ...
[3:11] <aZz7eCh> a whatsit ... u know...
[3:11] <aZz7eCh> 15cm dupont jumper lead cable away
[3:11] <aZz7eCh> oh you can see in the image i linked anyway
[3:11] <ali1234> in your picture the switches are not connected at all, and it is giving false signals like this?
[3:11] <artok> that's too far
[3:11] <aZz7eCh> no alil - i dont get false signals till i plug in the actual leads to that terminal block
[3:12] <ali1234> how long are those leads?
[3:12] <aZz7eCh> as i said - 2-3 feet
[3:12] <aZz7eCh> they either draw too much V away somehow
[3:12] <aZz7eCh> or act like antenna
[3:13] <aZz7eCh> and dont forget - this isn't turning anything on yet either ... god help me when the 240v pump is plugged in :P
[3:13] <aZz7eCh> i have 70+ of these in the field across the city running machines already
[3:13] <aZz7eCh> but i softwared out the noise
[3:14] <aZz7eCh> works fine, BUT ... occationally customers are putting in their token too fast and it gets filtered out just like the noise does
[3:14] <ali1234> it gives false switches when the switches are connected and you are not pressing them?
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[3:14] <aZz7eCh> are you trolling me guy ?
[3:15] <aZz7eCh> well with the switches particularly
[3:15] <aZz7eCh> yesterday i left them unplugged
[3:15] <aZz7eCh> and just plugged the leads in
[3:15] <aZz7eCh> same thing - with or without the actual switches on the ends
[3:15] <aZz7eCh> so its definitely etierh dropping V through the length of hte unconnected cable, OR ... acting like an antenna and somehow i have no idea ... dropping the V
[3:18] <aZz7eCh> artok, if thats too far, any suggestions on a way to inline add the resistor directly to the gpio pin without solder?
[3:19] <aZz7eCh> but its no further away than anyone else i've watched sitting their with their little bread boards ...s urely its close enough
[3:19] <ali1234> i wonder what the contact resistance of those plug blocks is
[3:19] <aZz7eCh> i can see
[3:19] <aZz7eCh> brb
[3:21] <aZz7eCh> well
[3:21] <aZz7eCh> 0
[3:21] <aZz7eCh> lol
[3:22] <aZz7eCh> 0.3ohms
[3:22] <aZz7eCh> 0.4 maybe
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[3:24] <pi0> how do i ssh to my raspberry pi via linux
[3:24] <aZz7eCh> do you know the ip of your pi ?
[3:24] <RcHaCk> turn on ssh on the pi
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[3:25] <aZz7eCh> raspi-config, orrrrr if you google you jsut need to create a file to enable it and reboot.
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[3:27] <ali1234> well all i can say is it *should* work. there is no way that 40cm of unterminated cable could over power a 1k pull up.
[3:27] <pi0> aZz7eCh: it will be usb ssh
[3:27] <pi0> will not connect to wifi
[3:28] <aZz7eCh> pi0 ohhh, sorry i only know how to connect wifi an eth ssh. stay around, someone more exp will see your Q
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[3:29] <aZz7eCh> ali1234, ... i'm dreading wondering if my pi doesn't have 3.3v left to give
[3:30] <Jigsy> Apparently I can't overclock my Pi3.
[3:30] <aZz7eCh> 5v running an octocoupler relay board, 3v3 rail added now to pull up these circuits externally, 5 lines I have pulled up to the octocoupler I think ... hmm.
[3:31] <aZz7eCh> i think all the octocouplers run as output highs... but they're not even in the equation atm...b ut hey Are plugged in...
[3:31] <pi0> i dont think it is possible
[3:32] <aZz7eCh> surely that would all come down to making sure i have a 2-3a psu tho right? which i do... so ... cant imagine power prob....
[3:32] <ali1234> pi0: you need to do lots of configuration to get ssh over usb. it is easier if you set up wifi first
[3:32] <aZz7eCh> oh lord i'm leaving out that all these have a usb wifi adapter hanging out
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[3:33] <ali1234> it could be inductive noise from the relays but wifi wouldn't affect it unless it is causing a general undevoltge condition, which would cause the power led to turn off
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[3:34] <aZz7eCh> definitely no signs of power led struggling
[3:34] <aZz7eCh> okay then. off i go ... 180ohm resistors it is :P
[3:34] <aZz7eCh> if it solves it, it solves it. just dont want dead pis in 6 months is all.
