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IRC Log for 2019-03-08

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[0:29] <seek^126> finally: Python 3.7.1 :D it took ages to compile on the zero
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[0:33] <toastintheshell> seek^126: what do you need that for?
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[0:48] <artok> ehh.. that's why there is cross compilers =)
[0:48] <seek^126> f strings. i want to use fancy f strings
[0:50] <seek^126> also i've python 3.7.1 on my windows mashine so i decided it would be good to have the same version on both
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[1:01] <toastintheshell> seek^126: cool, how long was the compile?
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[1:07] <DanielTheFox> toastintheshell, cool
[1:07] <toastintheshell> DanielTheFox: cool what?
[1:07] <DanielTheFox> it's almost exclusively centered on househosted FM broadcasting
[1:07] <DanielTheFox> on 91.9 FM frequency (not used here)
[1:07] <seek^126> idk tbh.. it took longer as expected.. so I let it run over night.. but i guess it was like 30min
[1:08] <DanielTheFox> [16:02:29] <toastintheshell> DanielTheFox: how's that sdr project working out?
[1:08] <DanielTheFox> I was answering this question :)
[1:08] <toastintheshell> oh wasn't sure if that's what you were talking about
[1:09] <DanielTheFox> also, I like mirroring http://162.144.38.39:9010
[1:10] <toastintheshell> nice, pi-
[1:10] <toastintheshell> pi-rate radio would be cool too*
[1:10] <DanielTheFox> I'd like to broadcast NTSC too, but I guess that's better done with a specific device for the job
[1:10] * toastintheshell my lawyer has informed me that that was a joke
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[1:11] <toastintheshell> why's ntsc so hard?
[1:11] <DanielTheFox> again, it doesn't reach beyond 40 metres (range slightly extended by replacing AUX cable with slightly longer telephone cable as antenna)
[1:12] <toastintheshell> you can get a bigger antenna
[1:12] <DanielTheFox> toastintheshell, high sample rates, composite color signal is kinda wonky
[1:12] <toastintheshell> what about black and white
[1:12] <DanielTheFox> true, it's far more doable
[1:13] <DanielTheFox> although the high sampling rate is still a problem for a Pi
[1:13] <DanielTheFox> as it might require significant processing power
[1:13] <DanielTheFox> that, and the lack of an actual DAC (output is more or less 1-bit) requires a more specific device
[1:13] <toastintheshell> hm, but pi can generate a composite signal
[1:13] <DanielTheFox> yeah
[1:13] <toastintheshell> at least earlier models
[1:13] <DanielTheFox> all models can
[1:14] <DanielTheFox> (it's just about finding where it does)
[1:14] <toastintheshell> I wonder if there's a way to make the hardware responsible for that process do the processing and then just repeat it through the antenna
[1:14] <DanielTheFox> on the Pi 3B+, it's on the audio output jack
[1:14] <DanielTheFox> toastintheshell, RF signal modulators are cheap
[1:14] <DanielTheFox> they convert composite input into RF channel signal (often it's channel 3 or 4)
[1:15] <_unreal_> hello
[1:15] <toastintheshell> what the dilly unrilly
[1:15] <_unreal_> yooo
[1:15] <_unreal_> got a bunch more parts installed
[1:15] <DanielTheFox> maybe I can modify or reverse-engineer that device
[1:15] <DanielTheFox> so I can make it do what i want
[1:15] <_unreal_> having issues with the SD card extention adapter though
[1:16] <_unreal_> works kind of but its having read or write errors and the tinkerboard crashes
[1:16] <toastintheshell> _unreal_: what's this extention adapter? usb sdcard reader?
[1:16] <_unreal_> I dont know if its due to the long ribbon cable? if its a shielding issue? or the cable just being to long?
[1:16] <_unreal_> no one sec
[1:17] <DanielTheFox> long wires on super high-speed connections is not recommended
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[1:17] <_unreal_> https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B007X0KA1O/ref=ppx_yo_dt_b_asin_title_o04_s00?ie=UTF8&psc=1
[1:17] <_unreal_> I REALLY REALLY REALLY want this to work but I dont know whats causing the issue?
