#raspberrypi IRC Log

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IRC Log for 2019-03-03

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[0:43] <_unreal_> shhhhh
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[4:17] <toastintheshell> confirmed that comitup is super convenient
[4:18] <toastintheshell> works like a charm, the image is pretty recent
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[5:36] <zl4ben_> Hey all
[5:43] <zl4ben_> Im stuck trying to work out how to stop the screen from going black on a pi
[5:43] <zl4ben_> anyone got any help?
[5:43] <zl4ben_> /ideas?
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[6:10] <amigojapan> zl4ben_: no idea, but when does it go black?
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[6:10] <zl4ben_> every 10-15 minutes?
[6:10] <amigojapan> zl4ben_: sounds like the screen saver
[6:12] <zl4ben_> yeah
[6:12] <zl4ben_> how do I turn that off?
[6:13] <amigojapan> zl4ben_: https://raspberrypi.stackexchange.com/questions/752/how-do-i-prevent-the-screen-from-going-blank
[6:14] <amigojapan> hmmm, those instructions seem to be pre-PIXEL
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[6:15] <zl4ben_> ill try running that command that they said didnt work
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[6:15] <amigojapan> zl4ben_: you mean hte one from the answer?
[6:16] <amigojapan> zl4ben_: I would runt he one from the top answer
[6:17] <amigojapan> zl4ben_: apt-get install x11-xserver-utils
[6:17] <amigojapan> zl4ben_: Now open up your ~/.xinitrc file (if you don't have one then create it) and enter this:
[6:17] <amigojapan> and the rest from that
[6:17] <toastintheshell> looks like you can set it in cmdline.txt
[6:17] <zl4ben_> cheers ill try that
[6:18] <toastintheshell> add consoleblank=0
[6:19] <toastintheshell> or set it to the number of seconds you want
[6:19] <amigojapan> k
[6:19] <zl4ben_> where is cmdline.txt?
[6:19] <toastintheshell> e.g. 3600 would be an hour
[6:19] <toastintheshell> /boot/cmdline.txt
[6:20] <toastintheshell> this is assuming you're using some raspbian variant
[6:20] <toastintheshell> it will probably be something else on some other distro
[6:20] <zl4ben_> I am indeed yes
[6:21] <toastintheshell> amigojapan: I think the cmdline.txt parameter is pre-xorg, seems to affect no-x sessions as well
[6:22] <amigojapan> toastintheshell: what do you mean by pre-xorg? xorg, or its other older varians have existed on debien from before the raspberry pi
[6:23] <toastintheshell> I mean it affects even console only sessions
[6:23] <amigojapan> ah ok toastintheshell , but X may have a screen saver too no?
[6:23] <toastintheshell> pre as in per session, not pre as in per the history of unix lol
[6:24] <amigojapan> alright, got you
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[6:24] <toastintheshell> amigojapan: yeah, xscreensaver is pretty sweet, much cooler than a black screen
[6:24] <amigojapan> yup
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[6:32] <_unreal_> just got me 2 racoons
[6:34] <Sadale> _unreal_, are you the same unreal in ##progrmming back then?
[6:34] <Sadale> or you're another person?
[6:34] <_unreal_> ?
[6:34] <_unreal_> programming?
[6:34] <_unreal_> #programming
[6:34] <_unreal_> crap
[6:36] <_unreal_> Sadale, ohhhh wtfff......
[6:36] <Sadale> _unreal_, ##programming the channel.
[6:36] <Sadale> _unreal_, I knew a user named "unreal" there like a few years ago. I wonder if you're him.
[6:36] <_unreal_> ya I just joined the channel
[6:37] <Sadale> _unreal_, I meant, are you him?
[6:37] <_unreal_> and I only see ME?
[6:37] <toastintheshell> THE _unreal_ ?
[6:37] <Sadale> _unreal_, That "unreal" user was also a freenode admin.
[6:37] <_unreal_> um ya I'm no admin
[6:38] <Sadale> I don't know if this _unreal_ is the unreal that I knew of. This _unreal_ has a couple of underscores.
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[6:38] <toastintheshell> he's an imposter!
[6:38] <Sadale> I see. You're probably another _unreal_ then.
[6:38] <_unreal_> I have had this nic since 96
[6:38] <Sadale> toastintheshell, probably not. It just came into the case that he wanted to have the nick unreal, just to find out that it was already taken by the previous "unreal".
[6:38] <Sadale> oh
[6:38] <_unreal_> ever sense I heard of the game unreal comming out way back when
[6:39] <_unreal_> only way someone else has this nic is if they have hacked my account
[6:39] <_unreal_> good luck I rotate passwords often AND email addresses
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[6:41] <toastintheshell> well you can never be too sure
[6:41] <_unreal_> true that
[6:41] <toastintheshell> how do you know you're the real _unreal_ ?
[6:41] <_unreal_> I could tell you had but its truly unreal
[6:41] <toastintheshell> you could be an unreal _unreal_
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[6:42] <_unreal_> well one of the racoons I took out tonight was unreal... stupid thing was up in the tree and just kept taking it..... stayed still while I'm wacking it with pellets
[6:43] <_unreal_> finally I got a good SHOT that took it out..... nothing like holding a flash light and aiming
[6:43] <_unreal_> in the dark
[6:43] <_unreal_> damn raccoons rip up the screen around the pool
[6:43] <toastintheshell> there are known reals and there are known unreals, and then there are unknown reals and unknwon unreals...