[3:35] <ali1234> 180 ohms is 18mA, that is out of spec
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[3:36] <aZz7eCh> well what about 0 ohms? i've asked a few times... what the harm in me just driving the 3v3 rail driectly into the gpio's line ?
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[3:36] <aZz7eCh> how can it hurt
[3:36] <ali1234> also a total of 72mA over four switches, tha is out of spec too
[3:36] <ali1234> actually
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[3:38] <ali1234> if you put a "0 ohm" pull up then you won't be able to reliably pull them down when the switch closes without sinking 330mA into the GPIO which will also pull the 3.3v power line for the whole pi to zero
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[3:38] <ali1234> and that will definitely cause it to crash
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[3:41] <aZz7eCh> well
[3:41] <pi0> restart network services without reboot?
[3:43] <ali1234> actually that current won't go to gpio, it will go to ground, but it will still crash the pi
[3:43] <aZz7eCh> ali1234, atm i have 500 ohm resistors in. if each circuit has 500ohm (remember they may all be on at once at any stage)
[3:43] <ali1234> 500 ohms is within spec, it is 6.6mA per gpio, about 26mA total
[3:44] <aZz7eCh> at the moment with 500ohm... its down to 2 or three false detections per min
[3:44] <aZz7eCh> thats a miracle compared to last few days
[3:44] <aZz7eCh> so i could apply some logic in the calls to double check etc...
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[3:46] <artok> or optoisolators
[3:48] <aZz7eCh> how would that help in this situation artok
[3:48] <aZz7eCh> thats what my relayboard is ... i thought
[3:51] <aZz7eCh> put in a second circtui completely for driving my buttons and switches and have them operate a relay board to control the gpios closer to the pi, like i said earlier ? :P trust me ... already been driven to consider it
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[4:07] <ball> I like optoisolators, me.
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[4:07] <ball> ...those and Darlington drivers.
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[4:18] <aZz7eCh> okay so coulnd't get any 500R's so grabbed a pack of 470's and 510's. SO.... Q, does 470 fit in as acceptable
[4:18] <aZz7eCh> @ ali1234
[4:19] <ali1234> yes
[4:19] <aZz7eCh> flapping neato. wait... does 360 ?
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[4:19] <ali1234> just about
[4:19] <aZz7eCh> okay 470 good pick then.
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[4:29] <Plasmoduck> If I want to backup my Raspbian install, can I plug the sdcard into windows and simply copy all the files and folders from the sdcard
[4:29] <Plasmoduck> Then one day paste them back onto an empty sdcard and it will work?
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[4:29] <aZz7eCh> you might want to look at making an IMAGE of the whole card
[4:30] <Plasmoduck> Good idea
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[4:30] <Plasmoduck> What is a good tool to do that on macOS Mojave?
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[4:30] <Plasmoduck> I use etcher to write the images, can I do it with that?
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[4:34] <Plasmoduck> Look what I made https://github.com/plasmoduck/raspberrypi-motd
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[5:40] <magic_ninja> Bitweasil, okay, that sounds good. What I'm looking at doing is just taking an arduino and catching the lines then piping them to a serial console via the arduino's USB.
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[6:11] <aZz7eCh> man oh man. this sure is an epic slog. so its seeming that there is drop in V from my 3v3 rail when i trigger the circuit, detected by the next causing it to go low too (the stop button) ... so vend starts, but because the low happened across more than just the one circuit, or rather, a falling edge is detected on all the circuits sharing the 3v3 rail, anyway ... so stops the vend straight after. have gotten aroudn this by removing event
[6:11] <aZz7eCh> detect for stop, after vend has been triggreed, then ... adds it back again afresh. i believe i now have a quiet, working circuit :(
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[6:14] <aZz7eCh> ive also turned the internal pullups back on for those pins too, i dont know why but doesn't seem to have any impact on the situation.
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[6:27] <pi0> i setup bt on my zero
[6:27] <pi0> using this script https://github.com/DrRowland/RPi-Bluetooth-Console/blob/master/setup.sh
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[8:18] <Habbie> aZz7eCh, good news about the 1k
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[8:25] <aZz7eCh> 1k ?