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[1:44] <toastintheshell> man these dogs are actin a fool
[1:51] <_unreal_> been having an interesting chat with my daughter....
[1:51] <_unreal_> so I see no one responded to my post
[1:52] <_unreal_> I have no idea why that SDcard extention thing is having issues.. I dont know if its due to not having shielding? or if it is do to the lenght of the cable or some pother isssue?
[1:52] <_unreal_> I'm not sure maybe hysteresis, or RF?
[1:52] <BurtyB> _unreal_, pass - maybe try sd_overclock in dtoverlay but give it a slower speed (not sure if that would work tho)
[1:53] <_unreal_> BurtyB, That is the BOOT drive for my tinker board
[1:53] <_unreal_> last thing I dont to do is slow it down
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[1:53] <BurtyB> _unreal_, ah err no idea I figured this was a raspberry pi :)
[1:53] <_unreal_> BurtyB, doesnt matter
[1:53] <_unreal_> pi or tinker board
[1:54] <_unreal_> same thing
[1:54] <BurtyB> not at all
[1:54] <_unreal_> I tested it with my PI and it did the same thing unstable
[1:54] <_unreal_> ahhh YES!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!11 SAM,E THING
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[1:54] <BurtyB> well the option I said to try most likely won't exist on a "tinker board"
[1:54] <_unreal_> sdcard extention sdcard being the OS boot
[1:55] <_unreal_> I have a few SBC computers and I tested it in all of them and they are all unstable
[1:55] <_unreal_> so I dont know what the issue is?
[1:57] <_unreal_> I dont know if the ribbon cable is to long? if its getting RF issue? if it just needs shielding? or a farrite bead... etc...
[1:58] <toastintheshell> how long is the cable?
[1:58] <_unreal_> toastintheshell, see link
[1:58] <_unreal_> BurtyB, https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B07FDBZCXG/ref=ppx_yo_dt_b_asin_title_o04_s00?ie=UTF8&psc=1 This thing is @$%#@$%@$# sweet just finished getting it setup
[1:58] <_unreal_> works great
[1:59] <_unreal_> BurtyB, ?
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[2:03] <_unreal_> hello?
[2:04] <_unreal_> immmmm all ahh lone.... yayaaaaaa with noooo one to talkkkk toooooo
[2:04] <_unreal_> damn I TXT sing wel
[2:04] <_unreal_> well
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[2:16] <PuppetOfFate> hello
[2:17] <PuppetOfFate> is anyone available to help me with some tech stuff with my pi? it freaked out and idk what to do
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[3:11] <shockingbehavur> Hi,
[3:11] <toastintheshell> hi
[3:12] <shockingbehavur> I'm here asking about creating a hot-spot
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[3:12] <toastintheshell> hostapd?
[3:13] <shockingbehavur> I've gone through hostapd it ends mangled
[3:13] <shockingbehavur> I have to reinstall raspbian
[3:14] <toastintheshell> network manager?
[3:14] <shockingbehavur> I've got the lite version
[3:15] <toastintheshell> cli only or gui without extras?
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[3:15] <shockingbehavur> Cli only
[3:16] <shockingbehavur> Raspbian stretch
[3:16] <toastintheshell> well you can make a hotspot with network manager, nmtui can be a bit finicky but it usually works pretty well for me
[3:16] <toastintheshell> it's menu-based so pretty easy to figure out
[3:17] <shockingbehavur> I'm off for desktop configuration anything else
[3:18] <toastintheshell> come again?
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[3:19] <shockingbehavur> I use terminal commands and using shell using ssh
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[3:19] <toastintheshell> nmtui uses ncurses
[3:19] <toastintheshell> no x
[3:19] <shockingbehavur> Cool
[3:19] <shockingbehavur> Apology
[3:19] <toastintheshell> usually works for me although you can do it all with nm without the tui, I just find it easier
[3:21] <toastintheshell> you can check it it's installed, try man nm
[3:21] <shockingbehavur> I'll get a start to it then thanks
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[3:25] <toastintheshell> *man nmtui
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[7:02] <mlelstv> not sure what "to clock" means, but you can synchronize DMA cycles to some peripherals.
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[9:13] <bx9> How does one clock DMA transfers externally on the RPi ?
