#raspberrypi IRC Log

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IRC Log for 2019-03-04

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[1:44] <toastintheshell> man that zram thing really does wonders!
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[1:46] <toastintheshell> funny thing is it wasn't working for a while, and I meant to get back to it, then one day it just started working suddenly, Most likely it was an update/upgrade I did that fixed whatever was broken
[1:47] <toastintheshell> Really feels like I just downloaded another gig of ram, lol
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[1:55] <toastintheshell> novaspirit's script made the process pretty painless: https://github.com/novaspirit/rpi_zram
[1:55] <toastintheshell> 10/10 would download more ram again
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[3:08] <_unreal_> There I just got the stupid FACE all put together FINALLY!!!!!
[3:08] <aZz7eCh> wget to get files, wput to put files, how do i wdelete remote file
[3:08] <_unreal_> That houses the computer display almost everything
[3:09] <_unreal_> aZz7eCh, ahhh that you likely need FTP access to
[3:09] <_unreal_> OR a java like interface
[3:09] <_unreal_> i.e. google drive
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[3:10] <_unreal_> I could be worng but I do know know of any binary like the W chain that would allow you to delete files.
[3:12] <_unreal_> aZz7eCh, ya wput uses FTP protocals as I mentioned for trying to delete files
[3:12] <_unreal_> and there is no wdelete
[3:12] <_unreal_> :)
[3:14] <_unreal_> toastintheshell, zram?
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[3:16] <_unreal_> toastintheshell, zram eats cpu cycles because its zipping/unzipping data
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[3:30] <_unreal_> ?
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[3:30] <toastintheshell> _unreal_: I haven't noticed a ton of issues with not enough cpu, but web browsing fills the ram in a heartbeat
[3:30] <toastintheshell> so it's perfect for my browser pi
[3:31] <toastintheshell> chromium used to crap its pants everytime I had 2 or 3 tabs open
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[3:37] <_unreal_> ya linux minimum is like 2gigs for usable
[3:37] <_unreal_> well really more like 3gb now
[3:38] <_unreal_> 8GB is ideal
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[3:41] <_unreal_> toastintheshell, today https://drive.google.com/open?id=1AqJJk3gauW8we71o2Gq6llxlyLjZhNVs
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[3:42] <toastintheshell> Well I don't really use much other than terminal programs and chromium
[3:42] <_unreal_> toastintheshell, see link?
[3:43] <_unreal_> ?
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[3:51] <toastintheshell> _unreal_: that thing wild?
[3:51] <_unreal_> I do live in south florida
[3:51] <_unreal_> https://drive.google.com/open?id=1L5TGCqnUR8I2aKC6VXmtnc4tQMoIClyM https://drive.google.com/open?id=1ZiHl5lYy8hkTQ5r8hc657Kgnl8EhxpFt
[3:51] <_unreal_> ya today was a rough day
[3:52] <_unreal_> :)
[3:52] <_unreal_> the yellow fruits are Lowquats
[3:53] <_unreal_> loquat
[3:53] <_unreal_> google them
[3:53] <_unreal_> google click on images
[3:54] <_unreal_> have a tree in the back yard and a mango and multi coconuts
[3:54] <_unreal_> star fruit tree
[3:54] <_unreal_> the list goes on
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[3:54] <_unreal_> its nice always being in summer
[3:54] <_unreal_> though middle of SUMMER sucks stupid hot
[3:55] <_unreal_> ? hello
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[3:57] <_unreal_> jigsy https://drive.google.com/open?id=1L5TGCqnUR8I2aKC6VXmtnc4tQMoIClyM https://drive.google.com/open?id=1ZiHl5lYy8hkTQ5r8hc657Kgnl8EhxpFt https://drive.google.com/open?id=1AqJJk3gauW8we71o2Gq6llxlyLjZhNVs
[3:57] <_unreal_> :)
[3:57] <toastintheshell> yeah florida in the summer is so hot AND humid
[3:57] <_unreal_> averages about 92 in the summer 100% humidity
[3:57] <_unreal_> HOT
[3:57] <_unreal_> but so what 2 months of STUPID hot
[3:57] <_unreal_> GREAT beach weather
[3:58] <toastintheshell> I went there one year on christmas break when I was a kid, went bodyboarding on christmas day, it was like 77 degrees
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[4:11] <toastintheshell> I'd take sweating for a couple months over shoveling snow and freezing my face off
[4:15] <Snert> you can put on enuff to stay warm buchu can't take enuff off to get cool
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[4:16] <toastintheshell> true, but I think I hate being super hot less than I hate being super cold
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[4:25] <amigojapan> Snert: take off your skin :)
[4:26] <amigojapan> I preffer cold over heat
[4:26] <aZz7eCh> well... in laos,
[4:28] <amigojapan> aZz7eCh: in a five star hotel in laos hopefully there is AC
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[4:32] <toastintheshell> if someone wants to pay my overdraft fees and buy me a plane ticket I'm in
[4:34] <amigojapan> same here, if someone pays for stuff, which nobody will
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[4:38] <toastintheshell> aZz7eCh: amigojapan and I will develop all the software and hardware for the skynet hotspot if you'll fund the travel expenses
[4:39] <toastintheshell> and 10% of the bitcoin profits
[4:39] <amigojapan> also to be honest, we probably wont be able to communicate with the locals
[4:40] <toastintheshell> and positions in the technocommunist party's cabinet
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[4:43] <amigojapan> aZz7eCh: we could also get rid of advertisements and make the chanrgeing/wifi hotspots coin operated
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[4:44] <amigojapan> what would you rather have as a user, ads or paying for it?