[8:25] <aZz7eCh> we're down to 470's now
[8:25] <aZz7eCh> ;)
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[8:32] <Habbie> aZz7eCh, haha ok, i just got out of bed
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[9:13] <aZz7eCh> when i run 2 timers in threads, 3 threads seem to run .. is this normal? once the timers run out, they disappear but i'm left with one thread still running
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[9:15] <aZz7eCh> disregard i'm misreading htop ..
[9:15] <aZz7eCh> its the program thread
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[14:06] <Sadale> I guess I've just made something dumb with raspberry pi :p
[14:06] <Sadale> Here it is: https://secret.sadale.net/imeig/tapCodeKeyboard.jpg
[14:07] <Sadale> A single-key USB keyboard :3
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[14:12] <BurtyB> which wears out first the finger or the button? :)
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[14:14] <Sadale> lol
[14:14] <Sadale> Button I guess :P
[14:15] <dTal> that's a pretty inefficient input scheme
[14:15] <Sadale> Indeed. But it works xD
[14:15] <dTal> morse code would be better :p
[14:16] <Sadale> meh. Too much work to learn.
[14:16] <Sadale> Anyway morse code would definitely be better if someone is trained to use it.
[14:16] <Sadale> It's faster and more efficient.
[14:16] <Sadale> Tap Code focus on ease of use over efficiency
[14:16] <dTal> I've always wondered if morse code is anywhere near optimal though
[14:17] <dTal> I'm not clear on how your scheme works actually, how do you confirm a row or column?
[14:23] <Sadale> hmm. How should I put it. Let me think...
[14:24] <Sadale> It's like this: on the first tab, it shows A. If you tap again, it changes to F, then L, then Q, then V, then it gets back to A.
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[14:24] <Sadale> If you wait for 0.5s, your row would get confirmed. Then you can tap to move to next column.
[14:25] <Sadale> For example, if you tap twice, wait for 0.5s, then tape three times, and wait for another 0.5s, you'd type "I".
[14:25] <dTal> 0.5 second confirmation and no cancel or backspace?
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[14:26] <Sadale> There's no cancel. There's backspace tho.
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[14:26] <dTal> oh, the long hold. right
[14:26] <Sadale> On the first tap of the character, if you hold it for long, it'd be a backspace.
[14:27] <dTal> this is a bad thing that you have made and you should feel bad
[14:27] <dTal> :p
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[14:27] <Sadale> lol I'd take that as compliment. xD
[14:27] <Sadale> In fact I made it mainly because of raspberry pi birthday.
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[14:28] <Sadale> There's a local meetup for raspberry pi birthday. Apparently it'd be better if I've got a raspberry pi project on hand. So I cranked out a simple project within a few days. And this keyboard is what I've come up with. :3
[14:28] <dTal> you might get some customers in the intelligence services, as a torture device
[14:29] <Sadale> lol
[14:29] <Sadale> "No meal for you until you finish typing this article using this keyboard!
[14:29] <Sadale> "
[14:30] <dTal> understand, I want to compliment you on a funny joke and a good effort on your project with a time budget
[14:30] <Sadale> dTal, I know. I'm aware of it. In fact, what you said made me laugh :D
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[14:30] <Sadale> It's just funny. xD
[14:30] <dTal> I want to. But I can't bring myself to because in making this thing you have sinned
[14:31] <Sadale> BTW, what do you make? I barely chat this channel. So I don't have much idea on the projects that you guys have worked on here. :3
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[14:32] <dTal> ducted fans for drones
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[14:33] <dTal> they don't use pis though, the pis just come in real handy around the lab :p
[14:34] <Sadale> sounds cool! :o
[14:34] <dTal> the test bench runs off a pi for instance, very handy to generate PWM and measure force and power and serve up a web interface all from the one computer
[14:34] <Sadale> Well, probably isn't a good idea to use pi because it takes time to boot. You don't want a duct fan that takes ~30s to start.
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[14:34] <Sadale> I see. I've also used pi in the previous company that I worked for.