[9:14] <mlelstv> you could trigger a transfer with PCM or SPI inputs.
[9:15] <mlelstv> there are other peripherals, but probably reserved. I.e. the DSI interface can trigger transfers.
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[9:17] <bx9> Is it possible in existing hardware to make so that 8-bits can be clocked in so that the DMA engine reads it in parallell ?
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[9:20] <mlelstv> the DMA engine can read GPIO registers
[9:20] <bx9> great
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[9:21] <bx9> Is there any existing syscalls to do this from userland. Or does one need to write a brand new kernel module?
[9:21] <mlelstv> I doubt there is.
[9:22] <bx9> So kernel writing it is?
[9:23] <mlelstv> I'd start to look at the code that does PWM for many signals. That's not input but output.
[9:23] <bx9> För att man vill driva en agenda.
[9:23] <bx9> ops.
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[9:37] <mlelstv> https://www.raspberrypi.org/forums/viewtopic.php?t=148830 has some links
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[9:51] <bx9> mlelstv: Great link there. Hints to Pigpio --> https://abyz.me.uk/rpi/pigpio/
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[9:53] <bx9> This strikes me as weird "hardware timed sampling and time-stamping of GPIO 0-31 every 5 us" when the DMA hardware is supposedly capable of 20 MByte/s at minimum.
[9:54] <mlelstv> I don't think that pigpio does DMA
[9:54] <bx9> ah
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[9:55] <bx9> Any existing stuff that calls DMA using existing syscalls?
[9:56] <gordonDrogon> pigpio uses the dma engine cranked by the pwm timers to sample the pins.
[9:56] <gordonDrogon> (AIUI)
[9:58] <bx9> Thus it should be possible to crank up the PWM registers or select another clock input. Seems there's a reasonably easy point to modify the code to the desired function.
[9:59] <gordonDrogon> the code is there... good luck.
[9:59] <mlelstv> you could use PCM in slave mode and trigger DMA with the PCM_FS signal (GPIO19?)
[10:00] <mlelstv> an alternative is SMI, but that's not documented :-/
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[10:02] <gordonDrogon> you might want to note that it's not been possible in the past to accurately sample the gpio pins at more than 2Mhz. Look for the pianalyzer project and the pitubedirect (which uses bare metal).
[10:02] <gordonDrogon> you're up against dynamic ram and a gpu that can take over the memory system at any point.
[10:03] <gordonDrogon> so, yes, you can poll the gpio pins at 20Mhz, but knowing if you missed a poll? you can't tell..
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[10:04] <mlelstv> that's why you'd want to trigger the dma cycle externally.
[10:06] <mlelstv> still a problem without a fifo in there, but 20MHz isn't unreasonable.
[10:06] <mlelstv> how fast can you output ?
[10:08] <bx9> Feels little like that 1960s series "As always should you or any of your coding skills fail or crash. The Secretary will disavow any knowledge of your project." ;-)
[10:09] <bx9> mlelstv: asking me?
[10:09] <mlelstv> no, gordon :)
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[10:11] <bx9> btw.. https://nakedsecurity.sophos.com/2019/03/06/serious-chrome-zero-day-google-says-update-right-this-minute/
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[10:12] <mlelstv> how could you be safe without zero-days available to NSA to protect you ?
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[10:16] <bx9> Kind of like the wolf guarding the chickens ;)
[10:16] <Snert_> Because there's absolutely no way the NSA has been actively exploiting that.
[10:17] <Snert_> lol... surrrreeeeeeee.
[10:18] <bx9> They are the government and it's illegal to be evil so they would not do anything bad. Trust us (tm). ;-)
[10:18] <Snert_> If you were a pggmr and someone gave you an envelope with 50K cash in it..... would you leave a bounds check on keyboard input out of your code?
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[10:19] <bx9> oops "misstake"..
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[10:21] <bx9> If this DMA is clocked externally. Then if this clock occurs when the DRAM feels like a refresh cycle. That particular fetch will be missed? Or is it that the PWM output will but the DMA works, if triggered?
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[10:27] <immibis> probably something like it does it after the refresh cycle
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[10:28] <mlelstv> you can only trigger the DMA cycle, which will happen a little bit delayed. And you won't get any kind of acknowledgement.