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[4:59] <_unreal_> I'm back
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[5:42] <toastintheshell> coin/bill operated would be awesome
[5:42] <toastintheshell> but where are we gonna find someone that knows how to set up a coin operated system like that?
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[11:42] <kembrek> I am trying to download dependencies with pip for Python 3.6.5 (using the pipenv tool). When I am running the installation it is taking hours and hours. When I run top, it's saying the c compiler is taking 100% of the CPU (cc1). Is there anything I can do to make things faster?
[11:43] <kembrek> Thisis a raspberry pi 3b+
[11:46] <shiftplusone> If you're using raspbian and didn't disable piwheels, not really. Aside from maybe setting up distcc nodes or at least ccache so that you only have to wait this long once.
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[11:57] <kembrek> ah, maybe I am not using piwheels because I installed a new version of python from source
[11:57] <kembrek> I'll give that one a go, shiftplusone
[11:58] * shiftplusone looks at the chromium build and wishes it only took hours and hours rather than days =(
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[12:05] <kembrek> shiftplusone: xD
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[12:06] <kembrek> I might need that next! I tried using the new CSS grid to find the version of chromium that comes in the package repository doesn't support it yet
[12:07] <shiftplusone> I'm in the process of updating the version in the repo to v72
[12:08] <shiftplusone> 72.0.3626.105
[12:08] <shiftplusone> Recent enough for your use case?
[12:09] <kembrek> yes, thanks :) I'm good for now - I am using a CSS flex layout which is supported but it will be most welcome to be able to use grid
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[12:09] <shiftplusone> alright
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[12:11] <shiftplusone> We need to split out the armv6 and armv7 versions of chromium because I'm told there's about a 10% performance loss in using the armv6 version on armv7. So that doubles the build time and makes packaging a pain =/
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[13:24] <waveform> kembrek, it may also be because it's a wheel which piwheels hasn't processed yet (some we do are manual, and there's currently a backlog due to some issues at mythic); which package are you trying to install?
[13:25] <waveform> oh hang on - just read you're using a custom source python version - that's likely to be it - we only support 3.4 and 3.5 currently on piwheels (though plans are in place for 3.7 when buster releases)
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[13:30] <shiftplusone> waveform, speaking of buster. are your packages generally good to just copy across from stretch or do they need to be rebuilt and/or re-tested? For now I've just copied everything across (internally).
[13:31] <waveform> shiftplusone, my python based packages *should* be fine to be copied over the buster; they're all "pure" python and I don't *think* any of the dependencies has changed on buster
[13:31] <waveform> *to buster
[13:31] <shiftplusone> that was my thinking as well, but without testing them it's hard to bee 100% sure.
[13:32] <shiftplusone> I guess we'll check that closer to release
[13:32] <waveform> indeed - I haven't had the chance to try a full buster image on my Pis here yet, so far our experiments with that have all been around piwheels and trying to get a builder we can use there to get a bit of a head-start ahead of the launch
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[13:33] <shiftplusone> good idea
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[17:37] <aZz7eCh> so guess what
[17:38] <aZz7eCh> that first mach i threw down at a site the other day ... still going strong! doing the external pullups with really low resistors, and swithcing to on edge detect idle script ... world of difference! thanks chan!
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[17:39] <aZz7eCh> as i pull a coffee and sit down to prep the same wiring for 69 of them.
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[18:25] <shiftplusone> aZz7eCh, woo! sounds good
[18:26] <shiftplusone> When somebody else said lower value resistors wouldn't help I was starting to doubt myself.
[18:27] <shiftplusone> But they're not low enough to exceed the 15mA per GPIO pin or 50mA per bank limits?