[14:34] <Sadale> The company I worked for developed thermostats. :3
[14:34] <dTal> yes exactly, I only just started the "smart fan" project and I've gone for ESP chips for that
[14:35] <Sadale> The pis was used for running simulated cloud servers.
[14:35] <dTal> (which is a neat coincidence since we're European Sustainable Propulsion)
[14:35] <Sadale> cool ESP chips are the nice ones. They've good value. :3
[14:35] <Sadale> hah
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[14:36] <Sadale> indeed. That's neat.
[14:36] <Sadale> I don't quite like some people in the previous company I worked for, tho. One of the coworker just hated ESP stuffs and Arduino for no solid reason.
[14:37] <Sadale> Apparently the main reason that he hated it was that, it made embedded programmer sooo easy that there're a lot of "hackers" being able to work on electronic stuffs.
[14:37] <Sadale> And he's possibly jealous that "hey! Why the f do I have to learn all these baremetal stuffs? It took me forever to learn them. No fair!"
[14:38] <Sadale> I don't know. I don't have any proof that's his real reason of hating those ESP and Arduino thingies. But my hunch says so.
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[18:51] <Ad0> how does the eMMC storage show up as
[18:51] <Ad0> in RPI CM3+
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[19:12] <shiftplusone> Ad0, same as an sd card
[19:12] <Ad0> cool
[19:12] <shiftplusone> /dev/mmcblk0
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[19:43] <Ad0> thanks shiftplusone
[19:43] <shiftplusone> np
[19:43] <Ad0> is the CM3+ any different than a PI3 excluding the lack of wifi etc?
[19:44] <Ad0> if you boot up a yocto image solely tailored towards PI3
[19:44] <Ad0> should be the same right?
[19:44] <Ad0> of course, except that some interfaces are not present on the SDIO bus
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[19:46] <toastintheshell> is it the same as the b3+ or the b3?
[19:47] <toastintheshell> *3b+
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[19:51] <shiftplusone> depends on the yocto image. Does it have the appropriate .dtb files in /boot?
[19:55] <Ad0> let me check
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[19:56] <Ad0> CM3 is BCM2837B0
[19:56] <Ad0> err CM3+
[19:57] <shiftplusone> I'm just wondering if they have left bcm2710-rpi-cm3.dtb in there or if they've only shipped the required files for pi3
[19:57] <shiftplusone> if boot looks something like this https://github.com/raspberrypi/firmware/tree/master/boot and is relatively recent, it should be fine
[19:57] <Ad0> yeah I need to take a closer look
[19:57] <Ad0> seems like the CM3+ is a raspberry PI 3+
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[20:13] <Ad0> yeah it's a base PI3 image, I just wonder if the compute module, if hooked up correctly is "binary compatible" with a regular PI . I would assume yes - it's just a different form factor where you lack certain stuff
[20:14] <toastintheshell> does it have an ethernet controller?
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[20:20] <GrandPa-G> I am looking for recommendation for a inexpensive RFID reader for the pi. It would be used for close proxmity, someone swipes their badge to get a reading. Suggestions?
[20:20] <pi0> hi all!
[20:20] <toastintheshell> hi
[20:21] <pi0> need some serious help! i would like to bt pair my pi0w w/ my desktop ubuntu
[20:21] <pi0> then ssh over bt
[20:21] <pi0> not sure how to begin
[20:21] <shiftplusone> I have never seen anybody do that.
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[20:22] <shiftplusone> It's very likely that it's up to you to figure out on your own if it's even possible.
[20:23] <toastintheshell> pi0: do you have bluez-tools bluez-utils and blueman installed?
[20:23] <pi0> on desktop or pi?
[20:24] <toastintheshell> https://www.raspberrypi.org/forums/viewtopic.php?t=36889
[20:24] <toastintheshell> on your pi
[20:27] <toastintheshell> looks like that guy got it working
[20:27] <toastintheshell> does that seem like something that would work for you?
[20:29] <pi0> yes exactly that
[20:29] <toastintheshell> huzzah!
[20:30] <pi0> shoot
[20:30] <pi0> i have no idea how to do it though
[20:30] <pi0> i was hoping he made a tutorial or something
[20:31] <leftyfb> GrandPa-G: NXP PN532
[20:31] <leftyfb> pi0: let me ask you something. Is this a Pi zero?