[10:30] <bx9> No builtin FIFO?
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[10:31] <bx9> Some CPUs even have a small programmable DMA engine as in it can execute code with a limited instruction set.
[10:32] <mlelstv> the FIFO is usually in the peripheral that provides the data. It can even raise the priority of the DMA channel to avoid FIFO underflow. But the GPIO doesn't have a FIFO.
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[10:36] <Snert_> if the FIFO of the GPIO was reduced to just DMA would the CPU underflow? Or would the GPIO feed the CPU with DMA?
[10:37] <Snert_> lol acronym city :)
[10:39] <immibis> GPIO probably doesn't have a FIFO
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[10:40] <immibis> like mlelstv said
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[10:52] <waveform> there's no FIFO that I'm aware of on the GPIOs. I should also add that *all* the methods I'm aware of for edge detection (from pigpio's DMA sampling to RPi.GPIO's epoll) can miss edges in various circumstances
[10:53] <bx9> If the DRAM refresh or GPU interrupts. Is the GPIO reading only delayed? or completely missed? thus if the input signal is present longer than the maximum time for any such event. It would be read within the assigned time slot anyway?
[10:53] <immibis> it might be that nobody simply knows that
[10:54] <waveform> bx9, good question - no idea
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[10:55] <tommy``> https://scontent-mxp1-1.xx.fbcdn.net/v/t1.0-9/53453081_1104975592997476_9042804898697052160_n.png?_nc_cat=105&_nc_ht=scontent-mxp1-1.xx&oh=313f37f8bcc4d259cb1c959ff944e68d&oe=5D11437C
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[11:01] <mlelstv> https://www.raspberrypi.org/forums/viewtopic.php?t=92233
[11:03] <mlelstv> this could be the easiest thing
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[11:20] <weilawei> Anyone ever get OpenOCD to work with the rpi3b+? I've spent a week wading through half-complete blog posts missing critical information and I've coaxed it to the stage where OpenOCD reports a seemingly not-at-all useful scan chain of 21 TAPS without IDCODEs or anything else to help configure them.
[11:20] <weilawei> https://pastebin.com/raw/D0BGTSG4
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[11:54] <bx9> Seems this picture gives the pinout for SMI: https://web.archive.org/web/20190308105138im_/https://raw.githubusercontent.com/fenlogic/IDE_trial/master/hw/schematic/schem_A.png
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[12:04] <bx9> The project managed to get 44 MB/s From Raspberry Pi v1 BCM2835 (code written in 2014).
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[12:05] <bx9> https://github.com/fenlogic/IDE_trial
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[12:36] <bx9> Related issue in regards to jitter. https://lwn.net/Articles/549592/ activating nohz=off in cmdline.txt supposedly reduces jitter issues. (thanks to realtime and NTP folks)
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[12:45] <bx9> https://www.tablix.org/~avian/blog/archives/2018/02/notes_on_the_general_purpose_clock_on_bcm2835/
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[12:46] <bx9> So 19.2 MHz base clock + PLL. Thus clock outputs will likely not be suitable for stable sampling of external signals.
[12:46] <bx9> ie external clock needed.
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[13:28] <gordonDrogon> mlelstv, sorry - had to dash out earlier. you can poll for input at the same speed, but if linux or the gpu stalls you for a millisecond then who knows what you lose.
[13:28] <gordonDrogon> I've no first-hand experience with using the dma engines.
[13:29] <gordonDrogon> my view for high speed, time critical stuff has always been that the Pi is not the best tool.
[13:33] <bx9> but it's all over the place and cheap.
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[13:36] <gordonDrogon> sometimes I think that's as much a disadvantage as it's advantage.
[13:36] <gordonDrogon> there will always be niche applications where it's really not good though.
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[13:37] <gordonDrogon> the pitubedirect project was an interesting one - make a Pi emulate the old BBC Micro "Tube" interface. This is effectively a 2Mhz bus.
[13:37] <gordonDrogon> it works, but only just from what I've read, so trying to sample anything faster would fail.