[6:43] <_unreal_> again I livein south florida
[6:43] <toastintheshell> -donald rumsfeld
[6:44] <toastintheshell> those things get huge
[6:44] <_unreal_> in florida not really
[6:44] <toastintheshell> I can't believe those medium-sized-bear-sized things climb trees
[6:44] <_unreal_> up north however they get husge
[6:44] <_unreal_> huge
[6:45] <toastintheshell> around here they seem to routinely get to the size of maybe a husky
[6:45] <_unreal_> not supprised
[6:45] <_unreal_> florida its always worm and always plenty of food so they dont need to bulk up
[6:45] <_unreal_> no hybernation
[6:45] <toastintheshell> in the city too, you'll just be walking down the street and some weird looking dude's staring at you from up in a tree out of the corner of your eye
[6:46] <toastintheshell> then you look at it and it's not a dude, it's a monstrous mama raccoon, and she's out for blood by the look in her eye
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[7:32] <toastintheshell> jeeze why is network manager so crap
[7:34] <toastintheshell> never seems to do what I expect, even when I expect it to do something bizarre I become used to it doing it does something else
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[8:09] <amigojapan> toastintheshell: can I ask what part of the world you are in? you seem to be online longer than others
[8:09] <amigojapan> toastintheshell: I am in Japan
[8:12] <Sadale> amigojapan, hi :P
[8:12] <amigojapan> oh hi Sadale :P
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[8:17] <toastintheshell> amigojapan: boston, but i drink too much caffeine
[8:18] <amigojapan> ah ok toastintheshell , I once went to boston, visited teh computer museum and was thinking of maybe attenting MIT, but I did not
[8:18] <amigojapan> insted of MIT I attended NEIT
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[8:20] <toastintheshell> rhode island?
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[8:21] <amigojapan> toastintheshell: yeah, the main school is in rhode island, but they used to have a Florida branch, which does not exist anymore
[8:21] <amigojapan> I went in FLorida
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[8:22] <toastintheshell> they got a new england in florida now? what'll they think of next?
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[8:23] <amigojapan> toastintheshell: did did in the 90s and 2000s, but unfortunately they shut that branch down
[8:24] <amigojapan> they did*
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[8:28] <toastintheshell> oy, is there anything like network-manager, but that isn't network manager for cli?
[8:31] <amigojapan> no idea
[8:31] <toastintheshell> maybe I'm doing something wrong but I'm pretty decent with network stuff, I did pretty good in a ccna prep class in college
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[8:32] <amigojapan> what are you tyring to do?
[8:32] <toastintheshell> doesn't seem like a network config issue though, seems like nm is just not holding configs
[8:34] <toastintheshell> I'm trying to make a wifi hotspot that's currently running just switch to a wpa-psk config
[8:34] <toastintheshell> on a pizerow
[8:34] <amigojapan> ah
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[8:34] <amigojapan> sorry I have not made a wifi hotspot yet
[8:35] <toastintheshell> it's pretty annoying in nm
[8:36] <toastintheshell> hostapd makes it easier
[8:37] <amigojapan> I see
[8:38] <toastintheshell> bunch of other tools make it super easy
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[8:41] <toastintheshell> my ipfire firewall-router pi2 has a pretty straightforward setup (although you need a fairly good grasp of network config stuff), ubuntu just has a nice little gui hotspot/interenet sharing option you can switch on, then there's a bunch of images I've found that have a hotspot autostart on bootup (with varying results)
[8:42] <amigojapan> toastintheshell: on android and iOS it is as easy as flicking a switcch
[8:44] <toastintheshell> that's what ubuntu's gui version was iirc
[8:45] <amigojapan> ok
[8:47] <toastintheshell> been a while though, not sure if it's still so easy
[8:47] <toastintheshell> but I don't ususally run a standard desktop, especially on an rpi
[8:48] <amigojapan> you mean you dont run X?
[8:49] <toastintheshell> well I'm usually running i3, or sometimes a super basic openbox desktop
[8:49] <amigojapan> ah you are talking about teh dektop manager, I see
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[8:52] <toastintheshell> amigojapan: yeah, so xorg is the engine that creates the framework for all the gui apps
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[8:56] <toastintheshell> and a window manager is just a basic program that uses x to generate windows and decide where to put them. WMs like i3 and dwm are tiling, so they'll just open a full screen window (usually minus a status bar or something on one or more edges), and if you open a new window it splits in half, or you can move to a new workspace and start over, etc.
[8:57] <toastintheshell> i3 without a lot of extra goodies is super lightweight, so it doesn't drain nearly as many resources as a full blown desktop interface
[8:59] <amigojapan> toastintheshell: I am aware of all of this
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[9:00] <amigojapan> toastintheshell: you can also kill your window manager and swithc to another one while X is running
[9:01] <amigojapan> they are just like any other program
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[9:02] <toastintheshell> yeah
[9:03] <toastintheshell> one cool thing I've seen but haven't tried yet is running i3 inside of xfce4, so it's all the same gui interface, except when you open a window it's handled by i3, so it tiles everything
[9:04] <amigojapan> neat
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[9:07] <amigojapan> toastintheshell: I have been using Linux sisnce the 90s
[9:08] <toastintheshell> amigojapan: well I tried linux for the first time probably around 97 I think
[9:08] <toastintheshell> had my windows 95 computer dualbooting with redhat
[9:08] <amigojapan> I cant remember the year I first tried it
[9:09] <amigojapan> yeah redhat was my first too
[9:09] <amigojapan> redhat then suse then ubuntu, then debian then raspbian
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[9:10] <toastintheshell> then I always wanted to but never got around to doing much with it till about 2008 or so I think
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[9:10] <amigojapan> toastintheshell: in the 90s version of redhat, there was no repository yet, you needed to download RPMs from random websites
[9:11] <toastintheshell> oh yeah, no yum back then
[9:11] <amigojapan> right
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[9:15] <toastintheshell> amigojapan: so are you japanese or american or other?
[9:15] <toastintheshell> did you just come to the US for school?
[9:16] <amigojapan> toastintheshell: in NEIT we had a sun workstation, workign as classroom server, and the school was planning on buying the C compiler for it, but sun wanted a 1000 liseince fee for it, and I foudn where I could isntallf GCC back then on sun
[9:16] <amigojapan> toastintheshell: I am Mexican, but I have lived in Japan for 16 years
[9:17] <toastintheshell> lol, I remember I was so excited to get a hold of borland c++, I think it was like 25 3.5inch floppies
[9:17] <amigojapan> :)
[9:17] <amigojapan> toastintheshell: I had used the dos version of DJGPP before that
[9:18] <toastintheshell> aaah, hence amigo-japan
[9:18] <amigojapan> yup
[9:19] <toastintheshell> so what distro do you run usually now?