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[20:32] <toastintheshell> if you can get a bt connection with an ip address then it should work, is there like a hostapd bt equivalent?
[20:32] <leftyfb> ip over BT is ugly and probably not going to be all that reliable
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[20:34] <toastintheshell> but it does allow a pi0 2 simultaneous network interfaces out of the box with nothing but power atached, which could come in really handy for me
[20:34] <leftyfb> toastintheshell: the point I'm getting at, there's another way to accomplish the same goal
[20:35] <leftyfb> pi0: Is this a Pi zero?
[20:35] <toastintheshell> i'd imagine pi0 knows the pi0 has wifi built in
[20:36] <leftyfb> yup, not referring to that
[20:36] <toastintheshell> oh, do tell
[20:36] <leftyfb> usb ethernet gadget mode
[20:37] <GrandPa-G> leftyfb:any opinion on this https://www.amazon.com/SunFounder-Mifare-Antenna-Proximity-Arduino/dp/B00E0ODLWQ/ref=sr_1_3?keywords=rc522+rfid+reader&linkCode=ll2&linkId=5c768527322a93c3f1ae3883817b8d14&qid=1551468454&s=electronics&sr=1-3&tag=pimylifeup-20
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[20:37] <leftyfb> GrandPa-G: never used it
[20:37] <toastintheshell> yeah, definitely a possible option, I figure he's looking for a wireless solution though
[20:37] <Ad0> toastintheshell, no
[20:37] <toastintheshell> *he or she
[20:37] <Ad0> it doesn't have an ethernet controller
[20:37] <Ad0> the CM3/CM3+
[20:37] <Ad0> that goes thru USB actually :)
[20:37] <toastintheshell> Ad0: aw
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[20:37] <leftyfb> toastintheshell: https://www.adafruit.com/product/3945
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[20:38] <leftyfb> toastintheshell: maybe, I'm trying to determine that
[20:38] <Ad0> you know, on the PI3 etc, the ethernet controller is actually an USB device
[20:38] <leftyfb> pi0: you know, if you ask for help, you should be responsive to people who respond to you
[20:38] <Ad0> https://www.element14.com/community/community/raspberry-pi/blog/2017/01/16/raspberry-pi-3-block-diagram
[20:38] <toastintheshell> Ad0: I didn't know that, so it has no eth controller either?
[20:40] <pi0> yes
[20:40] <pi0> sorry i was going back and forth
[20:40] <pi0> reading that page
[20:40] <pi0> ttying to make sense of pan bt
[20:40] <pi0> :/
[20:40] <leftyfb> pi0: ok. Does this need to be wireless or could you do something like: https://www.adafruit.com/product/3945
[20:40] <pi0> pi zero
[20:40] <toastintheshell> so I've been wondering about wiring ethernet directly into a pi, like a zero or compute module, is there any way to do that without like buying a usb to ethernet adapter?
[20:40] <pi0> or pi3b+
[20:41] <pi0> oh nice stem
[20:41] <leftyfb> pi0: the solution I'm suggesting will not work on anything but the pi0/w
[20:42] <pi0> i would like to bt connect to both devices
[20:43] <pi0> that stem is same as otg usb
[20:43] <pi0> right
[20:43] <pi0> i mean similar concept
[20:43] <toastintheshell> so wireless is a must, but wifi is a must not pi0?
[20:43] <pi0> bt is a must
[20:43] <pi0> wifi is not possible
[20:43] <pi0> since some places i go will not have wifi
[20:43] <toastintheshell> so why not wifi in the first place?
[20:43] <pi0> i would like to sync them together but some place might not have wifi
[20:44] <toastintheshell> but will have bt?
[20:44] <pi0> yes because my laptop supports bt
[20:44] <pi0> and so does the pi
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[20:45] <pi0> does it still seem possible?