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[13:41] <misslauracodes> I'm using the code here https://github.com/deanmao/avrdude-rpi to program an ATMEGA with a Raspberry Pi 3. It does it automatically every day, but three days ago it stopped programming the ATMEGA. I tried to do it manually, and it looks like the reset pin is not working (getting the " programmer is not responding" message). Any ideas of what can be causing this, or an avenue I can take to debug?
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[13:44] <bx9> https://www.raspberrypi.org/app/uploads/2012/02/BCM2835-ARM-Peripherals.pdf
[13:46] <bx9> Page 107: It states that clock source number "7 = HDMI auxiliary". So where does "HDMI auxiliary" come from?
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[13:48] <gordonDrogon> misslauracodes, why do you need to reprogram it automatically?
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[13:50] <misslauracodes> gordonDrogon: long story, but the Pi is in an inaccessible space and I want to update the ATMEGA code remotely.
[13:50] <ali1234> misslauracodes: why not just install optiboot on it and thereafter program over usb?
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[13:50] <ali1234> (or serial)
[13:50] <misslauracodes> I am using serial.
[13:50] <gordonDrogon> right, so every time you update the sketch I guess.
[13:50] <gordonDrogon> usb serial or Pi native serial?
[13:51] <misslauracodes> Native
[13:51] <bx9> misslauracodes: does reboot help?
[13:51] <misslauracodes> No that's the first thing I tried.
[13:51] <gordonDrogon> ok, so a 3.3v arduino.
[13:51] <ali1234> did something else take over the reset gpio?
[13:51] <misslauracodes> It's the same chip as Arduino, yes. atmega328p
[13:52] <gordonDrogon> sadly this is the sort of thing that makes me annoyed. a 20-line python program that really should be a 2-line shell script using a command-line program, however.
[13:52] <misslauracodes> gordonDrogon: I understand, but my knowledge is limited and I'm still learning, and this library just worked for me when I needed it.
[13:53] <gordonDrogon> it's possible something has 'taken over' pin 11 - unlikely though, but I think RPi.GPIO used by that python script is a little fussy.
[13:53] <ali1234> i dont really see how it could be any shorter if you used bash
[13:54] <gordonDrogon> you could try: gpio -g write 11 0 ; sleep 0.1 ; gpio -g write 11 1
[13:54] <gordonDrogon> that'll pulse the reset line.
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[13:54] <gordonDrogon> maybe needing a gpio -g mode 11 out first
[13:54] <gordonDrogon> the gpio command does not care if anything else is using a gpio pin.
[13:56] <misslauracodes> I'll see if I can do it manually. What's the best way to monitor incoming serial data (that's what the ATMEGA does)? I am familiar with minicom but wonder if there is something I can type to just watch the incoming data?
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[13:56] <gordonDrogon> I use minicom, but if the baud is setup, then cat < /dev/serial0
[13:56] <gordonDrogon> will work.
[13:57] <ali1234> if you specifically need to program off the gpio then maybe ICSP would be a better choice. you dont need wrapper scripts for that, avrdude just does it
[13:57] <ali1234> of course it might still fail if the gpios are in use
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[13:58] <gordonDrogon> depends on what version of avrdude.
[13:58] <ali1234> the version that comes with raspbian works fine
[13:58] * BurtyB just uses avrdude from the raspbian repo to program an atmega328p (icsp)
[13:59] <ali1234> i used it two days ago to program a m1284p
[13:59] <BurtyB> only needed to add a programmer entry and you're done :)
[13:59] <ali1234> using linuxspi you only need to set the gpio you want to use for reset
[14:00] <gordonDrogon> I gave-up with all that some time back. I use a usb programmer these days.
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[14:11] <amigojapan> It is pretty easy to use an Arduino to program other avr chips
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[14:27] <gordonDrogon> there's lots of things that are pretty easy, but sometimes you just want to plug something in and go ...
[14:30] <bx9> "The Max stable SPI clock rate that has been tested is 32-48Mhz." https://www.element14.com/community/thread/55832/l/logi-pi-2-would-this-dev-board-allow-an-external-clock-source-to-be-connected
[14:31] <gordonDrogon> bx9, what is it that your trying to do?
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[14:35] <bx9> That SPI thing was just a useful note I found.