[9:20] <amigojapan> toastintheshell: I am usually using lubuntu, especially on the cram school computers, but i would like to run PIXEL on them instead of LXDE
[9:21] <amigojapan> toastintheshell: I installed lubuntu on all hte cram school computers
[9:22] <toastintheshell> oh yeah we discussed that, I think you're probably good to go with that, it really seems just to be normal debian with the pixel desktop
[9:23] <amigojapan> toastintheshell: except it does not have an “install” option, it is only live USB
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[9:26] <amigojapan> I wonder if I can use dd to install the ISO directly to the HDDs
[9:27] <toastintheshell> https://wwww.raspberrypi.org/downloads/raspberry-pi-desktop/
[9:27] <amigojapan> right, that is what I am talking about
[9:27] <toastintheshell> you can install it from the live usb
[9:28] <amigojapan> ah ok
[9:28] <toastintheshell> as far as I understand
[9:28] <toastintheshell> couldn't hurt to put it on a drive and check it out
[9:29] <amigojapan> right
[9:29] <amigojapan> hmmm weird, I am getting “wwww.raspberrypi.org’s server IP address could not be found.”
[9:31] <toastintheshell> weird, I might have typed it wrong
[9:31] <toastintheshell> just search for x86 raspbian
[9:32] <amigojapan> https://www.raspberrypi.org/downloads/raspberry-pi-desktop/
[9:32] <toastintheshell> oh I typed too many ws
[9:33] <amigojapan> ah right
[9:33] <amigojapan> that is why I never type stuff, I always copy and paste
[9:33] <toastintheshell> lol, yeah I would if I could
[9:36] <amigojapan> yeah toastintheshell , this should be good for my cram school
[9:36] <amigojapan> it will be a chore installing it on all the systems
[9:38] <toastintheshell> well make sure you test it pretty thoroughly first, do all the updates, try out different programs to confirm everything's working
[9:38] <toastintheshell> what's a cram school?
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[9:40] <amigojapan> toastintheshell: a cram school is a kindof after school school thing that is very popular in Asia
[9:40] <amigojapan> toastintheshell: I etach programming to some kids there
[9:40] <amigojapan> teach*
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[9:41] <toastintheshell> oh that's cool, what language?
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[9:42] <amigojapan> toastintheshell: I start with programming games such a s lightboot and blockly games, eventualy work up to scratch(or a scratch clone I made) and then to 3dpl(which I made too) and then python and C
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[9:43] <toastintheshell> wow you wrote a scratch clone?
[9:43] <toastintheshell> what for?
[9:43] <amigojapan> toastintheshell: this is the versionw hich uses only web apps http://amigojapan.github.io/amigojapans_programming_curriculum.html
[9:44] <amigojapan> toastintheshell: my scratch clone has many thinsg scratch does not have, like a terminal window and tests for coding form blocks to code, anad can convert blocks to code too
[9:45] <amigojapan> toastintheshell: this is my scratch clone with space invaders, hit run to run the program https://amigojapan.github.io/s-found/s-found.html?LoadFromUrl=https://amigojapan.github.io/s-found/projects/space_invaders/space-invaders_bg4.s-found
[9:46] <toastintheshell> aw too bad I don't have flash
[9:46] <amigojapan> toastintheshell: up is fire
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[9:47] <amigojapan> toastintheshell: it does not need flash, that is one of hte good things about my clone
[9:47] <amigojapan> toastintheshell: why did you assume it needed flash?
[9:50] <amigojapan> toastintheshell: this is an example that shows the CLI capabilities which do not exist in scratch https://amigojapan.github.io/s-found/s-found.html?LoadFromUrl=https://amigojapan.github.io/s-found/projects/terminal_examples/terminal_example2.s-found
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[9:51] <amigojapan> toastintheshell: I also made a version that runs like a stand alone executable on RPI
[9:51] <amigojapan> toastintheshell: it can controll teh GPIO too
[9:51] <toastintheshell> oh that's cool man
[9:51] <amigojapan> thanks
[9:52] <toastintheshell> I thought it was flash because umatrix didn't like it lol
[9:52] <amigojapan> oh
[9:52] <amigojapan> no, it is html5
[9:55] <toastintheshell> that's cool\
[9:55] <toastintheshell> did you modify the original scratch code?
[9:55] <amigojapan> no
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[9:55] <amigojapan> I made everything from scratch, I mean by myself
[9:56] <toastintheshell> lol
[9:56] <toastintheshell> you should port it to scratch
[9:56] <amigojapan> what do you mean?
[9:56] <toastintheshell> like pypy
[9:56] <amigojapan> oh, scratch is not capable of it
[9:56] <toastintheshell> supposedly python gets faster when you implement it in python
[9:58] <toastintheshell> so I always wondered why they don't just port pypy to pypy and make it like 16 times faster lol
[9:58] <amigojapan> :)
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[9:59] <toastintheshell> so scratch is open source I believe, why didn't you just improve on the original?
[9:59] <amigojapan> toastintheshell: it is hard to understand other people’s code
[10:00] <toastintheshell> lol, so you figured it'd be easier to start from the bottom up?
[10:01] <amigojapan> toastintheshell: also my system uses setup and loop functions like arduino, not event drievn like scratch
[10:01] <toastintheshell> awesome
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[10:01] <amigojapan> toastintheshell: I used blockly, which is google’s library for making block programs, so I did not start form the very bottom
[10:02] <amigojapan> toastintheshell: and I used phaser as the sprite angine
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[10:02] <amigojapan> engine
[10:02] <toastintheshell> I always wanted to get good at programming
[10:03] <amigojapan> toastintheshell: but honestly I put mroe work into 3dpl
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[10:03] <amigojapan> toastintheshell: this http://amigojapan.github.io/3dpl/
[10:04] <toastintheshell> I'm good enough with python to do all the basics
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[10:06] <toastintheshell> wow that looks awesome
[10:07] <toastintheshell> how long do these projects of yours take to code?
[10:08] <amigojapan> toastintheshell: like 10 eyars
[10:09] <amigojapan> years
[10:09] <toastintheshell> damn
[10:09] <toastintheshell> that is some cool stuff, does 3dpl run on linux?