[20:46] <pi0> if ssh over usb was as simple as mac and windows for ubuntu
[20:46] <pi0> i would do that
[20:46] <leftyfb> pi0: possible, yes. Easy, probably not
[20:46] <pi0> but its not
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[20:46] <toastintheshell> I'm sure it is, leftyb thinks it will be spotty networking
[20:46] <Ad0> toastintheshell, it has a controller behind USB device :)
[20:46] <leftyfb> pi0: there's no such thing as "ssh over usb". There's ssh'ing over ip/network via a usb network adapter
[20:46] <Ad0> but yeah it's like an USB eth soldered to the board
[20:47] <pi0> which i tried that tutorial
[20:47] <pi0> and it did not work
[20:47] <toastintheshell> leftyfb: if ssh is over networking and networking is over usb, how is that not ssh over usb?
[20:47] <pi0> when i did it on my system with ubuntu
[20:48] <shiftplusone> Why does it have to be wireless?
[20:48] <toastintheshell> so pi0 if you could get the usb ethernet gadget working would that be a workable solution?
[20:49] <pi0> yes that would
[20:49] <pi0> but, howevery syncing ubuntu and pi
[20:49] <pi0> via usb ethernet
[20:50] <Ad0> toastintheshell, yes you could in theory solder an USB ethernet chip + connector on the zero
[20:50] <pi0> i cant find any thing on google, i did specific title: changes dates
[20:50] <Ad0> but that means you have to rework it though
[20:50] <Ad0> tap into the USB traces
[20:50] <pi0> oh
[20:50] <pi0> wait
[20:50] <toastintheshell> Ad0: so then here's my ideal setup that I can't seem to figure out how to find an answer on anywhere: solder wires into a pi that have an rj45 on the other side, plug it into something like a switch or whatever
[20:51] <pi0> an actual usb ethernet adapter
[20:51] <pi0> ?
[20:51] <Ad0> I did not see your original question :)
[20:51] <shiftplusone> Ad0, you're a bit off there
[20:51] <Ad0> the easy solution is to buy USB ethernet adapters
[20:51] <pi0> https://www.thepolyglotdeveloper.com/2016/06/connect-raspberry-pi-zero-usb-cable-ssh/
[20:51] <pi0> this is what i mean
[20:52] <pi0> but to work on ubuntu not mac
[20:52] <shiftplusone> actually, yes a usb ethernet adaptor will just work out of the box and is the simplest solution. But, gbaman's tutorial will get you the same setup using just a usb cable with no additional hardware.
[20:53] <Ad0> I read the original question now
[20:53] <Ad0> I happened to discuss ethernet as well
[20:53] <Ad0> sorry
[20:53] <shiftplusone> ah, wires crossed. Fair enough
[20:53] <Ad0> :)
[20:53] <Ad0> yes isn't there UART over BT?
[20:53] <toastintheshell> sorry my questions are too similar to pi0's and derailing the discussion maybe
[20:53] <Ad0> haha
[20:54] <shiftplusone> Past experience tells me that anything over BT is going to end in hair loss.
[20:54] <shiftplusone> it's never worth the hassle
[20:54] <toastintheshell> shiftplusone: you should see my hairline rn
[20:54] <Ad0> I gave up and skinned my head
[20:54] <shiftplusone> lol, same
[20:54] <toastintheshell> just trying to get my speaker paired to a pi
[20:55] <pi0> uart over bt possible?
[20:55] <pi0> that might be eaiser
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[20:55] <toastintheshell> occasionally works, occasionally says it's working but demonstrably not, occasionally flat out doesn't seem to be trying
[20:56] <shiftplusone> sounds like bluetooth alright
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[20:56] <pi0> gbaman tutorial?
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[20:57] <shiftplusone> pi0, I linked this yesterday https://gist.github.com/gbaman/975e2db164b3ca2b51ae11e45e8fd40a
[20:57] <shiftplusone> short, to the point, works.
[20:58] <pi0> yup that does not work with ubuntu
[20:58] <shiftplusone> works for me on ubuntu
[20:58] <toastintheshell> so I was thinking about connecting like pizero to pizero over like ~fully-software ethernet over maybe wires soldered directly into usb, that kind of thing
[20:59] <pi0> how did you setup the network part
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[21:01] <pi0> i used stretch lite, modified cmdline.txt config.txt and toucu ssh
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[21:01] <pi0> even tossed wpa_supplicant.conf
[21:01] <pi0> it as not until it connected via wifi
[21:01] <shiftplusone> pi0, two approaches. 1) the tutorial uses something called ipv6 link-local 2) in ipv4 settings of the (new) network connection, under the ipv4 tab, select 'shared to other computers' option.