[18:29] <gordonDrogon> if it's external pull-ups on inputs they could be anything that won't affect the overall 3.3v supply as the gpio pins won't sink or source via them.
[18:30] <gordonDrogon> I'm guessing this is something like long wires to the Pi from a remote switch sort of thing?
[18:31] <shiftplusone> ah, it's in high impedence state, duh. Of course.
[18:31] <shiftplusone> yeah, he has vending machines in an electrically noisy environment and longish wires
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[18:33] <shiftplusone> I tend to make stupid mistakes like that if I don't sit down and draw the circuit, even if it's the bare basics. Don't do much electronics nowadays.
[18:34] <gordonDrogon> hm. someone was emailing me about slot machines recently - the coin input device uses some weird 9-bit serial protocol...
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[18:43] <stiv> curious
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[19:22] <aZz7eCh> cables not that long - 3 feet tops. but whole contraption running inside stainless steel chassis. i really cant work out what is causing the floating and or/noise. I have run buttons through 20m of plain old extension cord without issue before ..
[19:22] <aZz7eCh> i alreayd have all the machines operating fine with just hte internal pullups, but i have to software decide what the inputs are REALLY doing ... unfortunately that sometimes filters out someone Actually tryign to use the machine
[19:23] <aZz7eCh> someone showed me about using a non-looping script to reduce/end cpu use ... and i was hooked. meant i had to solve the NOISE issue. which i then figured may actually be just floating, not noise. so made my own external pullups.
[19:23] <aZz7eCh> 10k on each of the 4 inputs was just as noisy as internal pullups.
[19:24] <aZz7eCh> 5k was noticably better but still unacceptalbe mounts
[19:24] <aZz7eCh> 1k was brilliant but still the occational...
[19:24] <aZz7eCh> 500 ohm, we've reached nirvana.
[19:24] <aZz7eCh> i dont know why to be honest.
[19:24] <aZz7eCh> so now bugger all false triggers, and only a couple of software if loops to check it really is being pressed, and done...
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[19:26] <aZz7eCh> honestly i'm still tempted to just leave resistors out period and just drive the 3v3 straight into the gpios
[19:27] <aZz7eCh> since it seems to so easily trigger low anyway
[19:27] <shiftplusone> it doesn't go into the gpios.
[19:27] <shiftplusone> If you leave them out altogether, you'll have a short.
[19:27] <aZz7eCh> hah. well. believing you is only reason i have just done it yet :P
[19:28] <shiftplusone> But you still have a lot of wiggle room to reduce it further
[19:28] <aZz7eCh> havent*
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[19:41] <fructose> Is there some sort of virtual/phantom Raspberry Pi I can use to develop scripts, e.g. using RPi.GPIO in Python?
[19:41] <fructose> (Rather than needing to have one actually connected)
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[19:44] <larsks> fructose: I use qemu on my desktop for doing Pi development, but that's typically because I'm building in C and it's easier than a cross-compile toolchain. It doesn't emulate gpio behavior, and I'm not aware of anything that does.
[19:45] <shiftplusone> might be a question for waveform. You can also hook up a pi zero and use the gpio extension. That way you do all your coding on your PC, but the GPIO stuff happens on the pi.
[19:45] <shiftplusone> Referring to this https://gpiozero.readthedocs.io/en/stable/pi_zero_otg.html
[19:47] <shiftplusone> https://gpiozero.readthedocs.io/en/stable/api_pins.html
[19:47] <shiftplusone> seems to have a mock pin_factory
[19:47] <shiftplusone> https://gpiozero.readthedocs.io/en/stable/api_pins.html#module-gpiozero.pins.mock , to be exact
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[19:48] <fructose> larsks, shiftplusone: Thanks, I'll look into that.
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[20:07] <whippingboy> Hey guys
[20:07] <whippingboy> where and how will the pi cam 2.1 show up if working? lsusb or dmesg?
[20:10] <gordonDrogon> it's not usb, so ...
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[20:11] <shiftplusone> if you use the v4l driver (not enabled by default), it will be /dev/video0. Otherwise, you can't really check without using it. It's probed for when you try to access it for the first time
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[20:16] <larsks> Maybe "vcgencmd get_camera"?
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[20:18] <whippingboy> im afriad i broke it
[20:19] <whippingboy> but cant find a way to check if its the cable or its the board that is dead
[20:20] <whippingboy> vcgencmd get_camera: supported=1 detected=0
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[20:24] <friendofafriend> That's the pits. Why are you afraid you broke it?