[10:10] <amigojapan> toastintheshell: I am working on a new peoject which displays florcharts which you can actually execute like a debugger setp by step too
[10:10] <toastintheshell> oh it says right there
[10:10] <amigojapan> yeah it runs on Linux, well, only on ubuntu cause unity only supported Ubuntu in the version I used, it may run on other ubuntu derivants
[10:10] <toastintheshell> ubuntu/mint but not so much on some others
[10:11] <toastintheshell> doubt there's an arm port though
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[10:11] <amigojapan> no, there is no arm port yet
[10:12] <amigojapan> toastintheshell: this is a game I made in 3dpl https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ibqxfsPeRlw&feature=youtu.be
[10:14] <amigojapan> toastintheshell: it intentionally looks 8 bit
[10:15] <toastintheshell> yeah it has that minecraft style to it, pretty sweet
[10:16] <amigojapan> thanks, yeah, everything made in 3dpl pretty much has minecraft style
[10:16] <toastintheshell> so do you use rpis in your class?
[10:17] <amigojapan> toastintheshell: no, we use very very old netbooks, which I can buy cheaper than RPIs used in Japan
[10:17] <toastintheshell> how much ar pis there
[10:17] <amigojapan> about 40USD
[10:17] <amigojapan> last time i checked
[10:18] <toastintheshell> damn that's a cheap netbook
[10:18] <amigojapan> toastintheshell: but I can get a netbook with 2GB of ram for about 20 USD
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[10:18] <toastintheshell> lol, that's cool
[10:18] <amigojapan> yup
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[10:20] <amigojapan> toastintheshell: and it includes a screen ofcourse, which I would need if I used PIs
[10:20] <toastintheshell> true
[10:20] <toastintheshell> ideally you'd want a case, keyboard/mouse
[10:21] <toastintheshell> although the gpio pins could be real engaging to teach programming with
[10:21] <amigojapan> toastintheshell: I have had one student buy an RPI for his home, cuase he wanted to set up a permement minecraft server
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[10:22] <amigojapan> toastintheshell: I preffer arduino for GPIO
[10:22] <amigojapan> toastintheshell: I can make an arduino on a bread board for only 1 or 2 USD
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[10:23] <toastintheshell> is processing just a subset of c++? I was never clear on that
[10:23] <amigojapan> toastintheshell: also, arduino includes a DAC so it has several analogue pins
[10:23] <amigojapan> yeah, it is a subset of C++
[10:24] <toastintheshell> basically just c++ with the arduino libraries preloaded right?
[10:24] <amigojapan> toastintheshell: that way when the students burn an arduino it is not a big loss
[10:24] <toastintheshell> lol, yeah
[10:24] <amigojapan> toastintheshell: I am not sure what, but there are some C++ features you cant use in hte arudino IDE
[10:25] <amigojapan> toastintheshell: well, this may seem ovious, but you cant use printf or cout
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[10:25] <toastintheshell> lol
[10:25] <amigojapan> since those are designed for terminals, nto for serial ports
[10:25] <amigojapan> the arduino IDE offers an alternative function
[10:26] <amigojapan> toastintheshell: actually my students all quit my course before they get to teh robotics part of it, which I have planned at the end :/
[10:27] <toastintheshell> on my bucket list are python, C, assembly, scheme, bash, and html5/css3/js
[10:27] <toastintheshell> to really feel fully proficient in each
[10:27] <toastintheshell> aw :(
[10:27] <amigojapan> bash is just a scripting language
[10:28] <amigojapan> I mean so is python, but bash feels like less of a full blown programming langauge htan python
[10:28] <toastintheshell> I'm not sure why that distinction is necessary
[10:29] <amigojapan> cause bash does not seem like something you need to become proficcient in, well, up to you
[10:30] <amigojapan> bash is good when you just need to chain many CLI commands together
[10:30] <gordonDrogon> bash is turing complete..
[10:30] <toastintheshell> it's got loops and functions and variables and you can run a script and it will do computing stuff for you
[10:30] <gordonDrogon> that doesn't mean it's useful for everything, however...
[10:31] <amigojapan> agreed gordonDrogon
[10:31] <gordonDrogon> I have seen 10,000 line programs written in bash.
[10:31] <amigojapan> that sounds ugly
[10:31] <gordonDrogon> sometimes things just grow.
[10:31] <toastintheshell> I mean it has limits and not all the features of a more computer sciency language, but it's certainly useful for what it is
[10:32] <amigojapan> toastintheshell: I would compare bash more to batch files than to say C++
[10:32] <toastintheshell> ew, yeah it's definitely not well-suited for large programs
[10:32] <gordonDrogon> other shells are available too - I do some stuff in csh (actually tcsh these days)
[10:32] <gordonDrogon> and for a while I did a lot of command-line scripting in PHP.
[10:33] <amigojapan> this is one of hte bigger programs I have written in bash http://wiki.unity3d.com/index.php/Linux_system_profiler.bash
[10:33] <toastintheshell> amigojapan: nontheless, it is certainly a language I'd like to master
[10:33] <toastintheshell> probably the one I'm closest to getting to that point, shortly before python
[10:33] <amigojapan> alright toastintheshell
[10:33] <toastintheshell> I've competently written some c
[10:34] <gordonDrogon> I stick mostly to C & BASIC these days, also assembler, but that's for 8-bit stuff (6502)
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[10:35] <amigojapan> why BASIC?
[10:35] <amigojapan> I wrote my owb BASIC interpreter for arduino http://amigojapan.github.io/Arduino-Retro-Computer-TV/
[10:36] <amigojapan> own*
[10:36] <toastintheshell> nice
[10:36] <toastintheshell> my first programs were all qbasic lol
[10:37] <toastintheshell> the random function produced the same number every time lol
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[10:37] <amigojapan> toastintheshell: probably you needed to change the seed
[10:37] <gordonDrogon> amigojapan, I wrote my own BASIC interperter, so why not :)
[10:38] <amigojapan> ah ok gordonDrogon
[10:38] <toastintheshell> so I'd put a line in there sometimes instructing the user to mash the keyboard a bunch before moving on to the next part
[10:38] <gordonDrogon> you can see it on a pi; sudo apt-get install rtb
[10:39] <toastintheshell> gordonDrogon: is your basic interpreter in the rasbian repos?
[10:39] <gordonDrogon> and like many my age (50's) BASIC was the first programming language we all used.