[21:01] <shiftplusone> anyway... time to kick off a chromium build and go home
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[21:01] <pi0> that iwas able to ssh using pi@raspberrypi.local
[21:01] <shiftplusone> 'night
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[21:02] <pi0> let me give that a shot
[21:02] <toastintheshell> goodbye shiftplusone
[21:02] <pi0> gnite shiftplusone
[21:02] <pi0> oh wait
[21:02] <pi0> ip4
[21:03] <pi0> shared
[21:04] <pi0> avahi-resolve-host-name raspberrypi.local recognized it
[21:04] <toastintheshell> got'im
[21:04] <toastintheshell> ssh?
[21:05] <pi0> shoot i am in network but i see vpn and network proxy
[21:06] <pi0> probably not what he was saying :/
[21:06] <pi0> toastintheshell: sorry what was that?
[21:06] <toastintheshell> about soldering stuff?
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[21:07] <toastintheshell> probably not what you need
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[21:07] <toastintheshell> so do the pi and the computer both thave ip addresses now?
[21:08] <toastintheshell> over usb?
[21:08] <pi0> let me double check
[21:08] <pi0> i think the ssh file was removed from the boot dir
[21:09] <pi0> remounting the sd to double check cmdline and config and ssh file are there
[21:09] <pi0> one sec
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[21:10] <pi0> all looks good
[21:10] <pi0> plugging it back in
[21:10] <pi0> lets see
[21:11] <toastintheshell> so you had networking but no ssh?
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[21:12] <pi0> oh i see what happened
[21:12] <pi0> i was ssh but it did it via wifi
[21:12] <pi0> removing wifi wpa_supplicant settings
[21:12] <pi0> one sec
[21:12] <pi0> then i will reboot it
[21:13] <pi0> rebooted now i will see if i can truly ssh via usb
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[21:14] <pi0> ok i see wired connection on network
[21:14] <toastintheshell> niiiice
[21:14] <pi0> named it "pi"
[21:14] <pi0> ipv6 link-local only
[21:14] <toastintheshell> ssh?
[21:14] <pi0> i have not ssh just yet
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[21:15] <pi0> ipv4
[21:15] <pi0> do i put any settings in there
[21:15] <toastintheshell> can you not ssh over the ip6?
[21:16] <pi0> ssh: Could not resolve hostname raspberrypi.local: Name or service not known
[21:16] <toastintheshell> I'd imagine you should just be able to ssh user@ip::v6:et:ce:te:ra
[21:16] <pi0> oh
[21:16] <pi0> let me try that
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[21:17] <pi0> avahi-resolve-host-name raspberrypi.local
[21:17] <toastintheshell> never tried ssh over v6 that I can recall though
[21:17] <pi0> Failed to resolve host name 'raspberrypi.local': Timeout reached
[21:17] <toastintheshell> did you try ipv6 or ipv4 address in place of raspberrypi.local?
[21:17] <shauno> it should work over v6 by default (this is my normal method)
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[21:18] <Ad0> which wifi chipset is on Pi3 B+
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[21:18] <Ad0> CYW43455
[21:19] <pi0> darnits
[21:19] <pi0> ipv6
[21:19] <pi0> under method within wired network
[21:19] <pi0> i selected link-local only
[21:19] <pi0> ipv4 under method, automatic (DHCP)
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[21:21] <pi0> unplugged it
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[21:21] <pi0> re plugged
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[21:23] <pi0> getting a blinky
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[21:23] <pi0> on ssh
[21:23] <pi0> something is happenging lol but i have not been prompted for pw
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[21:27] <pi0> finally!
[21:27] <toastintheshell> hip hip...
[21:27] <pi0> ssh -6 pi@ipv6%adapter
[21:27] <pi0> why adapter name needed?
[21:28] <toastintheshell> interesting, maybe you don't have a route setting that's needed?
[21:28] <pi0> the mac address keeps changing
[21:29] <pi0> for ipv6
[21:29] <toastintheshell> weird
[21:29] <toastintheshell> do the subnet settings on both devices match for that network?
[21:30] <pi0> i am ssh'd into the pi0w now
[21:31] <pi0> what should the subnet be?