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[14:36] <bx9> But what I want to do is to feed a stable clock at say 60 MHz to an A/D which feeds 8-bits + clock into the DMA on the Pi.
[14:38] <gordonDrogon> so, 750K samples/sec ?
[14:39] <bx9> No, 60 Msamples/s.
[14:39] <gordonDrogon> right.
[14:40] <gordonDrogon> it's highly probable that the Pi is not the right device for this.
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[14:41] <bx9> 15 Ms/s then?
[14:42] <gordonDrogon> 2, maybe.
[14:43] <bx9> I seem to have found code to read in 44 MB/s. So at least that should be doable.
[14:44] <bx9> The problem is that the SoC will only let one select between the various PLL:s, not a GPIO pin.
[14:44] <gordonDrogon> the spi can run that fast - but the Pi is SPI master.
[14:45] <bx9> 44 MByte/s via SPI which is serial?
[14:45] <gordonDrogon> sorry, bits/sec.
[14:45] <gordonDrogon> the Pi TV tuner uses SPI from what I gather.
[14:46] <gordonDrogon> and there are lcd displays that use SPI at 48Mbits/sec.
[14:46] <gordonDrogon> tht's only 6 MBytes/sec though - really not sure how you'll get up to 60
[14:47] <gordonDrogon> can your device talk USB?
[14:48] <bx9> I've seen some "Raspberry Pi" boards where the SoC is replaced by a FPGA. However cores that implement any MMU capable CPU are usually quite slow (~80 MHz).
[14:48] <gordonDrogon> although even then you might peak out at 35MB/sec.
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[14:48] <misslauracodes> In the /boot/config.txt I can see enable_uart=1 -- isn't this enough for the pi to not have any serial hardware capabilities? May be I have found the problem.
[14:49] <gordonDrogon> design a front-end for the Pi that has an FPGA that can buffer then provide the data to the Pi using e.g. a strobe+ack interface - 16 bits is possible too.
[14:51] <bx9> more chips.. stuff.
[14:51] <gordonDrogon> sure.
[14:51] <gordonDrogon> most cost too, but if it's time vs. money vs. getting the project done, then what do you choose ...
[14:51] <bx9> Seems so crappy that an otherwise quite capable chip lack a serious input port.
[14:51] <gordonDrogon> remember the Pi is using a 10 year old SoC designed as a set-top-box ...
[14:52] <gordonDrogon> it was designed to have input via SD card or streaming via network and hdmi decoding output.
[14:52] <bx9> Well ARM chips are quite configurable. Otherwise there wouldn't been any Pi.
[14:52] <gordonDrogon> the Pi is 90% GPU.
[14:53] <gordonDrogon> the ARM was more of an afterthought on the original SoC.
[14:53] <bx9> GPU with a CPU attachment? ;)
[14:53] <gordonDrogon> basically, yes.
[14:54] <gordonDrogon> the arm was there to make it easier to get data into the gpu which then decodes it and spews it out to a TV.
[14:55] <bx9> So many other ARM32 chips like STM32 etc have external DMA clock options. Ought to be a Pi one too.
[14:55] <gordonDrogon> the SoC (GPU + ARM) existed for a long time before the Pi Foundation decided to use it. What they've done now far exceeded the original use and ideas.
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[14:56] <gordonDrogon> Why?
[14:56] <gordonDrogon> Why would a set-top-box SoC need DMA input?
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[14:56] <bx9> Btw, any idea what this "HDMI auxiliary" is ?
[14:56] <gordonDrogon> no.
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[14:57] <bx9> Is the HDMI clock generated by the SoC or some external clock?
[14:57] <gordonDrogon> the schematic to the original Pi is available...
[14:58] <gordonDrogon> without looking at it, I'm unable to tell, however my guess is that, given it's designed to generate hdmi, then it's generated internally.
[14:59] <bx9> https://www.raspberrypi.org/documentation/hardware/raspberrypi/schematics/rpi_SCH_2b_1p2_reduced.pdf
[15:00] <gordonDrogon> the full schematic of the original Pi was published. You have have to dig deep to find it.
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[15:03] <gordonDrogon> not sure it will help you though.