[10:39] <amigojapan> gordonDrogon: neat we are both basic interpreted veterans :)
[10:39] <gordonDrogon> toastintheshell, it was. still is, I think.
[10:39] <toastintheshell> looks like it is
[10:39] <gordonDrogon> well there you go :)
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[10:40] <amigojapan> gordonDrogon: I am 41 years old, and I did use BASIC, but I would not use it to write modern programs anymore
[10:40] <toastintheshell> that's cool
[10:40] <gordonDrogon> manual here: https://unicorn.drogon.net/rtb.pdf
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[10:40] <toastintheshell> how do you get code in a repo, just submit it somewhere?
[10:40] <gordonDrogon> it's a long story.
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[10:40] <aZz7eCh> I remember this one time,
[10:40] <amigojapan> toastintheshell: some people that can put it into a repo hang around here
[10:41] <gordonDrogon> lets not forget that every excell/word macro is a little basic program struggling to run :)
[10:41] <amigojapan> gordonDrogon: I would not use excell or word either nowdays
[10:41] <toastintheshell> after qbasic I did a little vb
[10:41] <gordonDrogon> and visual basic (VB) and visual basic for apps (VBA) are still quite active.
[10:41] <toastintheshell> which I blame for my horrible coding style to this day
[10:41] <gordonDrogon> amigojapan, I'm with you there, however billions use them daily.
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[10:42] <amigojapan> gordonDrogon: yeah, not the smartest choise
[10:42] <gordonDrogon> try telling them that. for them it is.
[10:42] <amigojapan> probably if I had to do startistics , I would use R I guess
[10:42] <gordonDrogon> everything has a place and use.
[10:43] <gordonDrogon> here is an example RTB program: https://unicorn.drogon.net/wumpus.rtb
[10:43] <amigojapan> gordonDrogon: I would not run windows to begin with
[10:43] <toastintheshell> I wrote a brainfuck interpreter in python
[10:43] <gordonDrogon> it's just another scripty procedural style language.
[10:44] <amigojapan> gordonDrogon: yet millions use windows, and I still think it is a bad choise
[10:44] <toastintheshell> I never got around to git committing the final working version :/ now I don't have it anymore
[10:46] <toastintheshell> https://esolangs.org/wiki/brainfuck
[10:48] <toastintheshell> +[-->>-[>>+>-----<<]<--<---]>-.>>>+.>>..+++[.>]<<<<.+++.------.<-.>>>>+.
[10:48] <amigojapan> toastintheshell: why do you link a brainfuck wiki as if we had not heard about it already?
[10:48] <toastintheshell> Hello World
[10:48] <toastintheshell> I don't know who's heard of what
[10:49] <amigojapan> almost everone on freenode I bet
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[10:50] <toastintheshell> lol, sorry, I figured you knew as a programmer
[10:50] <amigojapan> ok
[10:50] <toastintheshell> but not everyone in the channel is familiar with it I'm sure
[10:50] <amigojapan> alright
[10:51] <toastintheshell> a lot of primarily hardware people here
[10:51] <aZz7eCh> or .. if it gets in the way, primarily pull it out Hardware people here
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[10:51] <TheGallopingFox> where can i download 'expect' binary for rpi3?
[10:52] <TheGallopingFox> i need it for libreelec
[10:52] <aZz7eCh> i just about cried this morning. still trying engineer the line noise out of my trigger circuits, i realized, i dont need the pis involved at all :( Littterally worst day of my life
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[10:54] <toastintheshell> aZz7eCh: what were the pis in there for then?
[10:54] <amigojapan> aZz7eCh: still with that, why did you not copy a workign design?
[10:54] <aZz7eCh> cos in 8 days no one in here has been able to come up with any idea/suggestion/solution to deal with it.
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[10:55] <aZz7eCh> dont get me wrong the whole dropping to 500ohm resistors on each line solved most noise
[10:55] <amigojapan> aZz7eCh: you mean as to how to use a pushbottn on an RPI?
[10:55] <toastintheshell> the pis were there to reduce em interference somehow?
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[10:56] <toastintheshell> or bypass some system that had too much noise?
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[10:58] <amigojapan> toastintheshell: I think his problem was just on how to use a puchbottn with a pullup rsistor, if he is the person I am thinking of
[10:58] <amigojapan> pushbutton*
[10:58] <aZz7eCh> LOL ... oh dear.
[10:58] <aZz7eCh> no.
[10:58] <toastintheshell> well at least you've got your bitcoin savings
[10:58] <amigojapan> no? ok, sorry
[10:59] <aZz7eCh> i still cant explain the noise or "Floating" once you plug in the leads to the buttons 2-3 feet away. it escapes me completely. All i can think is that its because its all running inside a stainless steel machine in close quarters and just in a noisy em environment somehow
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[11:00] <aZz7eCh> oh, amigo yeah few days ago i was getting chan to make sure I understood doint external pullups manually rather than relying on the internal ones - you might be rememembering that part yeah
[11:01] <amigojapan> right
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[11:03] <TheGallopingFox> could somebody do a download link for 'expect' binary if you are not busy?
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[11:03] <aZz7eCh> anyway ... i sat down and started implementing adding a whole second 12v circuit and relays to run to buttons and relays closer to pi to do the switching quieter ... then suddenly realised, egh, lets just use 5v and divert it from the pis supply ... then enxt thing i know i'm pulling more lines off the pi ... then realise, omg ... i should just use my existing relay board and use one of the unused relays for switching the triggers local to
[11:03] <aZz7eCh> the pi .. and then it hit me ... i dont need the pi doing any of this logic, i just need a $2 5V 3A adapter, a 5V relay board, and three 0.80c timers :(
[11:03] <TheGallopingFox> so i can place it into libreelec
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[11:04] <aZz7eCh> no expandability obivously ... but ... holy moly ... depressing.
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[11:06] <toastintheshell> TheGallopingFox: I believe libreelec is debian based correct?
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[11:08] <toastintheshell> aZz7eCh: your secret's safe with us if you want to keep them in there though
[11:09] <TheGallopingFox> toastintheshell: correct
[11:09] <TheGallopingFox> actually its not
[11:09] <BCMM> i don't think so. xbian is based on debian. libreelec is very minimal; iirc doesn't ship with a package manager.