[21:31] <toastintheshell> oh wait you're on v6, I don't think that should matter
[21:32] <toastintheshell> I really need to get up to date on my ipv6 knowledge, wasn't really very important when I was in IT
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[21:34] <pi0> hmm let me see if can enable wifi again
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[21:37] <pi0> hmm usb times out
[21:37] <pi0> connection does not seem to hold
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[21:38] <pi0> 3rd option setup a AP
[21:38] <pi0> and have pi connect to it
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[21:38] <toastintheshell> hostapd
[21:39] <toastintheshell> so I was actually thinking about setting up a pi as a usb wifi dongle
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[21:41] <toastintheshell> wait, so pi0 can you still ping the v6 address after connection times out?
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[21:42] <toastintheshell> the mac address changing issue might be related
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[21:44] <NGC3982> oh hai
[21:44] <pi0> yes its crazy
[21:44] <pi0> i plug in the pi
[21:45] <pi0> recognizes it for about a min, i need to quickly ifconfig, and avahi-resolve-host-name raspberrypi.local
[21:45] <pi0> and hope i have both items to ssh before it disconnects
[21:45] <toastintheshell> pi0: so you still have ip6 networking, but the ssh session kills itself after a bit, and also the mac address still keeps changing
[21:46] <pi0> yes
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[21:48] <pi0> that's why i wanted to do this via bt
[21:48] <pi0> uart bt
[21:48] <toastintheshell> pi0: try a apt-get update/upgrade and try again?
[21:48] <toastintheshell> I mean seems like fixing otg would be easier to fix than figuring out bt networking to me
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[21:51] <toastintheshell> pi0: try setting the pi0's mac address manually
[21:51] <pi0> let me try
[21:51] <pi0> how do i set that up? lol sorry i am also new to linux
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[21:53] <toastintheshell> sudo ifconfig devicename0 down ; sudo ifconfig devicename0 hw ma:ca:dd:re:ss ; sudo ifconfig devicename0 up
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[21:57] <pi0> ok i am about to reboot it
[21:57] <pi0> apt upate and upgrade
[21:57] <toastintheshell> devicename0 changed to whatever your changing device is called such as eth0 or en0 or wlx5543265243534543 or whatever the stupid newschool device names are called these days
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[21:58] <therion23> could someone explain to me real quick what makes the Zero 1.3 and Zero W incompatible when it comes to cases?
[21:58] <toastintheshell> is that a systemd thing that they felt the need to change device names to annoyingly long complicated impossible to remember names?
[21:58] <therion23> cos i really cannot see it ..
[21:58] <toastintheshell> therion23: they're not?
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[21:59] <toastintheshell> hold on, let me check
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[22:00] <therion23> toastintheshell: Pimoroni make two different Pibow cases for those two models
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[22:02] <therion23> the Elpida is aligned a little differently but the Pibow doesn't have heatsink gaps anyway
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[22:12] <toastintheshell> ugh, these adafruit cases are tricky to get the pi in and out of, kinda feel like it's going to damage the board if I try to pull one out
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[22:14] <therion23> the Pibow for Zero W requires you to take it apart in order to change SD card
[22:15] <therion23> nobody won a design award that day for sure
[22:17] <toastintheshell> the official raspi case that came with a pizerow requires taking it out as well
[22:17] <toastintheshell> if I recall, don't have it with me
[22:17] <toastintheshell> or maybe just to take off the top of the case, which I guess wouldn't be so bad
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[22:18] <toastintheshell> still, seems better to have a slot to me
[22:18] <toastintheshell> pi0 did upgrade or manual mac make any difference?
[22:19] <pi0> well i am on the pi ssh
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[22:20] <toastintheshell> mac address still changing?
[22:20] <pi0> i need to change this one right usb0
[22:20] <Plasmoduck> Hi toastintheshell
[22:20] <toastintheshell> pi0 I think so
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[22:23] <pi0> is there a place in interfaces
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[22:31] <toastintheshell> pi0: come again?
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[22:33] <pi0> nothing seems to work
[22:33] <pi0> and when it connects to wifi
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[22:33] <pi0> i cant find the ipv6
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[22:42] <pi0> brb i need a little break from this
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