[15:03] <bx9> https://www.raspberrypi.org/blog/model-b-revision-2-0-schematics/
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[15:04] <bx9> https://www.raspberrypi.org/wp-content/uploads/2012/10/Raspberry-Pi-R2.0-Schematics-Issue2.2_027.pdf
[15:04] <gordonDrogon> does it help?
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[15:05] <bx9> Which essentially shows that HDMI_CLP_P/N goes straight into the SoC ;)
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[15:05] <nemo> So... I have an extra pi I was thinking of using to replace my old server. It doesn't do much, just my tmux session, ssh, personal mail, bit of apache. The server itself is a decade old, single core 1ghz and has a gig of RAM so in theory the pi is a bit better on that front. The only trick is storage.
[15:06] <nemo> I'd read on forums people had some success with large microsd cards and the pi. I was wondering if there might be more info on that
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[15:06] <nemo> "known good cards" and such
[15:06] <nemo> microsdxc that is
[15:06] <gordonDrogon> nemo, why not a usb SSD?
[15:07] <gordonDrogon> nemo, the usual down-side is IO bandwidth though - Ethernet and storage share the one and only USB channel...
[15:07] <nemo> ow
[15:07] <gordonDrogon> SD is on a selarate channel, but ... SD ..
[15:07] <nemo> gordonDrogon: thing is with this machine I don't need to write stuff very often. maybe logs. and frankly those could just go to ram
[15:07] <nemo> so was thinking microsd might be just fine performance wise. just with a bit more space
[15:08] <gordonDrogon> buffer in RAM and write to SD -that ought to be fine.
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[15:08] <gordonDrogon> I'd buy the SD from a known good source then and make sure it has a good PSU.
[15:08] <BurtyB> and backup so you still have some data when the SD dies
[15:08] <nemo> BurtyB: ow. are they that unreliable?
[15:09] <nemo> I mean. sure, backup - but you make it sound higher risk than usual
[15:09] <bx9> And Pi uses HDMI v1.3 asfaik. Which is max 340 MHz. So my guess is that 216 MHz is generated for the default resolution pixel clock.
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[15:10] <nemo> BurtyB: there's some SDXC cards w/ crazy fast write speeds (supposedly) I just have no idea if the pi could handle it
[15:10] <gordonDrogon> you can 'overclock' the SD on the Pi - I've no idea how reliable it is though as I've never bothered.
[15:10] <bx9> nemo, Look at OrangePi and BananaPi. I think they separate Ethernet and USB.
[15:10] <nemo> that does sound risky
[15:11] <nemo> bx9: heh. well one advantage was I already had this one here
[15:11] <nemo> maybe I'll find something else to use it for
[15:11] <bx9> Attach a network NAS to the Pi?
[15:11] <nemo> I mean. besides its current "play with gpio" which seems to be giving its processor not nearly enough of a workout
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[15:11] <nemo> bx9: hmmmm
[15:12] <nemo> at that point I'v split one server into 2 ☺
[15:12] <nemo> doesn't help much on the power front
[15:12] <BurtyB> nemo, I'd call it a higher risk vs a HDD with smart so most of the time you can see before it fails
[15:13] <bx9> nemo: Use this project: https://github.com/fenlogic/IDE_trial
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[15:13] <nemo> bx9: wow
[15:13] <bx9> nemo: It lets you attach a HDD via the GPIO pins using DMA.
[15:13] <nemo> 44MB/s is not terrible
[15:14] <nemo> that's darn cool
[15:14] <nemo> bx9: and a fun use of the GPIO
[15:14] <nemo> wonder how reliable it is
[15:14] <bx9> Though check stability before commiting important data.. ;)
[15:14] <nemo> "As far as I could tell my command was OK, the interface signals where OK but the disk would just not respond. "
[15:14] <nemo> apparently not very 😃
[15:14] <nemo> hm. do I have spare discs to play with
[15:14] <bx9> He had trouble geting the DMA modes work.
[15:15] <bx9> On the disc that is.
[15:15] <bx9> So HDD-PIO to ARM32-DMA seems fine.
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[15:15] <bx9> Don't forget those P-ATA to S-ATA adapters.