[11:09] <TheGallopingFox> but it is 32-bit arm
[11:09] <TheGallopingFox> i found my old pizero
[11:09] <TheGallopingFox> so will copy expect from that
[11:10] <aZz7eCh> toastintheshell, lol :) they're staying. future plans.
[11:10] <TheGallopingFox> its only a single binary
[11:10] <TheGallopingFox> should work
[11:10] <TheGallopingFox> libreelec is just enough os for kodi
[11:11] <toastintheshell> yeah looks like there's even less than I thought, does it even have stuff like dpkg or rpm installed?
[11:11] <BCMM> huh, looks like it really isn't based on anything. custom build system, right from upstream sources.
[11:12] <BCMM> always assumed it would be buildroot or something
[11:14] <toastintheshell> aZz7eCh: for ones with a lot of foot traffic you can always put a sim card in it and make it a hotspot behind a paywall
[11:15] <aZz7eCh> hah ... 3g/4g data rates in australia are criminal
[11:15] <aZz7eCh> you'd have to deposit a fortune
[11:15] <toastintheshell> well what'd you expect from an island descended from criminals
[11:20] <amigojapan> aZz7eCh: I pay about 100 USD for unlimited internet data sim for one year plan in Japan
[11:21] <aZz7eCh> oh, oh, what
[11:21] <aZz7eCh> thats brutal
[11:21] <toastintheshell> wow
[11:21] <amigojapan> brutal=good or bad?
[11:21] <aZz7eCh> i am trying to find alternative to normal sims here. I'm hoping one of our local telcos can give me some better situation/arrangemnt for low data ... perhaps some 0.01c per MB deal
[11:22] <toastintheshell> I heard japan had some amazing internet service
[11:22] <aZz7eCh> they're deploying 5g around au atm ... so things prolly about to change a lot
[11:23] <toastintheshell> $10/gig?
[11:23] <amigojapan> I dont think anyone needs 5g
[11:23] <aZz7eCh> yeah i dont i'd be happy with 1g/2g for the amount of data my machines need to send back
[11:23] <toastintheshell> speak for yourself amigojapan lol
[11:23] <amigojapan> toastintheshell: the only reason people would need it is either for torrenting, or for streamming 4k
[11:24] <aZz7eCh> toast $10/g, IF you use a GB... else the $10 is wasted
[11:24] <aZz7eCh> i'd rather just get chaged <$1.00 per machine per month for the data used
[11:24] <amigojapan> “toast” “brutal” I can hardly understand what you are saying aZz7eCh
[11:24] <toastintheshell> I do a lot of video production stuff and I download a lot of ISOs/images & stuff like that
[11:25] <aZz7eCh> toast = toastintheshell. Brutal = how good your internet prices are compared to here.
[11:25] <amigojapan> ah thanks aZz7eCh
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[11:27] <amigojapan> toastintheshell: that may be a good business in Japan, look for small shopt to let you put in for pay wifi in their shops
[11:27] <amigojapan> shops*
[11:28] <toastintheshell> uploading a ton of raw footage to the cloud can take hooooooours
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[11:28] <toastintheshell> amigojapan: yeah japan's pretty densly populated
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[11:29] <toastintheshell> and it seems like most people there are pretty internet connected
[11:29] <amigojapan> toastintheshell: there are plenty of small bars that dont yet have any internet access yet
[11:29] <aZz7eCh> japan not doing 5G ?
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[11:30] <amigojapan> aZz7eCh: we probably do if it is out yet
[11:30] <aZz7eCh> wifi access points are about to be pointless with 5g i believe
[11:30] <amigojapan> aZz7eCh: I am just saying i dont really need anything more htan 3g on portable devices
[11:30] <aZz7eCh> well ... i just mean as far as general public use /needs go
[11:30] <amigojapan> aZz7eCh: not pointless cause there are peopel that only use wifi
[11:31] <amigojapan> aZz7eCh: travellers and stuff too
[11:31] <toastintheshell> put them mainly in lower-income areas
[11:31] <amigojapan> toastintheshell: Japan does not have that many low income areas tho
[11:32] <amigojapan> there is not a huge gap between poor and rich in Japan
[11:32] <aZz7eCh> looks like you need to go do it across the river in phllipines
[11:32] <aZz7eCh> or cambodia
[11:32] <aZz7eCh> i'll come help ... lets go
[11:32] <amigojapan> I mean, both live in the same neighborhoods
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[11:33] <amigojapan> aZz7eCh: how would those people pay? i reckon then dont have credit cards
[11:33] <aZz7eCh> we could be kings in cambodia, laos, phillipines ... the bill gates telsa of SEA communications companies
[11:33] <toastintheshell> well I'm sure there are other metrics you could use to figure out where people are most likely to connect to a for-pay hotspot
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[11:34] <toastintheshell> all of them mining bitcoin lol
[11:34] <aZz7eCh> they have to purchase credit online using their phones 4g/5g, then use their phones RFId and an app to get access code to the hotspot they want to use. done. oh, wait
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[11:35] <toastintheshell> you may access this hotspot, but FIRST: you must answer me these questions three...
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[11:35] <amigojapan> aZz7eCh: you may be able to work out a “pay using cash” method with the shop offering the hotspot
[11:36] <aZz7eCh> hah ... they will give you $1 and pocket $10 at every turn.
[11:36] <toastintheshell> amigojapan: sounds like a nice simple solution
[11:36] <aZz7eCh> although logs and argue i spose
[11:36] <toastintheshell> if only we knew a guy that's good with programming webapps
[11:36] <amigojapan> aZz7eCh: you will have records of what was used
[11:36] <amigojapan> toastintheshell: a web app is easy
[11:36] <aZz7eCh> alright. so its agreed? we're heading to Laos ?
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[11:37] <amigojapan> aZz7eCh: I will let you be the on-site person, I can do othere stuff from here :)
[11:37] <toastintheshell> I'll meet you in vientiane in 16 hours
[11:37] <aZz7eCh> hah!
[11:37] <aZz7eCh> put money in my acc and i'll head out there.
[11:38] <aZz7eCh> 5 star vietnamese hotels only please ... i'm use to my 2-star western comforts.