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[20:28] <whippingboy> because i tried to put it into a slafe made pastric print case, and after that there was no steam in octopi
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[20:34] <waveform> fructose, yup - shiftplusone has exactly what I was going to suggest: our MockPin implementation in gpiozero is what we use to test the device classes when running tests on Travis (which obviously doesn't have any GPIO pins :)
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[20:35] <therion23> friendofafriend: i have to offer you a drink in Copenhagen for finding me jslisten, it is exactly what i looked for
[20:35] <therion23> five minutes and five lines later it worked like i wished for
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[20:37] <friendofafriend> therion23: I'm overjoyed it worked for you! A joystick an excellent control for a music system, good thinking.
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[20:40] <therion23> friendofafriend: took a little bit of modification to remap the axis to buttons, but hey, a quick hack beats none any day
[20:41] <therion23> and yeah it's a blast - press both shoulder buttons and a random album comes on
[20:41] <therion23> it's glorious, i owe you a drink!
[20:42] <friendofafriend> That's very clever! I'll take you up on the drink, next time I'm in Copenhagen. ;)
[20:42] <friendofafriend> Lots of music programs have joystick control built-in, it's so handy.
[20:44] <therion23> yeah, if you spent more than an hour of your life with a gamepad in your hands, it manes so much sense
[20:44] <therion23> and thank you for your script, that was when it made sense, the rest took about eight minutes to set up
[20:45] <therion23> "is it that simple?" *typetype*
[20:46] <friendofafriend> I'm so glad! What sort of joystick did you use? One for Playstation?
[20:47] <therion23> at first, it was a Hong Kong VR controller, then i went *expletive deleted* *expletive deleted* *expletive deleted* and grabbed an 8bitDO Zero
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[20:48] <therion23> the whole magic is remembering the key combos you set up haha
[20:49] <friendofafriend> That 8BitDo looks perfect for controlling music.
[20:51] <therion23> yeah it is great and more sturdy than you would think
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[20:52] <therion23> of course you do not win King Of Fighters with it unless you have glue and sticky tape
[20:52] <friendofafriend> Looks a lot like the Roku remote with a few extra buttons. Are you also using a DAC on your Raspberry Pi?
[20:52] <therion23> yes, i am, the pHAT DAC which is layer wise the same as the Hifiberry (something, not sure what model)
[20:54] <friendofafriend> Are you pleased with the sound? I've only used USB sound cards for the Pi, those DACs look like fun.
[20:55] <therion23> oh that is a long story .. i got it for tinnitus masking and it does the job so perfectly
[20:56] <therion23> but in general, it is definitely worth its price times ten - just make sure you get RCA plugs for it
[20:56] <therion23> three solder spots, even i can do it, so you can too
[20:57] <friendofafriend> What do you use for tinnitus masking? Just a loop of pink noise or nature sounds?
[20:58] <therion23> a combination, throw in some binaural loops and your fave music, and when you get the volume levels right, it just might help
[20:58] <friendofafriend> I share a wall with the neighbor, and I'd like to cover up my late nights before he punches a hole in the wall. ;)
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[20:59] <therion23> but yeah, pink noise is the obvious building block
[20:59] <friendofafriend> Never considered making a mix out of it, very smart.
[21:02] <therion23> first step was not wanting to wear ear aids at home
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[21:02] <therion23> second was calling up Pimoroni going "guys! you got something like this?"
[21:03] <therion23> isn't it just a beauty how we use our pi's so differently?
[21:04] <friendofafriend> They are absolutely brilliant devices. It's wonderful how many single-board computers have come after it.
[21:04] <friendofafriend> And before a "devkit" was almost as much as a whole PC!
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[21:05] <therion23> mmm, i remeber paying ¢4000 for a 20MB Seagate hard drive back then
[21:05] <therion23> not like humans evolved but we still came a long way hehe
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[21:07] <friendofafriend> I remember those 20MB hard drives, also. Now we can fit several TB in one nostril on microSD!
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[21:18] <therion23> yeah, isn't it just surreal that our three meter tape shelf space is just a fragment of the phone memory?
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[21:23] <therion23> i remember the second ZX Spectrum emulator being able to load things from tape .. and with a four or five byte mod you could tell the ROM to "fail" but the emulator would still dump the loaded data to tape
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[22:24] <gzuh> does anyone know a good resource to understand linux file permissions? I need a directory to be accessible by both transmission-daemon and nfs, and I can't figure out how to make the directory readable to both
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[22:28] <stiv> sounds like you want to create a group and add your users to it
[22:31] <stiv> then use chown to set the group
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[22:33] <gzuh> stiv: well i understand that nfs requires it's shares to be nobody:nogroup or something. I'm wondering if I should mount the share locally rather than trying to access the filesystem directly? (it's an external hard disk)
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[22:37] <shauno> I don't think that's required, just default. you can map anon to another user/group with eg anonuid=1000,anongid=1000 in the export options
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