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[15:17] <bx9> I wonder if he or anyone else built a Raspberry Pi kernel driver for P-ATA over GPIO with DMA. It would for sure enable some projects.
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[15:17] <misslauracodes> How can I detect if there is a program reading the serial connection?
[15:19] <bx9> lsof?
[15:20] <BurtyB> misslauracodes, "fuser /dev/tty..." should tell you if something is using it
[15:20] <bx9> perhaps "apt-get install lsof" first.
[15:21] <misslauracodes> lsof | grep /dev/ doesn't show any mention of /dev/serial0 so I don't think my theory was correct.
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[15:22] <BurtyB> misslauracodes, you'd probably see ttyAMA0 or ttyS0
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[15:22] <misslauracodes> Looking at fuser, I can see nothing on /dev/serial0 but curiously there is a /dev/serial1 (didn't notice that before) and that is being used by /usr/bin/hciattach -- can any body explain this one to me?
[15:22] <bx9> what does "ls -l /dev/serial0" say?
[15:23] <misslauracodes> bx9: lrwxrwxrwx 1 root root 5 Mar 8 13:53 /dev/serial0 -> ttyS0
[15:23] <bx9> So ttyS0 is the real serial device.
[15:24] <misslauracodes> Should I be using that instead?
[15:25] <bx9> no need.
[15:25] <Habbie> hciattach is for bluetooth
[15:25] <misslauracodes> Oh I see, so bluetooth is incidentally enabled and will use /dev/serial1 ?
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[15:26] <gordonDrogon> bx9, you posted that link from 'fenlogic' earlier ...
[15:27] <gordonDrogon> bx9, you know that 'fenlogic' is a chap called Gert ... and he worked for Broadcom and designed part of the SoC...
[15:27] <gordonDrogon> bx9, so ... given that he didn't get DMA going what are the chances...
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[15:32] <bx9> After reading the sources it seems he got the DMA part working on the Pi side of things.
[15:33] <bx9> What he failed to make work was getting a response from HDD multi-word HDD-DMA commands.
[15:34] <gordonDrogon> there's a project for you then.
[15:34] <bx9> No external clock thoe..
[15:35] <bx9> Maybe one should go hardcore directly. 4 GHz sample frontend + FPGA + Ethernet (to PC).
[15:36] <bx9> 4 GHz is the fastest frontend of the shelf.
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[15:37] <bx9> Sampling modules with 65 GHz clock are only 100 000 GBP. Everybody ought to have one ;)
[15:38] <bx9> If one have to use force. Well then one might as well go all the way.
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[15:43] <yutayu> ov
[15:43] <yutayu> type miss sorry
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[15:55] <bx9> https://github.com/hzeller/rpi-gpio-dma-demo
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[15:59] <bx9> Might actually be more efficient to just halt all activity and run a assembler loop.
[15:59] <bx9> x86 REPNZ MOV revival ;-)
[16:00] <bx9> Found this: https://www.eevblog.com/forum/microcontrollers/fastest-adc-for-raspberry-pi-23-or-orange-pc/
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[16:00] <bx9> Appearently BeagleBoard have PRUSS onboard periphials that will do the task.
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[16:22] <Praeceps> Hey, I'm currently trying to configure a Raspberry Pi Zero W as a HID Keyboard Gadget that will type a set of keystrokes when plugged into a computer. I've done the gadget part successfully, however I'm currently attempting to detect when the raspberry pi is connected and disconnected from a host device. Is there any way to get this information from the device, I've seen plenty of promising endpoints in /sys/kernel/udc such as state and
[16:22] <Praeceps> /sys/kernel/debug but none of them seem to be implemented in the way I would expect or to the kernel documents to give me that information. Does anyone have experience with detecting the electrical connection of a RPi's usb port running in slave mode?
[16:22] <Praeceps> I've currently been doing this by pressing the caps lock key and checking if I recieve and output report but MacOS doesn't send these reports which breaks my entire project atm.
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[17:44] <larsks> Praeceps: is anything logged to the system log when you connect/disconnect?
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[22:02] <Shigo> hello anyone knows if the pican 2 is electrically isolated? i can find a "pican duo" with two ports which is stated as isolated
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[22:05] <bx9> Schematics?
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