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[11:46] <amigojapan> aZz7eCh: you think i am rich :/
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[11:46] <aZz7eCh> ahh i think we just found a lower income area
[11:46] <aZz7eCh> good start
[11:46] <amigojapan> hahaha
[11:48] <aZz7eCh> ohhhh
[11:48] <aZz7eCh> idea
[11:48] <toastintheshell> dogecoin?
[11:48] <aZz7eCh> we could let people connect to each point for free - but allow them ONLY to our own website where they can buy credit, and paypal.com.
[11:48] <toastintheshell> there ya go
[11:48] <aZz7eCh> voila - they can make payment and we unlock the wildcard block
[11:48] <aZz7eCh> :)
[11:49] <toastintheshell> maybe even allow a few websites for free to get them hooked
[11:50] <toastintheshell> like just google but nothing outside google
[11:50] <toastintheshell> you can do a search, but you can't click the link till you cough it up
[11:52] <amigojapan> toastintheshell: I have been on wifi hotspots that do exactly that
[11:52] <aZz7eCh> it all sounds like drinks in Laos while we plot to me.
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[11:53] <toastintheshell> amigojapan: seems like a good way to annoy the hell out of someone, but also they're halfway in the door by that point
[11:53] <aZz7eCh> OMG
[11:53] <aZz7eCh> what we could do
[11:53] <aZz7eCh> is let them log into their hotmail / banking etc.. for ABSOLUTELY FREE
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[11:53] <aZz7eCh> but second they do ... lock the keyboard and request payment
[11:53] <aZz7eCh> they cant close the page
[11:53] <aZz7eCh> banking open
[11:53] <amigojapan> is there a way to allow free wifi while still making money? I was thinking of something that may only work in Japan, but it is not wifi
[11:53] <aZz7eCh> emails open
[11:53] <aZz7eCh> they HAVE to pay
[11:53] <aZz7eCh> just to close the window
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[11:53] <toastintheshell> with enough hotspot pis out there we could get skynet up and running
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[11:54] <toastintheshell> then it will be greatful to us for helping bring forth its existence and we might be spared
[11:54] <aZz7eCh> hah
[11:54] <aZz7eCh> i doubt it. we'd have to unify and become one with it. you wouldn't remember that your not me.
[11:55] <toastintheshell> my memory's always been a bit fuzzy anyway
[11:55] * amigojapan was thinking of offering free battery charging areas that have an e-ink display , and only charge for ads, I know in other countries the device would be stolen
[11:56] <amigojapan> the battery charge would be offered with a rechargable battery
[11:56] <aZz7eCh> we have to pay for power here because we dont have nuclear
[11:56] <aZz7eCh> oh wait, you dont either now
[11:56] <aZz7eCh> :P
[11:56] <toastintheshell> you CAN do it with ads (depending on local laws), inject a banner at the top of every page or something
[11:57] <amigojapan> aZz7eCh: we ar eback on nuclear
[11:57] <toastintheshell> but that seems like a little too far to me
[11:57] <aZz7eCh> its pronounced, nuclear
[11:57] <defsdoor_> ENOPI4 ?
[11:57] <amigojapan> toastintheshell: that is more annoyign than using an e-ink display
[11:58] <amigojapan> toastintheshell: actually it could also be a free wifi spot, altho that has a bit more overhead for me to pay
[11:58] <amigojapan> toastintheshell: “let me put this free wifi spot in your shop” but charge for ads on the screen
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[11:59] <toastintheshell> yeah that's what I meant, free but with ads, or pay to lose them, but when you start mitming your customers you're definitely in a dark grey area
[11:59] <aZz7eCh> see - ads is what i am going to do with my water machines. sell the space to anyone who wants to advertise and perhaps let local news play their 'coming up tonight on ' ads on it. most customers have to stand at my machine doign nothing for 1-2 mins while they wait.
[12:00] <amigojapan> toastintheshell: you dont need to offer pay for free ads if hte ads are not on theri screen
[12:00] <defsdoor_> Ads make everything worse
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[12:00] <toastintheshell> true
[12:00] <defsdoor_> We'd just like to interrupt you getting some water for this brief message
[12:01] <amigojapan> defsdoor: I think the ads would be ok on a screen that just stis on the table
[12:01] <amigojapan> defsdoor: if it offers free charging and wifi hotspot
[12:01] <defsdoor_> relying on ads for service revenue suggests your service is of no value
[12:02] <defsdoor_> and ads make everything worse
[12:02] <amigojapan> defsdoor: why is it of no value?
[12:02] <toastintheshell> I honestly never minded ads if they make stuff free, but when it starts trying to figure me out with data other than the fact that I'm visiting a particular webpage I start getting uncomfortable
[12:02] <defsdoor_> I cannot think of a single thing made better by adverts
[12:02] <amigojapan> defsdoor: I said the ads would not go on the user’s screen
[12:03] <defsdoor_> the web - ruined, road sides - ruined, TV - ruined
[12:03] <toastintheshell> defsdoor_: basically most of the internet that we use on a daily basis is free because of ads
[12:03] <defsdoor_> toastintheshell, it was free long before it had ads
[12:03] <toastintheshell> but it wasn't much to look at
[12:03] <defsdoor_> lets not pretend ads made it possible
[12:04] <defsdoor_> ads forced their way in and made it shit
[12:04] <defsdoor_> ;)
[12:04] <amigojapan> defsdoor: well, it is the advertisors who would be paying for the services offered for free
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[12:05] <amigojapan> defsdoor: TV ads did not make TV worse, they paid for the content created
[12:05] <defsdoor_> one day there will be a government that decides its people are not there purely to be sold to and start banning stuff
[12:05] <defsdoor_> amigojapan, the BBC ?
[12:05] <toastintheshell> like ads?
[12:05] <aZz7eCh> #raspberrypiCommunistRevolution
[12:06] <amigojapan> defsdoor_: ok, the BCC is not free
[12:06] <aZz7eCh> isnt' the BBC why they charge a television Tax ?
[12:06] <toastintheshell> raspinism
[12:06] <amigojapan> they do aZz7eCh
[12:06] <toastintheshell> you're paying for something somehow
[12:06] <aZz7eCh> again... this sounds like something best nutter out over drinks in Laos
[12:07] <toastintheshell> some people don't particularly care if there are ads as long as they millions of websites for free
[12:07] <amigojapan> toastintheshell: every website could be for free
[12:08] <aZz7eCh> well technically they are already
[12:08] <toastintheshell> so we're agreed, the zeitgeist techno-communist revolution begins in laos
[12:08] <aZz7eCh> excellent
[12:08] <aZz7eCh> we will fund the revolution with eatery and small shop wifi points
[12:08] <aZz7eCh> with, Ads
[12:08] <aZz7eCh> we'll use the Wests Tactics against istelf
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[12:09] <toastintheshell> soon as that t1000 comes online we'll have a real leader to get behind
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[12:11] <aZz7eCh> or crushed under
[12:11] <TheGallopingFox> ok i tested radio addon and shoutcast addon, when you select a stream on both, kodi crashes / restarts
[12:11] <TheGallopingFox> maybe its a kodi bug rather than libreelec bug?
[12:12] <TheGallopingFox> tested on rpi version
[12:12] <toastintheshell> oy, kodi is such a brutal mistress
[12:12] <TheGallopingFox> 9.0.0.1
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[12:13] <toastintheshell> TheGallopingFox: is this the first time you've tried kodi? did those addons work previously?
[12:13] <toastintheshell> seems to me like a ton of addons might just be pretty much broken to begin with
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[12:23] <toastintheshell> another way to annoy people into paying would be loading all images upside down till payment is received
[12:24] <amigojapan> ouch toastintheshell
[12:24] <amigojapan> toastintheshell: I want to offer something that is friendly to the userss
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[12:25] <toastintheshell> i'd get a kick out of it if i encountered that hotspot
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[12:27] <gordonDrogon> I'm ust back from a week of travel - encountering a mix of paid-for and free wi-fi hotspots. I've also been involved in hotspot creation projects too.
[12:28] <amigojapan> free hotspots also get more customers in the shop
[12:28] <gordonDrogon> in-general, the free ones are as a suppliment to something you're already paying for - e.g. buying a coffee in a cafe, or staying in an up-market hotel.
[12:29] <gordonDrogon> paid-for ones are at budget places. e.g. one airline I used offered a free, but basic/slow service - no streaming, etc. or you could pay for more. I'm OK with that model.
[12:29] <gordonDrogon> the project I was working on some years back was like that - 1st class passengers got it for free, but standard class had to pay a suppliment.
[12:29] <aZz7eCh> is there any easy / premade sim card module for pi's ?
[12:30] <gordonDrogon> plenty of modules, but the SIM card thing is very country dependant.
[12:30] <gordonDrogon> there are a small number of 'global' sim cards though - they're effectively on global roaming all the time.
[12:30] <aZz7eCh> they all hanging off gpio? i cant work out whats easiest ... far as i can tell i hsould just put a $1 wifi dongle in pi, buy a cheap phone and enable its hotspot, plug it in a charger and leave it in machine next to the pi
[12:31] <gordonDrogon> aZz7eCh, personally I'd never, never use the Pi's on-board serial port - there are 1000's of USB dongles that will plug in & go on any Linux computer, Pi included.
[12:32] <aZz7eCh> 3g/4g usb dongles and leave it at that ?
[12:32] <gordonDrogon> I use my phone as a hotspot for Pi's when out and about and I need to demo, but I have good 4G coverage where I am.
[12:32] <aZz7eCh> yep same thats how i connect ot my machines when i arrive
[12:32] <gordonDrogon> so Pi 0W or 3B using wi-fi to my phone.
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[12:33] <gordonDrogon> however, based on past experiences of building hotspots, use a usb dongle to any linux host.
[12:33] <aZz7eCh> k
[12:33] <gordonDrogon> I used some small PC boards (Alix, etc.) that had those mini PCI slots (forgotten their exact name), and they effectively looked like USB adapters to the GSM chipset.
[12:34] <aZz7eCh> lol, right
[12:34] <aZz7eCh> well makes my life easier if a lot of dongles just work.
[12:34] <gordonDrogon> I think the gsm chipset makers just stick a usb interface on them because that's easy for them.
[12:35] <gordonDrogon> the older way you just send AT commands at it to 'dial' the telco's network address then run PPP to them - the newer ones do that for you and present a wlan0 type interface.
[12:35] <aZz7eCh> yeah much easier
[12:35] <gordonDrogon> so quite old fashioned when I was making the hotspots - wvdial, pppd, but it worked very well.
[12:36] <gordonDrogon> this was 6-7 years ago and we had to use industrial PCs, so while I had Pi's they would not have been suitable.
[12:37] <gordonDrogon> so many options - I think the "Mi-Fi" units sort of died out after phone hotspots became popular.
[12:41] <aZz7eCh> EDUP usb wifi adapters have always worked well in pi's for me.. Would this be easy to get going on a pi? https://www.aliexpress.com/item/EDUP-150Mbps-4G-USB-WiFi-Dongle-LTE-Universal-USB-Modem-Support-3g-4g-Nano-Sim-Card/32905248031.html?spm=2114.search0104.3.196.32123079DpJRCQ&ws_ab_test=searchweb0_0,searchweb201602_4_10065_10068_10130_10547_319_317_10548_10696_453_10084_454_10083_10618_10307_537_536_10131_10132_10902_10133_10059_10884_10887_
[12:41] <aZz7eCh> 321_322_10103,searchweb201603_16,ppcSwitch_0&algo_expid=aa28257b-1fd9-430e-91e9-c6f6d4369d14-26&algo_pvid=aa28257b-1fd9-430e-91e9-c6f6d4369d14
[12:41] <aZz7eCh> sory didn't realise the link was two miles long
[12:41] <aZz7eCh> sec
[12:41] <aZz7eCh> https://goo.gl/pBMZ2C
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[16:15] <pwillard> There was an early will adapter sold by Darnell early on that was really the I
[16:16] <pwillard> Only adapter I could never get working reliably
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[16:16] <pwillard> Wi-Fi, I mean
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[17:58] <_unreal_> FINALLY my buttons showed up
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[18:56] <toastintheshell> anybody have a good android or iphone ssh app that can do x forwarding?
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